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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
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Posted - 2012.09.04 14:30:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote:The CSM can't promise to get anything changed, they can only promise to ask CCP to get it changed. I really have no desire to go back to their election posts and/or blogs to see if they promised to get spod fixed. If they did, then go ahead and keep holding their feet to the fire about it, but if they merely stated that they'll push for it to be changed with CCP, then you need to let it go. He's already said he's brought it up with CCP, so either you think he's a liar, or well, since you keep going on about it, you think he's a liar. Stomping your feet screaming "BUT THEY PROMISED!" isn't going to get CCP to change it any faster.
I must have missed the answer in this lot. oops. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2826
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Posted - 2012.09.04 15:21:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:Well that's a far cry from CSM 6, which happened to be exactly that. In the aftermath of the Jita Riots, wasn't it determined that CCP asked the CSM for input for their future work and how relevant it was to the playerbase ?
If you can't ask them to do things, then I suggest telling US that you can get certain things done is an obvious blunder on your parts. Saying, "We will get X changes done" in a system where you can't suggest to CCP that particular things need priority over others, is again - your mistake.
Of course we can ask them to do things. What we can't do is promise you exactly what time they'll be completed, and by now you should know that no CSM member can actually make promises with 100% certainty that it'll get done at all, since CCP makes the final decisions.
You're trying to crucify Seleene for not having achieved a goal that he still has 6 months to achieve. I think most rational people see this as unreasonable, especially since its been stated dozens of times publicly by CCP that the winter expansion is focused on War, as was Inferno, and that Harvest and industry are the next theme to be explored in subsequent expansions. Even if Seleene were to "make happen" all the stuff you expect him to, it might fall in summer expansion, which would be released under the next CSM. I'd assume based on your pattern of hostility that you'd moan about his failure at that point too, even if it was his work that helped shape the agenda for that expansion.
You're also failing to recognize that much of our communication right now is under NDA, that once CCP has decided to release their winter planning in full we can have a more open conversation about what is and isn't going to be in there and why, and that in the mean time you personally have no way to verify that Seleene ISNT doing everything you've asked him to behind the scenes while you publicly lambaste him.
You're also once again ignoring the fact that I've already explained the fact that CSM6 got CCP's commitment (in terms of casual verbal agreement) to take input at an earlier process. Its not until now, under CSM7, that we've actually gotten a concrete plan, approved by Jon Lander, to integrate us as full stakeholders, a plan which is now under its trial phase and if successful will be a model for future projects. Until than, you have expectations of a power we don't have. We can talk all we want about what should be in an expansion (and we do, every day, on our internal communications channels) but that doesnt mean that the executives at CCP are obligated to listen to us. That may or may not change depending on how the stakeholder pilot program goes this fall.
Is there room in amongst all this to make suggestions about interim fixes for things that may not be slated till summer expansion? Sure! Will CCP listen and oblige us? Maybe, maybe not, depends on whether your idea of a quick fix is the same as theirs, and what resources human or otherwise it takes to accomplish that change, and it depends on whether CCP even agrees that your idea for a fix is good for the game at large.
The first step though is realizing that the CSM isn't your enemy, and stop treating them as such. Educate yourself as to what is reasonable to expect, in what timeframe, and show some patience and respect. You'll find it goes much further than knee-jerk rage because what you wanted isn't here, right now, in exactly the form you want it. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2826
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Posted - 2012.09.04 16:27:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote: This stuff is all fact, and irrefutable. The issue is that there's sufficient documention all over the web regarding their platforms for much of the CSM. NONE of it has come to pass for the next expansion, let alone these tiny fixes like the spodumain issue that was also promised. Please if you're going to attack me, have something concrete at least to attack me with - I at least give you and them that same respect.
I would absolutely love to see where I promised a Spodumain fix. Go ahead, find the link, and post it here. I deserve to be held accountable for my past commitments.
As for my platform - it absolutely speaks for itself. I talked about expanding on the role of the CSM, adding transparency to the minutes process and increasing its value. I talked about the need to push for stakeholdership and to deepen the relationship between the CSM and CCP. I talked about Faction Warfare in droves, outlined exactly what needs to be addressed, and the results are extremely, and visibly, self evident.
But the most important thing I stated during the election, more than any specific idea for any specific problem, is this:
" Platforms make for fun, fiery debates, and campaign promises are a dime a dozen GÇô but the reality is that it all changes once you're elected and in the office with CCP, because the CSM doesnGÇÖt dictate the agenda nor does it always have all the details of development work until they get there. "
...it was true than, its true now, and it applies to all the CSM representatives, not just myself. Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Revolution Rising
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
369
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Posted - 2012.09.04 17:32:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Is there room in amongst all this to make suggestions about interim fixes for things that may not be slated till summer expansion? Sure! Will CCP listen and oblige us? Maybe, maybe not, depends on whether your idea of a quick fix is the same as theirs, and what resources human or otherwise it takes to accomplish that change, and it depends on whether CCP even agrees that your idea for a fix is good for the game at large.
Malcanis put up a suggestion earlier regarding the spodumain issue.
I will totally back that suggestion even thought it was different from my own.
So now, happily you have a suggestion by someone else who realises that this might actually be an issue for a few people - who isn't mine - and perhaps get on your CSM batphone and ask for a change instead of - debating whether there was a change asked for, or - debating whether you can make the change happen, or - debating whether the change should be made, or - debating whether you're responsible for asking for it, or - debating about whether there should be vodka or scotch in your room on your next iceland visit - the important factors that are being debated day to day.
"Let us debate, not do."
This is a 4 year old issue to be honest, I really think barges are great and all, but ... not noteworthy in the scheme of things.
Changing the barges is not at all moving the terrible bottlenecks the mining industry is ACTUALLY working under.
So, let's recap shall we?
This is now no longer "my" idea. This is no longer only "me" who thinks this might be an issue as others have recognised - even those who originally didn't even know what I was talking about - that the spodumain might be a bit big. And given that spodumain is the worst ore in the game, mining corps who are renters are basically being nerfed by CCP for no good reason. As mining was a major platform so many CSM's stood on to get where they are...perhaps they'd like to TRY and fix it.
Or we can debate it some more, which is fine. After all, I have my words. CSM7 Skype Leak
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1873
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:23:00 -
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The sad thing about this thread so far is that it's been de-railed into a ***** fest because of a single issue, which myself and Hans have spent quite enough time already addressing. That is not why I started it. I did an AMA on Reddit and had people asking me about dozens of different things, probably because of the way it's formatted. Each question can get its own 'thread' so to speak. Here, it just turns into one mass of back and forth and that discourages others from even attempting to open a dialogue about their own concerns.
It was mentioned / asked a page or two ago about why the CSM (or even Devs) stop posting or responding to threads on these forums after a certain number of pages / replies. This thread is a perfect example as to why that happens sometimes. I didn't start it so I could spend the next 10 pages talking about one thing. So if you are reading this and have other questions or concerns, or know another player that would like some answers on other subjects, please point them here and I will do my best to answer them to the best of my ability.
o7  CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |

