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Grimnir	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:31:00 - [31] This just in, 3 online articles == worldwide mockery!
General Xenophon Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Alissa Solette Edited by: Alissa Solette on 22/06/2011 23:28:07 Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" I feel the same way... EVE players used to be the elitist bastards of the MMO-geeks... now we're the noobs with the item mall and overprized monocles. shudder Quite fking true. It's AMAZING how much bull**** we put up with from CCP and they STILL think they can screw us over time and time again without any consequences whatsoever because they have an undying loyal fanbase- whom they basically give the finger to in most of the patches and game changes of late. WELL DONE CCP! Keep testing your playerbase and see how long your farce of a business keeps operating! ----------------------------------------------- One stupid item in a 'pay to play' game shouldn't cost 5 months of playtime to buy in an item shop!
Uglavitch Nefrex Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:33:00 - [33] CCP are a JOKE!!!!!!
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:35:00 - [34] Now get them to link the internal mini-magazine 'Fearless' (should be 'Clueless'.) Soundwave admits to being a dishonest shill for CCP and confirms that in spite of their lies, they still intend to make microtransactions for far more than vanity items: "I would like virtual goods sales in EVE. In fact, I'd like to sell a lot more than vanity items. Does this mean I'm an evil capitalist ...? Let's hope not, although that's the impression I get sometimes when interacting with our customers. There is a pretty overwhelming perception amongst EVE players that these changes are bad. I think they're brilliant, but our players don't. We're going to face an uphill struggle, and the reason many of us never talk about this publically [sic] is that we'd be burned at the stake by the players."
San Severina Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:38:00 - [35] Originally by: Uglavitch Nefrex CCP are a JOKE!!!!!! QFT
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Grimnir This just in, 3 online articles == worldwide mockery! Cross posting myself.. Quote: The world is catching on tho slowly... Some are already post in this thread so sorry for hijacking them. http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-now-sells-70-monocles/ http://blog.mmoga.com/2011/06/eve-online-charging-68-real-dollars-for-space-monocles/ http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/21/controversy-brewing-over-eve-online-microtransactions/ http://www.vg247.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/22/eek-eves-clothing-and-cash-crisis/ http://www.gbgamer.net/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ Pretty clear right?
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:41:00 - [37] Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/06/2011 22:59:35 PC Gamer - Eve Online now selling $70 monocles Quote: If youÆve followed that, youÆll have realised that in real money terms the clothes cost around $17.50 each and the implant costs more than $70.00 (or four months subscription). An astonishing amount for an item with no in game functionality. For comparison, BethesdaÆs often mocked Horse Armour DLC cost $2.50 on release, some 28 times less. Kotaku - Eve Online is selling horse armour in space Quote: While none of this stuff is compulsory in any way, and is targeted at EVE tragics who have more money than sense, youÆd think CCP would have been a little more subtle about fleecing the devoted. And the original: Joystiq - Controversy brewing over Eve Online microtransactions Will be sure to keep this updated as more articles are posted! Sad to say it, but CCP does deserve the mockery in this case. --
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:43:00 - [38] I would be very interested to know exactly how many monocles have been sold so far, actually.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:48:00 - [39] Originally by: Chidori kun Originally by: Grimnir This just in, 3 online articles == worldwide mockery! Cross posting myself.. Quote: The world is catching on tho slowly... Some are already post in this thread so sorry for hijacking them. http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-now-sells-70-monocles/ http://blog.mmoga.com/2011/06/eve-online-charging-68-real-dollars-for-space-monocles/ http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/21/controversy-brewing-over-eve-online-microtransactions/ http://www.vg247.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/22/eek-eves-clothing-and-cash-crisis/ http://www.gbgamer.net/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ Pretty clear right? Thanks, added all those you listed!
Ejit Amarr STD contractors	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:13:00 - [40] Those articles are all well and good. And it's nice to see some exposure of these issues outside the community, But they all have one thing in common. none of them have mentioned the real problems that have arisen with this patch. I'm kinda on the fence with regards to micro\mega transactions, If you don't like it, ignore it. Hardly game breaking stuff. But there was little or no mention of just how bad CQ is, no mention of the reported hardware issues, shoddy programming..etc etc Those are the real issues that should be brought to light, not how much a stupid ingame vanity item is!!!

Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Jada Maroo Thanks, added all those you listed! Not a problem your welcome :)
Isil Rahsen Gallente Ferrum Superum	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:21:00 - [42] Here's another http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/22/rumour-leaked-document-shows-ccps-microtransaction-plans/
Morgan Polaris	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:22:00 - [43] Originally by: Ejit Those articles are all well and good. And it's nice to see some exposure of these issues outside the community, But they all have one thing in common. none of them have mentioned the real problems that have arisen with this patch. I'm kinda on the fence with regards to micro\mega transactions, If you don't like it, ignore it. Hardly game breaking stuff. But there was little or no mention of just how bad CQ is, no mention of the reported hardware issues, shoddy programming..etc etc Those are the real issues that should be brought to light, not how much a stupid ingame vanity item is!!! That's just the regular stuff. CCP used to get away with that. Now we know they have no real interest in actually fixing EVE but for their money grabbing schemes. CQ is there to accommodate MT (M is for macro), PI is there to accommodate Dust, which will be MT-based. Given that they're off to a great start (sarcastic), this just doesn't bode well.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:22:00 - [44] Damn thats a lot of articles
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:25:00 - [45] Edited by: Chidori kun on 23/06/2011 00:26:41 Originally by: Ejit Those articles are all well and good. And it's nice to see some exposure of these issues outside the community, But they all have one thing in common. none of them have mentioned the real problems that have arisen with this patch. I'm kinda on the fence with regards to micro\mega transactions, If you don't like it, ignore it. Hardly game breaking stuff. But there was little or no mention of just how bad CQ is, no mention of the reported hardware issues, shoddy programming..etc etc Those are the real issues that should be brought to light, not how much a stupid ingame vanity item is!!! Well i am not sure about game breaking stuff happening in EvE all I know is it works fine for me. Maybe few little bugs I seen mostly graphics atm but did not fully jumped in yet. CQ works with out a flaw for me though I a pretty good system but that is a other discussion all together. The point in that articles is the pricing related to RL money if you gonna buy them or not is also besides the point. Chid
DarkJacena	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 - [46] No response from CCP. Such an amazing blunder by whoever's in charge. This game will die horribly if they don't wake up, and fast.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:30:00 - [47] Originally by: DarkJacena No response from CCP. Such an amazing blunder by whoever's in charge. This game will die horribly if they don't wake up, and fast. I agree. At the rate this is going, I hope Eve and CCP see their death approaching.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:39:00 - [48] This needs to be bumped
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:39:00 - [49] Sad to say, but I am inclined to agree.
Vin Hellsing	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude. I only bought the spy pack. Everything else was just fluff. This NeX thing is no different. The problem is that prices for the MannConomy was reasonable. $20 for a VERY LARGE PACK of items. In EVE, we're spending more than $20 on a single shirt. A shirt that we can't even wear in real life. See the difference?

cyclobs Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:52:00 - [51] :ccp: :excellence:
Gutuie	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:04:00 - [52] Originally by: cyclobs :ccp: :excellence: agree they work so hard to make a room and some minor fixes ...but.... they did it, ofcourse they screw all station
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:16:00 - [53] Originally by: Alley Specter Originally by: DarkJacena No response from CCP. Such an amazing blunder by whoever's in charge. This game will die horribly if they don't wake up, and fast. I agree. At the rate this is going, I hope Eve and CCP see their death approaching. They'll be needing a timemachine with a range of about 12 months. It's all done, they were told by many that they needed to focus on product used by existing customers, but the apparent strength and elegance of the idea blinded them.
Tobias Sjodin Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:20:00 - [54] It's pretty hard to take **** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. HABIT
45 Longslide	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:23:00 - [55] INCARNA - Icelandic for Self Inflicted Gunshot Wound to the Head. Which dev was it that wanted and expansion called Total Hell Death ? LOL you got it baby. D.I.A.F.
Mars Theran Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:24:00 - [56] Edited by: Mars Theran on 23/06/2011 02:25:30 Interesting how CCP's 'Internal Newsletter' is so poorly hashed together, and was that Michael Douglas at the top? Sorry, waste of time, and same article from the other post for Soundwave. edit: Oh, btw, the Caldari Logo on the banner behind the Dusties is backwards.
Dimitri Fukoyama	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:25:00 - [57] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take **** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. OH REALLY? THANKS SHERLOCK
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:56:00 - [58] We must keep player awareness up.
Pace eGuerra	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:03:00 - [59] Originally by: General Xenophon Also no place for this BS in Pay to Play games. I totally agree. Pay to play subscriptions means that revenue is directly tied to entertainment value and playability. It means the producer is directly engaged with the game, it's mechanics, and the reasons why people subscribe. The better the gameplay, the more amazing the experience, the higher the subscriptions, the higher the revenue. Moving to the "buy useless stuff for $$$$" model just encourages the producer to make more useless stuff.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:04:00 - [60] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take **** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. Dude, you need to read the leaked pdf. CCP has some big plans. ... If you like choice please support this topic in the Assembly Hall. Thanks.



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