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Lacrimae Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.27 21:49:00 - [1] Edited by: Lacrimae on 27/03/2011 21:50:27 First of all, thanks to both players and CCP for an absolutely mindblowing fanfest experience - having been to all 7 iterations, it's awesome to see what it has grown into. However, I wanted to give a bit of feedback on the organising for both Fanfest and the final party (no, this is not a thread about what was told and not told, simply comments on how things were planned). Positive things: Hot food outside - in general, food quality had become better over the year, thanks for that! Schedule available early Queue for registration seemed to work a lot better than previous years Clearing TQ between talks. While it sucks to have to leave between presentations if you have a good seat, it does make it more fair. No peeshark agent mission. Doesn't exactly need more explanation ;) Things which could be improved: "Non-smoking path" outside main entrance. I appreciate that smoking is outside only, but you literally had to brave a cloud of smoke when moving outside - including queueing for food or just entering/ exiting venue. This is however just as much an issue with smokers themselves (I know that - used to be one myself :P) Less NPCs at the final party! The amount of people let in made it suddenly feel like us geeks were on display and just kind of tolerated, instead of this being a party to celebrate the end of an awesome Fanfest. I miss the days of it being all about celebrating EVE and with EVE related things throughout the night, instead of the teenage tan-fest it turned into. Manned wardrobe wanted for final party! It took us 20min to find our stuff, spread over the floor and table behind the coat racks. Loads of people lost stuff. We also had to rescue a girl who was literally getting choked after one of the racks fell on her! Slightly more varied music at party. More RoXoR. Last year, you blew our minds with the symphony orchestra playing EVE music for example. Try to mix both rock and electronic bands for "headliners".
Wollari Phoenix Industries	Posted - 2011.03.27 22:02:00 - [2] I can only support Lacrimaes items. :: Party Stuff The party felt like a party for 15-18 year old girls to get drunk. I know that CCP's mission was to bring EVE and Icelandic people together, but it was a bit strange. No room to move, a full packed hall, etc. We mostly ended up being outside or in the ex-pvp arena just to relax from the big hall and having fun with the other players. I really missed the majority of seating possibilities we had in 2009. It would have been a good addition to had them to the ex-pvp arena for those who don't wanna hear electronic music all the time or just to relax between the headliners. :: Fanfest Stuff The only thing I had to point out was the fact that I missed the opening ceremony cause of the parallel community/fansite roundtables. I really liked the fact that you opened up the upper part of TQ for those who didn't got a seat on the floor.
Rognin Minmatar No.Mercy Merciless.	Posted - 2011.03.27 22:28:00 - [3] Originally by: Lacrimae Edited by: Lacrimae on 27/03/2011 22:07:26 Things which could be improved: Less NPCs at the final party! The amount of people let in made it suddenly feel like us geeks were on display and just kind of tolerated, instead of this being a party to celebrate the end of an awesome Fanfest. I miss the days of it being all about celebrating EVE and with EVE related things throughout the night, instead of the teenage tan-fest it turned into. Manned wardrobe wanted for final party! It took us 20min to find our stuff, spread over the floor and table behind the coat racks. Loads of people lost stuff. We also had to rescue a girl who was literally getting choked after one of the racks fell on her! These two points. Although Icelandic women look ****ing great, it felt as if we were intruders. Also the fact that it was jam packed with hardly any seating. Other than that, it was my best trips yet!
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.28 00:22:00 - [4] I agree with the points above. In addition to that please use bigger rooms for the presentations and more but smaller rooms for the roundtables. Preferably do each roundtable twice as they always will collide with presentations and it is easier to have a discussion with fewer people around each table. Four fanfests and counting here.
Jack DuVal Wolfsbrigade	Posted - 2011.03.28 01:13:00 - [5] Edited by: Jack DuVal on 28/03/2011 01:15:15 Overall, great Fanfest! Will be back next year for more. But yeah, party, please fix it. The hour-long gaps of lounge music were annoying. And no matter how hot Icelandic women may be, please revert it to Fanfest-attendees only.
Eomar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.28 02:09:00 - [6] +1 agree with lacrimenace. food was definately better, pizza pretty terribad tho ;) im sure jinx will raeg about catering at some point so i'll leave that to him, suffice to say that while I didnt eat (eatins cheatin') the live-wok and burger arrangement was a welcome sight. Bar stock and variation was 1 MILLLION times better than previous years, much much love for that <3 <3 <3 <3 keep that up and Eomar will continue to be happy bunny. NPCs in the party was a bit of a downer, I saw many many geeks being drunk, stupid and generally obnoxious but in a friendly and all-encompassing manner. The tone of the evening changed massively towards the end of the night: a lot less banter and amusement and a lot more blatant ****ery. ( I'm saying this with some confidence that anyone who encountered the Veto blob at least had a bit of fun and didnt feel too outraged, offended or intimidated) I can understand the need to make some money back, but taking one quite close knit mob with a common interest and adding A.N.OTHER can be troublesome, especially when you take into account EVE having a significant population that do not adhere to social 'norm' and a notable chunk of the extras were clearly from a very distinct group (tanfest was one way of putting it) I guess there's some hypocrisy in the 'us and them' approach, but with the huge variation in Fanfest attendees and the notably non-variant blob that descended later on it is worth mentioning. make sense??? All in all, had a great time, was good to meet old friends and make some new ones, already planning for next one! (will probably attempt to tidy this post up when ive sobered up some ;) )

CCP Daishi	Posted - 2011.03.28 15:26:00 - [7] Keep the feedback coming in and also please go here to answer the survey: http://fanfest2011.questionpro.com/

Jinx Denton Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.28 16:15:00 - [8] Oooooh, a chance for me to be an opinionated **. I'll start by being nice: Food was better, thanks to the burgers and wok outside The bar had better variety General organization was far better with regards to conference as a whole All the devs that had presentations or speeches did a very good job Buuuuut, there was stuff that ground my gears: Polar Beer. It's the worst slosh that's brewed in this country. I couldn't drink it and a beerless Jinx is not a nice Jinx. The pizza and inside catering was still a bit . General overpricing and awful pizza. No reserved front & centre seats for Veto corp. What the was up with that? The party was a special chapter all by itself. FM Belfast did a good job. So did R÷xx÷R. They entertained the crowd. Then hit the fan, the venue filled up with s and turned Fanfest to Tanfest. Security was in shambles by then and me and our crew decided to GTFO. Also, dubstep Please CCP. Please do not market our precious fanfest to the Skinka crowd next year. Those *****s are the antithesis to us geeks.
