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G 0 D	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:09:00 - [1] Edited by: G 0 D on 04/03/2011 17:11:41 I have recently quit EVE because my friend with loads of cash IRL started playing and it became apparent to me this game is not competetive at all. The day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing. If everyone can Pay to win as much as they want, where is the competetive aspect to this game that every other p2p mmo has? At least in other games when you buy in game currency for real money you run the risk of getting your accounts banned. Not to mention anyone with IRL cash can buy all the high skilled characters then want through CCP's hands as well. SP for $$ ISK for $$ --------- Pay to win
Matalino	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:10:00 - [2] ISK != WIN
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:23:00 - [3] he'll loose that all pretty fast mind you .,.., it's not a win -- Join BIG
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:25:00 - [4] What did he win? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
LHA Tarawa	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:26:00 - [5] Originally by: G 0 DThe day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing.[/quote I hope this is an exaggeration. 5 PLEX is what? 1.75 billion. My year and a half old toon can make 30+ million ISK an hour running L4s. I've brought in 1.5 billion in one week of hard grinding. Even if you are only making 10 million ISK an hour, it would take 150 hours to make 1.5 billion. A year-and a half is like 75 weeks, so 2 hours a week of play.
Xelena Shellar	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:33:00 - [6] Originally by: G 0 D Edited by: G 0 D on 04/03/2011 17:11:41 I have recently quit EVE because my friend with loads of cash IRL started playing and it became apparent to me this game is not competetive at all. The day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing. If everyone can Pay to win as much as they want, where is the competetive aspect to this game that every other p2p mmo has? At least in other games when you buy in game currency for real money you run the risk of getting your accounts banned. Not to mention anyone with IRL cash can buy all the high skilled characters then want through CCP's hands as well. SP for $$ ISK for $$ --------- Pay to win If your whole reason to play the game was to compete with people in ISK and SP, I hate to break the news, but you were already WAAAY down the list before he started, trust me. 5 plexes is around 2bil, and a year and a half of play can't be more than 20mil SP. 20mil chars are 4-5bil if they are well trained, so quite frankly, all of your time in EVE equates to about 6-7bil in total. People have scammed for over 600 bil before(100 times your worth), and a titan is still in the 60bil range, or 10 times your worth. Basically, you're a small fry in the grand scheme of things.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Matalino ISK != WIN Furthermore, ISK + SP != WIN _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Mutant Miner Caldari Percussive Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:43:00 - [8] Edited by: Mutant Miner on 04/03/2011 17:43:13 Originally by: LHA Tarawa Originally by: G 0 D The day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing. I hope this is an exaggeration. 5 PLEX is what? 1.75 billion. My year and a half old toon can make 30+ million ISK an hour running L4s. I've brought in 1.5 billion in one week of hard grinding. Even if you are only making 10 million ISK an hour, it would take 150 hours to make 1.5 billion. A year-and a half is like 75 weeks, so 2 hours a week of play. High sec level 4 grinders only make 1.5 bil in a week of hard grinding? lolwut, I can make that in a day of half assing it in low sec. Oh and its clear the OP is trolling, why humor him?
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Xelena Shellar Originally by: G 0 D Edited by: G 0 D on 04/03/2011 17:11:41 I have recently quit EVE because my friend with loads of cash IRL started playing and it became apparent to me this game is not competetive at all. The day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing. If everyone can Pay to win as much as they want, where is the competetive aspect to this game that every other p2p mmo has? At least in other games when you buy in game currency for real money you run the risk of getting your accounts banned. Not to mention anyone with IRL cash can buy all the high skilled characters then want through CCP's hands as well. SP for $$ ISK for $$ --------- Pay to win Basically, you're a small fry in the grand scheme of things. I have no problem being a "small fry." What I do have a problem with is that everyone with RL money to spare can be a BIG FRY. Personally I play mmo's for the competetive aspect. I don't care if I blow up someones ship and they can spend 30$ and buy 100 more.
Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:46:00 - [10] Originally by: G 0 D Edited by: G 0 D on 04/03/2011 17:11:41 I have recently quit EVE because my friend with loads of cash IRL started playing and it became apparent to me this game is not competetive at all. The day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing. If everyone can Pay to win as much as they want, where is the competetive aspect to this game that every other p2p mmo has? At least in other games when you buy in game currency for real money you run the risk of getting your accounts banned. Not to mention anyone with IRL cash can buy all the high skilled characters then want through CCP's hands as well. SP for $$ ISK for $$ --------- Pay to win so, a few weeks ago you were emochildragequitting over Incana, now you're emochildragequitting over your pal having more cash than you? Can you PLEASE stop telling us how you're going to quit and just quit? Frigging kids. .

Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:50:00 - [11] Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 04/03/2011 17:49:53 Originally by: G 0 D I have no problem being a "small fry." What I do have a problem with is that everyone with RL money to spare can be a BIG FRY. Personally I play mmo's for the competetive aspect. I don't care if I blow up someones ship and they can spend 30$ and buy 100 more. so, maybe it's because i'm not 15 and i have a job that gives me a nice amount of disposable income, but if I were you I'd probably more concerned that my pal had more cash than me IRL than ingame and I might try and change that fact, rather than posting about it on a game forum. .
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:50:00 - [12] Edited by: Tippia on 04/03/2011 17:51:16 Originally by: G 0 D What I do have a problem with is that everyone with RL money to spare can be a BIG FRY. Not really, no. More to the point, though: what was it your friend "won"? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:50:00 - [13] Pesky LaRue Have fun playing the only p2p mmo with a cash shop. And yeah, im just as dissapointed with the expansions ive witnessed in my time playing eve. Eve gate, PI, and this WIS crap have had nothing to do with why I picked up eve in the first place a year and a half ago. I came for full loot pvp, left because of bad game direction and the cash shop.
Pasmerktas	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:52:00 - [14] not at all, real win is experience, skills and time.
Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:52:00 - [15] Originally by: G 0 D blah blah blah, nothing interesting, clever or new, just more childish drivel. you've said you'll quit multiple times - stop crying for attention like a baby who dropped her icecream in dog poop and just quit. Genuinely - NO ONE CARES. .
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.03.04 17:52:00 - [16] Originally by: G 0 D Eve gate, PI, and this WIS crap have had nothing to do with why I picked up eve in the first place a year and a half ago. So don't use them. Now you won! ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Zhim'Fufu	Posted - 2011.03.04 18:00:00 - [17] Well I like the cash shop myself. We get all sorts of irl rich players doing this and undocking in a nice faction boat or t3 filled with faction shineys who then goes on to promptly lose it to our artypocs on the undock. Hell some even do it multiple times so whats not to love about it as it certainly plays into the full loot pvp part of the game quite well for me and others. Originally by: Response to bitter carebear tears in local [19:44:46] CCP Incognito > sorry i can't talk about game mechanics. you need to use your brains and figure it out.
Xylengra	Posted - 2011.03.04 18:22:00 - [18] Originally by: G 0 D I have recently quit EVE because blah blah blah blah Why does every ****head who realizes he isn't cut out for this game feel the need to come and tell us that they are quitters? I mean, ffs, have some dignity. No one will miss you. No one cares a bit about you leaving. Just go, and spare us your whining. Just go. P.S. I wouldn't take your crappy stuffs even if my life depended on it.
Xelena Shellar	Posted - 2011.03.04 18:43:00 - [19] Edited by: Xelena Shellar on 04/03/2011 18:44:56 Originally by: G 0 D Have fun playing the only p2p mmo with a cash shop. Lol, what are you talking about? Between IGE, playerauctions, and the tons of other sites EVERY MMO has a cash shop. EVE just happens to have one that is sanctioned by the game producers, which is great, it helps keep people like me honest; I say this because I've bought cash in about every other MMO I've played, but never needed to in EVE to speak of, but when I did I took advantage of the PLEX option, and quick and easy as well. Quite frankly with an hour of IRL work being worth ~800mil, it's a given that some people(me) will be buying ISK when they need a quick bit of cash. Fortunately PLEXes are there as an easy way to do it, without incurring the wrath of CCP. (Forgot obligatory trolling) EDIT: Just because you can't afford PLEXes on a burger-flippers salary doesn't mean PLEX sales are bad. Go away G0D, no one wants you here!
Medarr Amarr ZeroSec Excuses.	Posted - 2011.03.04 18:45:00 - [20] Originally by: G 0 D I have recently quit EVE So the rest of your post is irrelevant... Bye!!

