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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.03 21:46:00 -
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This is a 2 part post. (see what i did there?)
Please hold replies until both parts are posted, thanks.
This is part 2 of the discussion for the SHSG manufacturing IPO. Below you will find a rough draft of what we plan to do and offer in this IPO. There is room for adjustments and nothing is set in stone, these are idea's and a work in progress. Please use a bit of humor when reading.
SHSG Manufacturing IPO (not a final name)
ò Chapter 1 - Say What? ò Chapter 2 - Lil more info please ! ò Chapter 3 - Got Milk? ò Chapter 4 - Getting Paid! ò Chapter 5 - Who runs this circus? ò Chapter 6 - Wearing Protection! ò Chapter 7 - Taking our ball and going home. ò Chapter 8 - Show Me the Money! ò Chapter 9 - Other things you want to know.
ò Chapter 1 - Say What?
Hello All
My name is Stealing Honest, and i am here to pitch a new offering. This IPO is small scale, with a very low purchase point for investors. It does not pretend to offer huge profits, nor does it over extend itself and take in great debt. We think this is a balanced, lower risk offering, but that's really up to you the investor to decide.
This is a start-up business. Please keep that in mind. We are offering investors ground floor investments and a chance to grow with us. This is not a get rich quick offering. We will not blow smoke up your ass and say you will see double digit gains, because you won't. What you will see however is an honest starting point, and managed growth over time. That is what we offer to you the investor and to ourselves as operators.
ò Chapter 2 - Lil more info please !
The funds from this IPO will be used to supply mineral stock for manufacturing. SHSG does not have a great deal of experience in mass production, therefor we are starting small with the goal of slow growth as our logistics improve. We will start with a few productions of manufacturing and feeling out the markets, while fine tuning our operations.
Most of the items manufactured will be basic ships. We will be using centralized assembly, supported by selected trade, opportunity costs, and some light investing to earn profits. We feel this is a balanced method and will yield results and steady profits over time.
ò Chapter 3 - Got Milk?
SHSG will inject in stages capital assets in the form of BPO's for this IPO. Asset injection will be ramped up as we expand. We will strive to maintain 75% assets to debt ratio during the life of this IPO. For every 4 Isk of debt we will have 3 isk of assets. These assets will be used to hedge against default, failure, or bankruptcy.
ò Chapter 4 - Getting Paid!
Shares for this IPO will be released from an SPV (this part im still working out). The SPV will issue funding to SHSG in the form of a flexible bond, in return for 50% of net manufacturing profit. The SPV will then payout 100% of all profits received monthly as dividends to shareholders. There are 4000 shares open to the public at the beginning of this offering. Additional shares will be released to the public if / when needed for expansion.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.03 21:48:00 -
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ò Chapter 5 - Who runs this circus?
The SPV will be run by a single member Zia Pow. This is a known alt of Stealing Honest, CEO of SHSG. There will be no other characters in the SPV.
ò Chapter 6 - Wearing Protection!
As with all investments there is a base level of risk. We do assert that we will not give you a sexually transmitted disease, and will not engage in rear action shenanigans with our investors. SHSG has a history of doing what it says, and meeting its obligations on time, every time. We will continue to follow these standards.
ò Chapter 7 - Taking our ball and going home.
Investors are free to sell/trade SH4U shares on the open market if they wish.
In the case that we decide to end this IPO, SHSG will pay repay the bond + final months profits to the SPV. All BPO's will be retained by SHSG. Lastly all manufactured assets + minerals + remaining stock associated with this IPO will be sold, and 50% of the remaining Isk will be sent to the SPV to be paid out as a div final bonus to shareholders.
The SPV will offer early buy back of shares for 90% release value. 30 days notice will be required for early buyback, but the SPV will try to process buybacks as soon as possible. Any shares sold back early to the SPV will forfeit the month ending Div payment. The SPV reserves the right to limit early buy backs to 20% of outstanding shares per 30 day period.
ò Chapter 8 - Show Me the Money!
Public Shares Available: 4000 at launch
Price Per Share: 1,000,000
Dividend Schedule: Monthly
Estimated Dividend: 150,000,000+
Projected Return per Div Payment: 1.5%+
Projected Return per share: 15,000+
As you can see the projection for returns are low for the first month. That is on purpose because this is a start up business. This is one of the reasons the shares are priced for low entry. We fully expect returns to be much higher over time, but we cannot in good faith quote higher returns for the opening month. Our goal is in the 3% to 5% range once we have all stages in place.
ò Chapter 9 - Other things you want to know.
Q: How do I know this isn't a scam? A: We at SHSG have run many successful bonds, and a previous successful IPO. This IPO, just like all of our previous offerings focus on real profits and lower risk for SHSG and our investors. The same standards will be used to run this offering.
Q: How do you know you'll be successful? A: One of the reasons we are starting small, and going in stages is to make sure we have sustainable profits. We believe that once we smooth out our logistics and get our flow track in order, we will be successful. We also believe this is a natural expansion for SHSG to use the BPO's collected over the last months.
Q: Why are you doing this? A: We felt an IPO would meet our long term goals for manufacturing better than having to renew regular bonds.
Q: Will you ever buy back shares? A: See chapter 7.
Q: Will you ever pay over 1.5% dividends? A:This is just a starting projection number. 100% of profit after fee's will be paid out as Div's to share holders each month. It is important that we set realistic goals and meet them in stages as we improve over time. It would be foolish of us to offer massive returns at the beginning of this offering.
Thanks for reading everyone. These are our working ideas at the moment. We still have time to adjust this offering before launch, and i expect after feedback there will be some changes made.
Thank you SH
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Jean Baptiste Johansson
High-Tech Duct Tape DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.05.03 21:59:00 -
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Put me down for 1000 shares.
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Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 03/05/2011 23:05:07 I too will take 1000 shares. When is the expected launch date?
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:09:00 -
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What will you be Manufacturing? Ships/T1/T2/T3 (item group is fine)
i recall another thread where you were planning on manufacturing BS's & other tech 1 items etc. Tech 1 items particularly Ships have very slim margins.
Best of luck with your IPO.
Candy.
___ iCandy Bonds
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea What will you be Manufacturing? Ships/T1/T2/T3 (item group is fine)
i recall another thread where you were planning on manufacturing BS's & other tech 1 items etc. Tech 1 items particularly Ships have very slim margins.
Best of luck with your IPO.
Candy.
Yea i took your advice into count from my last thread. T1 can have very slim margins. I also took into count the point of opportunity costs. So that's why i added selected trade and light investment into our plan.
My light investment will allow a good buy in point for base mineral stock, but i wont blink an eye about selling the minerals for profit and skip a round of building if a sell location warrants it. That's where the light trade come in. My plan is manufacturing, but my overall goal is profit for our investors and SHSG.
Originally by: Khanid Voltar Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 03/05/2011 23:05:07 When is the expected launch date?
Once this thread runs its course, we will clean up and launch.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.05.03 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Yea i took your advice into count from my last thread. T1 can have very slim margins. I also took into count the point of opportunity costs. So that's why i added selected trade and light investment into our plan.
My light investment will allow a good buy in point for base mineral stock, but i wont blink an eye about selling the minerals for profit and skip a round of building if a sell location warrants it. That's where the light trade come in. My plan is manufacturing, but my overall goal is profit for our investors and SHSG.
Excellent response thankyou. ___ iCandy Bonds
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:40:00 -
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reserve 100 share for me, thk
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:52:00 -
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i will take 1000 shares
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.04 00:55:00 -
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I'll take the last 900 share.
I'm not scared, I'm still holing your BPOs
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.04 21:06:00 -
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I have started the process of creating the shares for the SPV. The vote should be finished in 24 hours, then we can move forward.
Zia Pow aka Stealing Honest
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:23:00 -
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*** Official Investor & Reserved List ***
Reserved:
Jean Baptiste Johansson 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m Khanid Voltar 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m egola 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m Breaker77 900 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 900m khai88 100 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 100m
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:27:00 -
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Should i seed the isk now?
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest Edited by: Stealing Honest on 05/05/2011 23:27:28
Zia Pow will be handling all share, div, and investor isk transactions. All isk is to be sent to that character.
*don't worry if you mess up, ill make sure its right*
SH
Confirmed. SPV shares are from Krazy Banana [KZBA]
I'll send shares as soon as isk received.
Zia Pow aka Stealing Honest
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.05 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: khai88 Should i seed the isk now?
