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Varesk
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:37:00 -
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Temp has spiked.
I am running 5 fans and the following specs.
Windows 7 64bit 8 gigs ram amd athlon 64 x 2 Dual Core Processor 6400+ 3.1ghz geforce 9800 gx2 Heat sink on the CPU
The Temp has gone up to almost 70c on the processor from just being in CQ.
What did you do CCP?
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:46:00 -
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That is a 90nm Windsor core for one (Known to get very hot for a LONG time now)
And on top of that it is 125W That is ALOT of heat to move and so if your stock fan has even a small amount of dust it will get hot quick. That is life. NOTHING to do with CCP. But YOUR failure to anticipate the cooling needs of your computer.
If you cant handle EVE you cant handle a tool like Prime95 which truly tests your cores. Therefore your cooling is bad. Get it serviced or learn to put a better cooler on yourself.
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:50:00 -
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CQ seems to max out CPUs and GPUs. My gtx460 fan kicked into high gear and the noise drove me to disable CQ.
Other folks are also reporting similar heat issues with CQ.
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Varesk
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: Varesk on 22/06/2011 04:51:47 considering my temp spiked over 30c from CQ i would say my comp runs fine.
running 3 accts before this expansion my temp NEVER rose above 50c. now i dont even want to log the other two in due to this. if one acct. raises it 30c then 30 x 3 = 90 which would fry my cpu.
thank you for not helping and making yourself look like a tool.
edit, this reply was for the bad poster under my op.
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gdjghjhgjfh
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk Temp has spiked.
I am running 5 fans and the following specs.
Windows 7 64bit 8 gigs ram amd athlon 64 x 2 Dual Core Processor 6400+ 3.1ghz geforce 9800 gx2 Heat sink on the CPU
The Temp has gone up to almost 70c on the processor from just being in CQ.
What did you do CCP?
http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/CPU/CPU%20Temperatures.shtml
CPU Critical Temperature AMD Athlon Series AMD Athlon (socket) up to 1Ghz 90ŚC AMD Athlon (slot) all speeds 70ŚC AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.1Ghz+ 95ŚC AMD Athlon MP 1.33Ghz+ 95ŚC AMD Athlon XP 1.33Ghz+ 90ŚC AMD Athlon XP T-Bred upto 2100+ 90ŚC AMD Athlon XP T-Bred over 2100+ 85ŚC AMD Athlon XP Barton 85ŚC AMD Athlon 64 70ŚC AMD Athlon 64 (Socket 939, 1.4 volts) 65ŚC AMD Athlon 64 FX (sledgehammer) 70ŚC AMD Athlon FX (San Diego + Toledo + Windsor) 63ŚC AMD Athlon X2 (Manchester + Toledo) 65ŚC AMD Athlon X2 (Windsor) 70ŚC-72ŚC (1.35v - 1.25v) AMD Athlon X2 (Brisbane) 78ŚC (1.25v) AMD Phenom AMD Phenom 70ŚC AMD Phenom X3 70ŚC AMD Phenom X4 (9100, 9750, 9850) 61ŚC AMD Phenom X4 (9550, 9650) 70ŚC AMD Sempron AMD Sempron (T-bred/Barton core) 90ŚC AMD Sempron (Paris core) 70ŚC AMD Sempron (Manila) 69ŚC/78ŚC Model dependant AMD Mobile Sempron 95ŚC Intel Pentium D Pentium D (Smithfield 805, 820) 63ŚC Pentium D (Smithfield 830, 840) 69.8ŚC Pentium D (Presler 915, 920, 930, 945, 960) 63.4ŚC Pentium D (Presler 940, 950) 68.6ŚC Intel Celeron Series Celeron D (Prescott) 67ŚC Celeron D (Cedar Mill) 69.2ŚC Mobile Celeron 100ŚC Intel Core 2 Duo Intel core 2 Duo (Conroe E4300, E4400, E6300, E6400) 61.4ŚC Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe E4500, E4600, E4700) 73.3ŚC Intel Core 2 Duo (Conroe E6320, E6420, E6540, E6550, E6600, E6700, E6750, E6850) 60.1ŚC Intel Core 2 Duo (Wolfdale) 72.4ŚC Mobile Core 2 Duo 100ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme Intel Core 2 Extreme (Conroe) 60.4ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Kentsfield Q6700) 71ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Kentsfield Q6600) 62.2ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Kentsfield QX6700, QX6850) 64.5ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Kentsfield QX6800) 54.8ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Yorkfiled Q9300, Q9450, Q9550) 71.4ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Yorkfield QX9650) 64.5ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Yorkfield QX9770) 55.5ŚC Intel Core 2 Extreme (Hypertown QX9775) 63ŚC Intel Itanium 2 Intel Itanium 2 below 1Ghz 66ŚC Intel Itanium 2 1Ghz - 1.6Ghz 83ŚC
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:58:00 -
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Edited by: Zachstar on 22/06/2011 04:59:55
Originally by: Varesk Edited by: Varesk on 22/06/2011 04:51:47 considering my temp spiked over 30c from CQ i would say my comp runs fine.
