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Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:22:00 - [1] Downtime is now expected to last until 23:30 UTC due to the length of database updates. ************ "I can not tell you what particular weapon will be used in World War III, but I can tell you what will be used in World War IV. Rocks." - Albert Einstein
okst666	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:22:00 - [2] Edited by: okst666 on 21/06/2011 20:25:20 CCP ** you! I go to bed! edit: instead of double the power of your hardware....double the hardware...make patches over MONTHS if you want, and once finished switch the servers and let us play... This was the most boring day of the last 15 years for me...and no...fapping does not help...google allready called me and asked if there were new **sites...
Ugly Arkaral	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:23:00 - [3] Did they say 23.30 on which day?
Cramble	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:24:00 - [4] same !
Lara Sun	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:24:00 - [5] Edited by: Lara Sun on 21/06/2011 20:26:07 Ive said it before and I'll say it again, it may say the time but it doesnt tell you which day.. Originally by: Ugly Arkaral Did they say 23.30 on which day? Plagiarism! On teh internet?
Tyria Sharken Minmatar Forging Industries Silent Infinity	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:24:00 - [6] Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. --------------------------------------------- "Only two great species on this planet take part in massive, organized warfare. Men, and ants."
PresidentScrewb	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:25:00 - [7] Edited by: PresidentScrewb on 21/06/2011 20:25:41 Goodnight everybody, Ashame CCP you'd better get it right the first time! :) A month compensation wouldnt be bad, would it?
Borun Tal Minmatar Just Abide	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:25:00 - [8] I have 0530 (6/22) in the pool and the skill queues are full, so it's all good. :)
Ugly Arkaral	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Tyria Sharken Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. It is now 20.24 UTC, if that helps
Stignos	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 - [10] Really, someone around here is still surprised this would happen? CCP can take 2 whole days for all I care, my skills are training.
Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Tyria Sharken Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. GMT-Greenwich Mean Time UTC - Universal Time code. One and the same. Just like B.C is now B.C.E. Before Current Era. ************ "I can not tell you what particular weapon will be used in World War III, but I can tell you what will be used in World War IV. Rocks." - Albert Einstein
KamikazeBrAzIl Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:27:00 - [12] Edited by: KamikazeBrAzIl on 21/06/2011 20:28:21 We are all CCP puppets.. they ALWAYS lie about downtime length edit: bad english is bad
Anniken Geirsdottir Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:27:00 - [13] Edited by: Anniken Geirsdottir on 21/06/2011 20:29:55 UTC is GMT Planned ahead though and reset my PI nodes to a 2day cycle, I shall sleep untroubled.
sonofahb	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:27:00 - [14] Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. im eastern time zone. we are 4 hours apart from eve time so thats about 7:30 for us.
Gillaboo	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:27:00 - [15] It's GMT...Greenwich Mean Time... Zulu Time.
Courtney Fish Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:28:00 - [16] in nearly 6 yrs of playing eve, ive only ever known 1 expansion to actually finish on time. how-ever within a few mins of ppl installing it, a few boot.ini files went awol :)
daddys helper	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:28:00 - [17] new alt to bypass your ban control tower? lol
Deanna Magus Caldari Valkyries CIE	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [18] Originally by: sonofahb Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. im eastern time zone. we are 4 hours apart from eve time so thats about 7:30 for us. Except UTC does not take into account daylight savings etc, so GMT is +1 hour on UTC. Until the clocks go back later in the year.
Tyria Sharken Minmatar Forging Industries Silent Infinity	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:29:00 - [19] i actualy woulda understood the 'zulu' time.... grew up a military brat =) the UTC just threw me off, thankies everyone. --------------------------------------------- "Only two great species on this planet take part in massive, organized warfare. Men, and ants."
Ugly Arkaral	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:30:00 - [20] 20:00 Deployment is still underway and expecting Tranquility to still open at 21:30 UTC. 20:20 Downtime is now expected to last until 23:30 UTC due to the additional server updates. It has now changed to additional server updates. I'm sure they are making it up as they go along.
X'aron	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:30:00 - [21] this extension of downtime should be expected folks. its normal.
okst666	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:31:00 - [22] Edited by: okst666 on 21/06/2011 20:32:29 Originally by: X'aron this extension of downtime should be expected folks. its normal. its absolutly NOT normal. We migrated whole Networks from NT4 to W2K with exchange and active directories over different countries in less time and that is ALLWAY much more pain in the ass than patching a ****ing game! Ever...and for allways.
octahexx Charante	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [23] its not like the server gonna be stable the coming week anyway with more extended downtime because of "database problems". more downtime!!!!! i demand it!
Joe Astor Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [24] I leave for work at 02:30. I hope everything is back up by then, one of my characters has room on their skill queue I wanna fill BEFORE I go do a long, annoying 16 hour day without getting my EVE fix. If not, then I shall start getting annoyed.
Tyria Sharken Minmatar Forging Industries Silent Infinity	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [25] Originally by: Courtney Fish in nearly 6 yrs of playing eve, ive only ever known 1 expansion to actually finish on time. how-ever within a few mins of ppl installing it, a few boot.ini files went awol :) Lol! i remember that patch day... i was actualy fishy when it finished on time. Just didnt seem right, no MMO ive ever played (and ive played almost all of them to date) has ever had a patch finish on time. So i waited till later that night. Glad i did =) --------------------------------------------- "Only two great species on this planet take part in massive, organized warfare. Men, and ants."
Serceyes	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [26] Wow, 23:30 that's a shock !!!
Asta Ddu Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:32:00 - [27] EVE patch day - start d/t late, finish even later, but hey CCP do it every 6 months or so and they do exactly the same thing everytime! No surprises here!
Mikal Morataya	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [28] Edited by: Mikal Morataya on 21/06/2011 20:33:42 Hehehe, what I dont get is why CCP can never get it right, why don't they just in future for a major release say, "its offline for 24 hours, if we can do better and get it on sooner, we will. " As they NEVER get it right.. Its comical. Maybe they are just mean buggers who like to screw with us.
mindblow Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [29] Originally by: Borun Tal I have 0530 (6/22) in the pool and the skill queues are full, so it's all good. :) I've put a 19days skill just to be on the safe side. Sig removed, lacks EVE related content. And it scared the bejesus out of me - Mitnal
P42ALPHA Gallente DeadOn.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:33:00 - [30] LAWL
yodog1	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 - [31] CCP. why don't you just extend your expected down time from what you expect 6 to 10 hours later instead. that way people don't get **ed at you. not like ever deliver a patch or expansion on time. ever. it is always delayed and people all ways get **ed! get with the program and just give yourself extra time. it will just be a bonus if servers come up early.