Jinx Denton Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.28 16:17:00 - [9] Also. In that survey. There's no option for Iceland as your country of origin. Just thought I'd point that out as a bit silly
Erestas Drake	Posted - 2011.03.28 16:26:00 - [10] Was organized well and much fun, however a few points. Keynote presentations: I can safely say I know more about NVIDEAs marketing now then about the upcoming things in EVE. What was shown there regarding EVE was mostly fluff and in case of the turrets and captains quarters looked more like "oh ****, we need to show at least something, lets make up something fast" with the usual promises that might never come (systemwide asteroids and expanding T3 and so one mentioned 18 months ago for example). Safe to say focus shifted during that time, but this year again there was not much to be considered real announcements or even hard facts for that matter. It definitely didnt "Deliver!". Roundtables: - can understand the avenue has limited space and roundtables are "focus groups" but using rooms for around 30 to 40 ppl for "most wanted" topics like large scale warfare,0.0 and DUST was bit of a let down. Transcripts or recordings of roundtables might be nice. Party: -Place was packed, which was nice, but needs more quieter areas. Entrance outside and inside was obviously "claimed" by the ppl because of that. -Manned wardrobe. Seriously, searching 30 mins for our stuff kind of crashed it. Golden circle tour: -Tour guide on one of the buses was obviously uncomfortable in english. -Some of the locations could have been left out or replaced, the greenhouse was the worst offender, did you have some kind of deal with them to get a cut on anything bought there? Otherwise well done, considering going for 3rd time.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2011.03.28 17:06:00 - [11] I'll add my opinions to the lot. Fanfest itself was great, although larger rooms for the round tables will be needed next time, all of them were full in an instant this year. As for the rest, a somewhat larger venue would be nice if you plan to allow for even more players, the promenade and various other areas were packed at all times unless something big was going on in Tranquility. I rather liked the improved content of the bar, more choice of non-alcoholic drinks and more varried food was awesome to have handy. As a rather sensitive eared individual I was getting a skull crushing headache from the music even with a pair of special concert earplugs. Loud music is fine with those earplugs, but you really overdid it with the volume. Wearing them just cut the noise level down to what a normal concert sounds like without them, in the end I left at around 23:00 with a pounding headache. Not a pleasant experience.
Shandir Minmatar EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.03.28 17:06:00 - [12] Must say that I agree that CCP presents was sickenly lacking in content, and the chat feed of the EVETV stream was pretty upset about it. When you spend over 30 minutes on silly videos (some of which were funny, some of which weren't), and 30 minutes doing an NVidia advert that we're paying to watch, then we're going to feel a bit robbed. I get the feeling that CCP has taken the CSMs 'Underpromise, Overdeliver' too far in the underpromise direction, and it feels very much like CCP is afraid to do anything which could be misconstrued as a promise. Much of what I've seen so far was great, and I would love to go next year, circumstances willing, but this concept seemed to ebb from every panel and presentation I watched. - Vote Trebor Daehdoow for CSM and Chairman of CSM. Trebor's Campaign Manifesto
Eomar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.28 17:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Shandir it feels very much like CCP is afraid to do anything which could be misconstrued as a promise. Actually that does have the ring of truth, but for a damn good reason, every time CCP even hint at doing something, or make a joke about doing something there are a million **wits instantly forum whining (followed swiftly by a million ing trolls encouraging the whining) They were pretty clear on their vision - and they've indicated pretty clearly the path they intend to follow to achieve it without giving enough rope to hang themselves later on with "waaah you said this and you haven't done it" Seems to be a pretty sensible way of going about it. The majority of the presentations seemed to be heading towards a better CCP, not the corporate bull they were heading towards with 'excellence' instead back to the old "check out the awesome ** we're up to : this is what were passionate about and we want you to come along with it" there was still some corporate schmooze granted but was not so bad.
Grek Forto Crosshair Corp	Posted - 2011.03.28 17:41:00 - [14] Edited by: Grek Forto on 28/03/2011 17:42:35 I actually like the fact that CCP told us that what they are doing takes some time because of various reasons (such as developing Carbon) instead of showing us things that might not ever be in the game. Because even though they showed various new things, they were pretty clear that it was things that are heavily subject to change or re-imagining from what they originally showed. All in all I feel that the theme of FanFest this year was not "Gallente" (which was all over the venue) but instead "Vision". CCP showed us that in the end, despite all the unwarranted whining (keep in mind, there is good whining too), they love EVE and won't do anything to gamble with its future since they apparently have a very good focus, a vision. It might take time, but it might be worth the wait. That said, there were some things that could be done slightly different. I like the fact that the next FanFest will be held at the building they are building in downtown Reykjavik (according to Hilmar), though probably because that would spare me bus ride (with crazy drivers!). More tables to sit down by in between sessions of presentations and whatnot would also be nice. Some people have mentioned the wardrobe issue too. Even though my friend and I had no problem finding out clothes, I'd imagine most people had. Not nice. Can't think of much else right now, but if I do I'll post it here.
