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Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:35:00 - [181] Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Lady Skank Have you actually been to Japan and measured the amount of radiation yourself? please post the results and make some vids and take some pics because I'm sure many here would like to see them. The British embassy has begun giving anti radiating meds to nationals and expats that live in Tokyo so radiation there must be higher than the official "barely above background levels" the Japanese authorities claim. Hi, would you like your tinfoil hat now or later? Also, inferring what radiation levels are from what folks are doing as preventative measures isn't that intelligent. There are morons in California stocking up on Iodine right now, does that mean that the radiation levels in California are enough to be worried about? not even ing close Put your head in the sand all you want but I will post a small quote from a independent review about radioactive discharges after the Sizewell B incident, "there is no threshold of exposure below which risk become zero" Check the PDF of the report out
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:39:00 - [182] Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 13:40:34 Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 13:39:08 Originally by: Lady Skank Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Lady Skank Have you actually been to Japan and measured the amount of radiation yourself? please post the results and make some vids and take some pics because I'm sure many here would like to see them. The British embassy has begun giving anti radiating meds to nationals and expats that live in Tokyo so radiation there must be higher than the official "barely above background levels" the Japanese authorities claim. Hi, would you like your tinfoil hat now or later? Also, inferring what radiation levels are from what folks are doing as preventative measures isn't that intelligent. There are morons in California stocking up on Iodine right now, does that mean that the radiation levels in California are enough to be worried about? not even ing close Put your head in the sand all you want but I will post a small quote from a independent review about radioactive discharges after the Sizewell B incident, "there is no threshold of exposure below which risk become zero" Check the PDF of the report out Then by your logic you should stop entering concrete buildings, never fly in a plane, never go out when it rains, stop eating bananas, and never get an x-ray again. Oh, and I forgot to mention that there are studies and folks who believe that small doses of radiation are actually good for your health. Should we consider their views also?
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:42:00 - [183] Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 13:42:04 Originally by: Lady Skank Originally by: Selinate Look up decay heat for yourself for once and figure it out. Yes and its quite obvious they are dumping water onto and exposed core, so until they cool it and bury it in concrete or something similar its spewing out huge amounts of radiation, the exclusion zone was extended today to 20km so its slowly creeping up to Chernobyl's 30km your fear-mongering would make a nuclear physicist bang their head against a wall.
Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:44:00 - [184] Edited by: Lady Skank on 20/03/2011 13:46:31 Originally by: Selinate Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 13:39:08 Originally by: Lady Skank Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Lady Skank Have you actually been to Japan and measured the amount of radiation yourself? please post the results and make some vids and take some pics because I'm sure many here would like to see them. The British embassy has begun giving anti radiating meds to nationals and expats that live in Tokyo so radiation there must be higher than the official "barely above background levels" the Japanese authorities claim. Hi, would you like your tinfoil hat now or later? Also, inferring what radiation levels are from what folks are doing as preventative measures isn't that intelligent. There are morons in California stocking up on Iodine right now, does that mean that the radiation levels in California are enough to be worried about? not even ing close Put your head in the sand all you want but I will post a small quote from a independent review about radioactive discharges after the Sizewell B incident, "there is no threshold of exposure below which risk become zero" Check the PDF of the report out Then by your logic you should stop entering concrete buildings, never fly in a plane, never go out when it rains, stop eating bananas, and never get an x-ray again. My logic? the quote relates to radioactive discharges from a nuclear plant not every day background levels, the report states that ANY level of discharge from a nuclear plant carries a risk. It was a counterpoint to your claim that discharges from nuclear plants where safe. Stop straw manning by deliberately taking things out of context.
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:47:00 - [185] Originally by: Lady Skank My logic? the quote relates to radioactive discharges from a nuclear plant not every day background levels, the report states that [i]ANY[/b] level of discharge from a nuclear plant carries a risk. It was a counterpoint to your claim that discharges from nuclear plants where safe. Stop straw manning by deliberately taking things out of context. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that the radiation that comes from nuclear reactors is special radiation. How foolish of me. (Hint, it's not special)
Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:51:00 - [186] Edited by: Lady Skank on 20/03/2011 13:50:50 Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Lady Skank My logic? the quote relates to radioactive discharges from a nuclear plant not every day background levels, the report states that [i]ANY[/b] level of discharge from a nuclear plant carries a risk. It was a counterpoint to your claim that discharges from nuclear plants where safe. Stop straw manning by deliberately taking things out of context. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that the radiation that comes from nuclear reactors is special radiation. How foolish of me. (Hint, it's not special) I wont reply to your posts anymore because you are simply a R374RD.
