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Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:29:00 - [1] Server downtime is really destroying my experience with Eve. It currently occupies over half of the time that I have available to play. Firstly, during Beta the server downtime was at a differnt time of day. Had I known that the downtime was going to move smack bang into the middle of my "prime time" after launch I would probably have never bought the game. Secondly the server downtime is usually at least an hour and a half, I have never seen it take only an hour as advertised and I don't know why they persist with this blatant lie. Then to add insult to injury they have these extra extended downtimes which usually mean I can't log in at all for that entire evening. I usually get home from work at about 7:30pm (9:30GMT), after cooking and eating dinner I am usually ready to start playing at about 8:30pm (10:30GMT) but due to the nature of Eve it is pretty much impossible to get anything worthwhile done inside half an hour so it's not worth logging in. So I wait till after downtime which is usually around 10:30pm (12:30GMT) then I get to play for about an hour and a half before I have to go to bed so I can get up at 6:30AM to go to work. So that means that during the 3&1/2 hours when I can play Eve (10:30->2:00GMT) I get to play for 1&1/2 hours and only cos I am burning the midnight oil to do so. In fact last week I was so tired and fed up that I didn't play for a whole week cos I needed to sleep. I wish they would reduce or eliminate the need for downtime, I have never heard of a MMORPG that requires over an hour of downtime every single day. At the very least they could rotate the time of day that it is done so that it's not just one group of players who are constantly affected by it. Very grumpy >:(
Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:29:00 - [2] Server downtime is really destroying my experience with Eve. It currently occupies over half of the time that I have available to play. Firstly, during Beta the server downtime was at a differnt time of day. Had I known that the downtime was going to move smack bang into the middle of my "prime time" after launch I would probably have never bought the game. Secondly the server downtime is usually at least an hour and a half, I have never seen it take only an hour as advertised and I don't know why they persist with this blatant lie. Then to add insult to injury they have these extra extended downtimes which usually mean I can't log in at all for that entire evening. I usually get home from work at about 7:30pm (9:30GMT), after cooking and eating dinner I am usually ready to start playing at about 8:30pm (10:30GMT) but due to the nature of Eve it is pretty much impossible to get anything worthwhile done inside half an hour so it's not worth logging in. So I wait till after downtime which is usually around 10:30pm (12:30GMT) then I get to play for about an hour and a half before I have to go to bed so I can get up at 6:30AM to go to work. So that means that during the 3&1/2 hours when I can play Eve (10:30->2:00GMT) I get to play for 1&1/2 hours and only cos I am burning the midnight oil to do so. In fact last week I was so tired and fed up that I didn't play for a whole week cos I needed to sleep. I wish they would reduce or eliminate the need for downtime, I have never heard of a MMORPG that requires over an hour of downtime every single day. At the very least they could rotate the time of day that it is done so that it's not just one group of players who are constantly affected by it. Very grumpy >:(
Molly	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:35:00 - [3] Lovly addict :-). The extended server downtime gave me the opportunity to buy: - 2 bins of mineral water, - pound of cherries, - chives, - eggs, - 1/4 water melon, - 5 x 20 kg cat litter, - 96 cans of cat food. Which means I can roughly play 3 months in a row now. Cats got to eat and I am using liquid fertiliser. Got work CCP. You saved my day! And now no downtimes for the next 3 months please. Scnr. Edited by: Molly on 01/07/2003 13:35:05 --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Salgurdar	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:35:00 - [4] Looks to me like you're in the same timezone as I am. And I agree, the dowtime is highly annoying. But, in my experience it's rarely longer than 1 hour 15 minutes,a nd I've experienced a number of times where it was an hour, even a few where it was less than an hour. Get yourself the eve status program that resides in your systray, available from EVE-I.com. It can give and audible warning as to when the server has come back online, giving you a better chance of getting more time in the game. You'll find that in most cases the server is back up ontime, and CCP generally give a warning of extended downtime. "We all know what we are, we're just haggling about the price" - W.C. Fields Rolschau > anyway... because some jerk today... (it is soon 5 am) will turn on the smoke alarm all over the place and then go inside our room to check.. then I will stay up and not get a shock while sleeping and die.... I will be playing eve untill the jerk shows up
Temerlyn	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:35:00 - [5] Us aussies always get the blunt end of the stick.