Merkus Letifer Gallente Everset Dropbears Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.03.28 18:08:00 - [15] Edited by: Merkus Letifer on 28/03/2011 18:16:27 Edited by: Merkus Letifer on 28/03/2011 18:11:18 Good positive points. But so many things need improvement. I missed it this year, but I went in 2009 and it was awesome!! Not for the amount of content made available to people but for the round-tables, which for me, made ALL the difference. Mass presentations were fun in 2009 but not straight to the point. I gotta say I didn't appreciate the VERY SHORT Q&A session back then, or this year's even shorter versions...it seemed like they didn't want us to ask too many pertinent questions, and when someone did ask them, they would quickly turn into a big laugh with a pointless joke...Needz more professionalism and blunt honesty. CCP is still the best for doing this the way they do, even though there's always room for improvement. (edit: Followed this year's on the live feed) I never had the chance to thank the VETO folks for the private party in their secret apartment back in 2009. This bunch is a lot of fun indeed! Hope to meet again if I can make it next time!! Cheers! Merk 07
xestria	Posted - 2011.03.28 20:58:00 - [16] Best things: Dr Eyjo's presentation (lots of interesting market analysis tied back to real game events) "Feelgood" keynote Devtracks Lots of CCP staff clearly love what they do Worst things: Snow and my inappropriate porus footwear Perhaps a bit thin on the ground on revelations. Many of the roundtables I attended turned into a "will you implement <blahblah>?". 90% of the time <blahblah> was something that would improve their life or harm someone else's. 90% of the answers from CCP were Good idea but no resource/on the list/no. The "Good idea but no resource" was particularly evident in the PVE roundtable, which was quite frustrating to listen to. I would have liked roundtables to focus on discussion or presentation on "best practices" in industry, wormholes or whatever. Would have been especially useful for players new to those areas.
DNSBLACK Gallente Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.	Posted - 2011.03.28 21:37:00 - [17] Reserving spot to add my 2 cents just got home and still not sober. Lacrimae i want that picture asap and you know the one iam talking about. I will add to this thread later just to dam tired right now. Black
Ibrahas Minmatar EVE University Ivy League	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:10:00 - [18] THE GOOD Biggest surprise to me was the economic presentation. Doctor Eyjo has to enjoy his work, lots of enthusiasm there. Liked how the que flowed quickly on day 1. Good selection of food at the venue and the price was not the normal con robbery. THE BAD Bigger round table areas for some of the more popular topic, some of the ones filled up to quickly. DidnÆt notice the number of Non-EVE people at the party will blame that on the gang that was so much fun to party with. I fly a Starship across the universe divide.....
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:13:00 - [19] Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 28/03/2011 22:17:36 I pretty much agree with everything that has been said so far. Especially regarding the party; this is probably the biggest party of the year in Iceland so I wouldn't want it to be some kind of elitist "EvE players only" thing, but there should be a cap on how many rank-and-file Icelanders are let in. I felt that towards the end the atmosphere took a palpable turn for the worse, and there were people kicking off and being separated by security on more than one occasion in the area just outside the dance hall, which is never nice. More musical variation would have been good as well; more RoXoR, more Permaband, more Stevie, less "wob wob wob" dubstep Also, @ Veto Corp members; Who was that dark-haired beauty in the Guristas uniform with Verone? If that's his girlfriend, he's batting WELL above his average
Senghir Amarr Sword Of The Empire	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:18:00 - [20] Holy crap. Let me get this straight.... Girls Teenage Attractive Tanned Out for a good time And this made fanfest BAD???? Lol only in a game full of uber geeks could this situation ever be undesirable. But the attendess of fanfest must be some breed of super geek to not only feel a little uncomfortable, but actually hostile towards these people. Wow :)

CCP Punkturis	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:24:00 - [21] positive: YOU GUYS! Thanks for making fanfest awesome for me! I had so much fun hanging out with/chatting with you all

Tsumei Meyren Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:25:00 - [22] I thoroughly loved the entire event, but I do agree with most of Lacrimae's points... Especially considering the party at the end, I dressed up a little for that, wore a dress and everything, and then upon arrival at the event I was surprised to see that I was probably the most underdressed person in existance apart from all the guys.. It was weird I suppose, not that I mind people who don't play eve, but there's such a thing as moderation when it comes to inviting people to a party that is more or less for nerds :P I suppose the only good part was that I wasn't the stalked one for that one night. - OH. And TRASHCANS. We need **ing trashcans, I was punched in an intimate area by a guy who tripped over a bottle of smirnoff, and it still hurts. The first drink I had, I literally left the party area to throw away, at the end of the party it was hard to walk without stepping on something, not to mention dance. -------------------------------------------------------- Creative Cookie Procuring [Girl.] Are recruiting!**
Effortless Breeze Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:27:00 - [23] The only thing that really bothered me was the Nvidia commercial during CCP Presents. If I wanted to look at graphs showing the evolution of Nvidia chipsets, I would have Googled them. You didn't need to take all that time out of one of your most important talks to sell Nvidia products. .... or am I just dreaming?
