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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
210
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:48:00 -
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So lets say you are NOT using a macro.
You hit your modules and go afk until the cycle is done.
Yet recently went emo in a dev blob about "afk missioning" with drones is not acceptable game play because you are not actually present at your computer
Whats the deal? Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
baltec1
Bat Country
2038
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:51:00 -
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CCP will most likely have to do something about ice mining macks. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1278
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:52:00 -
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If CCP decides they don't like AFK ice mining, they better make it less hazardous to the human brain. |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2636
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:53:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:CCP will most likely have to do something about ice mining macks. And if they don't, the rest of us will.
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Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
530
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:53:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:So lets say you are NOT using a macro.
You hit your modules and go afk until the cycle is done.
Yet recently went emo in a dev blob about "afk missioning" with drones is not acceptable game play because you are not actually present at your computer
Whats the deal? Yeah....
I am afraid mining is just that dull. Proactive gaming is limited to guessing when the cycle should be cut off if the asteroid is nearing completion, so you don't waste time sucking vacuum.
Entertainment sometimes provided by PvP ships showing up and attempting to gank. Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |
Sexy Cakes
Poasting
91
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:54:00 -
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If you read the post about that afk plexing it was an extreme circumstance and the guy was doing it 23/7 with one activation cycle a day.
We're not talking about a cycle or 2 on an ice miner here.
Don't be a drama queen. Not today spaghetti. |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
210
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Posted - 2012.09.05 18:59:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:If you read the post about that afk plexing it was an extreme circumstance and the guy was doing it 23/7 with one activation cycle a day.
We're not talking about a cycle or 2 on an ice miner here.
Don't be a drama queen.
So if I work 12 hour shifts in an office and I can have even running in the background, alt tabbing back every however minutes it is to reactive then alt tabbing away isent an extreme case of afk mining? I would say it is and believe it, people do that.
Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
483
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:02:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:So lets say you are NOT using a macro.
You hit your modules and go afk until the cycle is done.
Yet recently went emo in a dev blob about "afk missioning" with drones is not acceptable game play because you are not actually present at your computer
Whats the deal?
The specific "afk missioning" the dev was referring to had unlimited spawns of ships, so a pilot could leave their domi out for 24hrs straight and farm bounties....
Ice mining is the closest comparison, where you still have to return to your keyboard once per hour and take stuff to station.... also, with the diminishing price of ice, it's not nearly as profitable...
But you do bring up a good point.... Ice mining probably needs a mechanic change, where ice roids get mined out, so you need to retarget your mining lasers a little more frequently... |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1278
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:03:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Sexy Cakes wrote:If you read the post about that afk plexing it was an extreme circumstance and the guy was doing it 23/7 with one activation cycle a day.
We're not talking about a cycle or 2 on an ice miner here.
Don't be a drama queen. So if I work 12 hour shifts in an office and I can have even running in the background, alt tabbing back every however minutes it is to reactive then alt tabbing away isent an extreme case of afk mining? I would say it is and believe it, people do that. Thats not extreme at all.
Extreme would be activate miners, leave for 23 hours, and come back with a ton of ore. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
1731
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:04:00 -
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James 315 wrote:baltec1 wrote:CCP will most likely have to do something about ice mining macks. And if they don't, the rest of us will.
Hilarious how you say the rest of us will do something about it...when all you do yourself is whine. What are you exactly going to do about it? Whine more? |
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Volar Kang
Quartz Research Strategic Alliance
28
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:08:00 -
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James 315 wrote:And if they don't, the rest of us will.
I know you think you are on some Jihad but trust me, you dont speak for the "rest of us" James.
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Din Chao
Seraphim Initiative Paradox Alliance
81
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:18:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Sexy Cakes wrote:If you read the post about that afk plexing it was an extreme circumstance and the guy was doing it 23/7 with one activation cycle a day.
We're not talking about a cycle or 2 on an ice miner here.
Don't be a drama queen. So if I work 12 hour shifts in an office and I can have even running in the background, alt tabbing back every however minutes it is to reactive then alt tabbing away isent an extreme case of afk mining? I would say it is and believe it, people do that. I believe that when you don't touch your keyboard between hitting F1 and switching to the next target, you are AFK. People do that.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
889
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:32:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:So lets say you are NOT using a macro.
You hit your modules and go afk until the cycle is done.
Yet recently went emo in a dev blob about "afk missioning" with drones is not acceptable game play because you are not actually present at your computer
Whats the deal?
OMG, not even a potty-break ????
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Jason Xado
Xado Industries
25
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:38:00 -
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Keep in mind that AFK missioning is an ISK faucet where as AFK mining is not. |
Rats
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
188
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:39:00 -
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James 315 wrote:baltec1 wrote:CCP will most likely have to do something about ice mining macks. And if they don't, the rest of us will.
Yeah your bumping exploits really stop ppl mining.
Tal
-áI Fought the Law, and the Law Won... -áTalon Silverhawk-á |
baltec1
Bat Country
2042
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:41:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote:Keep in mind that AFK missioning is an ISK faucet where as AFK mining is not.