Tabasco SpicyMan	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 - [32] Sorry for the dumb question, but how do I download the expansion before it's released? Everytime I open EVE it just says I have an incompatible version, and doesn't let me download it.
Ataxio	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:34:00 - [33] FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF my skills up in 10 hours. Game Over.
Serceyes	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 - [34] Originally by: okst666 Edited by: okst666 on 21/06/2011 20:32:29 Originally by: X'aron this extension of downtime should be expected folks. its normal. its absolutly NOT normal. We migrated whole Networks from NT4 to W2K with exchange and active directories over different countries in less time and that is ALLWAY much more pain in the ass than patching a ****ing game! Ever...and for allways. Ah but, you probably got people who know what they're doing !!!
Ivan Ward Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:35:00 - [35] http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx The OP is posted at 20:22 UTC. --
Tarkin Hamir	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 - [36] Another CCP fiasco.
Wayez	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 - [37] Originally by: Deanna Magus Except UTC does not take into account daylight savings etc, so GMT is +1 hour on UTC. Until the clocks go back later in the year. GMT doesn't change, just the clocks change to BST "British Summer Time", which is GMT +1 UTC=GMT all the time
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:36:00 - [38] Originally by: yodog1 CCP. why don't you just extend your expected down time from what you expect 6 to 10 hours later instead. that way people don't get **ed at you. not like ever deliver a patch or expansion on time. ever. it is always delayed and people all ways get **ed! get with the program and just give yourself extra time. it will just be a bonus if servers come up early. different time, same posts.
Azazel Mordred Minmatar Cloak of Shadows	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:37:00 - [39] Originally by: Deanna Magus Except UTC does not take into account daylight savings etc, so GMT is +1 hour on UTC. Until the clocks go back later in the year. GMT does NOT CHANGE.
primary Naerdiel Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:39:00 - [40] Cant say that i am surprised that it is delayed, BUT what i cant understand is why CCP hasnt learned from previous patches that it is more likely then not that it will be delayed, take youre first "expected to be finish" and add atleast 5hours, if its completed before, ppl will be woot! if not u have a 5 hour margin of ****ups.
Anonymous Lemming	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:41:00 - [41] The world may switch to IPv6 by the time CCP updates eve.
Rui Morin	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:42:00 - [42] There is a useful formula to apply with EVE patch downtime that works on most occasions. Stated Downtime x 2 = Actual Downtime.
Anniken Geirsdottir Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:43:00 - [43] Originally by: Deanna Magus Originally by: sonofahb Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. im eastern time zone. we are 4 hours apart from eve time so thats about 7:30 for us. Except UTC does not take into account daylight savings etc, so GMT is +1 hour on UTC. Until the clocks go back later in the year. And you are wrong GMT has no DST on its own, what you mean is BST (British Summer Time) "GMT is an absolute time reference & doesn't change with the seasons." "During Daylight Saving Time, London Time is GMT+1, also known as British Summer Time (BST)." So despite a little offset (under one second) UTC IS GMT. Period.
Natsett Amuinn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:43:00 - [44] How do I set a skill to train for more then 4 hours? I keep trying to log in but can't connect. What's going on?
Rhuu Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:43:00 - [45] Originally by: Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor Downtime is now expected to last until 23:30 UTC due to the length of database updates. Painted in softly glowing silvers by the moonlight, her hands folded over her heart, she sighed at me with the slightest edge of desperation, "Why can't we stop time and make this moment last forever, my love?" To be fair, it was a pretty awesome picnic. Due to some failure in my upbringing, I had no idea that fish could be so moist and delicious. Her time was up, though, so I just laughed at her, "It's 21:30. I need to go fly a fake space ship, baby. I ain't got no more time for your crap." I walked away as she shriveled up into a quivering ball of tears, and I smiled to myself. I totally pwned her. Not only did I pwn her, I would suffer no retribution from CONCORD, and she would find no solace from allies. It was one of life's few perfect moments. The last thing I said to her as I got in my car, leaving her alone in that moonlit field with no way to get home was my deepest, most heartfelt, "Yarr!" I'm pretty sure she was moved.
Bill Banner	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:43:00 - [46] Originally by: primary Naerdiel take youre first "expected to be finish" and add atleast 5hours What makes you think they didn't?
Callha Ri	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:45:00 - [47] Thank you CCP... I mean ******** you.. you are heading the right direction, I guarantee you. But you must be used to it by now. So peace!
janet calder	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:45:00 - [48] Originally by: Rui Morin There is a useful formula to apply with EVE patch downtime that works on most occasions. Stated Downtime x 2 = Actual Downtime. Now now Rui, 2 years ago last month they came in on time, by minutes, but the did it in the stated time. Thats it :(
NoobPwn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:46:00 - [49] Guys, am I only one who sees the good part of this? They used to edit their announcement of DT, now they actually have a thread that tracks how they fail each time in DT expectations.
primary Naerdiel Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:46:00 - [50] Originally by: Bill Banner Originally by: primary Naerdiel take youre first "expected to be finish" and add atleast 5hours What makes you think they didn't? well, first expected was 17:00 (or was it 19) anyway, 07:00 - 17 (19) is 10-12 hours u can really think that that has a 5 hour margin on it.
Tallis Lindisere	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [51] Originally by: primary Naerdiel Cant say that i am surprised that it is delayed, BUT what i cant understand is why CCP hasnt learned from previous patches that it is more likely then not that it will be delayed, take youre first "expected to be finish" and add atleast 5hours, if its completed before, ppl will be woot! if not u have a 5 hour margin of ****ups. Because then you'ed get all the complaints from people who come online to log on at the quoted time and find out they could have logged on x hours earlier :) Adding the extra hours and not telling anyone and not bringing the game back until then, thats a different matter. And based on CCP's track record of updates probably justified.