Molly Gallente Doomheim	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:35:00 - [6] Lovly addict :-). The extended server downtime gave me the opportunity to buy: - 2 bins of mineral water, - pound of cherries, - chives, - eggs, - 1/4 water melon, - 5 x 20 kg cat litter, - 96 cans of cat food. Which means I can roughly play 3 months in a row now. Cats got to eat and I am using liquid fertiliser. Got work CCP. You saved my day! And now no downtimes for the next 3 months please. Scnr. Edited by: Molly on 01/07/2003 13:35:05 --- "Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships"
Temerlyn Minmatar STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:35:00 - [7] Us aussies always get the blunt end of the stick.
Salgurdar Amarr STK Scientific	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:35:00 - [8] Looks to me like you're in the same timezone as I am. And I agree, the dowtime is highly annoying. But, in my experience it's rarely longer than 1 hour 15 minutes,a nd I've experienced a number of times where it was an hour, even a few where it was less than an hour. Get yourself the eve status program that resides in your systray, available from EVE-I.com. It can give and audible warning as to when the server has come back online, giving you a better chance of getting more time in the game. You'll find that in most cases the server is back up ontime, and CCP generally give a warning of extended downtime. Peace, Love, Yarrrrrr
Cara 'Than	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:40:00 - [9] Well fact is you can't satisfie everyone... if you set downtime to 15:00 or 16:00 other ppl will cry. Fact is that 11:00 is right in the middle of working day in iceland and therefore the right time for maintenence since it has to be done at some time. And it seems as if staff has to be around the servers. __________________ "Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering."
Cara 'Than Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:40:00 - [10] Well fact is you can't satisfie everyone... if you set downtime to 15:00 or 16:00 other ppl will cry. Fact is that 11:00 is right in the middle of working day in iceland and therefore the right time for maintenence since it has to be done at some time. And it seems as if staff has to be around the servers. __________________ "Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to suffering."
Chee	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:44:00 - [11] the downtime cant be helped, but they can and MUST improve their time schedules, they are always late, never say a word about it. Its not enough to succeed. Others must fail.
Chee Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:44:00 - [12] the downtime cant be helped, but they can and MUST improve their time schedules, they are always late, never say a word about it. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:45:00 - [13] I don't expect them to put it right in the middle of US or EU prime time and I appreciate that they would want to do it during CCP office hours. But at the very least they could vary it from between 10:00GMT to 16:00GMT so that I could have a downtime free night sometimes. Edited by: Vidamus on 01/07/2003 13:45:55
Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:45:00 - [14] I don't expect them to put it right in the middle of US or EU prime time and I appreciate that they would want to do it during CCP office hours. But at the very least they could vary it from between 10:00GMT to 16:00GMT so that I could have a downtime free night sometimes. Edited by: Vidamus on 01/07/2003 13:45:55
Belch	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:49:00 - [15] downtime will always hurt a particular timezone. GET OVER IT
Belch	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:49:00 - [16] downtime will always hurt a particular timezone. GET OVER IT
Schola	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:52:00 - [17] Fine, it always affects someone. but NOT 1 hour EVERY DAY. not hard to move that forward a few hours and back a few hours. STK Scientific Vae, puto Deus Fio!
Schola Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:52:00 - [18] Fine, it always affects someone. but NOT 1 hour EVERY DAY. not hard to move that forward a few hours and back a few hours. STK Scientific Vae, puto Deus Fio!
Killgorde	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:54:00 - [19] ôScheduled downtime for Tranquility is 11:00 û 12:00 GMT each dayö Eve has now, by my reckoning, been running 56 days (8 weeks). Could someone please tell me on how many of those 56 days you were able to log back into game at 12:00 GMT and start playing? And by playing I do mean being able to log into your char and not wait 497 seconds for start-up. Obviously aside from days like today when there are issues to be resolved. Once? Twice? Ever? Please CCP, donÆt state something you categorically cannot abide by. Rather put: ôScheduled downtime is from 11:00 GMT till we get back from the pub sometime after noon.ö (IÆll settle for ô11:00 GMT till some time after noon.ö) Its called ôbeing honest with your paying customers.ö Killgorde CEO - Cutting Edge Incorporated "I thought I saw a light at the end of the tunnel but it turned out to be some bastard with a torch in one hand and a ****load more work for me in the other"
Killgorde Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:54:00 - [20] ôScheduled downtime for Tranquility is 11:00 û 12:00 GMT each dayö Eve has now, by my reckoning, been running 56 days (8 weeks). Could someone please tell me on how many of those 56 days you were able to log back into game at 12:00 GMT and start playing? And by playing I do mean being able to log into your char and not wait 497 seconds for start-up. Obviously aside from days like today when there are issues to be resolved. Once? Twice? Ever? Please CCP, donÆt state something you categorically cannot abide by. Rather put: ôScheduled downtime is from 11:00 GMT till we get back from the pub sometime after noon.ö (IÆll settle for ô11:00 GMT till some time after noon.ö) Its called ôbeing honest with your paying customers.ö --- Killgorde CEO - Cutting Edge Incorporated
DarK	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:56:00 - [21] Doesnt affect you at all Belch, so everyone should stop complaining right?
