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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.25 17:24:00 -
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**Expansion Notice**
This is notification that SHSG will be expanding and offering additional shares starting may 31st after div payments are made for the month of may.
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Jean Baptiste Johansson
High-Tech Duct Tape DUCT TAPE UNION
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Posted - 2011.05.25 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest **Expansion Notice**
This is notification that SHSG will be expanding and offering additional shares starting may 31st after div payments are made for the month of may.
Put me down for some. We'll talk when I get out of this hell-hole.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.05.31 23:18:00 -
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May Dividends Paid
342,000,000 Isk @ 38,000 Isk per share
SH
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.05.31 23:32:00 -
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Confirming that my wallet went flashy flashy.
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Khanid Voltar
Accenture PLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 00:13:00 -
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Also confirming receipt; thanks SH
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 16:12:00 -
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As stated a few days ago, SHSG is offering an expansion for this Ipo.
We have 9000 shares available. This offer will be open for 48 hours. Shares are 1m isk ea. After 48 hours the expansion will be closed, we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.06.01 16:14:00 -
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I'd like to snap up 250 shares if I may?
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.06.01 16:16:00 -
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Put me down for 5000 shares.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Galleus Oramara I'd like to snap up 250 shares if I may?
Send Isk when you get a chance and ill transfer the shares.
SH
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:06:00 -
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Isk sent!
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:11:00 -
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Shares Sent Galleus. They are listed as Krazy Banana our SPV.
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Galleus Oramara
Caldari Financial Facilitation
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Posted - 2011.06.01 17:14:00 -
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Shares received, thank you.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.06.01 18:14:00 -
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You triple the size of your debt, adding an extra 9bil, after 20 days of operation and nobody asks any questions at all . Not meant to be a comment on you SH but basic investor diligence seems to have gone out of the window over the last few months.
For the sake of form then:
1) Is this your only current unsecured debt? 2) What is the highest amount of unsecured isk you have held so far? 3) Is there any cap on the amount you may seek to raise through expansions? 4) If the answer to 3) is no, would you consider waiving the early buyback fee for current investors who may at some point become concerned about a potentially infinitely increasing risk profile?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 You triple the size of your debt, adding an extra 9bil, after 20 days of operation and nobody asks any questions at all . Not meant to be a comment on you SH but basic investor diligence seems to have gone out of the window over the last few months.
For the sake of form then:
1) Is this your only current unsecured debt? 2) What is the highest amount of unsecured isk you have held so far? 3) Is there any cap on the amount you may seek to raise through expansions? 4) If the answer to 3) is no, would you consider waiving the early buyback fee for current investors who may at some point become concerned about a potentially infinitely increasing risk profile?
Hey Raw23, good questions.
1) Yes this is my only unsecured debt. 2) Give me a few minutes to look over my past bonds, and ipo and get a number for you. 3) Yes, hard cap is 20b. This is the amount that can be covered by current BPOs @ npc value, though they have all been researched.. This was the amount i had set as the cap during my discussion phases. 4) I am always open to my investors concerns. I am always open to talk, and adjust if needed.
Ill work on #3, and have your answer shortly.
SH
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Stabmeldys
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Posted - 2011.06.01 21:10:00 -
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Any shares avialable?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.01 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Stealing Honest on 01/06/2011 21:19:19
550 in hand 3000 for reservations. Ready when i get the vote/sanction bug work around --- soon
3550 total still open to claim.
SH
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Stabmeldys
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Posted - 2011.06.01 22:08:00 -
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Edited by: Stabmeldys on 01/06/2011 22:16:55
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.02 01:43:00 -
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Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest Note: Raw23 one thing i should point out is there has be much questioning and answering in Signatures, and SCC_Lounge about this expansion. I think that is why there isn't as much here atm.
Is there some website or other source where we can read logs from SCC_Lounge or Signatures if we were not logged in at the time?
If there's not, someone should build that: a chat log aggregator. If a bunch of people on an ad hoc basis are willing to supply their own chat logs for a channel, it should be a SMOP to whip up a website that presents 24-h-less-downtime coverage, right? Accepting logs only from API-validated pilots, cross-validating submissions, and only posting cross-validated texts might mitigate concerns about falsification / log poisoning.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.06.02 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest As stated a few days ago, SHSG is offering an expansion for this Ipo.
We have 9000 shares available. This offer will be open for 48 hours. Shares are 1m isk ea. After 48 hours the expansion will be closed, we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
9 Bil isk expansion?
Sorry if i missed this, but what is the sudden need for 9 extra bil, after such a short time running this venture?
Put bluntly, what will the additional capitol be getting used for?
Would it be a better idea to run a SHSG bond/loan & minimise both your risk and that of the investors.
Were the current shareholders aware of this IPO's end game goals/expansion stradegies in its entirety?
Originally by: Stealing Honest we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
I realize im quoting you out of context but this, but the statement above is a little worrisome. It tells me that there isn't a specific purpose for the expansion, its a very casual statement with regards to that amount of isk, can you please elaborate?
Thanks for your answers in advance.
Candy. ___ iCandy Bonds
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.06.02 13:01:00 -
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Thanks for the answers. I expect the investors were quiet because they were better informed than me .
Could you just clarify your third answer for me? Will the BPO value move with the addition of new funds, that is, will the cap potentially get nudged upwards through the purchase of new prints as you expand or are the funds being raised purely for materials?
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.02 15:12:00 -
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Good Morning All
Ill try to answer your questions while i have some coffee.
Originally by: Thoraemond
Is there some website or other source where we can read logs from SCC_Lounge or Signatures if we were not logged in at the time?