Salpun
Paramount Commerce Ascendance.
372
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:40:00 -
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How is the release planning going?
Sorry bad question. NDA slapped  |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1873
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:43:00 -
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Salpun wrote:How is the release planning going? Sorry bad question. NDA slapped 
It's gone well and I'm hoping to see more information pushed out to the community sooner than usual. The CSM has more visibility over the team we are stakeholders on (more about that as soon as we can talk more) but everything else seems to be moving along fine. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |

Salpun
Paramount Commerce Ascendance.
372
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:51:00 -
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Seleene wrote:Salpun wrote:How is the release planning going? Sorry bad question. NDA slapped  It's gone well and I'm hoping to see more information pushed out to the community sooner than usual. The CSM has more visibility over the team we are stakeholders on (more about that as soon as we can talk more) but everything else seems to be moving along fine. Thanks 
In the spirit of getting back to AMA questions.
Do you still see visualize Eve code when you are thinking thru issues players raise or has it mostly faded away. |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1873
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:54:00 -
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Salpun wrote:In the spirit of getting back to AMA questions.
Do you still see visualize Eve code when you are thinking thru issues players raise or has it mostly faded away.
I was never a programmer, I was in game design. I was ~ privileged ~ enough to tell the programmers what AMAZEBALLS AWESOME things they were going to get to program. (I think they still hate me for my part in POS gunnery).
CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |

Salpun
Paramount Commerce Ascendance.
372
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:00:00 -
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 Might want to tweet about this forum thread again alot of people probable gave up on it. Cross posting your best answers from the actual AMA might be a good idea. |