Eomar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Senghir Holy crap. Let me get this straight.... Girls Teenage Attractive Tanned Out for a good time And this made fanfest BAD???? Lol only in a game full of uber geeks could this situation ever be undesirable. But the attendess of fanfest must be some breed of super geek to not only feel a little uncomfortable, but actually hostile towards these people. Wow :) protip: wasnt one of the geeks being thrown into the back of the police car. Hostility wasn't coming from the fanfest attendees... and yeah pretty girls are nice, in fact Reykjavic is rammed to the rooftops with them and heading downtown to get hunted by them is always a pleasure, sadly wherever you find pretty girls you frequently get hopped up ****s causing hassle, not so much of a problem in a nightclub when you can leave and/or watch them get a hiding by the bouncers..
iridize	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:42:00 - [25] This was my first fanfest and overall i was very impressed, both with what CCP did and with the community in general. I have to say, for a game full of the biggest scammers, liers, backstabers and a-holes... everyone there was really nice :) I enjoyed all the presentations, although i have to say 1 or 2 of the devs didn't seem to be able to control the room in the round tables to allow proper discussion, and it was left to the community to settle the room in order to have everybody heard. The food outside was good (though a little undercooked due to the size of the queue), but the food inside was a little bit more expensive. bottles of water A++++ excellent choice, probably kept a lot of people from getting ill. Keynote - lacked some solid content, but what was shown was very good. Oh, and we get it, you guys are BFF with Nvidia, but please, next year dont turn the keynote into a sales pitch for a sponsor. Blue Lagoon was great, and the fact a dev turned up to ask for feedback on the fanfest was nice. smoking outside the entrance right next to the food wasn't clever. releasing dev blogs about "important" (and ******ed) 0.0 changes while a majority of the 0.0 leaders were at fanfest with out decent internet... you werent really thinking there were you? Party at the top of the world, started pretty well, but as soon as the local kids started barging in they kind of took over and a majority of eve players were pushed out. some where SECURE to leave your coats. They are just some little things i can think of right now, i really had a great time, and im sure i will still attend next year :)
Sgt Napalm SiN Corp Majesta Empire	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:42:00 - [26] Originally by: Lacrimae Edited by: Lacrimae on 27/03/2011 22:07:26 First of all, thanks to both players and CCP for an absolutely mindblowing fanfest experience - having been to all 7 iterations, Positive things: Hot food outside - in general, food quality had become a lot better over the years, thanks for that! I remember eating plain white rice during Fanfest 06 when I flew a set of Rex's with you. Hahaha....
Myxx Atropos Group	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:54:00 - [27] the good: almost everything, loved watching the boxing on the stream the bad: Nvidia had too much stage time. less corporate bull** please, thanks. -- Originally by:** CCP Explorer (and if you guys would also stop using Drakes it would be really appreciated, kthxbye).
Barakkus	Posted - 2011.03.28 22:57:00 - [28] Originally by: Myxx the good: almost everything, loved watching the boxing on the stream the bad: Nvidia had too much stage time. less corporate bull**** please, thanks. Yeah, I had my wife watch it, now she wants to go to fanfest when we can actually afford it lol. - - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring
Ryan Sheppard	Posted - 2011.03.28 23:05:00 - [29] Just wanted to get my 2ISK in here and say that i disagree with the hate-on of the big party. I loved the fact that the locals were invited and i think it was a great turnout. Makes it cool that they are willing to come out to a nerd fest and turn it into a great party! I for one had a blast and experienced 0 hostility from anyone... and i spent most of my time right in the middle of the floor! Thanks a lot CCP and i hope i can make it again next year! Shep.
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.03.28 23:17:00 - [30] Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 28/03/2011 23:17:44 Originally by: CCP Punkturis positive: YOU GUYS! Thanks for making fanfest awesome for me! I had so much fun hanging out with/chatting with you all Your name makes me think that you might be one of hot female devs with facial piercings and bright neon green dreadlocks...confirm/deny?

CCP Punkturis	Posted - 2011.03.28 23:25:00 - [31] Originally by: Jovan Geldon Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 28/03/2011 23:17:44 Originally by: CCP Punkturis positive: YOU GUYS! Thanks for making fanfest awesome for me! I had so much fun hanging out with/chatting with you all Your name makes me think that you might be one of hot female devs with facial piercings and bright neon green dreadlocks...confirm/deny? haha! My name has (unfortunately) nothing to do with punk even though it includes the word.. but those devs have awesome hair indeed!

