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wannabomber
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI
Originally by: speric Solomon, for what its worth,I have the same problems and I have a decent rig. I remember when Starcraft2 came out, there were similar problems. Their problem was; "Meanwhile, John Gillooly of PC Authority pointed out that the between-mission scenes - such as those onboard Jim Raynor's ship - weren't properly framerate capped.
"These are fairly static scenes and don't take much work for the graphics card to display them. [But] because of this, the card renders the scene as quickly as possible, which then taxes your card as it works to its full potential," explained Gillooly." I'm not sure this is the problem, but it is very similar. Speric
Thank you for the support. Interesting that was.
I can't speak for others but that just goes to show that in fact improper optimization can indeed cause issues.
CCP Developer response yet?
Funny that the only reply that doesn't really help is the one you give credit... We can quote gazilions of examples from a gazilion of software flaws and where does that relate to Eve?
Do you wanna talk about windows flaws? Do you wanna talk about hardware flaws? Do you wanna talk about ram flaws? Do you wanna talk about code flaws? Do you......
Understand this: if a problem is reported by a majority of people then you can think about blaming the coder, but if you only have a few people complain do you really think that it's a coder flaw? Get a poll up so that you get the bigger picture and then work your way up to a conclusion. else this is rubbish posting from you mate... S_u_c_k m_e |

wannabomber
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI Edited by: Solomon XI on 23/06/2011 16:10:18 CCP JUST POSTED SOMETHING OFFICIAL
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535553
Last time i checked CCP doesnt support muliple clients on 1 machine or did something changed and i didnt realize? I can quote the petition response from CCP about not supporting more than 1 client in 1 pc. S_u_c_k m_e |

