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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.03 21:46:00 -
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This is a 2 part post. (see what i did there?)
Please hold replies until both parts are posted, thanks.
This is part 2 of the discussion for the SHSG manufacturing IPO. Below you will find a rough draft of what we plan to do and offer in this IPO. There is room for adjustments and nothing is set in stone, these are idea's and a work in progress. Please use a bit of humor when reading.
SHSG Manufacturing IPO (not a final name)
ò Chapter 1 - Say What?
ò Chapter 2 - Lil more info please !
ò Chapter 3 - Got Milk?
ò Chapter 4 - Getting Paid!
ò Chapter 5 - Who runs this circus?
ò Chapter 6 - Wearing Protection!
ò Chapter 7 - Taking our ball and going home.
ò Chapter 8 - Show Me the Money!
ò Chapter 9 - Other things you want to know.
ò Chapter 1 - Say What?
Hello All
My name is Stealing Honest, and i am here to pitch a new offering. This IPO is small scale, with a very low purchase point for investors. It does not pretend to offer huge profits, nor does it over extend itself and take in great debt. We think this is a balanced, lower risk offering, but that's really up to you the investor to decide.
This is a start-up business. Please keep that in mind. We are offering investors ground floor investments and a chance to grow with us. This is not a get rich quick offering. We will not blow smoke up your ass and say you will see double digit gains, because you won't. What you will see however is an honest starting point, and managed growth over time. That is what we offer to you the investor and to ourselves as operators.
ò Chapter 2 - Lil more info please !
The funds from this IPO will be used to supply mineral stock for manufacturing. SHSG does not have a great deal of experience in mass production, therefor we are starting small with the goal of slow growth as our logistics improve. We will start with a few productions of manufacturing and feeling out the markets, while fine tuning our operations.
Most of the items manufactured will be basic ships. We will be using centralized assembly, supported by selected trade, opportunity costs, and some light investing to earn profits. We feel this is a balanced method and will yield results and steady profits over time.
ò Chapter 3 - Got Milk?
SHSG will inject in stages capital assets in the form of BPO's for this IPO. Asset injection will be ramped up as we expand. We will strive to maintain 75% assets to debt ratio during the life of this IPO. For every 4 Isk of debt we will have 3 isk of assets. These assets will be used to hedge against default, failure, or bankruptcy.
ò Chapter 4 - Getting Paid!
Shares for this IPO will be released from an SPV (this part im still working out). The SPV will issue funding to SHSG in the form of a flexible bond, in return for 50% of net manufacturing profit. The SPV will then payout 100% of all profits received monthly as dividends to shareholders. There are 4000 shares open to the public at the beginning of this offering. Additional shares will be released to the public if / when needed for expansion.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.03 21:48:00 -
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ò Chapter 5 - Who runs this circus?
The SPV will be run by a single member Zia Pow. This is a known alt of Stealing Honest, CEO of SHSG. There will be no other characters in the SPV.
ò Chapter 6 - Wearing Protection!
As with all investments there is a base level of risk. We do assert that we will not give you a sexually transmitted disease, and will not engage in rear action shenanigans with our investors. SHSG has a history of doing what it says, and meeting its obligations on time, every time. We will continue to follow these standards.
ò Chapter 7 - Taking our ball and going home.
Investors are free to sell/trade SH4U shares on the open market if they wish.
In the case that we decide to end this IPO, SHSG will pay repay the bond + final months profits to the SPV. All BPO's will be retained by SHSG. Lastly all manufactured assets + minerals + remaining stock associated with this IPO will be sold, and 50% of the remaining Isk will be sent to the SPV to be paid out as a div final bonus to shareholders.
The SPV will offer early buy back of shares for 90% release value. 30 days notice will be required for early buyback, but the SPV will try to process buybacks as soon as possible. Any shares sold back early to the SPV will forfeit the month ending Div payment. The SPV reserves the right to limit early buy backs to 20% of outstanding shares per 30 day period.
ò Chapter 8 - Show Me the Money!
Public Shares Available: 4000 at launch
Price Per Share: 1,000,000
Dividend Schedule: Monthly
Estimated Dividend: 150,000,000+
Projected Return per Div Payment: 1.5%+
Projected Return per share: 15,000+
As you can see the projection for returns are low for the first month. That is on purpose because this is a start up business. This is one of the reasons the shares are priced for low entry. We fully expect returns to be much higher over time, but we cannot in good faith quote higher returns for the opening month. Our goal is in the 3% to 5% range once we have all stages in place.
ò Chapter 9 - Other things you want to know.
Q: How do I know this isn't a scam?
A: We at SHSG have run many successful bonds, and a previous successful IPO. This IPO, just like all of our previous offerings focus on real profits and lower risk for SHSG and our investors. The same standards will be used to run this offering.
Q: How do you know you'll be successful?
A: One of the reasons we are starting small, and going in stages is to make sure we have sustainable profits. We believe that once we smooth out our logistics and get our flow track in order, we will be successful. We also believe this is a natural expansion for SHSG to use the BPO's collected over the last months.
Q: Why are you doing this?
A: We felt an IPO would meet our long term goals for manufacturing better than having to renew regular bonds.
Q: Will you ever buy back shares?
A: See chapter 7.
Q: Will you ever pay over 1.5% dividends?
A:This is just a starting projection number. 100% of profit after fee's will be paid out as Div's to share holders each month. It is important that we set realistic goals and meet them in stages as we improve over time. It would be foolish of us to offer massive returns at the beginning of this offering.
Thanks for reading everyone. These are our working ideas at the moment. We still have time to adjust this offering before launch, and i expect after feedback there will be some changes made.
