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Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:29:00 - [61] Edited by: Alley Specter on 23/06/2011 03:33:10 Edited by: Alley Specter on 23/06/2011 03:30:56 Bump Oh, and Link 1 http://rift.chromebits.net/2011/06/alleged-leak-of-internal-ccp-memo/Linkage
Yoa Loother	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:32:00 - [62] Real problem is that it shines more than a uncomfortable light on the EVE PLAYERS! Quote: Oh, you¦re playing that crazy game with the 60$ monocles? Eh, nice. So much for EVE-elitism.. _ .. darn
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:45:00 - [63] Keep it up. We need more publicity for this.
Georn VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Strategic Operations Brigade	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:13:00 - [64] You are all a bunch of whiners! First you complain about possible micro-transactions and now, when CCP introduces macro-transactions, it isn`t right either... Make up your minds, jeez... ____________ nerf metagaming, boost fun
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:32:00 - [65] heres some more: Ten ton hammer Gamer Gaia
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:57:00 - [66] Edited by: Zleon Leigh on 23/06/2011 04:58:20 Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" Corp just recruited several brand new players, ranging from a few days to a couple of weeks old. I actually felt totally embarrassed when seeing them on yesterday - worried that they were going to pop out with a "WTF have I gotten myself into??" question/comment. Thank god they didn't know enough yet to start asking uncomfortable questions - other than - "are patch days DT always this bad?" Edit: Typoitis
Justin Cody Caldari T.A.L.O.N. Company	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:00:00 - [67] Originally by: Erichk Knaar Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent. Maybe that's the monocle's true power. What other power might it secretly have! When you put it on, you troll poor people. I love you Remind people that profit is the difference between revenue and expense. This makes you look smart. Scott Adams
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:55:00 - [68] I am running out of text in the first post. Soon Ill have to switch to links only!
Panda Name Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:58:00 - [69] good work, jada maroo.
Fractal Muse	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:16:00 - [70] Originally by: Yoa Loother Real problem is that it shines more than a uncomfortable light on the EVE PLAYERS! Quote: Oh, you¦re playing that crazy game with the 60$ monocles? Eh, nice. So much for EVE-elitism.. That's part of why I unsubbed. I don't want to be associated with EVE with this type of thing going on. Seriously, if I tell my friends at this point that I still play EVE... Then take with it walking (slow motion walking) with bad controls (wasd not doing what is expected) and the rest of it.. not worth it any longer.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:33:00 - [71] In case of CCP doing something that would delete this or the other threads, I advise that we archive the links to repost on the new boards
Estephania Independent Political Analysts	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:36:00 - [72] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint The "in-game advertising" angle is, I suspect, what the whole deal is with forcing people into the CQ (they've said the option to turn it off is temporary). That big TV screen in there that is constantly showing info on the game will probably get about 3months run time before we see the first 5second spot for NVidia or, worse yet, World of Darkness. The would be hilarious. Imagine a captain, relaxing on a sofa in the CQ and on the big TV screen there's an ad about vampires and werewolves.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:41:00 - [73] I got your back Jada... and the post under yours. :)
Jon D'Agrvainio	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:44:00 - [74] Nice compilation of articles. Glad CCP is getting the press coverage it has worked so hard to seek out.
Fouljin	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:52:00 - [75] It's not stupid who asks but the stupid is the one who pays. I don't really give a flying ****ck what some stupid vanity item like monocle costs. It can cost 1000Ç for all I care. Eve is a game about spaceships. 99% of my eveplaying time I'm in space, shooting something. I mean our avatars are now hanging in their small room alone. Why even bother to put up some vanity items? You guys like to play barbies also? Doll house maybe? pfffht. Roses are #FF0000, Violets are ##0000FF, all my base are belong to you...
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:57:00 - [76] Originally by: Fouljin It's not stupid who asks but the stupid is the one who pays. I don't really give a flying ****ck what some stupid vanity item like monocle costs. It can cost 1000Ç for all I care. Eve is a game about spaceships. 99% of my eveplaying time I'm in space, shooting something. I mean our avatars are now hanging in their small room alone. Why even bother to put up some vanity items? You guys like to play barbies also? Doll house maybe? pfffht. I advise you take a look at this thread.