X'aron	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [52] Originally by: okst666 Edited by: okst666 on 21/06/2011 20:32:29 Originally by: X'aron this extension of downtime should be expected folks. its normal. its absolutly NOT normal. We migrated whole Networks from NT4 to W2K with exchange and active directories over different countries in less time and that is ALLWAY much more pain in the ass than patching a ****ing game! Ever...and for allways. Aww umad bro?
Trell Kazak	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [53] Some interesting (or not) facts about UTC. UTC is actually the abbreviation for Co-ordinated Universal Time but the French got all prissy about having to use CUT as the abbreviation - after they lost out before when the last great time standard was GMT - based on a location in the UK. So a compromise we reached where the abbreviation UTC was used instead of the more sensible CUT. UTC and GMT are NOT the same. For applications where sub second time synchronization is not required they can be considered equivalent but because UTC contains leap seconds (sometimes the last minute of a day contains 61 seconds and not 60 to bring it back into line with the mean solar day)GMT and UTC are not exactly the same.
Cailais Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [54] Meh who cares. We're all just here to troll the forums anyway C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
Euphanasia Online	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:47:00 - [55] This is very disappointing and a bit of a let-down. My whole day wasted because I am being lead on to believe i will be able to play soon :P
Trell Kazak	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:49:00 - [56] Edited by: Trell Kazak on 21/06/2011 20:49:35 Okay, so hands up who actually believed CCP's first estimate for when the servers would come back online ?
Hegbard	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [57] Originally by: Deanna Magus Except UTC does not take into account daylight savings etc, so GMT is +1 hour on UTC. Until the clocks go back later in the year. GMT doesn't have daylight savings time added. Durning daylight savings time the time zone of the UK is called BST (British Summer Time). For all practical purposes here UTC and GMT are the same.
yodog1	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:50:00 - [58] Originally by: Euphanasia Online This is very disappointing and a bit of a let-down. My whole day wasted because I am being lead on to believe i will be able to play soon :P it never happens. they say a time and people just wait and wait you think we would learn by now. :P
ShadowStar90 Gallente EVE EXTREME INNOVATIONS Labores Solis Insidiae	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 - [59] munching popcorn Anymore whiners to be whining and trolling? Has the cat poke your eye? I take as a yes. munching popcorn Keep going! So, I'm enjoying to hear you whining.
Duncan Redhammer	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 - [60] What I find really funny about all this, is people blaming CCP. But why not blame yourself for not anticipating that this would/could/should happend. I would guess many of you who ***** and moan on the forum are people who havent experienced the old patch times from Everquest for instance, now there were long patches. So to all the euros go to bed, have sex with your wife or girlfriend if you have any. For the US people, good luck on playing when it gets up, lets hope your boot.ini wont disappear. PS Suck it up!
Keryth Sylvanus	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 - [61] Originally by: Rhuu Originally by: Cobalt Sablestar Icefluxor Downtime is now expected to last until 23:30 UTC due to the length of database updates. Painted in softly glowing silvers by the moonlight, her hands folded over her heart, she sighed at me with the slightest edge of desperation, "Why can't we stop time and make this moment last forever, my love?" To be fair, it was a pretty awesome picnic. Due to some failure in my upbringing, I had no idea that fish could be so moist and delicious. Her time was up, though, so I just laughed at her, "It's 21:30. I need to go fly a fake space ship, baby. I ain't got no more time for your crap." I walked away as she shriveled up into a quivering ball of tears, and I smiled to myself. I totally pwned her. Not only did I pwn her, I would suffer no retribution from CONCORD, and she would find no solace from allies. It was one of life's few perfect moments. The last thing I said to her as I got in my car, leaving her alone in that moonlit field with no way to get home was my deepest, most heartfelt, "Yarr!" I'm pretty sure she was moved. Good poast.
Anniken Geirsdottir Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:51:00 - [62] Originally by: Trell Kazak Some interesting (or not) facts about UTC. UTC is actually the abbreviation for Co-ordinated Universal Time but the French got all prissy about having to use CUT as the abbreviation - after they lost out before when the last great time standard was GMT - based on a location in the UK. So a compromise we reached where the abbreviation UTC was used instead of the more sensible CUT. UTC and GMT are NOT the same. For applications where sub second time synchronization is not required they can be considered equivalent but because UTC contains leap seconds (sometimes the last minute of a day contains 61 seconds and not 60 to bring it back into line with the mean solar day)GMT and UTC are not exactly the same. As I mentioned above when correcting the fool that thought GMT employs a DST.
Natsett Amuinn	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:54:00 - [63] How come when I started I made a character, but all I see is a spaceship?
Kami Lincoln Amarr Haz Buttonz Strategic Insanity	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:54:00 - [64] Wow are you guys over-reacting... like Omg, CCP has wasted 12 hours of your time and now you have to be in the real world, that must be so traumatizing for you. This happens like once or twice a year, not like it happens daily, and you try putting out something like this, It's hella difficult, and even if you get it perfect during a test, there no way to tell what will happen when the server is under stress of 50,000 people. And be honest, the majority of you would just be spinning your ship... or now avatar around in circles anyway.
Massirth Stonestream	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:55:00 - [65] I bet 20 mill for 2:00
Klein Warlock	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:55:00 - [66] I bet the server will be back up year 2330 thats what they mean hehe jk but I must say they are expert on extending down time the should instead extend it 1 week and run some more test¦s then try it so the could probably solve the problem they have now.
Antril Guun	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:56:00 - [67] forget it till at least 9am UTC tommorow - they work EU time on the server stuff (servers are in london remember) there's no chance of them working through the night on this update, they'll just bed it down and start on it again tommorow.