We are ready to receive Isk when ever your ready
Zia/SH
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.06 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Breaker77 900 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 900m
ISK Sent
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.05.06 02:17:00 -
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Do I see a new listing coming to the Exchange?
BSAC Stock Exchange - EVE's only real-time stock exchange |
Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.06 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest Khanid Voltar 1000 shares @ 1m Isk ea = 1000m
Isk sent
Originally by: Block Ukx Do I see a new listing coming to the Exchange?
I'll transfer a share to the Exchange for tracking purposes upon receipt Block.
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Jean Baptiste Johansson
High-Tech Duct Tape DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.05.06 05:42:00 -
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Sent ISK earlier just posting now. Sorry.
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.06 06:24:00 -
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something happen, will send the isk as soon as i can login
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.06 07:03:00 -
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isk sent!
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Dasola
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.05.06 08:39:00 -
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damn some of these offerings goes fast
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.05.06 14:21:00 -
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Isk received and shares issued. Sent 100 bonus shares to Breaker77.
Ill be back in a few hours to answer any questions if needed.
Zia/SH
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.05.06 15:51:00 -
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Want to buy SHSG share, pls mail me in game for offer thk alot
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Khanid Voltar
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Posted - 2011.05.06 19:41:00 -
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1k shares rec'd of which 1 will be added to the BSAC SE shortly for tracking.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.06 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Block Ukx
Do I see a new listing coming to the Exchange?
I'm not against it.
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Block Ukx
Forge Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.05.07 01:09:00 -
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BSAC Welcomes SHSG to the Exchange. Please be advice the electronic shares have a 100:1 stock split, therefore IPO price is listed as 10,000 ISK in the Exchange.
BSAC Stock Exchange - EVE's only real-time stock exchange |
Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.05.07 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: Zia Pow Isk received and shares issued. Sent 100 bonus shares to Breaker77.
Do I need to send these back?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.07 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Zia Pow Isk received and shares issued. Sent 100 bonus shares to Breaker77.
Do I need to send these back?
Please keep them. Our small thank you for all the services you provide.
SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.18 20:51:00 -
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** Mid Month Update*
So our 1st test batch was 60 battle cruisers, built from jita mineral buy orders. These orders we let sit and run on their own until filled, and it took about a week.
We then had the minerals shipped via contract to our build stations, and it took about 3 days to cook them.
We then shipped them to our sales locations and placed them on sell orders, letting them run until they sold on their own.
Costs: Mins: -1,476,929,464 Isk Broker Fee: -11,815,435 Shipping: -650,000 Manufacturing random fee's: -68,748
Total Estimated Cost: -1,489,463,647 = -24,824,394 per ship.
Income: Gross Sales 60 ships sold: +2,100,000,000 Less Est Tax: -21,000,000 Less Est Broker Fees: -16,800,000 Est Net Sales Total: +2,062,200,000
Net Profit Est to date: +572,736,353
Please remember these are quick estimates, and rounded for ease of posting.
SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.25 17:24:00 -
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**Expansion Notice**
This is notification that SHSG will be expanding and offering additional shares starting may 31st after div payments are made for the month of may.
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Jean Baptiste Johansson
High-Tech Duct Tape DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.05.25 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest **Expansion Notice**
This is notification that SHSG will be expanding and offering additional shares starting may 31st after div payments are made for the month of may.
Put me down for some. We'll talk when I get out of this hell-hole.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.31 23:18:00 -
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May Dividends Paid
342,000,000 Isk @ 38,000 Isk per share
SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.05.31 23:32:00 -
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Confirming that my wallet went flashy flashy.
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Khanid Voltar
Accenture PLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:13:00 -
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Also confirming receipt; thanks SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 16:12:00 -
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As stated a few days ago, SHSG is offering an expansion for this Ipo.
We have 9000 shares available. This offer will be open for 48 hours. Shares are 1m isk ea. After 48 hours the expansion will be closed, we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.06.01 16:14:00 -
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I'd like to snap up 250 shares if I may?
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.06.01 16:16:00 -
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Put me down for 5000 shares.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Galleus Oramara I'd like to snap up 250 shares if I may?
Send Isk when you get a chance and ill transfer the shares.
SH
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:06:00 -
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Isk sent!
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:11:00 -
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Shares Sent Galleus. They are listed as Krazy Banana our SPV.
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:14:00 -
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Shares received, thank you.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.06.01 18:14:00 -
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You triple the size of your debt, adding an extra 9bil, after 20 days of operation and nobody asks any questions at all . Not meant to be a comment on you SH but basic investor diligence seems to have gone out of the window over the last few months.
For the sake of form then:
1) Is this your only current unsecured debt? 2) What is the highest amount of unsecured isk you have held so far? 3) Is there any cap on the amount you may seek to raise through expansions? 4) If the answer to 3) is no, would you consider waiving the early buyback fee for current investors who may at some point become concerned about a potentially infinitely increasing risk profile?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 You triple the size of your debt, adding an extra 9bil, after 20 days of operation and nobody asks any questions at all . Not meant to be a comment on you SH but basic investor diligence seems to have gone out of the window over the last few months.
For the sake of form then:
1) Is this your only current unsecured debt? 2) What is the highest amount of unsecured isk you have held so far? 3) Is there any cap on the amount you may seek to raise through expansions? 4) If the answer to 3) is no, would you consider waiving the early buyback fee for current investors who may at some point become concerned about a potentially infinitely increasing risk profile?
Hey Raw23, good questions.
1) Yes this is my only unsecured debt. 2) Give me a few minutes to look over my past bonds, and ipo and get a number for you. 3) Yes, hard cap is 20b. This is the amount that can be covered by current BPOs @ npc value, though they have all been researched.. This was the amount i had set as the cap during my discussion phases. 4) I am always open to my investors concerns. I am always open to talk, and adjust if needed.
Ill work on #3, and have your answer shortly.
SH
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Stabmeldys
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Posted - 2011.06.01 21:10:00 -
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Any shares avialable?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Stealing Honest on 01/06/2011 21:19:19
550 in hand 3000 for reservations. Ready when i get the vote/sanction bug work around --- soon
3550 total still open to claim.
SH
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Stabmeldys
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Posted - 2011.06.01 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Stabmeldys on 01/06/2011 22:16:55
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:43:00 -
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Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest Note: Raw23 one thing i should point out is there has be much questioning and answering in Signatures, and SCC_Lounge about this expansion. I think that is why there isn't as much here atm.
Is there some website or other source where we can read logs from SCC_Lounge or Signatures if we were not logged in at the time?
If there's not, someone should build that: a chat log aggregator. If a bunch of people on an ad hoc basis are willing to supply their own chat logs for a channel, it should be a SMOP to whip up a website that presents 24-h-less-downtime coverage, right? Accepting logs only from API-validated pilots, cross-validating submissions, and only posting cross-validated texts might mitigate concerns about falsification / log poisoning.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest As stated a few days ago, SHSG is offering an expansion for this Ipo.
We have 9000 shares available. This offer will be open for 48 hours. Shares are 1m isk ea. After 48 hours the expansion will be closed, we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
9 Bil isk expansion?
Sorry if i missed this, but what is the sudden need for 9 extra bil, after such a short time running this venture?
Put bluntly, what will the additional capitol be getting used for?
Would it be a better idea to run a SHSG bond/loan & minimise both your risk and that of the investors.
Were the current shareholders aware of this IPO's end game goals/expansion stradegies in its entirety?
Originally by: Stealing Honest we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
I realize im quoting you out of context but this, but the statement above is a little worrisome. It tells me that there isn't a specific purpose for the expansion, its a very casual statement with regards to that amount of isk, can you please elaborate?
Thanks for your answers in advance.
Candy. ___ iCandy Bonds
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.06.02 13:01:00 -
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Thanks for the answers. I expect the investors were quiet because they were better informed than me .
Could you just clarify your third answer for me? Will the BPO value move with the addition of new funds, that is, will the cap potentially get nudged upwards through the purchase of new prints as you expand or are the funds being raised purely for materials?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.02 15:12:00 -
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Good Morning All
Ill try to answer your questions while i have some coffee.
Originally by: Thoraemond
Is there some website or other source where we can read logs from SCC_Lounge or Signatures if we were not logged in at the time?
If there's not, someone should build that: a chat log aggregator. If a bunch of people on an ad hoc basis are willing to supply their own chat logs for a channel, it should be a SMOP to whip up a website that presents 24-h-less-downtime coverage, right? Accepting logs only from API-validated pilots, cross-validating submissions, and only posting cross-validated texts might mitigate concerns about falsification / log poisoning.