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: wannabomber
Originally by: Solomon XI Edited by: Solomon XI on 23/06/2011 16:10:18 CCP JUST POSTED SOMETHING OFFICIAL
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535553
Last time i checked CCP doesnt support muliple clients on 1 machine or did something changed and i didnt realize? I can quote the petition response from CCP about not supporting more than 1 client in 1 pc.
I don't do multiple clients as this is a one client only issue.
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Cadela Fria
Amarr x13 Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Cadela Fria on 23/06/2011 16:19:48
Originally by: SHAG ALOT Arthie
Remind me never to buy a rig from you!!!
All games that are brought out are tested with graphics card manufacturers to ensure the drivers work correctly with the game (ps3 users have been having issues with the new rockstar games release overheating the GPU and burning out the ps3 and this is due to bad driver testing and has been proven).
To say to someone that has 12 fans plus a gpu fan that its their fault for not having enough cooling is just plain stupid, if it was just 1 guy that had the issue fair enough but multiples!! thats a hell of a coincidence!
There is obviously an issue with certain GPU's and CQ. Its possible that all the ppl with issues have do is update to the latest drivers for the GPU to resolve the issue as CCP may have only tested optimization on the latest driver releases.
Quoting theoretical physicists does not make you seem smart btw, nor does it lend more credence to a foolish argument
Okay, never buy a rig from me.
But I'm sorry you completely misread what I said, and you didn't read everything I said nor the reasons given for what I said, which I explained thoroughly. I'm sorry you didn't take the time to read my post properly, because at no point did I say it HAD to be one particular issue. It could be any number of issues, but one thing is certain, there is no "Breach thermal limit" code in existence...thats dependent on the driver.
And I never made a claim to be smart, you are the one aiming personal insults at my intellect now without me having ever mentioned it. Thats your unfortunate choice, not mine. However you are mistaken in saying it doesn't help the argument - I chose the quote very carefully to underline the point I was making. The quote isn't about who made it, its about what the quote says..Could've been anyone, but in this case it was Lawrence Krauss.
That you're hiding behind an alt while doing all this, well..*shrugs*
Oh and also, never buy a rig from me. Happy now?
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mathew hopkins
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Singeabooty Raj Windows 7 x64 i7 950 O/c 4.2 (Eco Water Cooled) Rampage III Extreme Mobo 12GB RAM Asus GTX 580 x 2 NZXT Phantom Full Tower Case (All fan slots fitted) Bigfoot Killer Network Card Sony LCD 32"
Can run 3 Eve accounts at the same with station environment and all graphics set to high no probs.
Holy sh*t, does that thing do toasted sandwiches too?
Walcome to PC Gaming Peeps. Happy Days.
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groentenman
Krannon of Sherwood Carthage Empires
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:22:00 -
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48 degrees in station. Keep in mind that i overclock using the BIOS and not through any software programs
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Trattu
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:25:00 -
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I haven't read all the post here. However, for those having overheat issue, better to check display "interval" value. When I first dock on CQ, my CPU temp went over 80 degree, there "PRESENT INTERVAL" set to "interval immidiate". After I set it back to "interval one", GPU temp stay around 60 degree and stable, with three client running, though only main client use CQ.
My PC is, Core i7 870 8Gb ram GeForce GTX 460 with two 21 inch LCD (1600x1050) run one client on main screen with fixed window mode, and two on the other screen as window mode. Overall CPU usage stay below 30% 
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POS Trader
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI Edited by: Solomon XI on 22/06/2011 02:25:20
Originally by: Morgenholt Blue
Originally by: Solomon XI
CCP your game is broken. There are reports of burned graphics cards, burned CPU's, and even a burned MotherBoard on the forums right now. YOU NEED TO FIX THIS IMMEDIATELY OR OFFER A REVERT PATCH AND ADMIT HONESTLY THAT SOMETHING BORKED ON YOUR END.
This is not CCP's fault. This is your own fault for not having sufficient cooling in your PC.
And you sir ... are an absolute idiot. Read the original post and you'll see that I DO IN FACT have proper cooling.
12 case fans. Noctua heatsink (which is comparable to liquid almost). It is NOT an issue on my end. My system has plenty of cooling. My heatsink is also properly mounted. I'm not an idiot.
Just wow.
I know it is difficult for some to understand, but Morgenholt Blue is 100% correct. *YOUR HARDWARE IS BROKEN*