Trell Kazak	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:56:00 - [68] Edited by: Trell Kazak on 21/06/2011 21:10:24 Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir Originally by: Trell Kazak Some interesting (or not) facts about UTC. UTC is actually the abbreviation for Co-ordinated Universal Time but the French got all prissy about having to use CUT as the abbreviation - after they lost out before when the last great time standard was GMT - based on a location in the UK. So a compromise we reached where the abbreviation UTC was used instead of the more sensible CUT. UTC and GMT are NOT the same. For applications where sub second time synchronization is not required they can be considered equivalent but because UTC contains leap seconds (sometimes the last minute of a day contains 61 seconds and not 60 to bring it back into line with the mean solar day)GMT and UTC are not exactly the same. As I mentioned above when correcting the fool that thought GMT employs a DST. Read your post - I dont quite see where I repeated what you said. >> I can see how the comment above could carry a tone i had not intended, I should have said "I Read your post" - .. the phrase above was not intended to mean you should go read your post but that I had read your post ... stupid English language
DrugsDen	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:58:00 - [69] Any chance of this b4 the UK runs out of tuesday??
upper left	Posted - 2011.06.21 20:59:00 - [70] Originally by: KamikazeBrAzIl Edited by: KamikazeBrAzIl on 21/06/2011 20:28:21 We are all CCP puppets.. they ALWAYS lie about downtime length edit: bad english is bad stupid remark is stupid
Miles Apart	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:00:00 - [71] Originally by: Deanna Magus Originally by: sonofahb Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. im eastern time zone. we are 4 hours apart from eve time so thats about 7:30 for us. Except UTC does not take into account daylight savings etc, so GMT is +1 hour on UTC. Until the clocks go back later in the year. Actually, GMT == UTC. You're thinking of BST (British Summertime), which is GMT+1
Lady Tsasa	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:01:00 - [72] http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx Says its 6:30pm central 7:30pm eastern.. for those wondering.
Anniken Geirsdottir Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:02:00 - [73] Edited by: Anniken Geirsdottir on 21/06/2011 21:02:56 Originally by: Trell Kazak Read your post - I dont quite see where I repeated what you said. Aside from the irrelevant brabbel about the frenchies I mentioned the offset, which is also irrelevant in this thread, as the op just wanted to know the difference (in hours) and not synchronize clocks... Also irrelevant: our discussion. Edit: Originally by: Miles Apart Actually, GMT == UTC. You're thinking of BST (British Summertime), which is GMT+1 You are not the quickest one, eh?
Bob TheSecond Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:02:00 - [74] First message I saw about PLANNED downtime said something like 0500-1900 (or at least that's how I read it.) So, that's 14 hours. Now you factor in the patch day multiplier of approximately 1.8 and you get 25.2 hours. Also they started it late, 0700 apparently, so that automatically pushed the 1900 I originally saw, to 2100, now add in those extra 11 hours for the patch day multiplier, and we're looking at 0800 on the 22nd. So, grab a beer (or 15) and just wait for it.
Khavi Kitamatsu	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 - [75] Originally by: Tyria Sharken Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh. There is no real difference between the two, they are one in the same UTC = Universal Time and GMT is Greenwich Mean Time. There is a cool widget you can download for your desktop if you have Windows 7. This will help you always know what time it is in Iceland compared to where to are at so you know what the bloody hell time it is when they say UTC. Download the World Clock Gadget. Set one for local time and the other for GMT and both to 24hr clocks. You are set. http://windows7themes.net/windows-7-world-clock-gadget.html
Lazzaroni	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:04:00 - [76] I dont know what you guys are fussing about Ive been playing EVE as intended all day. Am I missing something?
Miles Apart	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:06:00 - [77] Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir Edited by: Anniken Geirsdottir on 21/06/2011 21:02:56 Originally by: Trell Kazak Read your post - I dont quite see where I repeated what you said. Aside from the irrelevant brabbel about the frenchies I mentioned the offset, which is also irrelevant in this thread, as the op just wanted to know the difference (in hours) and not synchronize clocks... Also irrelevant: our discussion. Edit: Originally by: Miles Apart Actually, GMT == UTC. You're thinking of BST (British Summertime), which is GMT+1 You are not the quickest one, eh? Obviously not. Care to explain yourself?
Anniken Geirsdottir Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:07:00 - [78] Edited by: Anniken Geirsdottir on 21/06/2011 21:08:42 Originally by: Lazzaroni I dont know what you guys are fussing about Ive been playing EVE as intended all day. Am I missing something? Serenity (CN) or Singularity? Edit: Originally by: Miles Apart Obviously not. Care to explain yourself? 1st: fullquotes suck. 2nd: read the thread. (mentioned on the first page!)
Trell Kazak	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:08:00 - [79] Edited by: Trell Kazak on 21/06/2011 21:08:17 Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir Originally by: Trell Kazak Read your post - I dont quite see where I repeated what you said. Aside from the irrelevant brabbel about the frenchies I mentioned the offset, which is also irrelevant in this thread, as the op just wanted to know the difference (in hours) and not synchronize clocks... Also irrelevant: our discussion. I completely agree, our discussion is irrelevant - but then so is this whole thread - the servers will come back when the servers come back. You talked about the differences between GMT and BST and that GMT did not change in the summer.Which is correct, I never mentioned the daylight savings offset (+/- 1 Hour) but referred to the subsecond differences between GMT and UTC and the fact that UTC contains leap seconds - which neither GMT or BST do. And as for the Frenchy babble - at the time it was quite a big deal (at least to the French) - or we would all be calling it CUT now.
Bob TheSecond Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:08:00 - [80] Originally by: Lazzaroni I dont know what you guys are fussing about Ive been playing EVE as intended all day. Am I missing something? "I C wut U did there"
Chuc Morris	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:08:00 - [81] Originally by: Lazzaroni I dont know what you guys are fussing about Ive been playing EVE as intended all day. Am I missing something? Some stuff about botters, they are naming them GMT -game money trade, and UTC -undercutting trade crap Same old story bro
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [82] The fact that predicted finishing time has shifted from 21.30 to 23.30 should be of little consequence to most eve players - except school children in Europe who wanted to have the patch installed before bed. The fact that ccp have simply ninja edited the original front page post from 21.30 -> 23.30 and have left the link in that front page post to a post stating that they expect servers to be on line at 21.30 - show how arrogant and incompetent the company is.
JC Anderson Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:10:00 - [83] Its because of Falcon.
Billy Danacreon	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [84] Current UTC time :21:11 Current local time : 17:11 Plenty of time ahead =D
Samamtha Hooker	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [85] slurping from soda You mad, bro??? slurping and munching popcorn
Chuc Morris	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [86] Originally by: Cancel Align NOW The fact that predicted finishing time has shifted from 21.30 to 23.30 should be of little consequence to most eve players - except school children in Europe who wanted to have the patch installed before bed. The fact that ccp have simply ninja edited the original front page post from 21.30 -> 23.30 and have left the link in that front page post to a post stating that they expect servers to be on line at 21.30 - show how arrogant and incompetent the company is. Go play wow. I think they wouldn't mind. Can I have your stuff?