running 3 accts before this expansion my temp NEVER rose above 50c. now i dont even want to log the other two in due to this. if one acct. raises it 30c then 30 x 3 = 90 which would fry my cpu.
thank you for not helping and making yourself look like a tool.
edit, this reply was for the bad poster under my op.
Call it bad all you want but it is the truth. If you cant pass EVE in temps you cant pass Prime95 therefore by most modern standards your cooling is NOT able to handle your TDP.
Blaming CCP for actually using the resources of your computer to render their game is what is not helping here.
Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Originally by: stoicfaux CQ seems to max out CPUs and GPUs. My gtx460 fan kicked into high gear and the noise drove me to disable CQ.
Other folks are also reporting similar heat issues with CQ.
Have you at any point changed the Interval in graphics from one to Immediate? If so that is giving your video card NO chance to rest between frames. The FPS gain is minimal yet it causes your card to run much harder than it ought to be. Yes your card needs to be able to handle its TDP but if the fan is annoying or using too much power you ought to make sure that is atleast to one. (At fullscreen you can go higher as well)
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.22 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Only an idiot confuses load with temperatures. Now kindly, leave the thread. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Zachstar Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Only an idiot confuses load with temperatures. Now kindly, leave the thread.
At 100 percent load a CPU displaces it max TDP. That is why a company puts the TDP on the box for the core at stock clock. If your cooling cant handle the max TDP listed it is NOT CCPs fault but yours or the person responsible for servicing the PC.
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Proats
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:02:00 -
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Don't use stock fans.
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Tellenta
Gallente versic LLC
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:06:00 -
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I boiled a cup of tea from the exhaust fan of my laptop. CCP you ****ing dumb sonsa*****es if you're bound and determined to prevent a people from accessing a persistent universe.... I.... **** it....
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Callha Ri
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:06:00 -
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Same here, got an AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 940, @ 3000 MHz (x4) and an ATI HD 4890, and CQ is making my computer scream and overheat like there is no tomorrow.
From reading the recent posts that have been posted in the forums, there is obviously an issue with CQ and some computers, most of the issues are encountered with AMD platforms from what I have read, but I am not sure if it's specific to AMD.
The first reply to op obviously knows nothing about what he is saying, just trying to defend I don't know what exactly. Don't waste your time with him, just skip his post.
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Varesk
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:08:00 -
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i am not using stock fans.
kthx.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Callha Ri Same here, got an AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 940, @ 3000 MHz (x4) and an ATI HD 4890, and CQ is making my computer scream and overheat like there is no tomorrow.
From reading the recent posts that have been posted in the forums, there is obviously an issue with CQ and some computers, most of the issues are encountered with AMD platforms from what I have read, but I am not sure if it's specific to AMD.
The first reply to op obviously knows nothing about what he is saying, just trying to defend I don't know what exactly. Don't waste your time with him, just skip his post.
So your are saying that your cooling does not have to cool down a CPUs max TDP? If so I question your knowledge on the subject.
Your fans screaming and the cooling system is working to cool the PC? That is what it is DESIGNED to do! In the older days without fan controllers CPU fans were expected to run at full blast all the time. Only HTPC computers are EXPECTED to remain quiet.