If there's not, someone should build that: a chat log aggregator. If a bunch of people on an ad hoc basis are willing to supply their own chat logs for a channel, it should be a SMOP to whip up a website that presents 24-h-less-downtime coverage, right? Accepting logs only from API-validated pilots, cross-validating submissions, and only posting cross-validated texts might mitigate concerns about falsification / log poisoning.
Thoraemond, i don't know.
Originally by: Candy Oshea
Originally by: Stealing Honest As stated a few days ago, SHSG is offering an expansion for this Ipo.
We have 9000 shares available. This offer will be open for 48 hours. Shares are 1m isk ea. After 48 hours the expansion will be closed, we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
9 Bil isk expansion?
Sorry if i missed this, but what is the sudden need for 9 extra bil, after such a short time running this venture?
Put bluntly, what will the additional capitol be getting used for?
Would it be a better idea to run a SHSG bond/loan & minimise both your risk and that of the investors.
Were the current shareholders aware of this IPO's end game goals/expansion stradegies in its entirety?
Originally by: Stealing Honest we will proceed with how ever many we sell.
I realize im quoting you out of context but this, but the statement above is a little worrisome. It tells me that there isn't a specific purpose for the expansion, its a very casual statement with regards to that amount of isk, can you please elaborate?
Thanks for your answers in advance.
Candy.
Candy
9b for this part yes, and the final phase will be 7b, for a total of 20b. This Ipo in my view is no more risky then my bonds running in the past. I have stated that we would maintain a min of 75% asset to debt, and atm even with this 9b expansion we are at 100%.
I have been clear from the beginning that this is a 20b project. The 1st phase was a test period, and as logistics and assets became ready we would ramp up to full operation. The funds from this IPO are used in manufacturing, and the trade associated with manufacturing.
I disagree with your second quote statement, that its casual. I am working on a 48 hour window to sell shares. I have stated how many are available in total, and the time window they will be on sale. Once the time is over, the sale is closed. If persons wish shares after the close they may buy from the market or wait for another sale.
Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 02/06/2011 13:10:56 Thanks for the answers. I expect the investors were quiet because they were better informed than me .
Could you just clarify your third answer for me? Will the BPO value move with the addition of new funds, that is, will the cap potentially get nudged upwards through the purchase of new prints as you expand or are the funds being raised purely for materials? I expect this was covered in the discussion phase but my connection is playing up and I'm finding evesearch a bit tricky to use.
Raw23
At the moment they the funds are being raised for materials, and trades that are part of manufacturing.
The nudging up part is a very good point. At the moment i have the ability to cover well over the 75% min asset to debt ration i promised, im around 100% atm even with the expansion. I see now also that i will be at or above 100% even when 20b cap is reached.
A nudge forward was not in my original plan. I would not feel comfortable nudging forward unless i can keep my 75% asset to debt ratio, and would prefer closer to 100%. I would probably need an investor vote, or at least let them sell out before offering a cap advance, but I'm not planning a nudge at this time.
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Ariana DeSoto
Howling Penguin Research Laboratories
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Posted - 2011.06.02 15:58:00 -
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When the vote bug is fixed I'll take the last 1550 shares.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.06.02 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Candy
9b for this part yes, and the final phase will be 7b, for a total of 20b. This Ipo in my view is no more risky then my bonds running in the past. I have stated that we would maintain a min of 75% asset to debt, and atm even with this 9b expansion we are at 100%.
I have been clear from the beginning that this is a 20b project. The 1st phase was a test period, and as logistics and assets became ready we would ramp up to full operation. The funds from this IPO are used in manufacturing, and the trade associated with manufacturing.
I disagree with your second quote statement, that its casual. I am working on a 48 hour window to sell shares. I have stated how many are available in total, and the time window they will be on sale. Once the time is over, the sale is closed. If persons wish shares after the close they may buy from the market or wait for another sale.
I agree with Raw23, perhaps your investors are better informed than me
Ok i understand now, you have tested the waters of your business with a small portion *phase 1* & now are ready to go "all in" with it, as the numbers/margins your business is creating is meeting your expectations.
As for the 'casual' thing its simply my interpretation of you wording, i suspect information im not privy to was given to investors/scc-/signitures channel at the beginning of your phase 2 expansion. Perhaps a language barrier or some such.
Good luck with it & thanks very much for your answers. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.03 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: trance atlas Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
I have the shares set aside for you.
SH
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.06.03 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
Originally by: trance atlas Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
I have the shares set aside for you.
SH
even thou your name suggest you will take my isk at some point isk sent
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.03 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Stealing Honest on 03/06/2011 17:50:53
Originally by: trance atlas Edited by: trance atlas on 03/06/2011 15:17:44
Originally by: Stealing Honest
Originally by: trance atlas Eh I want to invest so when I get home i will reserve 2 bil worth of shares
I have the shares set aside for you.
SH
even thou your name suggest you will take my isk at some point
edit 2 bil sent to stealing honest
Never judge a book by its cover
Shares sent.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.12 04:37:00 -
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**Attention Investors**
We will be having a share exchange on 6/18 and will discontinue KZBA shares.
We will be changing the spv to Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment [SH4U]
All investors will receive new shares on the 18th.
Thank You
Stealing Honest CEO SHSG
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.12 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Stealing Honest
We will be changing the spv to Stealing Honest Manufacturing Investment [SH4U]
I hope this is a joke.
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Brock Nelson
Caldari T2 Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.06.12 05:58:00 -
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Good lord...what have I done?
Warning: This person is a scammer and should not be trusted |
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