Thoraemond, i don't know.
Originally by: Candy Oshea
Originally by: Stealing Honest As stated a few days ago, SHSG is offering an expansion for this Ipo.
We have 9000 shares available. This offer will be open for 48 hours. Shares are 1m isk ea. After 48 hours the expansion will be closed, we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
9 Bil isk expansion?
Sorry if i missed this, but what is the sudden need for 9 extra bil, after such a short time running this venture?
Put bluntly, what will the additional capitol be getting used for?
Would it be a better idea to run a SHSG bond/loan & minimise both your risk and that of the investors.
Were the current shareholders aware of this IPO's end game goals/expansion stradegies in its entirety?
Originally by: Stealing Honest we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
I realize im quoting you out of context but this, but the statement above is a little worrisome. It tells me that there isn't a specific purpose for the expansion, its a very casual statement with regards to that amount of isk, can you please elaborate?
Thanks for your answers in advance.
Candy.
Candy
9b for this part yes, and the final phase will be 7b, for a total of 20b. This Ipo in my view is no more risky then my bonds running in the past. I have stated that we would maintain a min of 75% asset to debt, and atm even with this 9b expansion we are at 100%.
I have been clear from the beginning that this is a 20b project. The 1st phase was a test period, and as logistics and assets became ready we would ramp up to full operation. The funds from this IPO are used in manufacturing, and the trade associated with manufacturing.
I disagree with your second quote statement, that its casual. I am working on a 48 hour window to sell shares. I have stated how many are available in total, and the time window they will be on sale. Once the time is over, the sale is closed. If persons wish shares after the close they may buy from the market or wait for another sale.
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 02/06/2011 13:10:56 Thanks for the answers. I expect the investors were quiet because they were better informed than me .
Could you just clarify your third answer for me? Will the BPO value move with the addition of new funds, that is, will the cap potentially get nudged upwards through the purchase of new prints as you expand or are the funds being raised purely for materials? I expect this was covered in the discussion phase but my connection is playing up and I'm finding evesearch a bit tricky to use.
Raw23
At the moment they the funds are being raised for materials, and trades that are part of manufacturing.
The nudging up part is a very good point. At the moment i have the ability to cover well over the 75% min asset to debt ration i promised, im around 100% atm even with the expansion. I see now also that i will be at or above 100% even when 20b cap is reached.
A nudge forward was not in my original plan. I would not feel comfortable nudging forward unless i can keep my 75% asset to debt ratio, and would prefer closer to 100%. I would probably need an investor vote, or at least let them sell out before offering a cap advance, but I'm not planning a nudge at this time.
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.06.02 15:58:00 -
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When the vote bug is fixed I'll take the last 1550 shares.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.06.02 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Candy
9b for this part yes, and the final phase will be 7b, for a total of 20b. This Ipo in my view is no more risky then my bonds running in the past. I have stated that we would maintain a min of 75% asset to debt, and atm even with this 9b expansion we are at 100%.
I have been clear from the beginning that this is a 20b project. The 1st phase was a test period, and as logistics and assets became ready we would ramp up to full operation. The funds from this IPO are used in manufacturing, and the trade associated with manufacturing.
I disagree with your second quote statement, that its casual. I am working on a 48 hour window to sell shares. I have stated how many are available in total, and the time window they will be on sale. Once the time is over, the sale is closed. If persons wish shares after the close they may buy from the market or wait for another sale.
I agree with Raw23, perhaps your investors are better informed than me
Ok i understand now, you have tested the waters of your business with a small portion *phase 1* & now are ready to go "all in" with it, as the numbers/margins your business is creating is meeting your expectations.
As for the 'casual' thing its simply my interpretation of you wording, i suspect information im not privy to was given to investors/scc-/signitures channel at the beginning of your phase 2 expansion. Perhaps a language barrier or some such.
Good luck with it & thanks very much for your answers. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.03 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: trance atlas Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
I have the shares set aside for you.
SH
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Originally by: trance atlas Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
I have the shares set aside for you.
SH
even thou your name suggest you will take my isk at some point isk sent
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.03 17:50:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Stealing Honest on 03/06/2011 17:50:53
Originally by: trance atlas Edited by: trance atlas on 03/06/2011 15:17:44
Originally by: Stealing Honest
Originally by: trance atlas Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
I have the shares set aside for you.
SH
even thou your name suggest you will take my isk at some point
edit 2 bil sent to stealing honest
Never judge a book by its cover
Shares sent.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.12 04:37:00 -
[58]
**Attention Investors**
We will be having a share exchange on 6/18 and will discontinue KZBA shares.
We will be changing the spv to Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment [SH4U]
All investors will receive new shares on the 18th.
Thank You
Stealing Honest CEO SHSG
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.12 05:50:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Stealing Honest
We will be changing the spv to Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment [SH4U]
I hope this is a joke.
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.12 05:58:00 -
[60]
Good lord...what have I done?
Warning: This person is a scammer and should not be trusted |
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.06.12 11:14:00 -
[61]
I like your balls!
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Tutskii
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Posted - 2011.06.12 15:11:00 -
[62]
I congratulate SH in his movement to the unified 4U brand of investments.
I also take this opportunity to announce the hugely anticipated name of the 4th murblybux bond available sometime later this summer, perhaps:
murblybux4U!
Go make a new disaster, that's what I'm counting on. You're someone else's problem, now I only want you gone...
http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1516147 mcv |
Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.12 21:16:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Stealing Honest
We will be changing the spv to Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment [SH4U]
I hope this is a joke.
It will be a painless transaction. We felt moving shares to Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment would better help the public identify the shares and their value on the open market.
The Krazy Banana brand while good, didn't link well enough to the parent company. We feel this will address that issue in a clear and easily visual manner.
Ill post instructions for the share swap mid week.
SH
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Lord Wickham
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Posted - 2011.06.13 16:18:00 -
[64]
It will be a painless transaction. We felt moving shares to Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment would better help the public identify the shares and their value on the open market.
SH
you mean to say that stealing honest 4 U would better help the public determine that your IPO is a scam?
or is it stealing honestly from U?
if i was an investor this would cause major issues for me. its like your almost blatantly telling your investors to their face that you are going to scam, so that when the scam does come out you can have a great big fat whopping I TOLD YOU SO.
there is no need for a change in name and certainly no need whether its in humour or not to change the name to SH4U.
"would better help the public identify the shares and their value on the open market. " the value of your shares on the market IMO is worth 1 isk, anyone who wants to exchange shares me with i'm willing to pay you what their worth.
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.13 16:33:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 13/06/2011 16:35:24 While the new name is 'more catchy' it follows a naming convention of investments that subsequently have been revealed as scams. With recent history in mind, this definitely makes me concerned about my investment.
What are my options should I decide I want to withdraw? Can the corp buy back my shares, or does anyone else want to buy them?
KV
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:13:00 -
[66]
This totally rocks. This has humour and style.
If any of you ladies are scared send me a mail and I'll buy your shares for 10% of the original offer price.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.06.13 18:39:00 -
[67]
Hot tip - sell to Ariana
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.13 22:46:00 -
[68]
Edited by: trance atlas on 13/06/2011 22:52:20 You (mebbe) prick I hope your trolling cause haters gonna hate
Edit I hope we are not gonna Brock this exchange ie you send new shares, then I send old shares
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.13 23:52:00 -
[69]
*Create IPO *Expand it 2 weeks later *Change which Shares to payout dividends with *Public/investors Have no clue who has what shares
IMO: ITT: Noob who doesn't have majority share of his 'Company' fears a CEO lack of confidence Vote, covers his tracks by making new 'company' with himself being majority shareholder, created with inside Joke "4U" to troll MD.
PPL With isk in this IPO should sell sell sell, he's either an amateur or a scam. Yours Trolly,
Mr Misty.... |
E Trade
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Posted - 2011.06.14 00:04:00 -
[70]
kinda funny, kinda not misty u still suck at posting, go away.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.14 04:53:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Stealing Honest on 14/06/2011 04:53:47
Originally by: Lord Wickham
you mean to say that stealing honest 4 U would better help the public determine that your IPO is a scam?
or is it stealing honestly from U?
if i was an investor this would cause major issues for me. its like your almost blatantly telling your investors to their face that you are going to scam, so that when the scam does come out you can have a great big fat whopping I TOLD YOU SO.
there is no need for a change in name and certainly no need whether its in humour or not to change the name to SH4U.