DarK STK Scientific	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:56:00 - [22] Doesnt affect you at all Belch, so everyone should stop complaining right?
Nova Star	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:57:00 - [23] ... Extended downtime 1st July 10:00-13:30 GMT We had to extend the downtime more than anticipated. This was in part because more time was spent on taking backups of all persistent data, both to eliminate all chance of data loss during the database maintenance and in preparation to move a new backup to the Test server as part of patch preparations. ... Heh, they were late even from that schedule :) --- Director of Ni --- Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!
Nova Star Gallente Rosa Alba Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:57:00 - [24] ... Extended downtime 1st July 10:00-13:30 GMT We had to extend the downtime more than anticipated. This was in part because more time was spent on taking backups of all persistent data, both to eliminate all chance of data loss during the database maintenance and in preparation to move a new backup to the Test server as part of patch preparations. ... Heh, they were late even from that schedule :) CEO of Gurgleblaster Industries Gurglin' Through the Galaxy!
straiph	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:59:00 - [25] YES! i agree! this getting to be a bit much! Some players (ALL) plan their day around the downtime ie try to get online at noon eve time. To put it another way, CCP just F***ed off their entire customer base!
straiph	Posted - 2003.07.01 13:59:00 - [26] YES! i agree! this getting to be a bit much! Some players (ALL) plan their day around the downtime ie try to get online at noon eve time. To put it another way, CCP just F***ed off their entire customer base!
Saturn	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:03:00 - [27] Currently at CCP (maybe) -NewDev> hey whats this button do? -OldDev> dont push that fool, ahhhh.. it burns!! ahhhhhh.. the players are going to kill us! -MarketingDev> No problem. We can say the Jove did it! -MaintDev> Damn, we got to move that button out of the restroom. _________ "Our inmates are dedicated to producing the best license plates for your ships." -Saturn, Warden and CEO of Prison Corp
Saturn Amarr Prison Corp	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:03:00 - [28] Currently at CCP (maybe) -NewDev> hey whats this button do? -OldDev> dont push that fool, ahhhh.. it burns!! ahhhhhh.. the players are going to kill us! -MarketingDev> No problem. We can say the Jove did it! -MaintDev> Damn, we got to move that button out of the restroom. _________ "Our inmates are dedicated to producing the best license plates for your ships." -Saturn, Warden and CEO of Prison Corp
Schola	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:04:00 - [29] ROFL STK Scientific Vae, puto Deus Fio!
Schola Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:04:00 - [30] ROFL STK Scientific Vae, puto Deus Fio!
Trent Icarus	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:12:00 - [31] Some players (ALL) plan their day around the downtime ie try to get online at noon eve time. To put it another way, CCP just F***ed off their entire customer base! Very broad statement. 90% of the customer base is sleeping,working, or taking a midafternoon dump during the down time.
Trent Icarus	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:12:00 - [32] Some players (ALL) plan their day around the downtime ie try to get online at noon eve time. To put it another way, CCP just F***ed off their entire customer base! Very broad statement. 90% of the customer base is sleeping,working, or taking a midafternoon dump during the down time.