It is not possible for well cooled hardware to become overheated by running an application on it. Period.
There are applications out there that stress load your GPU and/or CPU to test its cooling. And no, EVE ain't it. Maybe you should run some stress tests to isolate problems in your cooling solution.
FYI: I have similar CPU. I have noticed no change in CPU utilization or temperatures. Quakelive.com produces a higher CPU load/temperature than Eve. And my case has exactly 1 fan :P
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Alternative Issues
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:47:00 -
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This thread is getting way out of hand.
I have worked all my life as a computer tech and I thought I should share some facts. Incarna requires a lot more from your computer, so it works harder and generates more heat.
If your computer gets to hot, it will shutdown or restart, your CPU or GPU will never be allowed to get so hot that it can harm itself. This is not something any software, i.e. EVE, can change. Thus your computer is not going to overheat and break because it is running EVE.
Should be noted that increased temperatures, decreases the lifetime of various components. If you feel that your computer is getting to hot, the first thing to do is to clean the fans and the heatsink. A computer can generate a lot of dust, which will disrupt and block the airflow, especially between the heatsinks and the fans. If that is not the issue I would suggest you seek out your local computer store and let them do their thing.
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wannabomber
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: wannabomber on 23/06/2011 16:50:51 Edited by: wannabomber on 23/06/2011 16:50:17 Just for the record:
q9300 @ 3,46Ghz (oc'ed ofc) cpu cooler - coolermaster Hyper 6 2x 2Gb corsair @ 4-4-4-12 (bus runs over 450mhz - have to check current speed) EP45-Ds3R board bios F11e (09/03/2009) Geforce 8800gts 512 g92 - rev A2 running @ 900mhz core and 1024mhz mems SSD mushkin 60Gb latest firmware thermaltake 1000w psu on board sound card (realtek crap 7.1) Box - Coolermaster cm690 5 fans fitted on rig
Now lemme tell you 1 piece of advise:
It's probably yr fault of the da bad cooling, it's all about airflow and ambient temp. With 12(wow) fans most probably your ruining yr cooling, study air cooling 1st seems the best advise. Fans dont cool anything, they just moove air.
What more can we help mate?
p.s.- not that by itself this means anything but i design and maintain server farms for +15 years.... do you think that will at least gimme some credit? maybe not.....
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Kile Kitmoore
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: wannabomber Edited by: wannabomber on 23/06/2011 15:33:47 This is by FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR the most stuid problem that was taken up on foruns....
WTF?!? Eve burning cards and boards? You people must be a complete noob regarding tech stuff. I would shut my mouth 1st and ask opinions to some1 that knows what is talking about. Really Solomon XI, please just say you were bored and decided to put the blame on game rather your ignorance. At least yr thread made me laught for some minutes...
Learn to control your hardware/software then get back and report.
FIY I use a box with ubunto 10.1, wine and 3 eve clients - > no problems reported ALso use same box with win7 64 and no problems reported
My graphic card is 2,5 years (8800gts g92) old and i play max res with 3 clients and 2 monitors all the time, even my box gets direct sunlight on a country were temps now are 30¦ outside and is aircooled with 4 fans overall. How about learning nvidea stuff and cooling, pc tuneup and OS, and then, after you get educated, come back here and post the result.
FIY 2:
This is how a unsupported setup looks like, with drivers that needed to be self-tuned and all stuff @ max res.... learn before you raise stupid issues mate. Also the desktop is using compiz and 3d cube on top o f the 3 eve clients... If you know what that means....
[URL=http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/685/screenshot1wl.jpg/]
Umm, want to try all three with CQ loaded.
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wannabomber
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: wannabomber on 23/06/2011 17:04:18
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Umm, want to try all three with CQ loaded.
Sorry mate havent had time, yet, to update the linux client but tomorrow i'll post a screen of it. Ok it's old screen but some people know about the issues on linux, eve and graphic cards.
Give you a rl an example: This linux setup was making my nvidia shutdown in less then 10m, temps were all over the roof. After spending 2 weeks tracing kernel and drivers i found out a bug in the compiling process of nvidia linux driver (oficial one). Solution: install nvclock and by magic that 2 bits that were badly compiled came back to good working order and temps came down to floor level. 60¦ in a 8800gts is nothing, they handle about 100¦ no sweat. S_u_c_k m_e |

