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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.11.07 08:57:00 -
[91]
I have a wheelie bin has more DPS than a phoon.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2005.11.07 09:50:00 -
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Im getting a phoon soon, about 2mil skill points here, need a good pve setup for 0.0 rats and 7/10 complex.
with eve ship fitting tool I currently planing this setup:
4x1400mm
3xcruise
1xmed nos
4xcap recharger I
3xrcu
1600mm plate
L armor rep
energizedd adaptive
energized reactive
Im open for suggestion but I want mid/long range, I dont like close range. And I need something against those damn web scramble frigs (can controlle 7 drones, wich one to use, small, med, heavy?)
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:04:00 -
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This is all prepatch, of course, so some of it wont apply for long.
First, dont even think about level 7 complexes with 2 mil skillpoints :P
Second, your setup needs to be a bit more focussed. Pick a range and stick to it. 'Mid' is not a range that exists in Eve :P
Third, long range setups are pretty much bump in deadspace. They tend to be vulnerable to bad warpin spawns, and you may gimp your setup trying to compensate for this.
But anyway. Vs Angels, try:
4x 1400mm(Nuclear/EMP), 3x Cruise(EXP), 1x Rocket(Defenders)
Sensor Booster x2, Tracking Computer, Webber
Large Rep, EXP Hardener, Kin Hardener, 3x Gyro, 1x BCU
10 Heavy Drones, 10 Med Drones
It's very janky, but it does what you want it to be able to do. Webber is purely for helping your drones kill inties. Nuclear ammo is for sniping smaller ships at very long range. Defenders will cut down on those horrid angel missile bombardments. The crappy tank will mean you can survive deadspace warpin spawns as long as you're careful/lucky/something.
Really, I dont recommend artillery for missions :)
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:09:00 -
[94]
I would say Fusion for angels
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:14:00 -
[95]
Never made my mind up on that issue....a lot of angels do repair their shields, too. Fusion takes ages to get through shields. And the explosive damage of EMP is pretty decent. But then fusion gains you some range, and obviously does speed things up i nthe armour stages.
~Indecisiveness~
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:34:00 -
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Actually, Fusion goes through Angel shields like butter. They only harden for em and thermal if Im not mistaken. Granted that might have changed, tho I dont see why it would.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Event Horizon
Biomass fears me.
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turnschuh
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:37:00 -
[97]
thanks for your input but your setup is not fitable, to less power. anyway if I cannot solo 7/10 complex, how is the phoon more use, tank or damage?
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:39:00 -
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tank. Damage on a phoon is never its strongpoint.
In fact it doesn't really have a strongpoint, apart from the ability to do just about everything.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2005.11.07 10:42:00 -
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Yup, Tar Om is right...it doesnt really have a strongpoint. Except maybe its dronebay. If it did have a proper strongpoint though, it would be tanking.
Given dronebay+tanking, plus good speed for a battleship, phoon lends itself to being a close range ship.
There's tons of good close range phoon setups around. And they're a hell of a lot easier to fit with low skills (ie: when you dont have adv wep upgrades 5) than anything that uses artillery is.
As far as fusion vs angel shields goes....it still seems slower with fusion. Maybe I'm wrong. I never did any real testing, or saw any real numbers. I'll use fusion some more and find out :)
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Liam Fremen
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Posted - 2005.11.07 11:18:00 -
[100]
 Originally by: turnschuh
thanks for your input but your setup is not fitable, to less power. anyway if I cannot solo 7/10 complex, how is the phoon more use, tank or damage?
if u find a way for solo a 7/10 angel complex give me a shout ^_^
7/10 is not a easy complex dude...
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Dead Inside
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Posted - 2005.11.20 12:16:00 -
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You guys seem to be missing the point of a typhoon.
For lvl3 and 4 missions the ship rocks, ive flown most BS's and nothing comes close, the mis of guns and missiles mean there isnt anything it connt deal with...
On top of that it as a very, very strong armour tank..
oh yeah it's fast too for a BS.
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Jet Collins
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Posted - 2006.02.03 21:11:00 -
[102]
can I have some RMR close range PvE set ups thanks.
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.02.03 22:43:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 03/02/2006 22:43:53
Originally by: Jet Collins
can I have some RMR close range PvE set ups thanks.
Eh this is my new idea. Dunno if it will replace my current setup but it might see some action.
This is PvP will post PvE in a moment.