Lacrimae Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.29 07:56:00 - [32] Edited by: Lacrimae on 29/03/2011 07:59:18 I was tripped by some random Icelandic girl who apparently didn't like me being tall. However, it wasn't so much outright hostility I was experiencing in general, but it wasn't a party to celebrate EVE either after RoXoR left stage (though FM Belfast did quite well) - it seemed more like any other concert that just happened to have quite a few EVE players and the others just kind of tolerated us while they took over. One thing I've realized that I missed the most is the lounge area of 2009 where the PvP tourney had been. That gave people a chance to sit down and talk and be social, as well as get away from the hustle for a bit. Originally by: Jovan Geldon Also, @ Veto Corp members; Who was that dark-haired beauty in the Guristas uniform with Verone? If that's his girlfriend, he's batting WELL above his average The one with multiple braids? That would indeed be Shae Tiann, Verone's gf :D
Liu Ellens Minmatar	Posted - 2011.03.29 08:34:00 - [33] For me all was quite fun for my first fanfest - I highly recommend repeating that open-mic "panel" next time(s)! The boxing event showed a very extreme variant of a combination of deadly-serious and staged-goofiness - Blood-soaked face for charity - you don't have that on the "Who wants to be a millionaire - Celebrity" show; The two commenter were awesome with their witty lines :) It was great to have a printed schedule, but I'd have preferred the start/end times to be aligned across all rooms. That way you can compare what is at the same time more easily. Also: Coffee crawl ftw! -- We race. We die. There is no beauty anymore.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.29 09:19:00 - [34] I tend to agree with Lacrimae to be honest. Fanfest was awesome as always, but there were a few small things that were a bit meh. I think the OP pretty much covers it perfectly. Originally by: Jovan Geldon Also, @ Veto Corp members; Who was that dark-haired beauty in the Guristas uniform with Verone? If that's his girlfriend, he's batting WELL above his average Thanks for the compliment >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Smertrios Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.29 11:49:00 - [35] I agree with Lac tbh, she has summed things up well. One thing i really did miss from last time was the epic rear projection screen in the main presentation area, with the station ships moving about in massive size!... that was amazing. The stars this year were a bit meh.
EL TITAN Caldari Red Sky Morning BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.03.29 12:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Rognin Originally by: Lacrimae Edited by: Lacrimae on 27/03/2011 22:07:26 Things which could be improved: Less NPCs at the final party! The amount of people let in made it suddenly feel like us geeks were on display and just kind of tolerated, instead of this being a party to celebrate the end of an awesome Fanfest. I miss the days of it being all about celebrating EVE and with EVE related things throughout the night, instead of the teenage tan-fest it turned into. Manned wardrobe wanted for final party! It took us 20min to find our stuff, spread over the floor and table behind the coat racks. Loads of people lost stuff. We also had to rescue a girl who was literally getting choked after one of the racks fell on her! These two points. Although Icelandic women look ****ing great, it felt as if we were intruders. Also the fact that it was jam packed with hardly any seating. Other than that, it was my best trips yet! Then go to the f'ing gym ffs!! Icelandic Women are smoking hot - pull ya finger out and you might get lucky next time.... thats now your goal big boy for next fanfest?
Space Wanderer	Posted - 2011.03.29 13:07:00 - [37] Unfortunately I couldn't make it to fanfest this year, but if the party was similar to that of 2009 I really don't see the problem. Lots of pretty ladies in the same place, often doing the first move themselves. How could you ask for more? One way to accomodate for those who don't feel like mixing with locals is maybe to have another large room (the Tranquility room?), possibly accessible only to attendees (not sure about that), with lots of seats and music at a very low volume so to allow normal conversation. Just food for thought anyway, I am quite content with the party.
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.03.29 13:21:00 - [38] Edited by: Jovan Geldon on 29/03/2011 13:21:12 Originally by: Verone Originally by: Jovan Geldon Also, @ Veto Corp members; Who was that dark-haired beauty in the Guristas uniform with Verone? If that's his girlfriend, he's batting WELL above his average Thanks for the compliment <3 Although I'd love you more if you learned to pronounce our corp name properly
Sedilis Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.03.29 14:01:00 - [39] Firtly thank you CCP for a truly Epic three days Food was definitely better. RoXoR and FM Belfast we epic. Need more of them and Permaband. Booka Shade... meah. Great selection of stuff on the program Much better organised with the registration etc Please try to run the PvP torny on time or at least publish a new schedule. My team missed most of Friday while waiting for our matches. Where were the big screens playing eve videos at the party on Saturday? Need more spaceship p0rn next year please. Also bring back music intros while people go into TQ. Walking in there for the big events last time you have prodigy and RATM playing. What happened to the free shots during Pub Crawl with a Dev? We got one but last year I thought there was one per bar? Finally FFS make sure you announce the date and let people book early next year. Dont wait until the last second to tell us your putting it back six months.
Mister Rocknrolla	Posted - 2011.03.29 14:31:00 - [40] Why didn't any Devs show up to the FW panel CCP organized?
Rainus Max Fusion Enterprises Ltd Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2011.03.29 22:01:00 - [41] Fanfest was fantastic as usual, loved the Blue Lagoon (shame its such a short visit). I managed to get a sinus cold and lost my voice on registration day but I braved through and attended most of it. A couple of things I think were a bit strange or could do with a bit of improvement: The Goldern Circle Tour with the Devs, was missing the Devs (or they were bloody well hidden in the coach) The talks seemed shorter and didnt 'reveal' that much. I was expecting a huge chunk on Incarna but it was a 20min talk that was later 90% repeated in key note/CCP presents. Vuks lack of presence on the CSM stuff. Yes alright he rage-quit but not even a 'thank you' for his work over the years came across to me as a bit of a sad attempt to avoid the issue. I'd love to see the next Fanfest in a bigger venue, I think we are starting to stretch the limits, especially in Sisi and Multi rooms. I would also like to see the old Icelandair booking system that lets me pick exactly what days I want to fly in/out this 5/6/7 day option really screwed up the ability to do a flight from Manchester AND do the goldern circle
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Eleutherian Guard	Posted - 2011.03.29 22:11:00 - [42] Apparently CCP didn't turn up to the FW roundtable. Please turn up at your own events. ------------ Lum Gen Seriphyn Inhonores FDU Commanding Officer, Eleutherian Guard
Yblarbo Janks Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.29 22:20:00 - [43] Edited by: Yblarbo Janks on 29/03/2011 22:21:39 Janks was very displeased with the stocking of the Eve Store. No Guristas Lighter was the first problem. Then selling out of things on 2nd day and no restocking make it worse. Janks is sure it looked great on paper "WE SOLD OUT OF STUFF" but there is the flipside, a lot of money lost by simply doing a poor job stocking it. And thanks to all that came to the Veto Pool Tourny, and sorry to whoever got pegged in the knee by the Janks on his first break. (Janks was aiming for your manboobies) Janks is a natural sex object. When he ask the ladies for sex, they object!