You bought a big powerful CPU and expected to NEVER push it to max TDP. Well that is your fault. Not CCPs I have a Phenom II X3 720 overclocked and I bought the proper cooling for it and TESTED it with Prime95. Guess what? I am running CQ just fine.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Zachstar Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Only an idiot confuses load with temperatures. Now kindly, leave the thread.
At 100 percent load a CPU displaces it max TDP. That is why a company puts the TDP on the box for the core at stock clock. If your cooling cant handle the max TDP listed it is NOT CCPs fault but yours or the person responsible for servicing the PC.
However, just because your CPU is at maximum load does not mean it cannot go to higher temps. Reading up on things is all well and good, but if you don't walk the walk, you shouldn't talk the talk. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:12:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk i am not using stock fans.
kthx.
So? There are many crap cooling systems out there. If your cooling system cant handle your CPUs max TDP (More if its overclocked) It isn't right for the CPU and needs to be replaced or serviced.
EVE online CANNOT push a core past its Max TDP at stock clocks and voltage. If you changed these guess again who's fault it is? (Hint: Not CCP)
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:14:00 -
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Phenom x4 9850 OCed to 3,2GHz / Mungen II rev. B cpu cooler / top temp. 57
Nexus Edge tower / 6 funs.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Zachstar
Originally by: Blane Xero
Originally by: Zachstar Also your math is bunk. A CPU cant go past 100 percent load.
Only an idiot confuses load with temperatures. Now kindly, leave the thread.
At 100 percent load a CPU displaces it max TDP. That is why a company puts the TDP on the box for the core at stock clock. If your cooling cant handle the max TDP listed it is NOT CCPs fault but yours or the person responsible for servicing the PC.
However, just because your CPU is at maximum load does not mean it cannot go to higher temps. Reading up on things is all well and good, but if you don't walk the walk, you shouldn't talk the talk.
TDP is in Watts NOT degrees. If your cooling is bad the Watts cant dissipate and therefore heat buildup. Simple Physics.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Callha Ri Same here, got an AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 940, @ 3000 MHz (x4) and an ATI HD 4890, and CQ is making my computer scream and overheat like there is no tomorrow.
From reading the recent posts that have been posted in the forums, there is obviously an issue with CQ and some computers, most of the issues are encountered with AMD platforms from what I have read, but I am not sure if it's specific to AMD.
The first reply to op obviously knows nothing about what he is saying, just trying to defend I don't know what exactly. Don't waste your time with him, just skip his post.
AMD and older Intel chips. People reporting no issues seem to have the newer intel chips in their setup. CCP's DEVs probably have the latest hardware and never encountered the problem.
Still, it's up to CCP to accommodate the customer and his hardware within reason...not the other way around.
I suspect this expansion will go down in MMO history as the thing that broke CCP resulting in mass unsubs.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar TDP is in Watts NOT degrees. If your cooling is bad the Watts cant dissipate and therefore heat buildup. Simple Physics.
Just keep digging up wiki pages my friend. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:18:00 -
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Twice now my computer has shut off when in CQ.
I have to wait 5 min or so for it to want to turn back on. As soon as my second attempt to view the CQ upon logging into the game occurred, within 4 seconds my computer shut off without warning.
I have a Phenom 550 x2 and ATI Radeon 3870HD.
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Callha Ri
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar
Originally by: Callha Ri Same here, got an AMD Phenom II X4 Black Edition 940, @ 3000 MHz (x4) and an ATI HD 4890, and CQ is making my computer scream and overheat like there is no tomorrow.
From reading the recent posts that have been posted in the forums, there is obviously an issue with CQ and some computers, most of the issues are encountered with AMD platforms from what I have read, but I am not sure if it's specific to AMD.
The first reply to op obviously knows nothing about what he is saying, just trying to defend I don't know what exactly. Don't waste your time with him, just skip his post.
So your are saying that your cooling does not have to cool down a CPUs max TDP? If so I question your knowledge on the subject.
Your fans screaming and the cooling system is working to cool the PC? That is what it is DESIGNED to do! In the older days without fan controllers CPU fans were expected to run at full blast all the time. Only HTPC computers are EXPECTED to remain quiet.