Dobby	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:21:00 - [33] Well, darn. Are we running out of things to complain about? You must be one of those people who whines about having to stand in line at the grocery store. If you have ever worked in a corporate environment, you would know that nothing is ever done when it is supposed to be and complaining about only makes things take longer. My advice to everyone is that if they don't want to put up with it, to just move on to a nice single player game and quit complaining. Running a huge game like this is very complicated and even with the best team things go wrong, slip through the *****s and take time to fix. It is a fact of life and that is just the way it is. Complaining about it will not change one thing. My 2 cents -Dobby
Dobby	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:21:00 - [34] Well, darn. Are we running out of things to complain about? You must be one of those people who whines about having to stand in line at the grocery store. If you have ever worked in a corporate environment, you would know that nothing is ever done when it is supposed to be and complaining about only makes things take longer. My advice to everyone is that if they don't want to put up with it, to just move on to a nice single player game and quit complaining. Running a huge game like this is very complicated and even with the best team things go wrong, slip through the *****s and take time to fix. It is a fact of life and that is just the way it is. Complaining about it will not change one thing. My 2 cents -Dobby
ShadowStrike	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:43:00 - [35] Down time is something that must occur to maintain this type of a game. I think we all have become spoiled with the past games, and that multiple servers have been available to log into incase our main playing server went down. Factor in that past games have also had servers in different regions, allowing for more regionally suitable downtimes. Eve however is different. There is main server "Tranquility", which in its self is a network of about 55 servers. The servers are based out of London, despite CCP being located in Iceland. When this server cluster goes down, everyone goes down. 1100 GMT is actually the best time to bring the servers down, since the majority of the player base (North America and Europe) is not online at the moment (or even awake in my case). The problem that most people face is that they live in a time zone that just happens to have the downtime right in the middle of their main playing time. This is unfortunate however it is unavoidable. With a game that is played globally, someone will always get screwed on the time zone issue of the down time. With better equipment downtime could be reduced to near nothing (99.99999% availability) however that would come out of the money that CCP does not have. The only resolution is to suck it up and bear it. Or quità your choice. Personally I donÆt care if you quit, that just leaves more Arknor for me =) You currently have 157 skills and 26,183,909 Brain cells
ShadowStrike Shadow Tech Industries	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:43:00 - [36] Down time is something that must occur to maintain this type of a game. I think we all have become spoiled with the past games, and that multiple servers have been available to log into incase our main playing server went down. Factor in that past games have also had servers in different regions, allowing for more regionally suitable downtimes. Eve however is different. There is main server "Tranquility", which in its self is a network of about 55 servers. The servers are based out of London, despite CCP being located in Iceland. When this server cluster goes down, everyone goes down. 1100 GMT is actually the best time to bring the servers down, since the majority of the player base (North America and Europe) is not online at the moment (or even awake in my case). The problem that most people face is that they live in a time zone that just happens to have the downtime right in the middle of their main playing time. This is unfortunate however it is unavoidable. With a game that is played globally, someone will always get screwed on the time zone issue of the down time. With better equipment downtime could be reduced to near nothing (99.99999% availability) however that would come out of the money that CCP does not have. The only resolution is to suck it up and bear it. Or quità your choice. Personally I donÆt care if you quit, that just leaves more Arknor for me =) click on sig or check bio for details
Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:50:00 - [37] Dobby I am assuming that half of all of your Eve game time is not spent waiting for server up otherwise I am sure you would be a little more sympathetic. Leaving Eve for greener pastures is something that has crossed my mind but it's something I really don't want to do. I REALLY WANT to play Eve. But I am increasingly finding it hard to justify spending $20-25AUD (almost as much as I spend on my net connection) per month when the server is always down when I want to play. But this is not an "I'm going to quit" post, I'm just really frustrated. As I said before, had I known about this before release I would probably have never bought the game.
Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:50:00 - [38] Dobby I am assuming that half of all of your Eve game time is not spent waiting for server up otherwise I am sure you would be a little more sympathetic. Leaving Eve for greener pastures is something that has crossed my mind but it's something I really don't want to do. I REALLY WANT to play Eve. But I am increasingly finding it hard to justify spending $20-25AUD (almost as much as I spend on my net connection) per month when the server is always down when I want to play. But this is not an "I'm going to quit" post, I'm just really frustrated. As I said before, had I known about this before release I would probably have never bought the game.
Drefsab	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:57:00 - [39] Its a simple case of numbers, the servers go offline at what is typically the time when the least players are online. Sure it will affect people in certain time zones but these happen to be the minority in the game so ccp wont change things to please you while upsetting the majority of their playerbase. I know it sucks, but bear with it.. Im almost 99% sure there was a mention during the beta that downtimes will eventually be done away with if possable. "Death Before Dishonor"
Sunda	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:57:00 - [40] The idea that a game like this needs to have down time is a bunch of BS. I have played most other mmorpgs out there and most do not have down time every single day. You have down time every single day in this game due to ccp's inability to program a precentence state and dynamic world. They have to reset the server every day to refresh the supply and demand for trade goods. I find it very inadequate that in the 3+ years this game was in development that they couldn't program and random and continuos reseeding of trade good supply and demand.
Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:57:00 - [41] Shadowstrike, as I said before I don't expect them to put downtime anywhere near the EU or US prime times but at the very least they could rotate it around a few hours before and after the current time slot to give at least a small amount of relief to us Aussies. Having it rigidly occur at the same time every day is just a killer.
Drefsab Caldari The Cursed Navy	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:57:00 - [42] Its a simple case of numbers, the servers go offline at what is typically the time when the least players are online. Sure it will affect people in certain time zones but these happen to be the minority in the game so ccp wont change things to please you while upsetting the majority of their playerbase. I know it sucks, but bear with it.. Im almost 99% sure there was a mention during the beta that downtimes will eventually be done away with if possable. "Death Before Dishonor"
Sunda	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:57:00 - [43] The idea that a game like this needs to have down time is a bunch of BS. I have played most other mmorpgs out there and most do not have down time every single day. You have down time every single day in this game due to ccp's inability to program a precentence state and dynamic world. They have to reset the server every day to refresh the supply and demand for trade goods. I find it very inadequate that in the 3+ years this game was in development that they couldn't program and random and continuos reseeding of trade good supply and demand.
Vidamus	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:57:00 - [44] Shadowstrike, as I said before I don't expect them to put downtime anywhere near the EU or US prime times but at the very least they could rotate it around a few hours before and after the current time slot to give at least a small amount of relief to us Aussies. Having it rigidly occur at the same time every day is just a killer.
Dobby	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:58:00 - [45] I'm sure after they get things running smoothly the downtime will go to once a week or once a month. They will eventually run out of things to do. -Dobby
Dobby	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:58:00 - [46] I'm sure after they get things running smoothly the downtime will go to once a week or once a month. They will eventually run out of things to do. -Dobby
Sunda	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:59:00 - [47] double post Edited by: Sunda on 01/07/2003 15:00:34
Sunda	Posted - 2003.07.01 14:59:00 - [48] double post Edited by: Sunda on 01/07/2003 15:00:34
Ralimenua	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:13:00 - [49] Your sneering remarks about CCP's coding abilities notwithstanding, Sunda, there are some advantages to making that programming choice. The devs' posts have already discussed the extent to which they're eliminating jobs from the downtime and moving them to dynamic state changes. I would much rather see the current situation - where there are known tasks that need to be performed daily, but which are gradually being refactored to take place over the course of a game day, reducing the duration of daily downtime, and maybe one day eliminating it entirely. It's a better state of affairs than other MMORPGs that claim monthly uptime but suffer all-encompassing crashes, complete chat server failures, and 48-hour stints of unplayability at downtime (coughAC2cough). Back to the topic though - I agree; varying the downtime through the day would be a good thing for Aussies and Kiwis, but on the other hand, having a known downtime date/time is good for planning production and research run times around RL garbage like going to work for people on EST, for example. --------------=o0O+O0o=-------------- Grand Vizier and General Factotum Hazara Khan's Haphazard Bazaar The Finest Camels in all EVE! O0o=------------------+------------------=o0O
Ralimenua Hazara Khan's Haphazard Bazaar	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:13:00 - [50] Your sneering remarks about CCP's coding abilities notwithstanding, Sunda, there are some advantages to making that programming choice. The devs' posts have already discussed the extent to which they're eliminating jobs from the downtime and moving them to dynamic state changes. I would much rather see the current situation - where there are known tasks that need to be performed daily, but which are gradually being refactored to take place over the course of a game day, reducing the duration of daily downtime, and maybe one day eliminating it entirely. It's a better state of affairs than other MMORPGs that claim monthly uptime but suffer all-encompassing crashes, complete chat server failures, and 48-hour stints of unplayability at downtime (coughAC2cough). Back to the topic though - I agree; varying the downtime through the day would be a good thing for Aussies and Kiwis, but on the other hand, having a known downtime date/time is good for planning production and research run times around RL garbage like going to work for people on EST, for example. --------------=o0O+O0o=-------------- Grand Vizier and General Factotum Hazara Khan's Haphazard Bazaar The Finest Camels in all EVE! O0o=------------------+------------------=o0O
Ghelp	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:18:00 - [51] If you look at server stats, when they do do the update, the server stats are on the rise from the peek low point. In other words the population hits it's lowest point about 1 hour before they shut down for maintanence and is already starting to get more people on it when they do shut down.