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 13:54:00 - [187] Originally by: Lady Skank Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Lady Skank My logic? the quote relates to radioactive discharges from a nuclear plant not every day background levels, the report states that [i]ANY[/b] level of discharge from a nuclear plant carries a risk. It was a counterpoint to your claim that discharges from nuclear plants where safe. Stop straw manning by deliberately taking things out of context. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that the radiation that comes from nuclear reactors is special radiation. How foolish of me. (Hint, it's not special) I wont reply to your posts anymore because you are simply an R374RD. NO YOU! But seriously, you've shown your ignorance of nuclear reactors through your post. You think I'm straw-manning? I'm not. The fact that you don't realize this only proves that you are absolutely ignorant on the topic (as most people are). Nuclear reactors aren't cars. They're not air planes. You can't do 30 minutes worth of research and get even a very rough idea of how they work. You and the others who have posted things in this thread that would make the actual experts cry tears of blood prove that. The sad thing is that you can't argue with the ignorant, especially when they're convinced they're right. So go ahead, and stop replying to my posts. If anyone wants to do detailed research, however, they'll find out that I'm right.
digitalwanderer Gallente DF0 incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.20 16:56:00 - [188] Originally by: Selinate Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 14:31:25 Originally by: Lady Skank Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Lady Skank My logic? the quote relates to radioactive discharges from a nuclear plant not every day background levels, the report states that [i]ANY[/b] level of discharge from a nuclear plant carries a risk. It was a counterpoint to your claim that discharges from nuclear plants where safe. Stop straw manning by deliberately taking things out of context. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that the radiation that comes from nuclear reactors is special radiation. How foolish of me. (Hint, it's not special) I wont reply to your posts anymore because you are simply an R374RD. NO YOU! But seriously, you've shown your ignorance of nuclear reactors through your post. You think I'm straw-manning? I'm not. The fact that you don't realize this only proves that you are absolutely ignorant on the topic (as most people are). Nuclear reactors aren't cars. They're not air planes. You can't do 30 minutes worth of research and get even a very rough idea of how they work. You and the others who have posted things in this thread that would make the actual experts cry tears of blood prove that. The sad thing is that you can't argue with the ignorant, especially when they're convinced they're right. So go ahead, and stop replying to my posts. If anyone wants to do detailed research, however, they'll find out that I'm right. EDIT: It also seems that you're the one stupidly taking things out of context. That paper refers to any dosage carrying risk in reference to the assumption they're making to do their analysis. Truth: there's no proof of a linear relationship with respect to health risks at all radiation levels like they are claiming. It's just one of the nuclear safety groups (I forget which, probably the NRC) that makes this assumption when making risk assessments, since it's a fairly conservative estimation. Then why are workers at the plant being constantly rotated to avoid overexposure? Then why was the helicopter dumping sea water idea seriously discussed,since there were fears of over exposing the crews to radiation?. Then why did the japanese goverment increase the exposure limits for the workers at the plant from 100 milisieverts to 250 millisieverts? Then why are the fire trucks being remotely operated and trying to use their water cannons from as far away as possible? Then why are drones being used to fly over the plant to take radiation mesurements...Since the risk is so low,why not use regular planes? Then why are products grown anywhere near the plant now banned from sale,including milk wich was shown to have higher levels than normal? This reminds me of that old proverb wich some here might know it....If it smells like 3 day old fish and it looks like 3 day old fish,it very likely is 3 day old fish.... I think we're well beyond the point of not being sure if the plant is leaking radiation or not since it obviously is, and we also know that it's heavily damaged from the earthquake and tsunami and subsequent hydrogen explosions,and i have yet to hear anything if the cooling equipement at the plant is still in working order, now that that extra power line has been added, or if firetrucks and helicopters dumping water are still required. The real unknown is how badly damaged the reactors are, since no one got close enough to even be able to see it for themselves(radiation levels are too high), and it's all based on sensor readings and estimations...