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [1551 | 28] Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II
> [1551 | 28] Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II
> [1551 | 28] Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II
> [1551 | 28] Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II
> [2000 | 48] Heavy 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon I
> [2000 | 48] Heavy 'Ghoul' Energy Siphon I
> [ 49 | 29] Assault Missile Launcher II
> [ 49 | 29] Assault Missile Launcher II
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 688 | 50] 100MN Afterburner II
> [ 1 | 22] Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
> [ 1 | 22] Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
> [ 1 | 27] Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [2000 | 46] Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
> [2000 | 46] Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
> [ 500 | 28] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
> [ 1 | 44] Armor Explosive Hardener II
> [ 1 | 44] Armor Kinetic Hardener II
> [ 1 | 44] Armor Thermic Hardener II
> [ 0 | 3] Capacitor Power Relay I / Gyro II / Tracking Enhancer II
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.02.03 22:48:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 03/02/2006 22:49:12
PvE :
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [ 1 | 60] Improved Cloaking Device II
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 0 | 15] Reactor Control Unit II
> [ 173 | 28] Medium Armor Repairer II
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Twin blade
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Posted - 2006.02.04 01:22:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 03/02/2006 22:49:12
PvE :
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [ 1 | 60] Improved Cloaking Device II
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 0 | 15] Reactor Control Unit II
> [ 173 | 28] Medium Armor Repairer II
Why not just use civi mod's if you want to set the ship up that badly go all the way.
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Sky Hunter
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Posted - 2006.02.04 01:55:00 -
[106]
Just to think about a tank, i never tryed this one, and i dont think it will even fit but here goes:
4x Dual 425 IIs, 4x Nosfs
1x Sensor Booster II, 1x Webber, 1x Disruptor, 1x Cap Recharger II/AB II
2x Large Reps T2 or Accomods, 3x Hardener, 2x Plate
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:15:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Lucian Alucard on 04/02/2006 02:18:44
my kit for a phoon is
4 diminishing nos
4 t2 800mm auto cannons
1 named 100mn ab
10km weby
warp scrambler
target painter
Rcu2
t2 Energised adaptive nano
Dark Blood Kinetic Armor Hardener
Dark Blood Thermal Armor Hardener
2 t2 Large Armor Reps
1 Cap Relay
Also use 2 webby/nos drones and 3 t2 beserkers or hammerheads,you will be a force to reckon with and keeping a set of Ewar drones handy is sujested as well.
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"Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever." ~Aristophane
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:20:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Lucian Alucard
my kit for a phoon is
4 diminishing nos
4 t2 800mm auto cannons
1 named 100mn ab
10km weby
warp scrambler
target painter
Rcu2
t2 Energised adaptive nano
Dark Blood Kinetic Armor Hardener
Dark Blood Thermal Armor Hardener
2 t2 Large Armor Reps
1 Cap Relay
Does that even fit?
Hail Ammo - Remove Speed penality!
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:23:00 -
[109]
Originally by: KilROCK
Originally by: Lucian Alucard
my kit for a phoon is
4 diminishing nos
4 t2 800mm auto cannons
1 named 100mn ab
10km weby
warp scrambler
target painter
Rcu2
t2 Energised adaptive nano
Dark Blood Kinetic Armor Hardener
Dark Blood Thermal Armor Hardener
2 t2 Large Armor Reps
1 Cap Relay
Does that even fit?
Yes,I have max fitting skills including Adv. weps upgrades 5,the cpu tho is damn tight and thats why i use alot of named mods,to reduce the cpu useage,the big fitting issuses come from the nos and armor reps,you may have to use Vestements instead of T2 since i dumped alot into implants and so forth to make this thing work
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"Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever." ~Aristophane
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:26:00 -
[110]
I think you are full of **** to be honest.
Next time you want to take a setup straight out of your ass, Like most people do on this forum. Please don't.
With 4x 800mm II and 4 Heavy dim.
With Advanced Weapon upgrade 5, Shove a RCU II + 100mn AB and you got only 1423PG left for your '2x large armor rep II'.
So yea, Keep dreaming Lucian.
Hail Ammo - Remove Speed penality!
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:31:00 -
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first off i just checked it mate and i will admit im wrong,i don't have an ab on i have a tracking comp,secondly ur right about the reps they aren't t2,i typed my set up off the top of my head with out looking at it to double check in game so i will edit the post i made,don't have to be an ass about it i was wrong i haven't sat in my phoon in like a month since i ditched it up in lonetrek since its such a pain to run missions and npc with the thing
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"Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever." ~Aristophane
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:35:00 -
[112]
I can be an ass.
You don't go in topics for setups 'posting' setups of ships you havn't flown for months and just make up a setup straight out of the blue.
Hail Ammo - Remove Speed penality!
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:40:00 -
[113]
gp ur absolutely right and i myself would not have posted unless i thought i was right and the re edit of my post does fit for me so unless i have a UI bug ((Which wouldn't be the first time for me,ie Damage Control mods showing resistances that aren't there)),now as it stands i went back and checked because doubt was raised by you and you proved a point which is to not post unless ur bloody sure thats the set up ur using
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"Quick, bring me a beaker of wine,that I may wet my mind and say something clever." ~Aristophane
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.02.04 02:42:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Lucian Alucard
you proved a point which is to not post unless ur bloody sure thats the set up ur using
Or ill smack you on forum, and it will make me feel superior and almighty evil. Nuh uh. 