Ghelp Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:18:00 - [52] If you look at server stats, when they do do the update, the server stats are on the rise from the peek low point. In other words the population hits it's lowest point about 1 hour before they shut down for maintanence and is already starting to get more people on it when they do shut down.
Bolka	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:21:00 - [53] "I agree; varying the downtime through the day would be a good thing for Aussies and Kiwis, but on the other hand, having a known downtime date/time is good for planning production and research run times around RL garbage like going to work for people on EST, for example." I agree with the principle, but I don't feel we currently have a known downtime.
Bolka Caldari	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:21:00 - [54] "I agree; varying the downtime through the day would be a good thing for Aussies and Kiwis, but on the other hand, having a known downtime date/time is good for planning production and research run times around RL garbage like going to work for people on EST, for example." I agree with the principle, but I don't feel we currently have a known downtime.
BSOD	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:33:00 - [55] It's known +/- a half hour or so on each end. What I would like, in order of preference: a) No downtime. No other MMOG has it. DAoC pulls off 1-month-plus uptimes. b) Downtime moved randomly/rotated around a set of the least populated hours rather than picking one hour. c) At least nailing down the beginning and end more accurately. What I see as easiest for CCP to implement, in order from easiest to hardest: b),c),a). I see no reason not to implement option b) (Downtime rotation, with downtime schedules posted in advance, possible every Monday post the schedule for the coming week.) This way I could actually log on and start skill training before work most days, rather than having to ALWAYS start a superlong skill the night before. (I'm on the East Coast in the US - Downtime extends from 15-30 minutes before I wake up to 5 minutes after I absolutely have to leave for work.) ---------------- Blue Screen of Death CEO Exodus Enterprises
BSOD Gallente Calista Industries	Posted - 2003.07.01 15:33:00 - [56] It's known +/- a half hour or so on each end. What I would like, in order of preference: a) No downtime. No other MMOG has it. DAoC pulls off 1-month-plus uptimes. b) Downtime moved randomly/rotated around a set of the least populated hours rather than picking one hour. c) At least nailing down the beginning and end more accurately. What I see as easiest for CCP to implement, in order from easiest to hardest: b),c),a). I see no reason not to implement option b) (Downtime rotation, with downtime schedules posted in advance, possible every Monday post the schedule for the coming week.) This way I could actually log on and start skill training before work most days, rather than having to ALWAYS start a superlong skill the night before. (I'm on the East Coast in the US - Downtime extends from 15-30 minutes before I wake up to 5 minutes after I absolutely have to leave for work.) ---------------- Blue Screen of Death CEO Exodus Enterprises
Awox Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.05.18 06:57:00 - [57] Aussies are still getting stuck with this crappy down-time. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't every day of the week. - BOOST OUTLAWS (-10.0 and proud of it)
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:09:00 - [58] Considering eve is worldwide, you can't make every tz happy in that regard . It makes sense for them to do it when they are at work and not at silly o clock in the morning in iceland. BoB vs the coalition of family values
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:11:00 - [59] Now people are even NECROING this stuff.... ffs, leave it alone! --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
Vana Gank Gallente Kebabtossers	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:11:00 - [60] Jeez, 3'rd NECRO Get a grip ... -------------------------- Please adjust the map, please. Im not clever enough to figure out which way to fly.
Miki Fin Gallente Independant Union of Rangers	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:13:00 - [61] Originally by: Awox Aussies are still getting stuck with this crappy down-time. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't every day of the week. Do you have this fetish about raising posts from the dead?
Chrysalis D'lilth	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:14:00 - [62] One necro'd post can be worth a smirk, but another... is just silly, cut it out.
Gojyu	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:16:00 - [63] Edited by: Gojyu on 18/05/2007 07:14:33 Bah, had a post, then I realised it was necro'd. :(
Teinyhr Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:22:00 - [64] Originally by: fire 59 Edited by: fire 59 on 18/05/2007 07:13:20 Considering eve is worldwide, you can't make every tz happy in that regard . It makes sense for them to do it when they are at work and not at silly o clock in the morning in iceland. edit - ffs, didn't notice it was a necro Ha! I just found a solution for macrominer/sweatshopper -problems! The DT should be moved to the time of day when the chinese/korean ppl get the shaft! Do I get a medal now? ------------------- Originally by: Smagd Besides, specialization is for insects.

Rauth Kivaro Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.05.18 07:26:00 - [65] Necroposting bad. Locking this thread. clicky forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website


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