"would better help the public identify the shares and their value on the open market. " the value of your shares on the market IMO is worth 1 isk, anyone who wants to exchange shares me with i'm willing to pay you what their worth.
Ive done well for my investors over the last year, and Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment is a better link to SHSG. Nothing is changing other than the linking to the parent company. I've never scammed anyone, I've never missed a payment, I've never failed to meet my obligations at any time on any offering I've ever made.
If you are going to judge me only by a name...well that boat sailed long ago.
Originally by: Khanid Voltar Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 13/06/2011 16:35:24 While the new name is 'more catchy' it follows a naming convention of investments that subsequently have been revealed as scams. With recent history in mind, this definitely makes me concerned about my investment.
What are my options should I decide I want to withdraw? Can the corp buy back my shares, or does anyone else want to buy them? KV
If you wish out, ill cash you out at 100%. I do not wish to for investors to remain of they want out. I expect people to invest in SHSG based on how we have performed over time. I have always conducted my business in a manner that's up front, and profitable to investors and myself, that will not change.
Originally by: trance atlas Edited by: trance atlas on 13/06/2011 22:52:20 You (mebbe) prick I hope your trolling cause haters gonna hate
Edit I hope we are not gonna Brock this exchange ie you send new shares, then I send old shares
I will make contact with investors. I'll send new shares, investors will confirm they received them. Then investors can send back old shares at their leisure. Ill try to do the transfer by weeks end.
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge *Create IPO *Expand it 2 weeks later *Change which Shares to payout dividends with *Public/investors Have no clue who has what shares
IMO: ITT: Noob who doesn't have majority share of his 'Company' fears a CEO lack of confidence Vote, covers his tracks by making new 'company' with himself being majority shareholder, created with inside Joke "4U" to troll MD.
PPL With isk in this IPO should sell sell sell, he's either an amateur or a scam.
The shares are done by SPV, for the purpose of paying divs only. Votes for confidence have not effect.
There are no tracks to cover, no hidden agenda, just a name change.
I'll check this post tomorrow when i get home,
SH
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.14 09:20:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Stealing Honest I've never scammed anyone, I've never missed a payment, I've never failed to meet my obligations at any time on any offering I've ever made.
If you are going to judge me only by a name...well that boat sailed long ago.
Originally by: Khanid Voltar Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 13/06/2011 16:35:24 While the new name is 'more catchy' it follows a naming convention of investments that subsequently have been revealed as scams. With recent history in mind, this definitely makes me concerned about my investment.
What are my options should I decide I want to withdraw? Can the corp buy back my shares, or does anyone else want to buy them? KV
If you wish out, ill cash you out at 100%. I do not wish to for investors to remain of they want out. I expect people to invest in SHSG based on how we have performed over time. I have always conducted my business in a manner that's up front, and profitable to investors and myself, that will not change.
Thank you for your forthright response, I will think on this matter throughout the day and get back to you with an appropriate response as soon as I can.
Should I wish to talk to you directly on the matter, as I am unable to log into eve 3-11pm eve time I will evemail you via evegate.
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egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.15 23:48:00 -
[73]
will the next dividend be distributed through these shares or will they be distributed with the new ones?
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.15 23:55:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 15/06/2011 23:55:19 F u c k it, it's only a bill.
I'm still in.
KV
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.16 03:44:00 -
[75]
Originally by: egola will the next dividend be distributed through these shares or will they be distributed with the new ones?
I plan to distribute through the new one. Ill issue the new shares, along with an eve mail...and pay to the new ones. Investors can send back the old shares at their leisure after they have gotten new shares and been paid end of months divs.
SH
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.16 05:55:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 16/06/2011 05:55:33
Originally by: Khanid Voltar Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 15/06/2011 23:55:19 F u c k it, it's only a bill.
I'm still in.
KV
Have you actually made money out of MD? you seem to get screwed erry couple of bonds... who do u have investments in atm?
on topic.
SH: changing corps Mid flight is stupid. stupid. stupid. what brand? lol i can;t believe ppl eat this crap up. _________________________________________________
Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone. |
Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.06.16 08:15:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 16/06/2011 05:55:33
Originally by: Khanid Voltar Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 15/06/2011 23:55:19 *snip* Spitfire it, it's only a bill.
I'm still in.
KV
Have you actually made money out of MD? you seem to get screwed erry couple of bonds... who do u have investments in atm?
Depends what you classify as every couple of bonds. Out of 15-20, two have decided to scam - Machete and Brock.
Brock's one was the big hit to my balance sheet, but so far am still up a bill on when I first started investing in Feb, and still projected to make a good first year profit.
Have gotten what I needed from MD though - and no it wasn't a profit.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.19 03:47:00 -
[78]
Egola has asked to cash out, and will be refunded at 100% issue price tonight.
That said, we will have 1000 shares available for sale...with 1st div payment to them on June 30th.
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khai88
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Posted - 2011.06.19 04:36:00 -
[79]
Edited by: khai88 on 19/06/2011 04:37:11 i will get atlest 100, how much per share?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.19 05:40:00 -
[80]
Originally by: khai88 Edited by: khai88 on 19/06/2011 04:37:11 i will get atlest 100, how much per share?
We are staying with the original issue price of 1m per share.
SH
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Roland Schlosser
THE EXOGEN CONSORTIUM
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Posted - 2011.06.19 06:01:00 -
[81]
I'll take 100 if those shares. |
Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.19 06:20:00 -
[82]
Im going to post a reserve and issue list for 1000 re-issue shares below. Buyers can send Isk & shares will be issued as soon as confirmed.
Reserved: Khai88 100 @ 100m Isk Roland Schlosser 100 @ 100m Isk
Issued:
Shares Left For Sale: 1000
Thanks SH
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Arancar Australis
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Posted - 2011.06.19 07:35:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Arancar Australis on 19/06/2011 07:35:21 Please reserve 100 shares.
Is isk still to be sent to Zia Pow?
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Roland Schlosser
THE EXOGEN CONSORTIUM
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Posted - 2011.06.19 15:16:00 -
[84]
ISK sent, awaiting receipt of shares
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Callean Drevus
Caldari Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.06.19 18:14:00 -
[85]
I might be interested in buying shares, though this would be a first for me. I'd be obliged if you can explain the process to me in more detail. I'm especially confused by how shares are tracked. Are they just numbers somewhere on a slip of paper, or represented somewhere in the EVE game mechanics?
Currently interested in 200 shares. "A fool flatters himself, a wise man flatters the fool." |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.19 18:17:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Callean Drevus I might be interested in buying shares, though this would be a first for me. I'd be obliged if you can explain the process to me in more detail. I'm especially confused by how shares are tracked. Are they just numbers somewhere on a slip of paper, or represented somewhere in the EVE game mechanics?
Currently interested in 200 shares.
There are 2 kind of shares: regular and virtual.
You will get the regular ones, they are implemented in EvE and can be sent to people. When a payment is made you will see a message about having received a dividend out of a certain total.
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
Fuzzballl
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Posted - 2011.06.19 19:59:00 -
[87]
Edited by: Fuzzballl on 19/06/2011 20:01:14 isk sent for 50 Shares
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:00:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Ariana DeSoto on 19/06/2011 23:02:57 If my math is correct I'll take the last 450 shares. My OCD is acting up and I need a round number for my shares.
I'll send the ISK to Zia in a minute.
EDIT: Money sent.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:04:00 -
[89]
When was the last time this guy was audited/fact checked?
Can you list your manufacturing alts for us in Eveboard so as to check the skills? for example if you link only 1 character with only 6 manufacturing slots then the IPO is a lie. for 20b worth of manufacturing to be used properly you would need 30-40 slots.
Can you post a screenshot of your current jobs?
Can you post a breakdown of how you calculate your profits from 'on costs',POS fuels, etc to JITA sell price.
His limited knowledge on manufacturing leads me to believe this is a ponzi. to the noobs who invested in this, these are the questions you ask before you stick your money in.
Now watch as he carefully dissmiss's my questions as a troll & says 'all my previous yada yada yada' this is the 'spin' that usually catches you youngsters.
If OP provides above information, then this monkey will be off his back. until then, get used to the smell. _________________________________________________
Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone. |
Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:29:00 -
[90]
Hi Jerry!