You bought a big powerful CPU and expected to NEVER push it to max TDP. Well that is your fault. Not CCPs I have a Phenom II X3 720 overclocked and I bought the proper cooling for it and TESTED it with Prime95. Guess what? I am running CQ just fine.
Spare me the gibbering, nothing as good as a good old cross test, I have tried other demanding games (FFXIV, Crysis 2), I even run F@H during night and my computer never reached such heat. So please go touch your self somewhere else with somebody else.
Peace
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Callha Ri
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wa'roun Twice now my computer has shut off when in CQ.
I have to wait 5 min or so for it to want to turn back on. As soon as my second attempt to view the CQ upon logging into the game occurred, within 4 seconds my computer shut off without warning.
I have a Phenom 550 x2 and ATI Radeon 3870HD.
Don't run CQ anymore, you risk frying a component in your computer. Wait till CCP identifies the problem and fix it.
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Shereza
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:24:00 -
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So um, how many of you people have hair/clothing physics enabled? It occurrs to me that if you have the physics enabled, which are quite buggy given how my hair has tried to decapitate my character at least a dozen times by now while she was just sitting, it might be using up extra CPU cycles the game wouldn't normally use.
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Zachstar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:25:00 -
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Being rude does not help you. And F@H isn't evidence as it can be reduced by more or by percent. Also because it is GPU these days it does not truly max out a CPU just nearly so.
Folks I have explained the issue with CPU heat and TDP if you want more info I suggest looking it up or looking at the website of your CPU and GPU vendor. posting here any further after this when people want to just blame CCP then tend to their own cooling needs is just doing disservice to the threads that are trying to get CCPs attention of serious issues.
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PDS001Sniper
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:28:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk Temp has spiked. The Temp has gone up to almost 70c on the processor from just being in CQ. What did you do CCP?
Did you set the Intervel to "Default" or "One" ? (Both will lock your FPS below 60)
If you set the setting to "Immediate", then you are doing it wrong, the GPU will do the work as hard as they can. # CPU brand: Phenomx4 II 965 3.71Ghz # Motherboard: ASUS M4A78T-E # Memory: Mushkin Enhanced 4G DDR3 1333 # Video card: EVGA GTX 295 CO-OP # Operating system: Windows 7 Home 64-Bit
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Wa'roun
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Callha Ri
Originally by: Wa'roun Twice now my computer has shut off when in CQ.
I have to wait 5 min or so for it to want to turn back on. As soon as my second attempt to view the CQ upon logging into the game occurred, within 4 seconds my computer shut off without warning.
I have a Phenom 550 x2 and ATI Radeon 3870HD.
Don't run CQ anymore, you risk frying a component in your computer. Wait till CCP identifies the problem and fix it.
*sarcastically high-fives CCP...
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cyclobs
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zachstar Being rude does not help you. And F@H isn't evidence as it can be reduced by more or by percent. Also because it is GPU these days it does not truly max out a CPU just nearly so.
Folks I have explained the issue with CPU heat and TDP if you want more info I suggest looking it up or looking at the website of your CPU and GPU vendor. posting here any further after this when people want to just blame CCP then tend to their own cooling needs is just doing disservice to the threads that are trying to get CCPs attention of serious issues.
gpu is not the default F@H default F@H still only runs on 1 core (unless you get into the HPC which can do multi-cores and GPUS)
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kyoko Sakoda on 22/06/2011 05:33:18 My GPU temp is hot but fine, interval is set to one (vsync).
My (AMD Phenom II x4) CPU temperature is hitting 77C and Incarna crashes within 5 minutes of load every time. While my processor cooler is stock and runs hot, it has NEVER reached this level before.
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Fi1ippo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tellenta I boiled a cup of tea from the exhaust fan of my laptop. CCP you ****ing dumb sonsa*****es if you're bound and determined to prevent a people from accessing a persistent universe.... I.... **** it....
Your problem.
"The man behind the mask is a Maverik Letting off buck-ten shots for the hat trick."
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Kewso
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Posted - 2011.06.22 05:36:00 -
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interval one is your friend
with vsync on my temps barely rise
course i play all games with vsync on anyhow, smooth as silk on my lcd |
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