Bloodpetal
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:04:00 -
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Bumping for the last readers.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535553 ____________________________________________________ Cost of the week of June 21st |

wannabomber
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Bloodpetal Bumping for the last readers.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1535553
With that post you realize very fast that CCP is looking for hardware os software flaws.... S_u_c_k m_e |

leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:23:00 -
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never got a blue just to acknowledge there may be a problem, but start there own thread on heat issues, they lack balls lol
seen this on twitter
maybe someone can make more sense of it than me
Sometimes I hate being right. This is why CQ is so harsh on your video card, really poor optimization on the 3D artist. i.imgur.com/Vibl8.gif
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Bloodpetal
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:33:00 -
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My GPU actually runs COOLER with 2 CQ's running - but runs like crap.
____________________________________________________ Cost of the week of June 21st |

Pyrna Elkali
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Posted - 2011.06.23 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Pyrna Elkali on 23/06/2011 17:58:22 Edited by: Pyrna Elkali on 23/06/2011 17:52:47 Phenom II x6 1035T 2ghz 8gig ram EVGA GeForce GTX 460 FTW 1gig (for the win edition heavy overclock) Win 7 x64 in a crappy HP micro tower (yup uATX motherboard) basic cpu cooler and 1 back fan (only the PSU and the CG where swaped PSU: LC power green giant 460w 80plus)
no overheat for CG pre incarna 60~ deg post incarna 53~ deg (yup thats right even cooler ) load 78% pre and 58% post (single or multi CQ loaded all graph and avatar settings to max)
(CG fan template base while the OC is handmade from a SC (superclocked) to a FTW level (yup i got lucky to buy a 200$ SC and get a 300$ ftw perf)
CPU same: lower temp/load on all my monitor (i run eve on a 26" LG tv on Hdmi and a 19" for monitoring CG cpu load
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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:09:00 -
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Interesting...
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Faith O'Siras
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: leth ghost never got a blue just to acknowledge there may be a problem, but start there own thread on heat issues, they lack balls lol
seen this on twitter
maybe someone can make more sense of it than me
Sometimes I hate being right. This is why CQ is so harsh on your video card, really poor optimization on the 3D artist. i.imgur.com/Vibl8.gif
Now THAT is extremely interesting. 
CCP Developer wish to comment on this? 
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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:19:00 -
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Doing a bit of Googling and I suspect that may actually be exactly what's causing all of the issues. I'm not a 3D engineer so I don't know. Still ... That's very interesting. 
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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:46:00 -
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What leth ghost posted deserves more information. Could this be the cause of our issues? DISCUSS!
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Kirtur Muhaha
Gallente Ragnarok Rising
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Posted - 2011.06.23 18:55:00 -
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I have a really crappy store bought computer (and its even compact so its about 1/3 the size of your average box) and all Ive had done to it is to add an AMD Athlon 7750 Dual Core Processor (2.70 GHz) and I know almost nothing about computers except that I like to use them... But Ive had zero trouble with Incarna either in or out or the CQ... Comp runs the same as its always done  My Head Is On Loose But The Screws Are Tight |

Madcow
Minmatar Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:40:00 -
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Solomon do you have to spam everywhere because your system has crap cooling? ______________________ I am just a crazy cow |

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Madcow Solomon do you have to spam everywhere because your system has crap cooling?
Until otherwise noted.
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Pyrna Elkali
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Posted - 2011.06.23 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Solomon XI What leth ghost posted deserves more information. Could this be the cause of our issues? DISCUSS!
well ,,, no
since i run a similare setup with a oc to the bones CG and a higher cpu tdp with 11 fan less in case and a generic amd cpu cooler. and get no problems ... with one or more client running on CQ screen.
and ////that screen official source or just pure assumption///
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Temuken Radzu
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Posted - 2011.06.23 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Temuken Radzu on 23/06/2011 20:15:06 I got to say that i dont have much problems running incarna... even with a fairly old pc. my specs: core 2 duo 2.27 Gh 3G ram 8800 GTX graphics card
average fps 30 in station. 50 to 60 fps in space medium to high graphics in 1920:1080 resolution not realy a increase in fan speed but did not read the temperature.
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Neo Jaguar
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Posted - 2011.06.23 22:52:00 -
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heh... I just think its interesting that my rig has 700 fps out in space running 3 clients with all maxxed and 45-50 when docked.. :P btw, GPU working at 35% out in space / 100% docked...
i5 2500k oc to 5.0ghz 8gb ddr 3 working at 2050mhz ATI HD 6970 2gb Asus p67 Sabertooth Corsair H70 water series
I`m not having any issues with temp or such, but its interesting to see how the game changes when i`m trying to idle.. :(
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Hra Neuvosto
The 8th Order Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2011.06.23 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Neo Jaguar I`m not having any issues with temp or such, but its interesting to see how the game changes when i`m trying to idle.. :(
So it's an AFK cloaking buff? ------------------
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Neo Jaguar
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hra Neuvosto
Originally by: Neo Jaguar I`m not having any issues with temp or such, but its interesting to see how the game changes when i`m trying to idle.. :(
So it's an AFK cloaking buff?
"heh... I just think its interesting that my rig has 700 fps out in space running 3 clients with all maxxed and 45-50 when docked.. :P btw, GPU working at 35% out in space / 100% docked... "
No.. when I`m docked and afkish, my computer actually works WAY HARDER then when i`m in fleet fights for eg... 
Been in small fights with 20 ppl in each side and didn`t load my GPU / CPU as when i`m akish docked..
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Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
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Posted - 2011.06.24 00:21:00 -
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I dunno why the framerate drops so much. =/
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