Sam Sente	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:12:00 - [87] Incarna: it's gonna be legen... wait for it...
Lazzaroni	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [88] Originally by: Bob TheSecond Originally by: Lazzaroni I dont know what you guys are fussing about Ive been playing EVE as intended all day. Am I missing something? "I C wut U did there" :)
Antril Guun	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [89] Originally by: Lazzaroni I dont know what you guys are fussing about Ive been playing EVE as intended all day. Am I missing something? if you intended/expected not to able to play - then i guess that's true for me too :)
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:13:00 - [90] Originally by: Chuc Morris Originally by: Cancel Align NOW The fact that predicted finishing time has shifted from 21.30 to 23.30 should be of little consequence to most eve players - except school children in Europe who wanted to have the patch installed before bed. The fact that ccp have simply ninja edited the original front page post from 21.30 -> 23.30 and have left the link in that front page post to a post stating that they expect servers to be on line at 21.30 - show how arrogant and incompetent the company is. Go play wow. I think they wouldn't mind. Can I have your stuff? Your intelligence is astounding. As I said a two hour delay means little...
Miles Apart	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [91] Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir 1st: fullquotes suck. 2nd: read the thread. (mentioned on the first page!) Ah. Point taken.
Bob TheSecond Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:14:00 - [92] Originally by: Cancel Align NOW The fact that predicted finishing time has shifted from 21.30 to 23.30 should be of little consequence to most eve players - except school children in Europe who wanted to have the patch installed before bed. The fact that ccp have simply ninja edited the original front page post from 21.30 -> 23.30 and have left the link in that front page post to a post stating that they expect servers to be on line at 21.30 - show how arrogant and incompetent the company is. So, you're saying they should remove all previous updates to their posts just to make it appear that their magic crystal ball was correct the whole time? It makes sense that they would change the original post that would be seen from the main news page to reflect the NEW expected time for those people who do not constantly troll the forums.
CC Babcock	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [93] Originally by: Kami Lincoln Wow are you guys over-reacting... like Omg, CCP has wasted 12 hours of your time and now you have to be in the real world, that must be so traumatizing for you. This happens like once or twice a year, not like it happens daily, and you try putting out something like this, It's hella difficult, and even if you get it perfect during a test, there no way to tell what will happen when the server is under stress of 50,000 people. And be honest, the majority of you would just be spinning your ship... or now avatar around in circles anyway. wow how i wish all this kissasses to stop posting those comments... would it be soo much better if you could actually think before posting. Only in the last 30 days CCP had over 40 hours of downtime during EU tz alone. The standard reply would be "yes, you lost 2 euro, go cry". Multiply that 2 euros with 45 thousand accounts ( yeah because, as much as CCP would like us to think, they dont have more than 30 thousand players, with an average of 1.5 accounts each ), and youll see how much they are paid just to mock you. Or multiply with the 36-48 months of the dedicated players subscriptions to see how much they pay. Another standard reply is : "read the EULA". There is a law in EU which mentions the liabilities of the service provider in case of long accumulated interruptions in service. That law invalidates the entire section of the eula. And a third standard reply : "the accounts are paid with isk not RL money". This is hilarious, do these posters ever think long enough to realize how the GTCs are paid ? I think EVE is a great game, despite the latest really bad development decisions. But the respect to the customer is close to non-existent for CCP. In fact, is the worst i have ever seen in the MMORPG business, and, if they dont start to do something about that, they will lose all the players to a not-so-great game company that knows how to keep them.
Anniken Geirsdottir Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:15:00 - [94] Originally by: Trell Kazak [...] but referred to the subsecond differences between GMT and UTC and the fact that UTC contains leap seconds - which neither GMT or BST do. As did I, without explanation though. Originally by: Trell Kazak And as for the Frenchy babble - at the time it was quite a big deal (at least to the French) - or we would all be calling it CUT now. They _always_ puff themselves up in matters of standards, that's the only thing they are good at... Besides Baguettes.
Khysanth Onyx	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:17:00 - [95] I put in a 25 hour skill yesterday at 16:00. WTF CCP I demand SP and also a longer skill queue! Shouldn't you be accurate about patch times after 11 years? That's what I thought?! Thanks for ruining my skill plan. I might just unsub tbh
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:18:00 - [96] Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir Edited by: Anniken Geirsdottir on 21/06/2011 20:29:55 Planned ahead though and reset my PI nodes to a 2day cycle, I shall sleep untroubled. You had more optimism than I did. I went for 4 day.
Nike Shoks Caldari APEX ARDENT COALITION C0NVICTED	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:38:00 - [97] Kinda expected this to last till tomorrow. Enjoyin reading the OMGWTFCCP threads tho
da go	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:39:00 - [98] Originally by: Deanna Magus Except UTC does not take into account daylight savings etc, so GMT is +1 hour on UTC. Until the clocks go back later in the year. GMT does not account for daylight saving either. Furthermore GMT is not really a correct term. It's a generic term and an historical term that is still often used, but it does not precisely identify a specific time scale. The correct name for time as determined by astronomical observations exactly at the 0¦ longitude (that is Greenwich) is UT1. Since UT1 does not advance uniformly, several smoothed versions of UT1 are in use and are called UT1R, UT2 and UT2R depending on what kind of periodic variations are smoothed out. UTC is a time scale that advances uniformly but approximates the real astronomical time with leap seconds. It is kept to within ¦0.9 seconds of UT1. When sub-second precision is not needed it is customary to refer to any of these time scales as GMT. For historical reasons GMT is also used to refer to UTC when speaking about legal time and time zones. All world legal clocks are in fact based on UTC with a (mostly hourly, but sometimes smaller) offsets applied according to longitude. In England winter time is UTC (but called GMT) and summer time is BST which is one hour more than UTC (and expressed as GMT+01). --- I don't know! I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again! Bart Simpson.
Remald Kar	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:39:00 - [99] Originally by: Khysanth Onyx I put in a 25 hour skill yesterday at 16:00. WTF CCP I demand SP and also a longer skill queue! Shouldn't you be accurate about patch times after 11 years? That's what I thought?! Thanks for ruining my skill plan. I might just unsub tbh Older users were telling people in Help to set long training on several days before the downtime. Your bad. No sympathy.
