I see that people are still stomping at the wrong reasons as to why high-sec dwellers will never go to low- or nullsec

I still say that you can rebalance high/low/null-sec income until the world ends, it'd still do absolutely nothing to improve the situation.

Because it leads to power creep.

Nerfs are often far better a tool to fix imbalances than buffs.

Anyway, there's not much to be scared about in that proposal.

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Agree, without thinking to hard on it, cuz I'm drunk and i hate thinking, you can build supers in null, sweet! i want that go there, there is no difference in what you can build in low vs high. T2 only built in low? No then my precious absos and astartes would cost like 500 mil at least. ok so some other processes/ research/ reactions that can only be done in low? Drat that still makes all my t2 hulls cost a ton...meh don't care, more business clearing towers and more wardec contracts. I'm in.

Instead Of nerfing High sec why not just improve the other sec? need an alien brain to think ?

Increase the refine yield in POS , in station in low en Null sec , Put some natural phenomenas .. like making the astroids more friable in Low sec or null sec or W-space more friable === more yield

and remove ability to set pos in High sec ... or increase the drawbacks ( more fuel to use in High sec or less in low /null W-space.

too much ways i stop here!!

Highsec desperately needs to be nerfed, while lowsec and nullsec should be buffed. That's just common sense.

Nerf everything I say. How about turning concord off for a week, let's see what'll happen then. Or vice versa, Concord everywhere. Let's go bonkers.

I really don't understand why CCP has a priority to force people out of high sec.

Prices in high-sec go up, prices overall go up?

Meaning, I don't think it will make a difference unless the economic and industrial advantages are worth the loss of ships and cargo to piracy. (edit: Assuming they tweak the stations/costs to encourage people to use the "better"low-sec stations.)


edit: Although the losing FW == increased taxes is not a bad idea, IMO.

Which changes has CCP made to "force people out of hisec"?

Now, a hisec representative would probably just end up going "well, nerf JFs, that way it'll be less effort to build it in nullsec", and he'd still probably miss out on the whole issue with deklein having less industrial capacity than a fair bit of the hisec systems in the game as it is, or he'd go "hurr durr put up POSes to expand your industrial capacity", completely ignoring the fact that POS-based manufacturing is a cockstab of epic proportions (and I commend the WH guys for putting up with it, but I don't think they have that much choice), it's a huge security risk for everyone involved, it's a drain on isotopes (which, again, must come from somewhere), etc etc etc.

Its not about FORCING people out, its the fact theres not enough fun and profitable things to do outside of high sec, they are not dangling enough "reward" for the perceived risk to entice the 100,000's in high sec to try something else!

Its not about FORCING people out, its the fact theres not enough fun and profitable things to do outside of high sec, they (ccp) are not dangling enough "reward" for the perceived risk to entice the 100,000's in high sec to try something else!

Question time: What are the incentives, right now, for anyone to go outside of hisec to do anything?

Question time: What are the incentives, right now, for anyone to go outside of hisec to do anything?

Question time: What are the incentives, right now, for anyone to go outside of hisec to do anything?

Instead Of nerfing High sec why not just improve the other sec? need an alien brain to think ?

just put a 50% tax on everything in highsec

mission rewards, bounty, trading - you name it, they tax it

i mean somebody has to pay for the concord service, this stuff isnt cheap

While they're at it they can tax the corp/alliances in 0.0 by 50% to even it up a bit.

People do still shoot people in this game, right? vOv

Better ratting, better missions, better mining, capital ships, engage in huge alliance fleet battles, less or no consequences to attacking someone (as opposed to concord/gate guns in high sec), moon mining, better PI, ME slots, i'm sure there's more.

The incentives are there, people just don't want to bother with the I can be attacked at any moment playstyle of low/null. IT is somewhat an issue of people avoiding the financial risks as well. ALso alot of newer pilots probably don't want to be forced into pvp "fights" were the other pilot has million 20sp and you've just jumped in your first battlecruiser.

just put a 50% tax on everything in highsec

While they're at it they can tax the corp/alliances in 0.0 by 50% to even it up a bit.

Is it just PVP which dissuades people from going to low/null?

No.


Why?