AFK mining does however result in lower mineral prices. Good for us bad for miners. |
Renan Ruivo
Irmandade Vera Cruz Alliance
860
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:43:00 -
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It can't be an exploit if people are using and doing stuff exactly as CCP designed them to be used. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
ashley Eoner
59
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:46:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Sexy Cakes wrote:If you read the post about that afk plexing it was an extreme circumstance and the guy was doing it 23/7 with one activation cycle a day.
We're not talking about a cycle or 2 on an ice miner here.
Don't be a drama queen. So if I work 12 hour shifts in an office and I can have even running in the background, alt tabbing back every however minutes it is to reactive then alt tabbing away isent an extreme case of afk mining? I would say it is and believe it, people do that. I know people who basically do that with their job. No I don't mean akf eve but pretty much AFK the work they are supposed to be doing in the office..
Instead of whining about something how about you try to provide some "solutions"? It's quite a lot more difficult to decide how to solve the problem then whine about something.
Quote:I believe that when you don't touch your keyboard between hitting F1 and switching to the next target, you are AFK. People do that. THat's mission/plex running summed up in this game. I target some stuff hit f1 and then wait for something to happen. |
Renan Ruivo
Irmandade Vera Cruz Alliance
860
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:50:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:Quote:I believe that when you don't touch your keyboard between hitting F1 and switching to the next target, you are AFK. People do that. THat's mission/plex running summed up in this game. I target some stuff hit f1 and then wait for something to happen.
I'd say that's big-fleet operations 101. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1124
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:50:00 -
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Oh good, this thread is back.
OP, your first job is to go back and read the entire previous thread.
Go now.
You have no business on this topic until you read that one.
GO!
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
4742
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:52:00 -
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Yes because as soon as the cycle ends and/or roid depletes or the cargo is full.... you magically can store more ore and earn money.
Ridiculous topic is ridiculous.
/c
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Renan Ruivo
Irmandade Vera Cruz Alliance
860
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Posted - 2012.09.05 19:54:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Yes because as soon as the cycle ends and/or roid depletes or the cargo is full.... you magically can store more ore and earn money.
Ridiculous topic is ridiculous.
/c
Good gracious, the OP has been sarcastically facepalmed by Chribba.
OP should go hide in a hole. The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die. |
Evei Shard
116
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:13:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:
I am afraid mining is just that dull. Proactive gaming is limited to guessing when the cycle should be cut off if the asteroid is nearing completion, so you don't waste time sucking vacuum.
That's what Excel is for. Profit favors the prepared |
Ensign X
152
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:40:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:James 315 wrote:baltec1 wrote:CCP will most likely have to do something about ice mining macks. And if they don't, the rest of us will. Hilarious how you say the rest of us will do something about it...when all you do yourself is whine. What are you exactly going to do about it? Whine more?
He does more than just whine. He bumps miners all day long. Check his killboard for proofs. Wait... there is no proof. I guess we'll just have to take his word that he's out there "making a difference". |
Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:44:00 -
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(To OP) Actually reading a blog before posting might assist you in the future. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
975
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Posted - 2012.09.05 20:56:00 -
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There is also the ISBoxer issue. It looks like there are several barge swarms that are most likely ISBoxer run. That is, its one player controlling 10 or more ships all at once with the aid of ISBoxer. This is legal as the commands still are triggered by a player.
Player selects undock, ISBoxer clones the command, tells all ships to undock. Player tells ship to warp to the top bookmark (all the clients have a different top BM), ISBoxer tells all ships to warp to the top BM. Player tells ship to target the top item in the overview (which is set to ice), ISBoxer has all ships target nearest ice roid. Player turns on ice miners, ISBoxer tells all ships to turn on ice miners.
Half an hour later:
Player tells ship to dock, select all cargo and move to items. ISBoxer clones the commands.
Cycle repeats.
The profit from this will drop as the ice market gets glutted. That is quite different from afking complexes. But a low ice price also makes ice mining not a viable career unless you get 10 accounts and ISBoxer.
CCP: Maybe ISBoxer command cloning needs to be added to the list of things that are "patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play". http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
25
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:24:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP: Maybe ISBoxer command cloning needs to be added to the list of things that are "patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play".
No. Multiboxing is a valid form of play in Eve Online.
And BTW, IsBoxer facilitates a lot more than just ice mining. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
975
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Posted - 2012.09.05 21:39:00 -
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Jason Xado wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:
CCP: Maybe ISBoxer command cloning needs to be added to the list of things that are "patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play".
No. Multiboxing is a valid form of play in Eve Online. And BTW, IsBoxer facilitates a lot more than just ice mining. Sure, multiboxing I got no issue with. But having all clients commanded simultaneously with the aid of software? CCP has said "OK". But in light of whats happening at ice fields, maybe that decision needs to be reconsidered. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Arec Bardwin
Perkone Caldari State
719
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Posted - 2012.09.05 22:31:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote: Sure, multiboxing I got no issue with. But having all clients commanded simultaneously with the aid of software? CCP has said "OK". But in light of whats happening at ice fields, maybe that decision needs to be reconsidered.
Since this type of gameplay (multiboxing several ice miners with ISboxer) concerns you that much, may we assume you have chosen Ice mining as your major profession then?
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Pipa Porto
867
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Posted - 2012.09.05 22:42:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:If CCP decides they don't like AFK ice mining, they better make it less hazardous to the human brain.
Like ratting's any better. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
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