Majuan Shuo Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:40:00 - [100] Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 21/06/2011 21:43:39 Correct me if I am wrong but have they EVER been right on a patch day? Why the ** not just give a more realistic estimation from the start? Originally by:** Remald Kar Older users were telling people in Help to set long training on several days before the downtime. Your bad. No sympathy. Wrong "you're" <-Not a simple grammatical error: you have in fact, used the wrong word entirely. Bad. Also he is not bad for knowing ahead of time to look in the help channel to get advice he did not know he needed. TL;DR: You're* a douche.
Rui Morin	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:41:00 - [101] Originally by: Zleon Leigh Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir Edited by: Anniken Geirsdottir on 21/06/2011 20:29:55 Planned ahead though and reset my PI nodes to a 2day cycle, I shall sleep untroubled. You had more optimism than I did. I went for 4 day. I went for 27 days.
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:47:00 - [102] Originally by: okst666 Edited by: okst666 on 21/06/2011 20:25:20 CCP ** you! I go to bed! This was the most boring day of the last 15 years for me...and no...fapping does not help...google allready called me and asked if there were new sites... Protip - Get; a girlfriend, sunlight, a job, another hobby, Other ** done To cleaning To fapping more Showering Cooking Reading Tequilaing Or any other thing that will fill the void in your heart usefully. "something quirky here"
Zylawy	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:49:00 - [103] Originally by: okst666 Edited by: okst666 on 21/06/2011 20:32:29 Originally by: X'aron this extension of downtime should be expected folks. its normal. its absolutly NOT normal. We migrated whole Networks from NT4 to W2K with exchange and active directories over different countries in less time and that is ALLWAY much more pain in the ass than patching a **ing game! Ever...and for allways. Any IT will know that they are using Microsoft.... like these forums... its called Sharepoint.... nothing with microsoft ever goes according to plan :) Oracle would be a better choice... but too costly :) (hire me?) Originally by:** octahexx Charante its not like the server gonna be stable the coming week anyway with more extended downtime because of "database problems". more downtime!!!!! i demand it! Again, have you ever worked with microsoft? I have and click the wrong button.. BOOM! Use linux, WebSphear and oprcale... a lot less problems... but more $$$ where your trade off?
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:50:00 - [104] To all the freaking idiotic whining maggots in this thread - they're deploying a massive patch morons! It's going to take as long as it takes. Did any of you honestly expect to be playing at all today? Anyone who didn't stack their skill queue to cover at least the next four days is either a ****** or simply hasn't been paying attention. Let them work - if they take the time to get this right there will probably be less downtime/crashes/bugs in the days and weeks ahead.
NoobPwn	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:51:00 - [105] Quote: Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. Guess what's the update to the mission arc?
Aznwithbeard Minmatar OMGROFLSTOMP	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:55:00 - [106] So like...... Whats everyone up to? Im thinking about going food shopping FUC KYES. "something quirky here"
Callha Ri	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:55:00 - [107] Edited by: Callha Ri on 21/06/2011 21:56:14 Never seen so much ass licking in my whole life, you expect ccp will hire you for this, or maybe give you a few bucks to spend in the new vanity stuff? To those who say "quit whining", quit licking yourselves.
Anslo Disciples of Night Dominion of Darkness	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:57:00 - [108] Originally by: Aznwithbeard So like...... Whats everyone up to? Im thinking about going food shopping FUC KYES. I'm practicing shuffling and windmills with a friend. :D
Zylawy	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:57:00 - [109] Originally by: Callha Ri Edited by: Callha Ri on 21/06/2011 21:56:14 Never seen so much ass licking in my whole life, you expect ccp will hire you for this, or maybe give you a few bucks to spend in the new vanity stuff? To those who say "quit whining", quit licking yourselves. lol, Not whining... just want a job :) Plus this gives me more time to work on my self employment :)
Average Black Woman	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:57:00 - [110] Originally by: Aznwithbeard So like...... Whats everyone up to? Im thinking about going food shopping FUC KYES. Someone made a thread about LoL yesterday and I finally went through with downloading it. It's actually really fun and free without having to grind 400m ISK
Majuan Shuo Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:58:00 - [111] Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus I'm a doucher who thinks he'll get hired by CCP if I white knight for them
My Postman	Posted - 2011.06.21 21:59:00 - [112] Originally by: Khysanth Onyx I put in a 25 hour skill yesterday at 16:00. WTF CCP I demand SP and also a longer skill queue! Shouldn't you be accurate about patch times after 11 years? That's what I thought?! Thanks for ruining my skill plan. I might just unsub tbh You clearly are new here. Everybody else and his/her grandma injected at least AWU5, or, for the paranoid ones (racial)titan 5.
PajaH	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:01:00 - [113] finaly, it started to DL patch :)
Daelorn	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:10:00 - [114] Edited by: Daelorn on 21/06/2011 22:10:17 Originally by: Tyria Sharken Might be a stupid question, but what is UTC -> EST?.. tried useing a time-zone calculator, but its only showing GMT.... cant find UTC on anything heh.
CEOcat Gallente CAT Corp	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:11:00 - [115] Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir UTC is GMT No, it is not. UTC in international atomic time with leap seconds. GMT is the mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. For the sub-second precision we need to determine when the server will be open there is a difference yeah...
Jess Altol	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:11:00 - [116] Yep same here and done, but no let me in so I still wait, <sigh>
Slumpert	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:12:00 - [117] CCP would make me happy if I was to get 1 isk every time I pressed the connect button awaiting the server to open up.
Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:13:00 - [118] Originally by: Majuan Shuo Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus I'm a doucher who thinks he'll get hired by CCP if I white knight for them What a bizarre little freak you must be. I want to be hired by CCP? To do what exactly? I work for one of the world's biggest law firms in London - what the hell would I want to go to Iceland for/to do? Maybe it's you who should go work for CCP - I'm sure you'd have this patch up and running by now. Utter tosspot!
Xyla Kador	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:15:00 - [119] Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus hey there pret- wait... your not a girl wai du u has name liek me? ---brought to you by...alt!
Callha Ri	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:15:00 - [120] Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus Originally by: Majuan Shuo Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus I'm a doucher who thinks he'll get hired by CCP if I white knight for them I work for one of the world's biggest law firms in London Picture or it didn't happen.
