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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:35:00 -
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LOL @people really believing that Bin Laden was killed there.
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Deganos
Caldari
Kornova Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:40:00 -
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Only a naieve fool would think the world is a better place now. Sadly there are alot of naieve fools in our world.
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Deganos
Only a naieve fool would think the world is a better place now. Sadly there are alot of naieve fools in our world.
****! Can we get ****** back too?
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Deganos
Caldari
Kornova Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:49:00 -
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I have no idea actually how you could compare Hit ler with someone like Osama Bin laden. It was an entirely diffrent situation back then.
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Sonic Slayer
Minmatar
Guardian Heroes Inc.
Gunmen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.05.02 14:55:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Hoya en Marland
LOL @people really believing that Bin Laden was killed there.
*Sonic Slayer gives the slow clap while leaning against a bulkhead. *CLAP* ... *CLAP* ... *CLAP* ... *CLAP*
I'm sure that there will be people that will say that he is hiding out with Elvis and/or the space aliens as well. Regardless, time to shift fire and primary the new top dog while the Michael Moore's and Donald Trump's whine and complain and dispute facts like DNA and why they don't believe something unless they themselves see it right in front of them... even though they have no education on forensics or DNA or anything. The nay-sayers would probably have wanted to have Osama's body hung up on display as well stoking outrage within the terrorist organizations and provoking a bigger retaliation response from them than if we did it as quickly as we did.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Deganos
Edited by: Deganos on 02/05/2011 14:53:45
Edited by: Deganos on 02/05/2011 14:52:58
I have no idea actually how you could compare Hit ler with someone like Osama Bin laden. It was an entirely different situation back then.
Hit ler was the dictator of a nation wich at the end of it's existence had very little support from it's people. Osama Bin Laden was a Symbol for alot radical muslim terrorists, many of wich have nothing to do with al-Qaeda. He has now become a martyr to them.
Dead is dead, keep lining the martyrs up and see how long they care to make their list.
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Jno Aubrey
Galactic Patrol
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Deganos
Only a naieve fool would think the world is a better place now. Sadly there are alot of naieve fools in our world.
US Navy Seals: making the world a better place, one murdering bastard at a time.
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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Blacksquirrel
Mindless, Confused Rant
I will see your rant and raise you an "After a 10 year manhunt this would not stand up in any court of law"
The world deserved proof and a big fat serving of post post-mortem evidence, not just a "We got him" on the morning news. But now the supposed body of "the most wanted man alive" is laying at the bottom of the ocean instead.
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ChaeDoc II
Gallente
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Deganos
Only a naieve fool would think the world is a better place now. Sadly there are alot of naieve fools in our world.
Well it's certainly a less evil place, which can't be anythin but a good thing.
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Grrrrrrrre
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:18:00 -
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Personally I think he got off easy. I would of crippled him and let the family of his victims have at him. The same goes for any murderer or rapist. I wonder if in his last moments he realised that for all the hate he had for us. He created more hate for him and his supporters amongst us. Justice can only come from a victim of the act. A jury can decide legality and deem responsibility and truth. But justice and legality are proven separate entity's.
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Eternum Praetorian
PWNED Factor
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sonic Slayer
Originally by: Hoya en Marland
LOL @people really believing that Bin Laden was killed there.
*Sonic Slayer gives the slow clap while leaning against a bulkhead. *CLAP* ... *CLAP* ... *CLAP* ... *CLAP*
I'm sure that there will be people that will say that he is hiding out with Elvis and/or the space aliens as well. Regardless, time to shift fire and primary the new top dog while the Michael Moore's and Donald Trump's whine and complain and dispute facts like DNA and why they don't believe something unless they themselves see it right in front of them... even though they have no education on forensics or DNA or anything. The nay-sayers would probably have wanted to have Osama's body hung up on display as well stoking outrage within the terrorist organizations and provoking a bigger retaliation response from them than if we did it as quickly as we did.
And now that you covered every possibility in a nutshell...
I can't help but wonder if you actually said anything at all?