Selinate Amarr Red Water Syndicate	Posted - 2011.03.20 17:02:00 - [189] Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 17:03:37 Originally by: digitalwanderer Then why are workers at the plant being constantly rotated to avoid overexposure? Then why was the helicopter dumping sea water idea seriously discussed,since there were fears of over exposing the crews to radiation?. Then why did the japanese goverment increase the exposure limits for the workers at the plant from 100 milisieverts to 250 millisieverts? Then why are the fire trucks being remotely operated and trying to use their water cannons from as far away as possible? Then why are drones being used to fly over the plant to take radiation mesurements...Since the risk is so low,why not use regular planes? Then why are products grown anywhere near the plant now banned from sale,including milk wich was shown to have higher levels than normal? This reminds me of that old proverb wich some here might know it....If it smells like 3 day old fish and it looks like 3 day old fish,it very likely is 3 day old fish.... I think we're well beyond the point of not being sure if the plant is leaking radiation or not since it obviously is, and we also know that it's heavily damaged from the earthquake and tsunami and subsequent hydrogen explosions,and i have yet to hear anything if the cooling equipement at the plant is still in working order, now that that extra power line has been added, or if firetrucks and helicopters dumping water are still required. The real unknown is how badly damaged the reactors are, since no one got close enough to even be able to see it for themselves(radiation levels are too high), and it's all based on sensor readings and estimations... I'm not a broken record, you can read previous posts as to why they're taking all precautions possible. Also, try not to speculate on things you don't understand either (or spread false information. Not all of those questions you asked for "Why this" and such contain accurate info).
digitalwanderer Gallente DF0 incorporated	Posted - 2011.03.20 17:17:00 - [190] Edited by: digitalwanderer on 20/03/2011 17:26:50 Originally by: Selinate Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 17:03:37 Originally by: digitalwanderer Then why are workers at the plant being constantly rotated to avoid overexposure? Then why was the helicopter dumping sea water idea seriously discussed,since there were fears of over exposing the crews to radiation?. Then why did the japanese goverment increase the exposure limits for the workers at the plant from 100 milisieverts to 250 millisieverts? Then why are the fire trucks being remotely operated and trying to use their water cannons from as far away as possible? Then why are drones being used to fly over the plant to take radiation mesurements...Since the risk is so low,why not use regular planes? Then why are products grown anywhere near the plant now banned from sale,including milk wich was shown to have higher levels than normal? This reminds me of that old proverb wich some here might know it....If it smells like 3 day old fish and it looks like 3 day old fish,it very likely is 3 day old fish.... I think we're well beyond the point of not being sure if the plant is leaking radiation or not since it obviously is, and we also know that it's heavily damaged from the earthquake and tsunami and subsequent hydrogen explosions,and i have yet to hear anything if the cooling equipement at the plant is still in working order, now that that extra power line has been added, or if firetrucks and helicopters dumping water are still required. The real unknown is how badly damaged the reactors are, since no one got close enough to even be able to see it for themselves(radiation levels are too high), and it's all based on sensor readings and estimations... I'm not a broken record, you can read previous posts as to why they're taking all precautions possible. Also, try not to speculate on things you don't understand either (or spread false information. Not all of those questions you asked for "Why this" and such contain accurate info). There's no speculation involved at all...All the above actions were taken officially, and obviously wouldn't need to be if the situation didn't warrant it in the first place now would it?...Nothing is done for ****s and giggles, or simply as a precaution without having indicators that it would be recommended to take such actions. And you're right about accurate info, since tepco hasn't exactly been generous(dare i say even accurate?),in terms of divulging information on what exactly works at the plant or what doesn't work and now bad the damage is overall, leaving many specialists on the matter to guess at what the hell is going on there?.
Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.03.20 17:33:00 - [191] Originally by: Selinate Edited by: Selinate on 20/03/2011 14:31:25 Originally by: Lady Skank Originally by: Selinate Originally by: Lady Skank My logic? the quote relates to radioactive discharges from a nuclear plant not every day background levels, the report states that [i]ANY[/b] level of discharge from a nuclear plant carries a risk. It was a counterpoint to your claim that discharges from nuclear plants where safe. Stop straw manning by deliberately taking things out of context. Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that the radiation that comes from nuclear reactors is special radiation. How foolish of me. (Hint, it's not special) I wont reply to your posts anymore because you are simply an R374RD. NO YOU! But seriously, you've shown your ignorance of nuclear reactors through your post. You think I'm straw-manning? I'm not. The fact that you don't realize this only proves that you are absolutely ignorant on the topic (as most people are). Nuclear reactors aren't cars. They're not air planes. You can't do 30 minutes worth of research and get even a very rough idea of how they work. You and the others who have posted things in this thread that would make the actual experts cry tears of blood prove that. The sad thing is that you can't argue with the ignorant, especially when they're convinced they're right. So go ahead, and stop replying to my posts. If anyone wants to do detailed research, however, they'll find out that I'm right. EDIT: It also seems that you're the one stupidly taking things out of context. That paper refers to any dosage carrying risk in reference to the assumption they're making to do their analysis. Truth: there's no proof of a linear relationship with respect to health risks at all radiation levels like they are claiming. It's just one of the nuclear safety groups (I forget which, probably the NRC) that makes this assumption when making risk assessments, since it's a fairly conservative estimation. You are straw manning the argument because you:- Responded to "A foreign government agency handing out anti radiation meds in Tokyo" with "dumb people in california are buying them" where was the logcal rebbutle explaining why the British government is acting prematurly. Here is some more straw manning:- You responded to me quouting an offical report (with source) that states any discharge from a nuclear power plant comes with zero risks with some prattle about my logic means that we should hide from daily life. This then got better and you rambeled on with:- I tried to explain how the report had nothing to do with background levels of radiation and was focused purely with the high levels of contaminated radioactive particles associated with discharges from power plants (an exposed reactor core which is completely out of control certainly stretches the bounds of discharge) with the radiation from power plant isn't "special radiation" (whatever the hell that means) You are the only Special thing here. I could go back and quote the pages of your straw manning and other gibberish about how one of the largest nuclear accidents in the world ever with the second largest exclusion zone is not a bad thing but I wont bother because you simply don't get it, you think you understand this on some deeper level but you are just a R374RD3D guy spewing nonsense onto the Internet. I tried to explain it and even included sources but you would rather respond with straw manning and gibberish. If its so safe why don't you fly over and go and spend a few days in the exclusion zone, chill out and drink some wine and local food and spend some time with the few terrified locals that are left?
Hoya en Marland	Posted - 2011.03.20 17:35:00 - [192] Originally by: Selinate I'm not a broken record, you can read previous posts as to why they're taking all precautions possible. Also, try not to speculate on things you don't understand either (or spread false information. Not all of those questions you asked for "Why this" and such contain accurate info). Seriously, what are you pretending to be - some kind of expert? Professional nuclear lobbyist? Because surely you sound like just another ignorant **** who spent some time on wiki and now trying to sound smart. Even if you were an expert, which is highly unlikely, knowing your "meh, it's nothing!" attitude from day 1 all I can say is that I hope they won't let you nowhere near some reactor. As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't trust you even a driving licence.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:36:00 - [193] tbh both sides of the argument are being totally bonkers on this --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.03.20 19:40:00 - [194] Originally by: Grimpak tbh both sides of the argument are being totally bonkers on this Never realised we had so many experts
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.20 20:07:00 - [195] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Grimpak tbh both sides of the argument are being totally bonkers on this Never realised we had so many experts I admit my knowlege is below "basic" on this, but both sides seem to be overreacting on the issue. This is no new Chernobyl, by a long strech, but this isn't really just "a simple accident in a nuclear instalation" either. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Alotta Baggage Amarr Imperial Manufactorum Armada Assail	Posted - 2011.03.20 22:28:00 - [196] I'ma go to Japan to find artifacts in the exclusion zone Originally by: Valkoinen Heteromies I for one would love to be able to walk on stations and fly spaceships in the body of a little cute catgirl!
Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.03.21 01:36:00 - [197] Originally by: baltec1 Originally by: Grimpak tbh both sides of the argument are being totally bonkers on this Never realised we had so many experts Doesnt need an expert to realise something is going very wrong at that plant when an exposed reactor core is spewing enough radiation to make it unsafe to overfly let alone hang around near it and when authorities are both down playing yet simultaneously increasing the exclusion zone steadily while foreign governments are telling everybody to leave Japan now and some handing out anti radiation meds to people waiting for flights or cant/wont leave. I am with Grimpak when he says its not another Chernobyl but not a simple nuclear accident, I am just arguing with simpletons like selinate who are convinced its all perfectly safe. I am pro nuclear power btw and I don't believe incompetence in the industry is helping and covering up when bad things do happen exacerbates it.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.21 10:02:00 - [198] saw this. was released yesterday, and it seems that atm the only issue about radioactivity is Iodine-131 in the area. Caesium-134 and 137 seem to be in the air, together with Iodine-132 and 133 but their ammounts are much less than 131. Caesium is the worse isotopes in terms of half-life since the 137 has a 30 year half-life (134 has 2 years) iodine-131, while dangerous has a half-life of some 7 days, while the other two have short half lifes (2 hours and 20 hours respectively to 132 and 133). TL;DR from empyrical data from several sources, atm the only radioactive product that has been released in large ammounts seems to be iodine-131. If the Fukushima accident progresses favourably and manages to release only iodine in amounts above the safety limits, it will take some 2-3 months for the ammount of radioactive material to decay in the area. but this is a big "if". if Fukushima starts to spew Cs-134 and 137 in large amounts, then we will have another Zone in the world that will remain contaminated for quite some time (decades or even centuries). --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Thuranni Eldjotnar	Posted - 2011.03.21 17:35:00 - [199] Edited by: Thuranni on 21/03/2011 17:35:47 Originally by: digitalwanderer Then why are workers at the plant being constantly rotated to avoid overexposure? Then why was the helicopter dumping sea water idea seriously discussed,since there were fears of over exposing the crews to radiation?. Then why did the japanese goverment increase the exposure limits for the workers at the plant from 100 milisieverts to 250 millisieverts? Then why are the fire trucks being remotely operated and trying to use their water cannons from as far away as possible? Then why are drones being used to fly over the plant to take radiation mesurements...Since the risk is so low,why not use regular planes? Then why are products grown anywhere near the plant now banned from sale,including milk wich was shown to have higher levels than normal? This reminds me of that old proverb wich some here might know it....If it smells like 3 day old fish and it looks like 3 day old fish,it very likely is 3 day old fish.... I think we're well beyond the point of not being sure if the plant is leaking radiation or not since it obviously is, and we also know that it's heavily damaged from the earthquake and tsunami and subsequent hydrogen explosions,and i have yet to hear anything if the cooling equipement at the plant is still in working order, now that that extra power line has been added, or if firetrucks and helicopters dumping water are still required. The real unknown is how badly damaged the reactors are, since no one got close enough to even be able to see it for themselves(radiation levels are too high), and it's all based on sensor readings and estimations... Why do you use a seatbelt every time you get in your car? The chances of you having a car crash serious enough that a seatbelt would make a difference are minuscule. The plant is leaking radioactive material (you can't "leak" radiation). There is no arguing this. However, the fact is that the amount of radiation is low and not nearly enough to be harmful to human health.
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.03.21 17:46:00 - [200] Originally by: Alotta Baggage I'ma go to Japan to find artifacts in the exclusion zone From the looks of your portrait, I'd say you've already been there... - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.21 18:34:00 - [201] Edited by: Grimpak on 21/03/2011 18:34:47 hmm latest update reports that the reactor 5 and 6 SFP cooling capability has been restored. Reactors 1, 2 and 3 seem to have their condition stabilized for the time being, altho there has been a decrease on pressure on the containment vessel of reactor 3. Water spraying on the SFP of reactor 3 seems to have decreased the temperature there too, altho minimally. atm the reactor 3 and 4's SFP's, together with reactor 1, 2 and 3 themselves are the areas that require the most attention, but works to restore AC power on the reactors seems to be going well. They managed to restore power on the reactor 5 already. not out of the woods yet, but the worst is probably long gone. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.22 15:42:00 - [202] ...and they have apparently restored power to the cooling systems. they seem to have start to run integrity checks on the instalation, so things seem to be improving now. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
NightmareX Infinitus Odium Scum Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.22 17:27:00 - [203] Edited by: NightmareX on 22/03/2011 17:27:51 Well, this is something that made me laught a little inside my self when it's about radiation in Japan or in Tokyo. LINK. Remember, this is translated from Norwegian to English, so the translation might not be that good.