Thank you
SH
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Jean Baptiste Johansson
High-Tech Duct Tape
DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.05.03 21:59:00 -
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Put me down for 1000 shares. 
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Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 03/05/2011 23:05:07
I too will take 1000 shares. When is the expected launch date?
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Candy Oshea
Amarr
Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:09:00 -
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What will you be Manufacturing? Ships/T1/T2/T3 (item group is fine)
i recall another thread where you were planning on manufacturing BS's & other tech 1 items etc. Tech 1 items particularly Ships have very slim margins.
Best of luck with your IPO.
Candy.
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iCandy Bonds
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Candy Oshea
What will you be Manufacturing? Ships/T1/T2/T3 (item group is fine)
i recall another thread where you were planning on manufacturing BS's & other tech 1 items etc. Tech 1 items particularly Ships have very slim margins.
Best of luck with your IPO.
Candy.
Yea i took your advice into count from my last thread. T1 can have very slim margins. I also took into count the point of opportunity costs. So that's why i added selected trade and light investment into our plan.
My light investment will allow a good buy in point for base mineral stock, but i wont blink an eye about selling the minerals for profit and skip a round of building if a sell location warrants it. That's where the light trade come in. My plan is manufacturing, but my overall goal is profit for our investors and SHSG.
Originally by: Khanid Voltar
Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 03/05/2011 23:05:07
When is the expected launch date?
Once this thread runs its course, we will clean up and launch.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr
Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Yea i took your advice into count from my last thread. T1 can have very slim margins. I also took into count the point of opportunity costs. So that's why i added selected trade and light investment into our plan.
My light investment will allow a good buy in point for base mineral stock, but i wont blink an eye about selling the minerals for profit and skip a round of building if a sell location warrants it. That's where the light trade come in. My plan is manufacturing, but my overall goal is profit for our investors and SHSG.
Excellent response thankyou.
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iCandy Bonds
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:40:00 -
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reserve 100 share for me, thk
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:52:00 -
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i will take 1000 shares
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:55:00 -
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I'll take the last 900 share.
I'm not scared, I'm still holing your BPOs 
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.04 21:06:00 -
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I have started the process of creating the shares for the SPV. The vote should be finished in 24 hours, then we can move forward.
Zia Pow
aka Stealing Honest
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:23:00 -
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*** Official Investor & Reserved List ***
Reserved:
Jean Baptiste Johansson 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m
Khanid Voltar 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m
egola 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m
Breaker77 900 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 900m
khai88 100 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 100m
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:27:00 -
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Should i seed the isk now?
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Edited by: Stealing Honest on 05/05/2011 23:27:28
Zia Pow will be handling all share, div, and investor isk transactions. All isk is to be sent to that character.
*don't worry if you mess up, ill make sure its right*
SH
Confirmed. SPV shares are from Krazy Banana [KZBA]
I'll send shares as soon as isk received.
Zia Pow
aka Stealing Honest
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: khai88
Should i seed the isk now?
We are ready to receive Isk when ever your ready
Zia/SH
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Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.06 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Breaker77 900 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 900m
ISK Sent
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.05.06 02:17:00 -
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Do I see a new listing coming to the Exchange?
BSAC Stock Exchange - EVE's only real-time stock exchange |
Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.06 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Khanid Voltar 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m
Isk sent
Originally by: Block Ukx
Do I see a new listing coming to the Exchange?
I'll transfer a share to the Exchange for tracking purposes upon receipt Block.
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Jean Baptiste Johansson
High-Tech Duct Tape
DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.05.06 05:42:00 -
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Sent ISK earlier just posting now. Sorry.
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.06 06:24:00 -
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something happen, will send the isk as soon as i can login
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.06 07:03:00 -
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isk sent!
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.06 08:39:00 -
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damn some of these offerings goes fast 
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.06 14:21:00 -
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Isk received and shares issued. Sent 100 bonus shares to Breaker77.
Ill be back in a few hours to answer any questions if needed.
Zia/SH
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.06 15:51:00 -
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Want to buy SHSG share, pls mail me in game for offer thk alot
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Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.06 19:41:00 -
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1k shares rec'd of which 1 will be added to the BSAC SE shortly for tracking.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.06 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx
Do I see a new listing coming to the Exchange?
I'm not against it.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.05.07 01:09:00 -
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BSAC Welcomes SHSG to the Exchange. Please be advice the electronic shares have a 100:1 stock split, therefore IPO price is listed as 10,000 ISK in the Exchange.
BSAC Stock Exchange - EVE's only real-time stock exchange |
Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.07 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zia Pow
Isk received and shares issued. Sent 100 bonus shares to Breaker77.
Do I need to send these back?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.07 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Zia Pow
Isk received and shares issued. Sent 100 bonus shares to Breaker77.
Do I need to send these back?
Please keep them. Our small thank you for all the services you provide.
SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.18 20:51:00 -
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** Mid Month Update*
So our 1st test batch was 60 battle cruisers, built from jita mineral buy orders. These orders we let sit and run on their own until filled, and it took about a week.
We then had the minerals shipped via contract to our build stations, and it took about 3 days to cook them.
We then shipped them to our sales locations and placed them on sell orders, letting them run until they sold on their own.
Costs:
Mins: -1,476,929,464 Isk
Broker Fee: -11,815,435
Shipping: -650,000
Manufacturing random fee's: -68,748
Total Estimated Cost: -1,489,463,647 = -24,824,394 per ship.
Income:
Gross Sales 60 ships sold: +2,100,000,000
Less Est Tax: -21,000,000
Less Est Broker Fees: -16,800,000
Est Net Sales Total: +2,062,200,000
Net Profit Est to date: +572,736,353
Please remember these are quick estimates, and rounded for ease of posting.
SH
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