Har Harrison Amarrian Retribution	Posted - 2011.03.29 23:24:00 - [44] Originally by: CCP Daishi Keep the feedback coming in and also please go here to answer the survey: http://fanfest2011.questionpro.com/ I didn't attend - but I was told no one attended the FW round table - I have a thread about it here - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1489084 P.S. Apologies to OP for any potential ninja moves in relation to his thread... Would someone from CCP please comment on it...
Halaxi Caldari Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.29 23:28:00 - [45] Edited by: Halaxi on 29/03/2011 23:31:03 Edited by: Halaxi on 29/03/2011 23:30:39 On the whole, it was a pretty good FanFest, CCP staff were cool and definatly willing and able to mingle with the players and talk EvE, or just have some random banter. Presentations were good, and although they may not have been stocked with OMG levels of cool 'coming soon' stuff (suprise of suprises, asking CCP to focus on polishing/fixing/debuging existing content leads to not as much new stuff), the new stuff they had was very nice. I'm sure there were some squeals Some minor issues however, mostly due to organisation: * some roundtables either did not have a ccp person there, or were not managed properly so that whatever good ideas could have come up were just swallowed by the usual moaning (large scale combat round table being a prime example of the latter - please make sure whoever is chairing the tables is actually able to do that task, or indeed turns up) * cloakroom and lobby area: sweet baby jesus, would it have hurt to turn the lights up a litte? Also, could have done with say an extra rack (stop laughing!) for folks coats and such. * Party at the top of the world: was fun as usual, however a couple extra bins would have made the staff and party goers lives a little easier. Music was good, but more variety would have made it awesome. Inviting the locals...okay, looking at it objectivly I get that it's a good business idea (more sales, greater exposure, etc), but there really should have been more bouncers, as there just wasn't enough for that number of people. I personally didn't get any bother with the locals, but I saw plenty of them acting like ****ed drunken *heads, and heard/saw others having issues, all of which could have been solved with more of a security presence. I also perfectly understand the sentiment expressed by many player attendees: letting the non-players in kind of removed or diluted the whole 'EvE Festival' aspect for me. smoking area: next time, put it on the other side of the entrence, so that those of us who do not partake of the cancer sticks can get in without having to run the nicotene gauntlet. Hal. edit: some of those issues, particularly party-wise, I'm sure were out of ccp's hands as they were most likely handled by the convention centre - hopefully feedback will be heading their way too.
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2011.03.30 01:23:00 - [46] First the bad.. The Round table locations.. A hallway? Come on. What is this? Grade 2? Air conditioning. Is there a law that says you can't have the AC on in the winter? The round table rooms were VERY hot and stuffy after you packed people in them. If CCP knew ahead of time how many folks were coming, they should have had a good idea of how many people were going to be there. Most of us walked around the whole event with our coats. Open some doors. Turn the AC on. I know I'm Canadian, but damn.. Even the folks from the equator were complaining about the temps. Smokers, outside the entrance. Seriously. WTF. EVE Store. Half the products weren't there. And having prices in ISK instead of in USD like normal? I did the conversion to Canadian, and almost everything was MORE expensive at Fanfest then it would have been with the conversion via the EVE store. I WAS going to buy a set of the ship models, but they would have been almost 20% more and that was even including what it would have cost me to ship them home from the Online EVE store. And WTF was with the Tax exempt receipts? I didn't learn about these until my last day in Iceland when my wife bought ** from the local mall. I could have gotten 15% of the taxes BACK if I'd been given the right receipt. This cost me almost 75$. CCP, WTF. I mean, I know a FEW of the attendee's were from Iceland, but come on. Err on the side of caution. EVERY person buying something from the store at Fanfest should have gotten a Tax Exempt Receipt. EVERY store she shopped at at the local mall AUTOMATICALLY gave her these receipts when they realized she didn't speak Icelandic. Why couldn't I buy cases of Quafe? I know it woulda been a *** to haul around, but STILL. Event Schedule. Apparently this was better then the year before, and if so, then DAMN... Why would you have ANYTHING planed opposite the keynotes, and CCP presents and so on. Several times I had to choose between events pertaining to PVP. Large Scale PVP at the same time as Incursions? Worm hole space at the same time as the opening Ceremonies.... and so on. I understand you guys "party hard" so couldn't get up and going before noon, but I didn't expect to miss half the events due to scheduling? Maybe next year you should NOT have 6 separate events going on at once. Maybe cut it down to 3 smaller ones at a time, and keep the BIG stuff so they're on their own. If we have to stretch fanfest out to a week, it probably wouldn't be a BAD thing. Hell, I'd be VERY happy. Food... the selection was good. The Pizza sucked. It was old. Cold. And Stale, and WAY too damned expensive. When I can buy a large pizza not 500meters from the convention center, for the price of 2 slices, it's just a money grab. And I know the devs have to keep tight lipped on things, but answers more then "Can't do that for XXX" "Hmm, Nice idea." "want to, but..." I'd have liked to hear more "That's what we thought, and it's coming ...." And the partner plugs. Folks have went on about it. I'm glad you guys are partnered with nVidia and IBM and everyone else, but keep that stuff to the Sponsor showcase. That's what it's FOR. The info from them was good, but keep it all on one area. VOLUME... The Presentations were either too loud, or too quiet. Round tables too quiet, anything in the larger rooms too loud. "Party on the top of the world!" I'm partially deaf in one ear, and it was STILL way too loud. I LIKE loud music. I LIKE chest thumping base. but when I can't talk to my wife who's in my arms and my lips are 2 inches from her ear, it's too loud. Seating.. OMG who ate the chairs. There was no seating in the event. Price of alcohol.. I know you guys import most of it, but WTF. 1000 Kronar per drink? 500 for a soft drink? I know most folks who play eve will like Trance/Techno, but not for a whole night. Now the good. The atmosphere was very cool. The whole gallente them was cool. The setup of 3 screens in Tranquility room was nice. outta room.