Nominol	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:58:00 - [77] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take ** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. Well that's easy to say when "your own"** leadership is threatening to Ban your asses for buying any of the items, even with the Isk Tree you guys all have in the Drone region...
ifollowed through	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:02:00 - [78] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take ** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. no but i am having to continue playing the game in it's broken state as they are too bust making ing monocles to fix it you ignorant **
Karash Amerius Sutoka	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:17:00 - [79] I am all for $70 pixels if they get destroyed when you are podded. ========================= Karash Amerius - Operative - Sutoka Fighting Broke - A Eve Online Blog =========================
Leon Tango	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:33:00 - [80] French one : http://www.factornews.com/news-32186-Eve_Online_fait_plus_fort_que_l_armure_d.html
Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:38:00 - [81] Edited by: Ciar Meara on 23/06/2011 07:38:47 Originally by: Alissa Solette I feel the same way... EVE players used to be the elitist bastards of the MMO-geeks... now we're the noobs with the item mall and overprized monocles. shudder This! Is what happens when managers take over. Originally by: Karash Amerius I am all for $70 pixels if they get destroyed when you are podded. They don't, its not like its an implant or something! ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
Madcapnl The Rising Stars -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:43:00 - [82] Edited by: Madcapnl on 23/06/2011 07:43:11 <<meanwhile at the latest CCP damage control meeting>> "We are getting BAD press instead of GOOD press? How can that be? Our expansion is as awesome sauce as we say it is!" , "What? we can't put the fire out anymore? The fire is burning a whole in the subscription numbers? woot?" , "But, but, but.....why didn't any of our customers warn us?"........ "Oh wait"
Tony SoXai	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:43:00 - [83] Originally by: Dante Marcellus And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1mil isk. NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Oh wait it's his sig.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:58:00 - [84] This thread will live, no matter the cost. CCP has to have the bad publicity rubbed in their face.
Ned Black	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:08:00 - [85] Originally by: Fouljin It's not stupid who asks but the stupid is the one who pays. I don't really give a flying ****ck what some stupid vanity item like monocle costs. It can cost 1000Ç for all I care. Eve is a game about spaceships. 99% of my eveplaying time I'm in space, shooting something. I mean our avatars are now hanging in their small room alone. Why even bother to put up some vanity items? You guys like to play barbies also? Doll house maybe? pfffht. I admitably guffawed when I opened up the gold shop and saw the prices... not that it really matters to me since I will never by stuff like that anyway... but... just as you say I spend 90 (if not more since I live in WHs) out in space shooting stuff. What kind of annoys me is that they have spent months and months to get this out... and in the end what this expansion really was is a tight room, turrets that come out of your ship and some bug fixes. Personally I would have liked it a lot better if they would have spent all that time on fixing things that need fixing instead of this visual fluff that will keep the average player occupied for about 2 minutes before they turn it off. If anyone want to buy $60 monocle then fine, if you wish to trade 4 months of game time for a pair of useless monocles the fine, go right ahead, I will think you are a complete lunatic no matter if you bought the plexes with isk or not... but then again, who am I to judge the one buying them.
Tobaf	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:30:00 - [86] Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude. The difference here is TF2 is a $20 one time fee FPS, and yes it hurt the TF2 total population. While this is an MMO with a 15 a month subscription fee. We shouldn't need to pay for our subscription fees should be going to. Also if they're hurting for players perhaps they could lower sub fees down to $10 they could bring in more people that way.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:39:00 - [87] Originally by: Leon Tango French one : http://www.factornews.com/news-32186-Eve_Online_fait_plus_fort_que_l_armure_d.html Added, and updated the original post with a new logo!
Tla Atij	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:40:00 - [88] Originally by: Jada Maroo
Captain Travaras	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:44:00 - [89] is great to see the PDF document was leaked. Hopefully CCP will start to take notice of things now that some of their intentions in a private document are readily available for all to see what a joke its starting to become
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:51:00 - [90] Edited by: Wacktopia on 23/06/2011 09:53:14 Originally by: Takseen I'm not sure the $2.50 Oblivion horse armour is a fair comparison. A better one would be the $25 dollar mounts Blizzad sold to their playerbase. And people have bought codes for Trading Card Game reward mounts on EBay for hundreds of dollars. Personally I'm a bit bemused by the whole fuss here. Any of the in-game cosmetic items can be purchased using in-game currency. And the rarer items wouldn't have any prestige attached to them if any level 4 mission grinder could buy them. Even in-game advantages aren't a new thing. Power of Two promotion anyone? Scouting alts, hauler alts, repping alts, probing alts, supercap alts. All ways to turn $ into in-game benefits that can't be earned through normal gameplay. The only point I'd agree with is that by spending all this time on designing vanity items available to a small wealthy subsection of Eve, the regular subscriber is being ignored. The guys designing the Ishukone Scorpion could have been updating the uglier standard models instead. The guys who built the NEX UI could have been fixing the corp or LP store UI instead. And so on. I think it is fair to compare it to the horse armor. The $25 mounts from WoW are somewhat more significant than the monocle because they a) actually do something b) are a lot more 'significant' than a piece of eyewear. Tbh even I, with my massive scepticism of MT in EVE, would probably spend $2.50 for a monocle for lols. And that's saying a lot. Originally by: Alley Specter In case of CCP doing something that would delete this or the other threads, I advise that we archive the links to repost on the new boards eve-search.com. Although tbh I could see Chribba pulling that if he has to spend $99 just to help out the community for free?

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