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:47:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Breaker77 on 20/06/2011 02:54:24
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
His limited knowledge on manufacturing leads me to believe this is a ponzi. to the noobs who invested in this, these are the questions you ask before you stick your money in.
I am still holding 5 billion in BPOs that are being researched found here
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487497
I also have another 2.4 billion in BPOs that are being researched.
I also have held 5 billion in BPOs that are completely different BPOs from the above collateral found here
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/1427907
I really don't know why anyone would buy 12.4 billion in BPOs and have them researched if they were not going to use them.
Then again, stranger things have happened.
edit:
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge When was the last time this guy was audited/fact checked?
Can you post a screenshot of your current jobs?
I still have his API but you are the first that has asked for an audit/fact check and quite frankly you are a forum troll with zero credibility. While you do bring up very valid points, I don't see any of the current investors (myself included) extremely worried or it would have been brought up before.
However is SH agrees, I can pull his API and verify that he has indeed been buying minerals and selling finished items along with pulling his running jobs from the API.
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Torain
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:57:00 -
[92]
Edited by: Torain on 20/06/2011 03:00:09
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge When was the last time this guy was audited/fact checked?
Previous SHSG History - 2011.03.04 16:50:00 Audit - 2010.10.08 17:57:00
Additional Bonds not listed in History. SHSG BPO Bond - Phase A Amount: 3 Billion ISK - 2011.03.12 00:16:00 (?) Repaid: 3.09 Billion ISK - 2011.04.10 03:26:00 (?) Breaker77 is researching the collateral.
SHSG BPO Bond - Phase B Amount: 5 Billion ISK - 2011.03.19 03:31:00 (?) Repaid: 5.3 Billion ISK - 2011.05.18 05:11:00 (?) Breaker77 is researching the collateral.
SHSG BPO Bond - Phase C Amount: 5 Billion ISK - 2011.03.27 14:29:00 (?) Repaid: ??? Billion ISK - ??? (Running - Due 2011.06.25) One Bond holder for the full amount. Banque. Breaker77 is researching the collateral.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:21:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Callean Drevus I might be interested in buying shares, though this would be a first for me. I'd be obliged if you can explain the process to me in more detail. I'm especially confused by how shares are tracked. Are they just numbers somewhere on a slip of paper, or represented somewhere in the EVE game mechanics?
Currently interested in 200 shares.
There are 2 kind of shares: regular and virtual.
You will get the regular ones, they are implemented in EvE and can be sent to people. When a payment is made you will see a message about having received a dividend out of a certain total.
Just as VV has explained. Also we know who has the shares as there is a shareholder tab in the corp wallet. The shares we issue to you will be found in YOUR personal wallet under the shares tab. This will show how many shares you own and what corp they are from.
Originally by: Arancar Australis Edited by: Arancar Australis on 19/06/2011 07:35:21 Please reserve 100 shares.
Is isk still to be sent to Zia Pow?
Zia Pow is preferred, but if you send it to me its ok ill see it and send the shares.
I issued the shares for everyone that has sent is so far, and updated the list.
I'll take time to read through Jerry's post and reply shortly.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:22:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Breaker77
I am still holding 5 billion in BPOs that are being researched found here
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1487497
I also have another 2.4 billion in BPOs that are being researched.
This actually raise's more alarms. If the BPOs are still being researched, then what is actually being produced?
The problem with these manufacturing bonds is that they are a very clever mask for a ponzi. as its pretty hard to tell if anything is actually being manufactured.
Originally by: Breaker77
I really don't know why anyone would buy 12.4 billion in BPOs and have them researched if they were not going to use them.
Then again, stranger things have happened.
What BPO's are you talking about? it stuns me that no-one has asked what is being produced in any detail or am i missing something. is it maybe that yourself breaker has jumped in thus satisfying the lesser knowns to jump in also? you said it yourself, your only in this due to holding his BPO's.
To answer your question, Researched BPO's sell well on the sell order forums. Take cap companent BPO's for e.g. rather than being 'used' & making maybe 5% profit above mineral cost (pending markets/reseller's/day traders) The BPO itself can be sold for more with less hassle, no hauling, no queues to watch etc.
point is, no-one knows whats being produced, in what quantity & at what risk.
Originally by: Breaker77
I still have his API but you are the first that has asked for an audit/fact check and quite frankly you are a forum troll with zero credibility. While you do bring up very valid points, I don't see any of the current investors (myself included) extremely worried or it would have been brought up before.
Your position is different to the general public as you have insurance/collateral for your part, i assume you would be asking similar questions after he gets that collateral back though
Originally by: Breaker77
However is SH agrees, I can pull his API and verify that he has indeed been buying minerals and selling finished items along with pulling his running jobs from the API.
Would be a good thing if you could would certainly help get this monkey of his back., if he has nothing to hide. a disclosure of trade/manufacturing alts would also help.
More importantly, the skillsheets are critical to this analysis, should i become an investor & not a 'useless troll' as you put (i assume your still butthurt at me for something) i would like to know if my isk is being used properly, with the correct skillset to match.
btw, thanks for the compliment. _________________________________________________
Misty McGinnity Doesn't have an iPhone. |
khai88
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:53:00 -
[95]
ISK send to Stealing Honest
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:03:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
This actually raise's more alarms. If the BPOs are still being researched, then what is actually being produced?
He has several other BPOs that I researched months ago with his earlier bonds. I would venture to say that he is building those and any others he has.
As for selling researched BPOs, It would be almost impossible to make a profit reselling these. Take his currently running Phase C bond. At 3% per month and running for 3 months a BPO would have to sell for 9% above NPC PLUS my fee on top of that. It can be done, but with the large number of "I do XXX so it's free!!" idiots in this game, the profit of reselling these is not much above NPC price. All I can really say is that they are not capital or capital related BPOs, which do usually increase in value when researched.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:13:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Breaker77 All I can really say is that they are not capital or capital related BPOs, which do usually increase in value when researched.
This makes little sense - BPO's do increase in value when researched. No-one would buy NPC blueprints in the first place if it really was possible to get a researched equivalent at the same price.
I think you need to do some investigating on this one Breaker, especially with the name of the offering changed to a scam meme. I would like to echo Jerry's line of questioning regarding the alt's and their capabilities as a good starting point.
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Roland Schlosser
THE EXOGEN CONSORTIUM
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:08:00 -
[98]
I'll take the remaining 200 shares
ISK sent |
Fuzzballl
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:37:00 -
[99]
Got my 50 Krazy Bannans Shares when do I get the "New" ones?
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.20 17:23:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: Breaker77 All I can really say is that they are not capital or capital related BPOs, which do usually increase in value when researched.
This makes little sense - BPO's do increase in value when researched. No-one would buy NPC blueprints in the first place if it really was possible to get a researched equivalent at the same price.
Have you ever wondered why people value researched BPOs at NPC price when doing collateral? If they were so easy and fast to sell for over NPC price we would value them higher.
Also I can buy ME 20 Raven BPOs on contract right now for 20 million ISK over NPC price. Thats over 1 1/2 months of research! Lets calculate the cost of POS fuel and the value of the 1 research slot that is being taken up by a character? Hmm looks like someone is selling at a loss!
Megathron is similar. Hell I can buy a Nyx for 16 billion with ME 1! Thats 2 months of research for 2 billion LESS than NPC!
Need I continue researching the profitability of selling researched BPOs? Ok so you do have me. Someone is trying to sell a ME0/PE0 hammerhead 1 BPO for 36 million (34.5 million over NPC). I'm sure some idiot will buy it in time.
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Fuzzballl
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:44:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Fuzzballl on 20/06/2011 18:46:24 That is odd, im a noob so ya know what tha means, but i guess maybe they got the uses they wanted out of them so then they sold them for a price that would sell quick(wish i had isk for one that was under npc market price) in reality it sounds kinda stupid to sell under npc price, but if they already made isk off it, then selling at a loss is still a profit, i guess. Maybe they are just nice, nevertheless remember im a noob and know nothing. Plz give me a berak about my post im a noob and am not trying to go into hardcore expert level discusions, that would be totally over my head just thowing the idea out. Selling for a loss still makes no since tho.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.20 19:08:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Fuzzballl in reality it sounds kinda stupid to sell under npc price, but if they already made isk off it, then selling at a loss is still a profit,
I would like to introduce you to my signature
People sell at a loss because they:
A. Mined minerals for free! B. Mined ice for POS fuel for free! C. Did PI for POS fuel for free! D. Ran a few missions so the PLEX they bought was free!