Cpt Mooney	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:18:00 - [121] Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:40 Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:10 Quote: like Omg, CCP has wasted 12 hours of your time and now you have to be in the real world its 0:13am over here wich means i didnt get to play for a whole day. and yes there ARE people with RL commitments to fullfil, who cant spent hours playing everyday as they please. (un)fortunatly today was my off day, where i actually had the CHANCE to play. that wouldve been true if cpp wouldnt have come up with this MAJOR screwup. 14hours for a update? you GOT to be kidding! dear cpp employees, heres word you should try to remember on your next attempt to mess with the servers: nightshift theres plenty of unemployed loan-slaves out there who would willingly get this job done at a appropriate time of the day. but heh, why not simply give it a try, and run an obviously untested update during peak hours instead?
Zixie Draco The Queue	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:20:00 - [122] Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus Originally by: Majuan Shuo Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus I'm a doucher who thinks he'll get hired by CCP if I white knight for them What a bizarre little freak you must be. I want to be hired by CCP? To do what exactly? I work for one of the world's biggest law firms in London - what the hell would I want to go to Iceland for/to do? Maybe it's you who should go work for CCP - I'm sure you'd have this patch up and running by now. Utter tosspot! You work for a law firm in London? Why, I'm the Queen of England...it's a pleasure to meet you.
Dr Valeri Royal Khanid Engineering	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:21:00 - [123] So everyone wants his money back?
Anniken Geirsdottir Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:22:00 - [124] Originally by: CEOcat Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir UTC is GMT No, it is not. UTC in international atomic time with leap seconds. GMT is the mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. For the sub-second precision we need to determine when the server will be open there is a difference yeah... Another quick one...
P42ALPHA Gallente DeadOn.	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:23:00 - [125] Originally by: Zixie Draco Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus Originally by: Majuan Shuo Originally by: Xyla Vulchanus I'm a doucher who thinks he'll get hired by CCP if I white knight for them What a bizarre little freak you must be. I want to be hired by CCP? To do what exactly? I work for one of the world's biggest law firms in London - what the hell would I want to go to Iceland for/to do? Maybe it's you who should go work for CCP - I'm sure you'd have this patch up and running by now. Utter tosspot! You work for a law firm in London? Why, I'm the Queen of England...it's a pleasure to meet you. Down with the crown!!!
KingMazz ONE	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:28:00 - [126]
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:29:00 - [127] Originally by: Zixie Draco You work for a law firm in London? Why, I'm the Queen of England...it's a pleasure to meet you. That would be priceless. Scene: WiS "The Queen Mum? Let me shake your hand. Oh wait - that's not deployed yet."
Onyx Blackman	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:31:00 - [128] Originally by: Majuan Shuo Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 21/06/2011 21:43:39 Correct me if I am wrong but have they EVER been right on a patch day? Why the ** not just give a more realistic estimation from the start? Originally by:** Remald Kar Older users were telling people in Help to set long training on several days before the downtime. Your bad. No sympathy. Wrong "you're" <-Not a simple grammatical error: you have in fact, used the wrong word entirely. Bad. Also he is not bad for knowing ahead of time to look in the help channel to get advice he did not know he needed. TL;DR: You're* a douche. It's not the wrong word at all. Read it again, but attempt to be less of an idiot this time. Never heard of the phrase 'my bad' in regards to placement of blame?
Renegade Hunter	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:31:00 - [129] Originally by: Khysanth Onyx I put in a 25 hour skill yesterday at 16:00. WTF CCP I demand SP and also a longer skill queue! Shouldn't you be accurate about patch times after 11 years? That's what I thought?! Thanks for ruining my skill plan. I might just unsub tbh That'll teach you to have any faith in CCP to do anything on the timetables they provide. I set a 10 day training because i knew they would **** something up.
da go	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:32:00 - [130] Originally by: CEOcat Originally by: Anniken Geirsdottir UTC is GMT No, it is not. UTC in international atomic time with leap seconds. GMT is the mean solar time at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich. For the sub-second precision we need to determine when the server will be open there is a difference yeah... No. GMT is not an astronomical time, it's just an historical name. The astronomical time at longitude 0¦ is UT1. Today GMT is used in two ways: 1) when subsecond precision is not needed, it refers to any of UT1, UT1R, UT2, UT2R or UTC 2) for historical reasons it's used to refer to UTC when speaking of timezones and legal times (for example when you say BST is GMT+01 you really mean it's UTC+01) --- I don't know! I don't know why I did it, I don't know why I enjoyed it, and I don't know why I'll do it again! Bart Simpson.
Remald Kar	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:33:00 - [131] Originally by: Majuan Shuo Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 21/06/2011 21:43:39 Correct me if I am wrong but have they EVER been right on a patch day? Why the ** not just give a more realistic estimation from the start? Originally by:** Remald Kar Older users were telling people in Help to set long training on several days before the downtime. Your bad. No sympathy. Wrong "you're" <-Not a simple grammatical error: you have in fact, used the wrong word entirely. Bad. Also he is not bad for knowing ahead of time to look in the help channel to get advice he did not know he needed. TL;DR: You're* a douche. Haha, anything to make it personal, yes? Compare to expression "my bad". If you are not familiar with it, google it, should you have access to Internet.
Jess Altol	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:34:00 - [132] eve online: incarna 1.0 deployment downtime extended reported by CCP Spitfire \| 2011.06.21 14:06:27 \| NEW EVE Online: Incarna 1.0 is currently being deployed. Database updates took longer than expected, and have performed additional updates to a level one mission arc. This has resulted in an extended downtime. We expect to open Tranquility to the players at 23:30 UTC. Thank you for your understanding. Understanding? My God CCP has had me up and sitting herefor 10 hours waiting! I have skills training that is not a problem, it is the fact that I am not in there doing missions to earn isk for another plex to keep my second account flying. 10 hours that is a little under 150 mil lost today! I just wish the hell they would just get it done and just give me a few hours to earn something. LOL I am getting tired and that will slow me down. Soo CCP just open the game and let me get to work! If you do then I will have the understanding you say we have, but dont as of now!