Evelgrivion
Gunpoint Diplomacy
163
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:05:00 -
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One of the usability issues that recently cropped up was the merger of chat windows with the neocom making it harder to keep track of channels. I'd love to have a dedicated chat window bar added in to take care of that, but any UI changes that make it easier to keep lots of chat windows open would be a very welcome improvement. Can the CSM put some pressure on CCP to fix this, if it hasn't already?
http://i.imgur.com/K8Xk1.jpg |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:06:00 -
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Can you please explain the difference between a producer, game designer, a game developer, an artist, a sysadmin/support role, and a stakeholder? Ideally, you should include how each one is able to influence what makes it into the game.
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce Ascendance.
372
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:07:00 -
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How about a AMA with you in the NDA sealed Dust forums  |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4514
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:08:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Malcanis wrote:Malc's quick SpodfixGäó: Add a bunch of low-end minerals to it, sufficient to make it the 4th or 5th most valuable ore. This simultaneously makes it worth mining and increases the quantity of low-end minerals locally available to 0.0 industry.
By low end do you mean plagioclase and scordite? An ore chart has them as the third and fourth best ores. Yes lets put hi sec ores in low sec, so they make more money, and the pvp and getting ganked is worth it.
Those are ores, not minerals. I'd propose that adding a moderate amount of Trit, Pyer and Mex to Spodumain ore, sufficient to make it actually worth mining instead of being the worst ore. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1873
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:09:00 -
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Evelgrivion wrote:One of the usability issues that recently cropped up was the merger of chat windows with the neocom making it harder to keep track of channels. I'd love to have a dedicated chat window bar added in to take care of that, but any UI changes that make it easier to keep lots of chat windows open would be a very welcome improvement. Can the CSM put some pressure on CCP to fix this, if it hasn't already? http://i.imgur.com/K8Xk1.jpg
I'd love something like this. I'll paste this pic to one of the UI peeps in the morning. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4514
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:10:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:Malc's quick SpodfixGäó: Add a bunch of low-end minerals to it, sufficient to make it the 4th or 5th most valuable ore. This simultaneously makes it worth mining and increases the quantity of low-end minerals locally available to 0.0 industry. It also screws up the interdependent nature of Eve.
When Veldspar and Scordite are the most valuable ores, I'd suggest that a little rebalancing away from the "low end" ores is due.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1873
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:13:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Can you please explain the difference between a producer, game designer, a game developer, an artist, a sysadmin/support role, and a stakeholder? Ideally, you should include how each one is able to influence what makes it into the game.
-Liang
Initially I was going to just wing this question and put down my impressions of each based on past experience, but I don't want to put out something that might be mistakenly taken as ~gospel~. So I'm going to poke a couple CCPers and see if I can get something a bit more 'official' and correct. I'll send the email tonight and post the answer as soon as I get a reply.  CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |

Liang Nuren
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
2047
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:15:00 -
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Seleene wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Can you please explain the difference between a producer, game designer, a game developer, an artist, a sysadmin/support role, and a stakeholder? Ideally, you should include how each one is able to influence what makes it into the game.
-Liang Initially I was going to just wing this question and put down my impressions of each based on past experience, but I don't want to put out something that might be mistakenly taken as ~gospel~. So I'm going to poke a couple CCPers and see if I can get something a bit more 'official' and correct. I'll send the email tonight and post the answer as soon as I get a reply. 
Thanks Seleene. :)
-Liang Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
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Jace Errata
Lawlz Brawlz
264
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:23:00 -
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This may seem silly, but my question is...do you have any record of the answers (if they were answered) to my questions from the recent CSM Town Hall? I'm a bit time-limited, so I never did get round to listening to it. For reference, here are the questions in..uh..question:
Jace Errata wrote:Q1: Aggression mechanics It's mentioned in the CSM Summit minutes that low-sec gate guns will engage players for any offence, including "suspect" flagged-offences (currently the equivalent of Yellow aggression timers). Since that includes things as minor as can-flipping, is this likely to be reconsidered, and if not would it also apply to high-sec guns?
Q2: New POSes With the new modular POS system, will the option for a true POS, as opposed to a COS, be available? I'd like to be able to set up a small hangout to keep a few ships and emergency supplies.
Q3: [General not just Summit] Can anything be done towards getting V3 skins sharpened up? As it stands, they're painfully blurry when zoomed in (the most obvious example I can bring to mind is the Raven).
Q4: [General] What's the CSM's opinion on Asuka Solo's PI 2.0 suggestion?
Q5: [Requisite humour] How likely is my CSM8 campaign, "What's a CSM? (from the team that brought you Operation Dread Intrusion)" to succeed? Stealth OST puns and blatant lies since 2009 Jace Errata on Twitter
One day they woke me up so I could live forever It's such a shame the same will never happen to you |