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.03.04 18:49:00 - [21] Originally by: G 0 D What I do have a problem with is that everyone with RL money to spare can be a BIG FRY. Hmm. It would take over 20k USD to get to roughly where I am right now gameplay-wise. And I still don't consider myself a "big fry". Anybody willing to spend enough to buy a pretty nice car just to match my ingame performance so far is WELCOME TO DO IT. Please, do spend so much money on EVE. I'd like to see your faction-fit supercarrier flown by your purchased uberpilot with a head full of expensive as hell implants pop to a miniblob and your capsule squished subsequently, so that I can laugh so hard my tears would start bursting out. _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts _
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2011.03.04 20:49:00 - [22] Originally by: G 0 D I came for full loot pvp, left because of bad game direction and the cash shop. I swear I just read this line a few weeks ago oh right http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1471669 now kindly shut the **** up
Arnakoz	Posted - 2011.03.04 22:01:00 - [23] good riddance. i would imagine that at some point you would have gotten upset that someone had more time than you and thus made it further faster. or was simply smarter and had a naturally occuring unfair advantage. so, not much we can say to help ya mate. good luck otherwise!
Jireel	Posted - 2011.03.04 22:01:00 - [24] Edited by: Jireel on 04/03/2011 22:05:24 Originally by: G 0 D Edited by: G 0 D on 04/03/2011 17:11:41 I have recently quit EVE because my friend with loads of cash IRL started playing and it became apparent to me this game is not competetive at all. The day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing. If everyone can Pay to win as much as they want, where is the competetive aspect to this game that every other p2p mmo has? At least in other games when you buy in game currency for real money you run the risk of getting your accounts banned. Not to mention anyone with IRL cash can buy all the high skilled characters then want through CCP's hands as well. SP for $$ ISK for $$ --------- Pay to win Hi. I make a billion a week in this 6 months old char, playing 2 hours a day. I've never bought any PLEX and never was funded by any player to do this. You should stop playing EVE and start a game matching your creative and intellectual capabilities. Truely yours, Jireel PS: I'm really happy about that PLEX system, giving good players the "play to play" option while other people give CCP money for them.
Smiffa Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.04 23:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Matalino ISK != WIN Furthermore, ISK + SP != WIN Can't back this up enough. Been playing since November 2003, and still learning stuff every day. Stuff most folks take for granted, and never had a wallet balance over 350 mil. And that was just yesteday... Be here for the Internet Spaceships and 'splosions, me.
Peter XZ Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.04 23:34:00 - [26] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: G 0 D I came for full loot pvp, left because of bad game direction and the cash shop. I swear I just read this line a few weeks ago oh right http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1471669 now kindly shut the ** up Yeah, if you don't like the game, why do you keep posting in the forums? Theres not a single mmo out there where RL money doesn't give advantages, NOT ONE that I've ever come across, and if there is any, I'd like to know how the devs get paid Time Passes, Eternity Awaits, Jesus Saves, and no you can't take Eve with you.*Hi to all my Eve Youtube friends, you kno who you are \o/* traditional500 channel
Malcanis Caldari Alcohlics Anonymous	Posted - 2011.03.04 23:35:00 - [27] Originally by: G 0 D Edited by: G 0 D on 04/03/2011 17:11:41 I have recently quit EVE because my friend with loads of cash IRL started playing and it became apparent to me this game is not competetive at all. The day he first logged in he bought 5 plex's and had more isk than I had made in my year and a half grinding missions and playing. If everyone can Pay to win as much as they want, where is the competetive aspect to this game that every other p2p mmo has? At least in other games when you buy in game currency for real money you run the risk of getting your accounts banned. Not to mention anyone with IRL cash can buy all the high skilled characters then want through CCP's hands as well. SP for $$ ISK for $$ --------- Pay to win Obvious RMT/bot propaganda is obvious. Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.03.05 00:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Peter XZ Theres not a single mmo out there where RL money doesn't give advantages, NOT ONE that I've ever come across, and if there is any, I'd like to know how the devs get paid I don't think it mattered much in Planetsideà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Grey Stormshadow	Posted - 2011.03.05 00:17:00 - [29] If some1 is willing and able to fund his fleet strictly by buying plexes with $$, I don't mind... With that much money going to EVE development we surely get bang for our couple ship losses we maybe had because of this :) And also that guy just made the game time cost less isk to everyone else who fund their fun with plexes... so win win situation...
Karbowiak	Posted - 2011.03.05 00:28:00 - [30] Can you win EVE by having isk?.. Whats the winning limit then?.. I got 92b isk, plus whatever EVSCO earns me - have i won? Co-Owner and Creator of EVSCO



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