jason hill Caldari Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:35:00 - [133] lol i abasaloutly love it when ccp do a major patch ...cya next week kids ..im off to glastonbury have fun with all the unexpected reboots over the next week destroy everything you touch
Daelorn	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:35:00 - [134] Originally by: KingMazz ONE
Djinn Neutrona	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:49:00 - [137] It does seem odd to continuously shoot oneself in the foot regarding update times and notifications for every single update. Why not avoid this by overestimation? If I was the project manager I might be tempted to estimate a release time and date maybe a day or even two after that which I expected all the work and testing to be finished. This way it would be a pleasant surprise when it came out early and exceeded all expectations. One could even run all the testing, leave the servers ticking over, make a post on the forums about an hour before notifying when it would be back and running. Sit back, have a cuppa and flick the switch knowing it would all be ok (bar mass test effects). Kinda like the Weather forecasters, just predict constant months of rain and people will be pleasantly surprised. You get it wrong now, so by predicting rain you would still get it wrong when the sun shone but at least people wouldn't be as annoyed with you.
Vozch Fischtauder Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:50:00 - [138] Originally by: xwolfi Originally by: Trell Kazak Some interesting (or not) facts about UTC. UTC is actually the abbreviation for Co-ordinated Universal Time but the French got all prissy about having to use CUT as the abbreviation - after they lost out before when the last great time standard was GMT - based on a location in the UK. So a compromise we reached where the abbreviation UTC was used instead of the more sensible CUT. Lol the story could be told the other way around: UTC is actually the abbreviation for "Temps Universel CoordonnT" but the English got all prissy about having to use TUC as the abbreviation - after they won out before when the last great time standard was GMT - based on a location in the UK. So a compromise we reached where the abbreviation UTC was used instead of the more sensible TUC. :D But anyway that was a stupid decision, we should have agreed with the english abbreviation, there's no reason why we should use a meaningless one only because we don't want an english one... Do the French use "UTC"/"TUC" at all? I thought they were in a different zone alltogether.
BennyBoy Starhopper	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 - [139] Originally by: Daelorn Originally by: KingMazz ONE
Callha Ri	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:52:00 - [140] Originally by: Daelorn Originally by: KingMazz ONE
Gonadicus Skrachicus	Posted - 2011.06.21 22:58:00 - [141] Edited by: Gonadicus Skrachicus on 21/06/2011 23:01:06 Originally by: okst666 Edited by: okst666 on 21/06/2011 20:25:20 CCP **** you! I go to bed! edit: instead of double the power of your hardware....double the hardware...make patches over MONTHS if you want, and once finished switch the servers and let us play... This was the most boring day of the last 15 years for me...and no...fapping does not help..... Whine Whine ?whine Jeeeezz get a floggin LIFE You guys each need a new box of Pampers and a Crying towel PATHETIC..
Smodab Ongalot Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2011.06.21 23:07:00 - [142] Edited by: Smodab Ongalot on 21/06/2011 23:09:29 Originally by: Cpt Mooney Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:40 Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:10 Quote: like Omg, CCP has wasted 12 hours of your time and now you have to be in the real world its 0:13am over here wich means i didnt get to play for a whole day. and yes there ARE people with RL commitments to fullfil, who cant spent hours playing everyday as they please. (un)fortunatly today was my off day, where i actually had the CHANCE to play. that wouldve been true if cpp wouldnt have come up with this MAJOR screwup. 14hours for a update? you GOT to be kidding! dear cpp employees, heres word you should try to remember on your next attempt to mess with the servers: nightshift theres plenty of unemployed loan-slaves out there who would willingly get this job done at a appropriate time of the day. but heh, why not simply give it a try, and run an obviously untested update during peak hours instead? I thought the time they chose to pull the servers offline was completely appropriate. While I was either asleep or at work today, the servers were down. I am home now, and the server is backup. Perfect! A night of trying out barbieonline! Thank you CCP for planning your patches to suit my needs. F*** everyone else.
N0A Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.22 07:07:00 - [143] One whole day lost for beimng able to buy virtual boots and 3 other items. Oh yeah, it was definitely worth the wait. THANK YOU CCCP !
I Accidentally YourShip	Posted - 2011.06.22 07:10:00 - [144] Originally by: Cpt Mooney Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:40 Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:10 Quote: like Omg, CCP has wasted 12 hours of your time and now you have to be in the real world its 0:13am over here wich means i didnt get to play for a whole day. and yes there ARE people with RL commitments to fullfil, who cant spent hours playing everyday as they please. (un)fortunatly today was my off day, where i actually had the CHANCE to play. that wouldve been true if cpp wouldnt have come up with this MAJOR screwup. 14hours for a update? you GOT to be kidding! dear cpp employees, heres word you should try to remember on your next attempt to mess with the servers: nightshift theres plenty of unemployed loan-slaves out there who would willingly get this job done at a appropriate time of the day. but heh, why not simply give it a try, and run an obviously untested update during peak hours instead? There will be other PA / PD days. Whatever you call them nowadays.
I Accidentally YourShip	Posted - 2011.06.22 07:13:00 - [145] Originally by: Smodab Ongalot Edited by: Smodab Ongalot on 21/06/2011 23:09:29 Originally by: Cpt Mooney Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:40 Edited by: Cpt Mooney on 21/06/2011 22:19:10 Quote: like Omg, CCP has wasted 12 hours of your time and now you have to be in the real world its 0:13am over here wich means i didnt get to play for a whole day. and yes there ARE people with RL commitments to fullfil, who cant spent hours playing everyday as they please. (un)fortunatly today was my off day, where i actually had the CHANCE to play. that wouldve been true if cpp wouldnt have come up with this MAJOR screwup. 14hours for a update? you GOT to be kidding! dear cpp employees, heres word you should try to remember on your next attempt to mess with the servers: nightshift theres plenty of unemployed loan-slaves out there who would willingly get this job done at a appropriate time of the day. but heh, why not simply give it a try, and run an obviously untested update during peak hours instead? I thought the time they chose to pull the servers offline was completely appropriate. While I was either asleep or at work today, the servers were down. I am home now, and the server is backup. Perfect! A night of trying out barbieonline! Thank you CCP for planning your patches to suit my needs. F*** everyone else. I got home from work at 14:30, I saw the servers were still down so I played something else for small amount of time the servers were down while I was home. Living in the EDT timezone is grand.

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