GeeShizzle MacCloud
204
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:35:00 -
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Seleene, would love to know, as you've been part of CCP and the games industry as a whole for a good long while, how would one go about getting into the industry if you dont have many technical skills in the area? (im not massively skilled in one area, but quite adequate in a variety of areas)
is it something that having a degree in an appropriate field is the best course of action or... is working from an entry level internship better? |

GeeShizzle MacCloud
204
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Posted - 2012.09.04 22:03:00 -
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Also, not many people talk about or ask about what the web dev teams are up to, i guess many of them are working on implementing CREST etc...
I was wondering how viable shifting corp management away from a purely in-game client to something that can be accessed in a web client would be?
it was something that was inspired by Dust514's devs revealing they are letting people use sonys Vita to sort out the more mundane things so that peoples console-time is maximised to fun stuff! A lot of management level people in corps want to maximise their time enjoying eve, but always tend to have administrative stuff to deal with typically before doing so. It would also pave the way for more integrated eve corp management tools. Large nullsec corps and alliances tend to have coded private tools that help with corp / alliance / coalition management, these sorts of things are another part of the 'barrier of entry' to null sec. |

Tanaka Aiko
ICE is Coming to EVE Goonswarm Federation
107
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Posted - 2012.09.04 22:19:00 -
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Seleene, can you tell us a bit about when we wil be able to know things ? like when there will be a devblog about some winter features, or about new infos on the pos revamp, or how they are thinking about doing pos now ? I know they don't want to give dates, as it's horrible for them, but a general idea of the timing would be nice :)
also, about incarna, is the goal is now the wormhole complex thing only, or does the old corp quarters / bars / minigames and so on are still on the table ? |

Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
319
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Posted - 2012.09.05 00:49:00 -
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how confident are you about CCP implementing more reasons to undock (and interact with other players) in the foreseeable future ?
what would you prefer, a nerf to the industrial potential of highsec or a boost to what can be done in lowsec ? (its clear that nullsec needs a boost) |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4514
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Posted - 2012.09.05 08:08:00 -
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Seleene, can you give me your personal feeling on how Dust will work out from the perspective of EVE players? No NDA breaking stuff ofc, just your ~crystal ball~.
TIA Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
70
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:06:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Case in point: There's 100-page threadnoughts about Incarna - and that's not coming in winter.
Yeah, that writing's been on the wall for a while. At this point, the thread's primary concern is whether anything Incarna related is coming at all.
Can I read you between the lines here as saying that something is coming, but not this winter?
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2842
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:11:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Case in point: There's 100-page threadnoughts about Incarna - and that's not coming in winter. Yeah, that writing's been on the wall for a while. At this point, the thread's primary concern is whether anything Incarna related is coming at all. Can I read you between the lines here as saying that something is coming, but not this winter?
Nope, can't guarantee that, either.  Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
70
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:40:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Nope, can't guarantee that, either. 
Ugh. The universe just got a lot less vast, and the game got a lot less immersive.
Thanks for the prompt reply. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4522
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:09:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Case in point: There's 100-page threadnoughts about Incarna - and that's not coming in winter. Yeah, that writing's been on the wall for a while. At this point, the thread's primary concern is whether anything Incarna related is coming at all. Can I read you between the lines here as saying that something is coming, but not this winter? Nope, can't guarantee that, either. 
Can you undertake to press CCP more strongly for a "State of play" report with respect to the Incarna project? Let us at least know where we stand.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
2842
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:20:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Can you undertake to press CCP more strongly for a "State of play" report with respect to the Incarna project? Let us at least know where we stand.
Well yes, the CSM has been doing this already - our last attempt at getting them to open up to the public resulted in this post. We asked them to put the dev blog out, especially since the developers working on Incarna had already shared details indicating the state of the project in that thread.
Like CCP Bayesian said, this is swallowed in "corporateness" and appears like it will remain there for some time. We will continue to push CCP to be transparent with the public about their work on Incarna, but I simply have no way to guarantee when that's going to happen. We know about as much as you do as to when the information will start flowing again. And yes, its frustrating.  Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1875
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:50:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Can you undertake to press CCP more strongly for a "State of play" report with respect to the Incarna project? Let us at least know where we stand.
Very busy RL day today so I'll be back to answering stuff soon, but I wanted to hit this quickly - this is something I've actually pushed for more clarity on recently and am hoping to get more info soon. When I get something back from CCP that I can talk about or I can get them to address it publicly, I'll update it here. CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
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