So the game time was free, the POS fuel was free, minerals were free, therefore all the ISK they made selling the item is pure profit!!
The majority of idiots industrialists in EVE believe the above.
Though you do bring up a good point. Sometimes people just want to get rid of something and don't really care what it sells for.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 23:30:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Breaker77 Have you ever wondered why people value researched BPOs at NPC price when doing collateral? If they were so easy and fast to sell for over NPC price we would value them higher.
Also I can buy ME 20 Raven BPOs on contract right now for 20 million ISK over NPC price. Thats over 1 1/2 months of research! Lets calculate the cost of POS fuel and the value of the 1 research slot that is being taken up by a character? Hmm looks like someone is selling at a loss!
Very true, there is alot of researched BPO's going for NPC price or slightly above & those are the ones i buy.
I usually get into a conversation with the person i buy the BPO's from, 99% of the time, its a newer player, Buying 4 plex cards of the website, buying some ships/stuff & dumping the rest of it in a BS BPO (there favorite faction), doing some research if any, building one or 2 BS's from it, then looking to sell it back on the market... but it cant be re-packaged.
Another scenario, one which i bought most of my Cap BPO library from was a guy that lived in a wormhole & built a few caps inside. he chose to buy vanilla prints instead of Copies. got bored in the WH & sold them below NPC price. *Shrug*
Point is, you have to understand, not everyone is as good with a pocket calculator/Spreadsheet as you or I. & not everyone cares that they are losing 20m in todays sell NOW buy NOW world.
Originally by: Breaker77 Need I continue researching the profitability of selling researched BPOs? Ok so you do have me. Someone is trying to sell a ME0/PE0 hammerhead 1 BPO for 36 million (34.5 million over NPC). I'm sure some idiot will buy it in time.
There is major Passive profits to be had in Researched BPO's You just have to be patient & chose the correct product line.
Take a look at Drake BPO's on the sell forums as an e.g. the same inpatience (You call idiots) of not wanting to wait for researching a vanilla print is driving that market.
If Edwin was still around im sure he would agree, he sold some Prints at unbelievable mark-ups. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.21 02:21:00 -
[104]
Bump still wanting a response from OP regarding this scam. _________________________________________________
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.21 03:02:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Roland Schlosser I'll take the remaining 200 shares
ISK sent
Shares Sent.
Originally by: Fuzzballl Got my 50 Krazy Bannans Shares when do I get the "New" ones?
In about 20 minutes from now. Was sending them last night, but in-law agro got me.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.21 03:17:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Stealing Honest ignorant rabble
i like the part where you avoided any & all questioning, continued issuing shares. _________________________________________________
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.06.21 03:44:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Stealing Honest ignorant rabble
i like the part where you avoided any & all questioning, continued issuing shares.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.21 04:59:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Jerry Pepridge on 21/06/2011 05:00:12 Hi brock!
rest assured, you & what you post is still relevant i promise.
EDIT: you must be mad tho, the hoops you had to jump thru to get your scam up and running, VS's this scam which he has made hardly any effort _________________________________________________
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Arancar Australis
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:49:00 -
[109]
Isk sent, sorry for the delay!
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.06.25 02:25:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Arancar Australis Isk sent, sorry for the delay!
Shares Sent
Zia/SH
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.28 03:27:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Bump still wanting a response from OP regarding this scam.
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Faith Clothos
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Posted - 2011.06.28 03:29:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Stealing Honest
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Callean Drevus I might be interested in buying shares, though this would be a first for me. I'd be obliged if you can explain the process to me in more detail. I'm especially confused by how shares are tracked. Are they just numbers somewhere on a slip of paper, or represented somewhere in the EVE game mechanics?
Currently interested in 200 shares.
There are 2 kind of shares: regular and virtual.
You will get the regular ones, they are implemented in EvE and can be sent to people. When a payment is made you will see a message about having received a dividend out of a certain total.
Just as VV has explained. Also we know who has the shares as there is a shareholder tab in the corp wallet. The shares we issue to you will be found in YOUR personal wallet under the shares tab. This will show how many shares you own and what corp they are from.
Originally by: Arancar Australis Edited by: Arancar Australis on 19/06/2011 07:35:21 Please reserve 100 shares.
Is isk still to be sent to Zia Pow?
Zia Pow is preferred, but if you send it to me its ok ill see it and send the shares.
I issued the shares for everyone that has sent is so far, and updated the list.
I'll take time to read through Jerry's post and reply shortly.
Stealing Honest has a funny idea of what shortly means.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:47:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Bump still wanting a response from OP regarding this scam.
and as per our mail, no i will not take 500m to stay out of your topic. it takes alot more than that to buy JP _________________________________________________
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:01:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge Bump still wanting a response from OP regarding this scam.
and as per our mail, no i will not take 500m to stay out of your topic. it takes alot more than that to buy JP
why not take 500mil then continue to posts?
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:14:00 -
[115]
Originally by: trance atlas why not take 500mil then continue to posts?
lurk moar
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FearNo Evil
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:50:00 -
[116]
Wondering if there are anymore shares left, I'm looking to buy about 200?
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Drantu
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Posted - 2011.06.29 06:19:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Drantu on 29/06/2011 06:19:00 I am also interested in buying shares if any are still available. Up to 400.
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.29 06:26:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Drantu Edited by: Drantu on 29/06/2011 06:19:00 I am also interested in buying shares if any are still available. Up to 400.
send isk to Jerry pepridge, ill send you some shares _________________________________________________
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.29 06:46:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: trance atlas why not take 500mil then continue to posts?
lurk moar
SO....
LRN24CHAN but a lrn24chan meme would also = lulz as in take SPACESHIP MONEY and lurk/troll more
so imconfusedwhyyouwouldnottaketheiskbutlurkandshiptoastmore.jpg also jelly and ponys for summer***s?
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.06.29 09:07:00 -
[120]
Originally by: trance atlas
SO....
LRN24CHAN but a lrn24chan meme would also = lulz as in take SPACESHIP MONEY and lurk/troll more
so imconfusedwhyyouwouldnottaketheiskbutlurkandshiptoastmore.jpg also jelly and ponys for summer***s?
New*** detected. _________________________________________________
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.29 17:05:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge
Originally by: trance atlas
SO....
LRN24CHAN but a lrn24chan meme would also = lulz as in take SPACESHIP MONEY and lurk/troll more
so imconfusedwhyyouwouldnottaketheiskbutlurkandshiptoastmore.jpg also jelly and ponys for summer***s?
New*** detected.
only new***s say new***.
...new***
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.29 19:31:00 -
[122]
Originally by: FearNo Evil Wondering if there are anymore shares left, I'm looking to buy about 200?
Originally by: Drantu I am also interested in buying shares if any are still available. Up to 400.
There will be a small batch of shares available after div payments at weeks end. Ill put you both down for reserved, you can confirm once the announcement is posted if you still want them.
This brings us to Months End Statement:
As we all know June has been a crazy month. However we are doing fair, and have used opportunity costs to pad sales as we said we would do from time to time. Estimated Div for moths end should be 45,000 Isk per Investor Share, with a total paid to investors of around 585,000,000 Isk.
Not the best month, but im happy overall as the last two weeks have been unusual.
I'll try to give more details with tomorrows div payments.
Thanks SH
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Bobby Jo Robertson
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Posted - 2011.06.29 20:22:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Bobby Jo Robertson on 29/06/2011 20:22:54 I hate these frickin' forum settings.
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.06.29 20:24:00 -
[124]
Awesome news SH. Keep on rockin'.
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Misaki Orahime
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:54:00 -
[125]
I would take some shares as well SH, 200, if you have any available after the div payments this week.
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.07.01 00:22:00 -
[126]
i would be willing to cash out 800 shares because i suck at market manipulation.
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.07.01 02:39:00 -
[127]
Originally by: trance atlas i would be willing to cash out 800 shares because i suck at market manipulation.
Trance, give me a shout and we'll work something out.
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Zielis Everseer
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Posted - 2011.07.01 03:05:00 -
[128]
Hello,
I would like to reserve 300 shares when you open up more please.
Thanks
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.07.01 03:16:00 -
[129]
so div payment?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.01 07:55:00 -
[130]
June Div Payment Paid. 45,000 Isk per investor share. There will be a post for shares sale tomorrow. Everyone who has posted requesting shares the last few days will be added to the reserved list.