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Hoya en Marland
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sonic Slayer
Originally by: Hoya en Marland
LOL @people really believing that Bin Laden was killed there.
*Sonic Slayer gives the slow clap while leaning against a bulkhead. *CLAP* ... *CLAP* ... *CLAP* ... *CLAP*
I'm sure that there will be people that will say that he is hiding out with Elvis and/or the space aliens as well. Regardless, time to shift fire and primary the new top dog while the Michael Moore's and Donald Trump's whine and complain and dispute facts like DNA and why they don't believe something unless they themselves see it right in front of them... even though they have no education on forensics or DNA or anything. The nay-sayers would probably have wanted to have Osama's body hung up on display as well stoking outrage within the terrorist organizations and provoking a bigger retaliation response from them than if we did it as quickly as we did.
Oh come on. US propaganda machinery failed hard with this one. All they've managed to do was to manufacture this cheap fairytale so that Bin Laden and his imaginary terrorist organization can be finally pushed into some dusty corner, never to be looked at again. They served their purpose well and now it's time to forget and move on to new enemies... err, projects.
Also, not LOL, but ROFL @this blatantly photoshopped then officialy published picture of allegedly "dead" Bin Laden
http://www.pressonline.rs/upload/boxImageData/2011/4/2/137714/binladenmontaza.jpg
http://www.pressonline.rs/upload/boxImageData/2011/4/2/137716/bin-laden-fotomontaza2.jpg
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Malaclypse Muscaria
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Posted - 2011.05.02 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hoya en Marland
Also... not LOL, but ROFL @this blatantly photoshopped picture of allegedly "dead" Bin Laden, showed on Pakistan TV news
http://www.pressonline.rs/upload/boxImageData/2011/4/2/137714/binladenmontaza.jpg
http://www.pressonline.rs/upload/boxImageData/2011/4/2/137716/bin-laden-fotomontaza2.jpg
That known fake picture has been circulating around for two years, official pictures of his corpse have not been released yet.
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Steve Thomas
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:03:00 -
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as for Burial at sea, I can honestly see Mr. Lindsey ordering them to get that garbage overboard. More practicaly a burrial at sea at co-ordinates unknown is just fine with me. One less shrine dedicated to the latest random sycopath on the planet.
.End of line.
If your too paranoid to play EvE. . .
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ceaon
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:27:00 -
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Spain have a long history fighting ETA but at some point they did something stupid killing ppl whit no trail using death squads (GAL) and of some ministers did go to jail or on trial for doing this.
Now a nobel prize winner sign the death of other human on other country just because he can instead of bribing Bin Laden to a international court, now dozens of less intelligent humans party and are happy about this event instead of thinking about how many implication this can have, if you are happy about this all i can say "shame on you"
Whit this the western society that claim high moral grounds so many times just went down, way down in mud and it went so low that is just a inch above Bin Laden itself.
Originally by: Danton Marcellus
If the whole country is corrupted then it's no longer corruption but culture.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Spain have a long history fighting ETA but at some point they did something stupid killing ppl whit no trail using death squads (GAL) and of some ministers did go to jail or on trial for doing this.
Now a nobel prize winner sign the death of other human on other country just because he can instead of bribing Bin Laden to a international court, now dozens of less intelligent humans party and are happy about this event instead of thinking about how many implication this can have, if you are happy about this all i can say "shame on you"
Whit this the western society that claim high moral grounds so many times just went down, way down in mud and it went so low that is just a inch above Bin Laden itself.
If you love him so much why not get some scuba gear and have an underwater postmortem wedding?
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:35:00 -
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tbh two things must be told here:
a) Obama just won the elections with this; and
b) considering that Bin Laden wasn't considered "leadership" for some time, and that Al-Qaeda works in a cell-structure and not pyramid, killing him was just more for symbolism than actual strategic value. Al-Qaeda will still work, and things didn't changed much at all. If any, you people just created a martyr, and made things more dicey.