Cors It's A Trap	Posted - 2011.03.30 01:32:00 - [47] Edited by: Cors on 30/03/2011 01:32:13 Now the good. The atmosphere was very cool. The whole gallente theme was cool. The setup of 3 screens in Tranquility room was nice. Every dev/CCP employee I dealt with was cheerful and upbeat and enjoyable to be around. I like that you guys are an irreverent company, and the videos are cool and all, but remember. EVE players. Short attention span. If it takes more then 30 seconds to get into something.. oohh shiney... a you tube video about a monster truck doing a back flip... Golden Circle and SOE. Wife was VERY happy about these. Great deals. Needed more though...Fan fest, 3 days after all. SAW LOTS of CCP employee's around. At my hotel(The Grand) on the Golden Circle tour, at the event itself, at the after party.. Nice to see CCPers mixing with us common folk.
Kyoko Sakoda Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.30 03:09:00 - [48] I'm not much of a forums guy these days so I added my comments to the official survey. Problems aside though, I had the best time of my life yet! ___ Latest video: Future Proof (720p) 2D Animator
Ander Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.03.30 04:34:00 - [49] Agree on most part with the positive feedback. Nothing to add here except that I learnt from personal experience from fanfest 2009 not to be drunk as a skunk the first day. The negative parts: - The long queues in eve shop. Was told to come back on several occasions for my tax receipt. When I got back on last day the queues were gone but they closed up shops really early. Only 3000ISK lost on taxes I couldnt get back but still stank to be turned away in door at 14.30 on saturday after having been told to come back several times. - The music was way too loud. The base wasn't nice and hade a nasty screetch to it. Seriously, whoever was the sound technician should be put on public ridicule. - The drug dealer that scoured around FF at the big party. I'm well of how different peoples opinion are different on the morality of the use or not use of drugs and won't go into that discussion. But getting asked if I want "coke", "weed", "extacy" wasn't that much entertaining. The drug dealer was pretty small and skimpy, his "goon" friend was a little bigger. Did however enjoy trolling him and tell him he should be more careful of who he asks about getting to sell drugs. (Showed him my work ID which is to say.. very "official like"). The guy panicked and explained he was only doing it to survive in this harsh icelandic economy.. then skimpered off into the crowd of people to find someone else to sell to. - Security guards that didnt let people with fanfest tickets in at around 00.00 GMT sucked big time. They let too many "random" scrubs in which made it impossible for some real attendees to be allowed in. - No beer tickets for the normal people? wtf! Oh well at least we got the authenticator thingy instead. Can't think of much more. EVE PIRATE BattleDB.com
Shae Tiann Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.30 04:45:00 - [50] Lac's summed up my feelings on it pretty well, not much more to add, personally. I will say the "Women in EVE" round table was pretty meh. It's a tired subject and all those questions have been asked before; it didn't help then and it wasn't particularly enlightening now. If you want to get more than just the same old answers, you're going to have to set aside more than one hour and get someone to moderate it properly. Originally by: Jovan Geldon Also, @ Veto Corp members; Who was that dark-haired beauty in the Guristas uniform with Verone? If that's his girlfriend, he's batting WELL above his average Well he certainly wasn't renting me for the night! --------------------------------- Sweet Little Bad Girl
Violettt Albatross Corp.	Posted - 2011.03.30 05:32:00 - [51] Originally by: Lacrimae Less NPCs at the final party! The amount of people let in made it suddenly feel like us geeks were on display and just kind of tolerated, instead of this being a party to celebrate the end of an awesome Fanfest. I miss the days of it being all about celebrating EVE and with EVE related things throughout the night, instead of the teenage tan-fest it turned into. NO! just no. I honestly didn't go this year because I didn't have the iskies, but it was the same last year and was my favorite part in the entirety of Fanfest... what's not to love? Fellow EVE players to party with, Icelandic locals to mingle with, and more or less hot girls. I plan on going again some year when I can afford it, but if they make the ending party exclusive to fanfest attendees I'll be sorely disappointed.
Alissa Solette	Posted - 2011.03.30 07:59:00 - [52] What disturbed me most was this "scripted" feeling to all the events... such as when Zulu wanted people to shout "** yeah" three times... I think that tradition started when Hilmar gave us the new graphics engine (trinity) and people spontaneously broke out in cheers and "** yeahs". But if you need your (dismal) marketing scrub to force this kind of response from the crowd then it just becomes cheap, hollow and frankly a bit sickening. That kind of crap might impress 15 year old wow players... most of the eve players I talked to... well, not so much. If you want euphoric cheering then maybe give us something that's worthy of cheers?