Originally by: trance atlas i would be willing to cash out 800 shares because i suck at market manipulation.
No problem, ill send you a mail, and cash you out for those 800 shares if you wish.
Thanks SH
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:42:00 -
[131]
thanks for the isk
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:56:00 -
[132]
Got me some divs. Thanks SH.
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.07.01 21:15:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Ariana DeSoto on 01/07/2011 21:15:23 BTW, I sent the Krazy Banana shares back to Zia.
EDIT: Page 5 snipe.
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.07.01 23:00:00 -
[134]
sent ariana desoto my 2k shares and got my 2bil also sent krazy bannans to zia pow
thanks for the isk sh thanks for the easy transfer ariana .
hopefully i can buy some back in a coupl of months
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.07.01 23:00:00 -
[135]
Just hooked up with trance atlas ingame and bought 2k shares from him. TA thanks again for the sale.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.02 04:11:00 -
[136]
**Share Sale**
SHSG is offering shares for sale until DT sunday. There are a Maximum of 7000 shares available @ 1m Isk each.
The following people have shown interest in shares,
Interested List: FearNo Evil Drantu Misaki Orahime Zielis Everseer
Reserved List:
Thanks SH
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.07.02 04:42:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 02/07/2011 04:43:11 So you now have 11,000 shares issued altogether is that correct?
How many shares do you still hold?
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Zielis Everseer
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Posted - 2011.07.02 04:45:00 -
[138]
Hello,
ISK sent for 3000 shares
Thanks
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FearNo Evil
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Posted - 2011.07.02 05:36:00 -
[139]
Looks like I won't be able to buy shares, funds got tied up. Thanks anyway.
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Misaki Orahime
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.02 13:55:00 -
[140]
isk sent for 200 shares to SH
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.07.02 14:19:00 -
[141]
Looking to cash out 250 shares at 1 mil each due to biomassing this character in the near future.
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Brian Petersberg
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:18:00 -
[142]
I would like to buy 200 shares, have sent ISK to the Stealing Honest character.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.02 16:58:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Liberty Eternal Edited by: Liberty Eternal on 02/07/2011 04:43:11 So you now have 11,000 shares issued altogether is that correct?
How many shares do you still hold?
SHSG uses an SPV, we have 13000 shares issued public before this weekends sale. There are 7000 available for this weekends sale, and 30000 in reserve not for the public at this time. The shares hold no purpose except to pay dividends each month, and do not count towards valuation.
Originally by: Misaki Orahime isk sent for 200 shares to SH
Shares Sent
Originally by: Brian Petersberg I would like to buy 200 shares, have sent ISK to the Stealing Honest character.
Shares Sent
Originally by: FearNo Evil Looks like I won't be able to buy shares, funds got tied up. Thanks anyway.
No Worrys, thanks for your interest in SHSG, maybe next time eh?
Originally by: Galleus Oramara Looking to cash out 250 shares at 1 mil each due to biomassing this character in the near future.
If you cant sell them publicly by the end of this sale, i will buy them back at face value. Ill send you a Eve-Mail in a few minutes.
Originally by: Zielis Everseer Hello,
ISK sent for 3000 shares
Thanks
To Whom did you send Isk? I do not see a transfer at this time.
Ok im going to have some coffee, wake up & work some markets. If anyone wants to contact me, im reading the forums and in game today.
Thanks SH
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Zielis Everseer
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Posted - 2011.07.02 18:23:00 -
[144]
Sent funds to Stealing Honest.
I originaly sent it via contract, but seems you did not see it.
Thanks
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Brian Petersberg
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Posted - 2011.07.02 21:37:00 -
[145]
Shares received, thanks.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.02 21:41:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Zielis Everseer Sent funds to Stealing Honest.
I originaly sent it via contract, but seems you did not see it.
Thanks
Received 300m Isk.
300 shares sent.
Thanks SH
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Zielis Everseer
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Posted - 2011.07.02 21:42:00 -
[147]
Shares reeived
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.07.02 21:56:00 -
[148]
Originally by: I'm Stealing, Honest
SHSG uses an SPV, we have 13000 shares issued public before this weekends sale. There are 7000 available for this weekends sale, and 30000 in reserve not for the public at this time.
Which implies you will print more as and when you feel like it. Is there an upper limit to how many shares you will print?
Originally by: Stealing, Honest The shares hold no purpose except to pay dividends each month, and do not count towards valuation.
Then why are you advertising this as a share sale and calling it an IPO?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.02 22:31:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Liberty Eternal
Originally by: I'm Stealing, Honest
SHSG uses an SPV, we have 13000 shares issued public before this weekends sale. There are 7000 available for this weekends sale, and 30000 in reserve not for the public at this time.
Which implies you will print more as and when you feel like it. Is there an upper limit to how many shares you will print?
Originally by: Stealing, Honest The shares hold no purpose except to pay dividends each month, and do not count towards valuation.
Then why are you advertising this as a share sale and calling it an IPO?
If SHSG maintains 75%+ in hard assets vs shares issued like promised, and our business moved into a range that we needed to surpass 50b in public funds.... then yes i could print more shares.
However as stated 20b is the hard cap for this offering as it runs today. SHSG is not set up to manufacture at a rate higher than that, and there is no reason for us to grow the branch beyond that hard cap at this time.
To answer your second question, it is an Initial Public Offering for the manufacturing side of SHSG, and we use an SPV share system through Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment. However the SPV keeps no assets on hand except for div payment day each month. The spv is not set up to reflect pure valuation vs number of shares active.
SH
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.07.03 00:55:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Stealing Honest If SHSG maintains 75%+ in hard assets vs shares issued like promised, and our business moved into a range that we needed to surpass 50b in public funds.... then yes i could print more shares.
However as stated 20b is the hard cap for this offering as it runs today. SHSG is not set up to manufacture at a rate higher than that, and there is no reason for us to grow the branch beyond that hard cap at this time.
tl;dr yes, you'll issue new shares when you wish, and without upper limit.
Originally by: Stealing Honest To answer your second question, it is an Initial Public Offering for the manufacturing side of SHSG, and we use an SPV share system through Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment. However the SPV keeps no assets on hand except for div payment day each month. The spv is not set up to reflect pure valuation vs number of shares active.
Then why are you holding a "share sale" in which you issue 7,000 new shares? They are not shares of anything, and this is not an IPO.
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Misaki Orahime
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.03 04:51:00 -
[151]
Shares Received.
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Octavian Nihilith
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Posted - 2011.07.03 05:55:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Octavian Nihilith on 03/07/2011 05:56:40
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Drantu
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Posted - 2011.07.03 05:58:00 -
[153]
350m ISK sent to Stealing Honest
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.03 06:41:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Drantu 350m ISK sent to Stealing Honest
Shares Sent
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.04 03:12:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Galleus Oramara Looking to cash out 250 shares at 1 mil each due to biomassing this character in the near future.
Galleus Oramara has returned 250 shares and been refunded 250m Isk.
Thank you SH
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.07.04 06:26:00 -
[156]
Confirming receipt of isk. Thanks and good luck!
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.11 00:24:00 -
[157]
Roland Schlosser has has requested to cash out.
He has returned 300 shares , and been paid out 300m Isk.
SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.22 19:39:00 -
[158]
*July Mid Month*
I know this is a week late, but no bad news so all is good.
SH4U is on target for July. Nothing much has changed, and Div projection will meet expectations. There will be NO new shares for sale at this months end. Current shares in public circulation 13,500 @ 13.5b Isk. Current BPO's available 17b(NPC Valued).
Thats it in a nut shell folks. See you on the 31st for Div payments.
SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.07.22 20:52:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Stealing Honest *July Mid Month*
I know this is a week late, but no bad news so all is good.
SH4U is on target for July. Nothing much has changed, and Div projection will meet expectations. There will be NO new shares for sale at this months end. Current shares in public circulation 13,500 @ 13.5b Isk. Current BPO's available 17b(NPC Valued).
Thats it in a nut shell folks. See you on the 31st for Div payments.
SH
Awesome news SH. Keep on rockin'.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.23 13:23:00 -
[160]
Anything with "4U" in the title, no matter how seemingly legit, makes me react like Pavlov's dog to the dinner bell. I am giddily waiting for the scamwtfbbqfallout of this. This is how I can tell I have been hanging around in MD too long.