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
tbh two things must be told here:
a) Obama just won the elections with this; and
b) considering that Bin Laden wasn't considered "leadership" for some time, and that Al-Qaeda works in a cell-structure and not pyramid, killing him was just more for symbolism than actual strategic value. Al-Qaeda will still work, and things didn't changed much at all. If any, you people just created a martyr, and made things more dicey.
no kidding, you mean when you kill figureheads they can sometimes become martyrs for their cause?
stop the presses. wow, who knew.
if only we knew then what we know now. boy i bet obama and seal team 6 are really regretting killing him now huh?
/no one cares 
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Culmen
Caldari
Blood Phage Syndicate
Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Louis deGuerre
Originally by: Zedic
Win !
Puts on tinfoil hat...isn't it election time soon ? 
I'm kidding 
Seconded,
This was a good kill.
But I think it's not really going to affect anything.
Lefties like Obama anyway
Righties will claim that it's faked.
Al Queda will turn Osama into a martyr, but this really won't have any affect on them at all.
It's not like they can hate America anymore then they already do.
But as it boils down, the world is a slightly less evil place now, the world moved on from Osama Bin Ladin years ago.
It's just satisfying that he got a bullet to the head and then got fed to sharks.
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
if only we knew then what we know now. boy i bet obama and seal team 6 are really regretting killing him now huh?
/no one cares
then why the celebration?
you people (justified or not, tbh won't go there) killed a guy that has been carrying less and less weight on al-qaeda leadership since like 2007 or before.
at the very least, stuff will go on as yesterday or the day before; at most, al-qaeda will have their terrorist efforts re-doubled.
so yeah, you killed a figurehead that lost its strategic value ages ago but still was a political boon for any president in office.
go you?
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CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:52:00 -
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woot martyrdom \o/
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Pr1ncess Alia on 02/05/2011 16:53:19
Originally by: Grimpak
go you?
basically
no one really thought he was still the super mastermind running everything. for that matter, we have plenty more concerns regarding terrorism that have nothing to do with al qaeda
Not sure why some people have sand in their hatchet wounds over this. People die everyday. Yesterday we found out a rather ****-ish one died to a seal team bullet. He won't be missed.
go us!
(edited for accuracy)
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Grimpak
Gallente
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Grimpak
go you?
basically
no one really thought he was still the super mastermind running everything. for that matter, we have plenty more concerns regarding terrorism that have nothing to do with al qaeda
Not sure why some people have sand in their hatchet wounds over this. People die everyday. Today a rather ****-ish one died to a seal team bullet. He won't be missed.
go us!
good thing you understand that. now go celebrate your revenge, but don't forget that stuff's still bad.
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Lykouleon
Bad Kitty Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:55:00 -
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Edited by: Lykouleon on 02/05/2011 16:55:20
Originally by: Eternum Praetorian
When they got Sadam there were pictures, where are the pictures?
Yes...because just like ******, Osama was executed in a manner that was condemed by the international community and recorded on cellphone cameras.
edit: *******'s name is censored?! 
Don't click on this.
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Burnharder
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:55:00 -
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As far as I know, the body was disposed of in the Islamic way. Apparently that means the body is washed, wrapped in a white sheet/shroud and disposed of within 24 hours of death. This is what the US Navy says it did and I for one have no problem with it. Photographs and DNA samples were taken. I don't expect these to be released in the near future if at all.
The funny thing is if you think about it you've got no personal proof of any event you didn't personally witness, so what is it about this one that makes you think it didn't happen? Conspiracy theorists fail logic.
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Astenion
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2011.05.02 16:56:00 -
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Originally by: ceaon
Spain have a long history fighting ETA but at some point they did something stupid killing ppl whit no trail using death squads (GAL) and of some ministers did go to jail or on trial for doing this.
Now a nobel prize winner sign the death of other human on other country just because he can instead of bribing Bin Laden to a international court, now dozens of less intelligent humans party and are happy about this event instead of thinking about how many implication this can have, if you are happy about this all i can say "shame on you"
Whit this the western society that claim high moral grounds so many times just went down, way down in mud and it went so low that is just a inch above Bin Laden itself.