Lacrimae Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.03.30 08:20:00 - [53] Originally by: Violettt Originally by: Lacrimae Less NPCs at the final party! The amount of people let in made it suddenly feel like us geeks were on display and just kind of tolerated, instead of this being a party to celebrate the end of an awesome Fanfest. I miss the days of it being all about celebrating EVE and with EVE related things throughout the night, instead of the teenage tan-fest it turned into. NO! just no. I honestly didn't go this year because I didn't have the iskies, but it was the same last year and was my favorite part in the entirety of Fanfest... what's not to love? Fellow EVE players to party with, Icelandic locals to mingle with, and more or less hot girls. I plan on going again some year when I can afford it, but if they make the ending party exclusive to fanfest attendees I'll be sorely disappointed. I'm not saying to not let anyone else in; I'm saying to cut down the number of them, as they literally took over, caused problems, diluted the "EVE" feeling and so many people were let in that FF attendees had trouble getting back in after going outside for some fresh air.
Noun Verber Gallente	Posted - 2011.03.30 08:26:00 - [54] Originally by: xestria The "Good idea but no resource" was particularly evident in the PVE roundtable, which was quite frustrating to listen to. That is a new name for the beast previously known as :18months:. The CSM managed to get a team to work on small fixs, but big ones are out of action until after the full incarna launch. __________ A note on voting for CSM 6: Do not vote for someone just because they named issues that you support, instead try to gauge the thinking behind them and try to vote for someone who w
Space Wanderer	Posted - 2011.03.30 08:46:00 - [55] Originally by: Lacrimae so many people were let in that FF attendees had trouble getting back in after going outside for some fresh air. While I disagree with cutting down the number of ladies inside, what you just said above is a good point. There's no way that FF attendees or SOE should not be allowed back inside at any time. After all, we paid for the privilege. CCP should seriously fix this issue.
Skippermonkey Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2011.03.30 11:13:00 - [56] while i thought in general the fangfest was awesome, some of the 'round tables' were kind of pointless. The 'what makes good people bad players' table was awkward and felt like an attempt for this university guy to sell us his book about research he did in 2009. The funniest part of that table was when he opened up for questions was from somebosy asking "Werent you supposed to interview me?", cue more awkwardness. The t1 frigate round table was just some dude from Battleclinic giving us stats about ship losses posted on their website and felt like a waste of time. I'm sure i think a guy from veto just up and left after having a good question of his kinda of ignored and also because there was nothing of merit being talked about. I also heard that there was no DEV to head the discussion at the Faction Warfare round table because that person got double booked. I kind of laughed at that because it sums up their (percieved) attitude to FW. Maybe the whole point of these tables was to let the subscribers feel involved with the game without really changing anything, or even just filler for the fanfest itself. That said, the main events presented in the big hall were great. I GOT SCAMMED BY DEVS ON THE PUBCRAWL where was the hßkarl?
Svetlana Scarlet Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2011.03.31 17:37:00 - [57] Have to agree with all of the sentiment from Lacrimae; my biggest problem with the party was that the vast number of non-Eve players turned the whole thing from a party with other Eve players to a party it felt like we were barely tolerated at. I spent most of the time outside the main room, up in the cafeteria area, just talking to people, because that's what I come to FanFest for -- not to squeeze myself into a room with 2000 kids that think I'm a freak for playing computer games. I can understand why CCP wants to throw a party where they can bring in some of the locals, and I admit that it would be nice if FanFest wasn't such a sausage fest, but I'd rather hang out with 1000 guys and put up with some clumsy but good-natured advances than the kind of palpable disdain that I felt from a lot of the outsiders. Honestly, I'd be happy if there was an alternate party for Eve players where we could just hang out and talk with some drinks and without overpoweringly loud music. That's really what I go to FanFest for more than anything. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Saint Lazarus Pwn 'N Play Chaos Theory Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.31 17:54:00 - [58] Originally by: Space Wanderer Originally by: Lacrimae so many people were let in that FF attendees had trouble getting back in after going outside for some fresh air. While I disagree with cutting down the number of ladies inside, what you just said above is a good point. There's no way that FF attendees or SOE should not be allowed back inside at any time. After all, we paid for the privilege. CCP should seriously fix this issue. I said to someone they should open another door and just let EVE players back in that way and the NPC's can come in another door. No idea if they listened to me or just common sense hit them in the face but at one point there was another door EVE'rs could come back inside so it was much less of an issue. Remember that for next time and dont wait till it becomes such a problem. Also you cant select Ireland as country of origin in the survey. Fail. ----------------- My EvE Comic
Legolas Greenleaf	Posted - 2011.03.31 19:46:00 - [59] Originally by: Shae Tiann Originally by: Jovan Geldon Also, @ Veto Corp members; Who was that dark-haired beauty in the Guristas uniform with Verone? If that's his girlfriend, he's batting WELL above his average Well he certainly wasn't renting me for the night! I'll take your word for it
Anaplian Laine	Posted - 2011.04.01 23:08:00 - [60] Fanfest awesome. All was good, great people most of all. Lots to do, food was o...k... Party was dire, hot boys and girls yes, but did they give a hoot about us ...no... Many of us had our coats stolen and I got kicked by some local big meat head for no reason..erf Solution to party, tickets. At one point, a friend and I couldn't actually see any eve people dancing, all locals, who obviously thought we were nothing but a a bunch of geeks!

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