Hail Ammo - Remove Speed penality!
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.02.04 05:28:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 04/02/2006 05:31:51
Originally by: Twin blade
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 03/02/2006 22:49:12
PvE :
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [ 1 | 60] Improved Cloaking Device II
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 0 | 15] Reactor Control Unit II
> [ 173 | 28] Medium Armor Repairer II
Why not just use civi mod's if you want to set the ship up that badly go all the way.
LOL! Have you ever even stepped foot in a Typhoon at my skill level? This is single handedly the best NPC fitting you can fit for the bonii. Please learn how to NPC with matari before you talk trash.
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.02.04 05:31:00 -
[116]
Originally by: KilROCK
Edited by: KilROCK on 04/02/2006 02:37:55
I can be an ass.
You don't go in topics for setups 'posting' setups of ships you havn't flown for months and just make up a setup straight out of the blue.
Next time, Check ship, check Fitting, Post.
And oh, Maybe use quickfit if you're not familiar with the ship anymore..
And oh, Your setup doesn't EVEN fit with 2 Large 'acco' and without the AB. So yea. 
Man keep it clean KilR.
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.02.04 06:47:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 04/02/2006 05:31:51
Originally by: Twin blade
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 03/02/2006 22:49:12
PvE :
HIGH-SLOTS :
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> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [3360 | 35] 1400mm Howitzer Artillery II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [1234 | 49] Cruise Missile Launcher II
> [ 1 | 60] Improved Cloaking Device II
MED-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 10] Sensor Booster II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
> [ 1 | 35] Tracking Computer II
LOW-SLOTS :
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> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 30] Gyrostabilizer II
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 1 | 29] 'Accord' I Core Compensation (WCS)
> [ 0 | 15] Reactor Control Unit II
> [ 173 | 28] Medium Armor Repairer II
Why not just use civi mod's if you want to set the ship up that badly go all the way.
LOL! Have you ever even stepped foot in a Typhoon at my skill level? This is single handedly the best NPC fitting you can fit for the bonii. Please learn how to NPC with matari before you talk trash.
how come you don't use autos +seige and a armour tank, worked damn well for me
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who'syodaddy
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Posted - 2006.02.04 10:34:00 -
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Edited by: who''syodaddy on 04/02/2006 10:35:43
no grid to decently tank after siege + autocannons.
sorry i like her npc setup. always big range (phoon optimal allows you to use EMP l from around 100 km), decent damage thanks to the gyros , and safety for 0.0 with the stabs and the cloack.
Sure theres ships that do more damage from that range, but thats not a bad setup at all.....for 0.0 pve... makes alot of money :)
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SiLeNCel2
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Posted - 2006.02.04 10:42:00 -
[119]
Originally by: SiLeNCel2
i got my self a phoon yesterday. at first i wanted to buy a tempest, but since i started as caldari, i¦ve chosen the phoon cause it profits from higher missile skills and u can possibly shield tank it for missions.
i went for a PvP setup, it¦s a little bit of a sniper (it can hit @ ~160km with my skills + sensor boosters, need more electronics...) and it doesnt tank. just mwd to keep distance and wcs (yeah, wcs on this one) to get away if everything goes wrong.
and yes, i can fit all those things, tried multiple variantions.
4x 1400mm howitzer, 4x cruise launcher
1x mwd, 2x sensor booster, 1x tracking comp/cap recharger
1x gyro/tracking enhancer, 1x tracking enhancer, 1x rcu, 2x pdu, 2x wcs
and drones, of course!
i was wondering if 1-2 sensor dampers would work on a phoon at let¦s say +120km and what skills you would need to be effective at that range. i don¦t know much about EW...
from another phoon thread... comments, please!
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.02.04 10:58:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Twin blade
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
<Long range NPC>
Why not just use civi mod's if you want to set the ship up that badly go all the way.
That setup works wonders. Trust me. I have a similar setup on an Apoc for blood hunting (i.e. long range and nearly no tank), and it works damned well.
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
how come you don't use autos +seige and a armour tank, worked damn well for me
It's different setups. When you go for close range with Siege and 800mm you are forced to have a strong tank. The rats tend to go down a little faster, but it's also easier to get stuck.
It's not the best thing to do, hunting rats in 0.0 close ranged if there's a lot of roaming hostiles, to boot. They tend to warp in close in the belt, and if you also sit close chances are you'll be scrambled before you can react.
A long range setup doesn't do as much damage, but you don't have to worry about a tank. You also get to lock and shoot faster, essentially enabling you to kill those pesky frigates much faster, before you need drones on them.
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