Riedle Minmatar Paradox Collective Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.03.22 19:02:00 - [204] Edited by: Riedle on 22/03/2011 19:03:05 Tokyo is an area of the earth that has 1/3 of the normal background radiation. Some areas of the Earth have more and some have less. Tokyo and area end up being at about 1/3 of the average. The trace amount that they are getting now still makes Tokyo about 1/3 of the average. :) The radiation concerns were WAY overblown on this one. Luckily the majority of the radiation released thus far has been Iodine which has a half life of... 7 DAYS. Hopefully they continue to get a handle on the sitatuation and the media stops trying to scare people that don't understand radiation into thinking it's some sort of China syndrome. I understand why radiation sparks fears because, I suspect, it's odourless, invisible etc etc. But really, radiation is naturally occuring everywhere in the universe. The question is the amount and the kind of radiation and thus far, this situation is a tempest in a teapot in my opinion.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.22 20:14:00 - [205] Originally by: Riedle Edited by: Riedle on 22/03/2011 19:03:05 Tokyo is an area of the earth that has 1/3 of the normal background radiation. Some areas of the Earth have more and some have less. Tokyo and area end up being at about 1/3 of the average. The trace amount that they are getting now still makes Tokyo about 1/3 of the average. :) The radiation concerns were WAY overblown on this one. Luckily the majority of the radiation released thus far has been Iodine which has a half life of... 7 DAYS. Hopefully they continue to get a handle on the sitatuation and the media stops trying to scare people that don't understand radiation into thinking it's some sort of China syndrome. I understand why radiation sparks fears because, I suspect, it's odourless, invisible etc etc. But really, radiation is naturally occuring everywhere in the universe. The question is the amount and the kind of radiation and thus far, this situation is a tempest in a teapot in my opinion. think I don't need to say much more --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Riedle Minmatar Paradox Collective Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.03.22 23:01:00 - [206] Cool chart Grimpack - thanks for posting that
Hoya en Marland	Posted - 2011.03.23 23:43:00 - [207] Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 23/03/2011 23:47:02 "Experts" are omgwtf surprised... again. And that plant is still releasing radioactive materials into the environment... -------------------------------- Japanese authorities have detected a concentration of a radioactive substance 1,600 times higher than normal in soil at a village, 40 kilometers away from the troubled nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture. The disaster task force in Fukushima composed of the central and local governments surveyed radioactive substances in soil about 5 centimeters below the surface at 6 locations around the plant from last Friday through Tuesday. The results announced on Wednesday show that 163,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium-137 per kilogram of soil has been detected in Iitate Village, about 40 kilometers northwest of the plant. Gakushuin University Professor Yasuyuki Muramatsu, an expert on radiation in the environment, says that normal levels of radioactive cesium-137 in soil are around 100 becquerels at most. The professor says he was surprised at the extremely high reading, which is 1,630 times higher than normal levels. He warns that since radioactive cesium remains in the environment for about 30 years it could affect agricultural products for a long time.
Grimpak Gallente The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point	Posted - 2011.03.24 00:06:00 - [208] you know, that seems quite a big number, but you could post a comparision so that one could say how much that really is --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Hoya en Marland	Posted - 2011.03.24 10:28:00 - [209] Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 24/03/2011 10:36:23 Originally by: Grimpak you know, that seems quite a big number, but you could post a comparision so that one could say how much that really is Well, it's been said that up to 100 becquerels of cesium-137 is normal. They've measured 163,000 becquerels, 40 kilometers away from the power plant. This is getting worse than Chernobyl.
Lady Skank Ban Evasion inc	Posted - 2011.03.24 11:28:00 - [210] Originally by: Hoya en Marland Edited by: Hoya en Marland on 23/03/2011 23:51:59 "Experts" are omgwtf surprised again. And that power plant is still releasing radioactive materials into the environment... -------------------------------- Japanese authorities have detected a concentration of a radioactive substance 1,600 times higher than normal in soil at a village, 40 kilometers away from the troubled nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture. The disaster task force in Fukushima composed of the central and local governments surveyed radioactive substances in soil about 5 centimeters below the surface at 6 locations around the plant from last Friday through Tuesday. The results announced on Wednesday show that 163,000 becquerels of radioactive cesium-137 per kilogram of soil has been detected in Iitate Village, about 40 kilometers northwest of the plant. Gakushuin University Professor Yasuyuki Muramatsu, an expert on radiation in the environment, says that normal levels of radioactive cesium-137 in soil are around 100 becquerels at most. The professor says he was surprised at the extremely high reading, which is 1,630 times higher than normal levels. He warns that since radioactive cesium remains in the environment for about 30 years it could affect agricultural products for a long time. -------------------------------- source: NHK news Be quiet fool! that's totally normal, you get that much radiation from living in a concrete building. Sheesh some people just get freaked out but I put that much Cesium-137 on my sandwich for fun!

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