I am still confused on the "no more shares are being issued, anyone want to buy more shares" part. I never saw a response.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.24 06:59:00 -
[161]
We have had evemail request about re-selling shares that have been returned. There are 550 shares from returns this month that can be made available, if wanted.
These are NOT new shares, but returned shares open for resale.
SH
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Faith Clothos
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Posted - 2011.07.24 07:49:00 -
[162]
Originally by: OllieNorth Anything with "4U" in the title, no matter how seemingly legit, makes me react like Pavlov's dog to the dinner bell. I am giddily waiting for the scamwtfbbqfallout of this. This is how I can tell I have been hanging around in MD too long.
I am still confused on the "no more shares are being issued, anyone want to buy more shares" part. I never saw a response.
It's been more than foreshadowed that Stealing has had it/is bored/whatever.
All that we are missing is the exciting conclusion to this play. But you wouldn't want to spoil the climax, would you?
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Getix Kain
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Posted - 2011.07.27 21:50:00 -
[163]
Edited by: Getix Kain on 27/07/2011 21:56:08 I would be interested in buying 100 shares @ 1.000.000 ISK per share.
Please let me know if there are still shares avaible.
EDIT
Please EVEMAIL me, I cannot follow the forum all the times. ;)
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Plato Idari
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Posted - 2011.07.27 22:33:00 -
[164]
I would be willing to purchase 50 shares at 1mil isk per share if they are still available.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.28 06:50:00 -
[165]
Yes there are 525 re-issue shares available. Ill send you both an eve mail.
SH
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Plato Idari
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Posted - 2011.07.28 16:13:00 -
[166]
isk sent
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Getix Kain
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Posted - 2011.07.28 16:56:00 -
[167]
ISK had been sent.
Waiting for 50 shares.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.28 18:19:00 -
[168]
Shares have been sent.
Thanks SH
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Plato Idari
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Posted - 2011.07.28 18:31:00 -
[169]
Shares recieved
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morrosis
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Posted - 2011.07.29 03:48:00 -
[170]
Edited by: morrosis on 29/07/2011 03:47:58 Shares still availbe? If so I'll take 50 shares & 1 mil each
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.29 04:28:00 -
[171]
Originally by: morrosis Edited by: morrosis on 29/07/2011 03:47:58 Shares still availbe? If so I'll take 50 shares & 1 mil each
There are re-sell shares left. If you send isk with an eve-mail, ill send shares.
SH
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morrosis
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Posted - 2011.07.31 08:28:00 -
[172]
50 mil sent ^.^
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.01 03:40:00 -
[173]
July Div Will be paid out in 2 parts do to a slight delay with processing paperwork.
Part A has been sent 406m Isk @ 29,000 Isk per share.
Part B will come later in the week when i can clear up the paper snafu on my desk.
Thanks SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.08.01 04:41:00 -
[174]
Awesome job as always.
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morrosis
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Posted - 2011.08.01 08:38:00 -
[175]
payment arrived looking forward to more
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The Burninator
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.01 16:59:00 -
[176]
Any resell shares left still?
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Zielis Everseer
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Posted - 2011.08.01 21:42:00 -
[177]
Thanks for the payment
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:21:00 -
[178]
Originally by: The Burninator Any resell shares left still?
325 re-sell shares available at this time, however i have just agreed to buy-back 999 more, and those will also be available for resell soon.
SH
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Jerry Pepridge
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Posted - 2011.08.01 23:58:00 -
[179]
how is this scam progressing?
its funny that no-one has asked what he is actually manufacturing, being basically a nub needing forum threads to help him decide what to make, onto a full blown IPO.
its coz the OP follows the Hexx scam 'how to scam MD' thread?
vOv _________________________________________________
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.08.02 07:16:00 -
[180]
Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 02/08/2011 07:16:04
Originally by: Stealing Honest however i have just agreed to buy-back 999 more, and those will also be available for resell soon.
SH
As per our discussion SH, I am posting to confirm that I wish to liquidate my shareholding in SH4U.
Please send the isk to me and I will transfer the shares back.
KV
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.02 16:10:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Jerry Pepridge how is this scam progressing?
I agree with Misty, the longer this goes the more wtfbbq it's gonna be when it comes apart.
Also interesting to see KV jumping ship.
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Zia Pow
Krazy Banana
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Posted - 2011.08.03 00:44:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Khanid Voltar Edited by: Khanid Voltar on 02/08/2011 07:16:04
Originally by: Stealing Honest however i have just agreed to buy-back 999 more, and those will also be available for resell soon.
SH
As per our discussion SH, I am posting to confirm that I wish to liquidate my shareholding in SH4U.
Please send the isk to me and I will transfer the shares back.
KV
Isk Sent, along with mail.
Thanks SH
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Arukas Vhzar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.03 16:12:00 -
[183]
Requesting the number of shares available for repurchase.
Thanks
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.08.04 08:44:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Stealing Honest
Isk Sent, along with mail.
Thanks SH
Received and shares returned, many thanks
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.04 13:47:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Arukas Vhzar Requesting the number of shares available for repurchase.
Thanks
0 at the moment. Ill post if/when more become available.
SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.06 16:01:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Stealing Honest July Div Will be paid out in 2 parts do to a slight delay with processing paperwork.
Part A has been sent 406m Isk @ 29,000 Isk per share.
Part B will come later in the week when i can clear up the paper snafu on my desk.
Thanks SH
So i had a bit of a Welp moment.
Part B will now have to be sent out along with the next div cycle. This line was on its way to a loss, but having held for a bit, they are once again selling for profit.
Live and Learn as they say...
SH
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.13 15:44:00 -
[187]
So whats the deal with this
Quote: Liquidation Settlement from Krazy Banana From: Zia Pow Sent: 2011.08.13 05:39
Krazy Banana may have credited your account as part of a total payout of 100.0 ISK from funds generated from the liquidation of the corporation. The amount awarded is based upon the number of shares you hold, in relation to the total number of shares issued by the corporation.
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Zia Pow
Eve Phased Credit Bank
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Posted - 2011.08.13 18:41:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Breaker77 So whats the deal with this
Quote: Liquidation Settlement from Krazy Banana From: Zia Pow Sent: 2011.08.13 05:39
Krazy Banana may have credited your account as part of a total payout of 100.0 ISK from funds generated from the liquidation of the corporation. The amount awarded is based upon the number of shares you hold, in relation to the total number of shares issued by the corporation.
KZBA had no function anymore, after the shares had been switched over to SH4U. All shares holders have the SH4U shares and have been paid monthly divs for the last 2 periods under the new system. That freed me up to run the new bank.
Zia/SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.18 07:54:00 -
[189]
**Mid Month Update**
Another month of slow and steady. BPO stock is being upgraded. Hiccup from last month is clearing up nicely, and end of month looks average. We should meet expectations at months end.
SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.25 08:18:00 -
[190]
SH4U will be offering 3000 share buy back for this months end.
SH
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.08.26 00:10:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Stealing Honest SH4U will be offering 3000 share buy back for this months end.
SH
How many shares does SH4U have in public hands/your hands.
Will the shares be passed thru a 3rd party to ensure a safe transaction for investors? ___ iCandy Bonds
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.26 14:49:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Candy Oshea
Originally by: Stealing Honest SH4U will be offering 3000 share buy back for this months end.
SH
How many shares does SH4U have in public hands/your hands.
Will the shares be passed thru a 3rd party to ensure a safe transaction for investors?
We are down to 12,676 in the public domain at current count.
There is no need for a 3rd party. Ask for buyback, get Isk, send shares. It's pretty simple.
SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.08.31 16:41:00 -
[193]
Wallet flashy Time from SH4U.
Aug Div Paid 36,000 Isk per share.
SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.08.31 17:20:00 -
[194]
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.
Now I can buy fittings for my new Tengu.
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.08.31 19:34:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Stealing Honest SH4U will be offering 3000 share buy back for this months end.
SH
If this offer is still available I'd like to cashout 3000 shares. I saw some shiney new toys I need to buy.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.09.02 16:51:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Ariana DeSoto
Originally by: Stealing Honest SH4U will be offering 3000 share buy back for this months end.
SH
If this offer is still available I'd like to cashout 3000 shares. I saw some shiney new toys I need to buy.
Sorry i missed you're 2nd post. I'm working on your cashout now, you should see a flashy wallet later this evening.
SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.09.02 17:54:00 -
[197]
No worries bud, tonight is fine.
BTW, the BPOs are cooking nicely and I'll give you an update on the timeline when the next group finishes in a couple of days.
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