Yes, because asking him to come willingly was such a possibility in a firefight. Limp-wristed pacifists make me LOL.
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Burnharder
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Posted - 2011.05.02 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Astenion
Yes, because asking him to come willingly was such a possibility in a firefight. Limp-wristed pacifists make me LOL.
Indeed, as Orwell said, "Pacificm is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other". Orwell was writing about the Spanish Civil War, or possibly the Second World War (I forget), but his point stands.
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Zora
Gallente
Vector Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.02 17:25:00 -
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Originally by: Burnharder
Originally by: Astenion
Yes, because asking him to come willingly was such a possibility in a firefight. Limp-wristed pacifists make me LOL.
Indeed, as Orwell said, "Pacificm is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other". Orwell was writing about the Spanish Civil War, or possibly the Second World War (I forget), but his point stands.
If you are so inclined to quote Orwell, you certainly know that he meant that in a certain context, as he later explained: "In my opinion a few pacifists are inwardly pro-****, and extremist left-wing parties will inevitably contain Fascist spies. The important thing is to discover which individuals are honest and which are not, and the usual blanket accusation merely makes this more difficult."
Let me quote something else of him, quite fitting in this context... " The thing that strikes me more and more ù and it strikes a lot of other people, too ùis the extraordinary viciousness and dishonesty of political controversy in our time. I donÆt mean merely that controversies are acrimonious. They ought to be that when they are on serious subjects. I mean that almost nobody seems to feel that an opponent deserves a fair hearing or that the objective truth matters as long as you can score a neat debating point. "
It doesn't seem much has changed since he wrote about "his" time
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.05.02 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 02/05/2011 17:55:02
I do not hreally have much to say on this news topic so I will react to posts in the thread.
Originally by: simon perry
World Hide And Go Seek Champion (2001 - 2011)
Touche
Originally by: Reiisha
Gotta be honest, there are few Usians who wouldn't want to have pulled the trigger themselves. The possibility of them going in ahead is pretty real and shouldn't be dismissed, though in the end it doesn't really matter anyway.
And yes, not using "Americans" anymore as a word to describe people from the US. There's a lot of other countries on the continents with "America" in their names and i got pretty annoyed with it >_>
I gave up the struggle of trying to unify OOPE to make that change years ago. It was a fruitless task 
EDIT: US citizens is not too long to type and is the proper term. :END EDIT
Originally by: Loose Chick
was probably someone who looked like him and this was a convenient opportunity to claim victory (lol after 10 years)
I would bet that, whether or not this news is true, that there will be a video of Osama in the next few days.
Originally by: ceaon
interesting, the real question is why now ?
cause of libia ? japan cernobyl ? because Vermont got public healthcare ? why this distraction now 
Forged birth certificate?
Originally by: northwesten
death certificate. pls! or I don't believe it :) 
TouchT
Originally by: Zora
Let me quote something else of him, quite fitting in this context... " The thing that strikes me more and more ù and it strikes a lot of other people, too ùis the extraordinary viciousness and dishonesty of political controversy in our time. I donÆt mean merely that controversies are acrimonious. They ought to be that when they are on serious subjects. I mean that almost nobody seems to feel that an opponent deserves a fair hearing or that the objective truth matters as long as you can score a neat debating point. "
It doesn't seem much has changed since he wrote about "his" time
So true. / thumbs up
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Lindsay Logan
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Posted - 2011.05.02 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas
as for Burial at sea, I can honestly see Mr. Lindsey ordering them to get that garbage overboard. More practicaly a burrial at sea at co-ordinates unknown is just fine with me. One less shrine dedicated to the latest random sycopath on the planet.
Now just to clear up the rest of the psycos in US and the rest of the west.
Good thing they got rid of Osama, but what follows is what is important. I bet the wars will truck on for some time yet, and nothing will really change. They will find a new boogyman soon enough.
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