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Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:56:00 - [1] Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/06/2011 22:59:35 PC Gamer - Eve Online now selling $70 monocles Quote: If youÆve followed that, youÆll have realised that in real money terms the clothes cost around $17.50 each and the implant costs more than $70.00 (or four months subscription). An astonishing amount for an item with no in game functionality. For comparison, BethesdaÆs often mocked Horse Armour DLC cost $2.50 on release, some 28 times less. Kotaku - Eve Online is selling horse armour in space Quote: While none of this stuff is compulsory in any way, and is targeted at EVE tragics who have more money than sense, youÆd think CCP would have been a little more subtle about fleecing the devoted. And the original: Joystiq - Controversy brewing over Eve Online microtransactions Will be sure to keep this updated as more articles are posted!
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.22 22:59:00 - [2] Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 22/06/2011 23:02:26 Articles like that are going to hurt new subscriber rates I'm sure.
Chandler Urandom Minmatar Native Freshfood	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:00:00 - [3] Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!"
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:00:00 - [4] so sad ... so sad I cancelled subscription, it sure was fun. I do hope to return. AG *** Signature may appear without warning! *** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:06:00 - [5] pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude.
Atticus Fynch Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" I discourage them from even trying the game now. People don't take kindly to the possibility of some amateurishly designed piece of software taxing your hardware to death. _ _________ _ "You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it."
Jason1138	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:09:00 - [7] i personally have no problem with microtransactions. i bought the horse armor in oblivion and i was happy to do it what i have a problem with is "micro"transactions that cost more than the game that i'm playing does. $20 for a pretend t shirt is ******ed. $70 for a pretend monocle is just insane or even if you're getting it with isk, who would rather have a monocle than a carrier or bhaalgorn? this crap is 10x as much as any sane person would pay for it
Zag'mar Jurkar	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:10:00 - [8] Good thing CCP isn't forcing us to buy vanity items
Thomas Turnpoint	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:11:00 - [9] It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent.
Bklyn 1	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:12:00 - [10] Microtransactions and in-game advertising are the unfortunate future for mmo's. I don't think in-game advertising would be accepted at all in Eve. I think microtransactions would have been more well received if CCP dealt with the existing game problems first and didn't start out with silly high prices. They messed it up this time. Players have overlooked a lot of problems out of love of the game and what it represents. I think a lot of that goodwill has been squandered with the blatant cash grab. This is unfortunate.

Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent. Maybe that's the monocle's true power. What other power might it secretly have!
Takseen	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:14:00 - [12] I'm not sure the $2.50 Oblivion horse armour is a fair comparison. A better one would be the $25 dollar mounts Blizzad sold to their playerbase. And people have bought codes for Trading Card Game reward mounts on EBay for hundreds of dollars. Personally I'm a bit bemused by the whole fuss here. Any of the in-game cosmetic items can be purchased using in-game currency. And the rarer items wouldn't have any prestige attached to them if any level 4 mission grinder could buy them. Even in-game advantages aren't a new thing. Power of Two promotion anyone? Scouting alts, hauler alts, repping alts, probing alts, supercap alts. All ways to turn $ into in-game benefits that can't be earned through normal gameplay. The only point I'd agree with is that by spending all this time on designing vanity items available to a small wealthy subsection of Eve, the regular subscriber is being ignored. The guys designing the Ishukone Scorpion could have been updating the uglier standard models instead. The guys who built the NEX UI could have been fixing the corp or LP store UI instead. And so on.
Alindra Starweaver	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:14:00 - [13] SO ... these are the "micro" purchases? Hopefully there will be a re-think on the prices very soon - like on server reset.
Swynet State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:15:00 - [14] Originally by: Katrina Cortez Articles like that are going to hurt new subscriber rates I'm sure. Really? Are you serious? What planet you come from? Because on this one, the sames wining "blah blah" are the same paying huge amounts of real cash and using hack programs to buy new "super guns" and masks for their "captain". Tetris is free thou.
Cailais Amarr Dawn of a new Empire The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:16:00 - [15] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent. lmao! C. the hydrostatic capsule blog
Zuquar Bonaparte New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:17:00 - [16] havnt cancelld yet, but lets se when they introduce extra powerfull ammo without removing subscription fees. CCP= "primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!"
Dante Marcellus Minmatar Nightmare Brigade	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:18:00 - [17] All the joking aside, there are things I would like to purchase in the store, since I do enjoy a little vanity every so often... but, I'm not sure if the ISK spent would be easily justifiable. I would love to have a monocle though, hmm. And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1m ISK.
General Xenophon Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:18:00 - [18] Edited by: General Xenophon on 22/06/2011 23:19:34 Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude. Did you skip maths in school? Things in TF2 don't cost 68... It's called 'Micro-transactions' not 'Macro-transactions'. Also no place for this BS in Pay to Play games. And if CCP thinks this is the case, and actually makes it happen, can you IMAGINE what this will do to monthly fee games? It's going to RUIN games. ------------------------------------------------ This http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/12238558/a-fictionalized-account-of-the-events-that-led-to-june-21st
Thomas Turnpoint	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Bklyn 1 Microtransactions and in-game advertising are the unfortunate future for mmo's. I don't think in-game advertising would be accepted at all in Eve. I think microtransactions would have been more well received if CCP dealt with the existing game problems first and didn't start out with silly high prices. They messed it up this time. Players have overlooked a lot of problems out of love of the game and what it represents. I think a lot of that goodwill has been squandered with the blatant cash grab. This is unfortunate. The "in-game advertising" angle is, I suspect, what the whole deal is with forcing people into the CQ (they've said the option to turn it off is temporary). That big TV screen in there that is constantly showing info on the game will probably get about 3months run time before we see the first 5second spot for NVidia or, worse yet, World of Darkness.
Isil Rahsen Gallente Ferrum Superum	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:19:00 - [20] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent. You sir, have made me laugh heartily.

RensPriceChecker2	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:20:00 - [21] in german: http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/eve-online/news/eve_online,37711,2323750.html http://www.golem.de/1106/84384.html
Zuquar Bonaparte New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:21:00 - [22] Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude. i love microtransactions, it makes me able to play games for free within limits. "primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!"
Angel of Night	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:22:00 - [23] Used to care, but now CCP is only part of the history to me. Good luck with the new playerbase.
Ioci Gallente Space Mermaids	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:23:00 - [24] These guys are all bought and paid for with Adverts. It just tells me CCP haven't advertised with them. Back when Evony first came on the scene, they had cash stores that would make you puke but they also had an Advertisement campaign that ran deep and nobody said **** about thier over priced very disposeable items store. When EVE C-Store sells 15 minute SP speed ups for $5.00 they will be on Evony level. When CCO throw the Advert money around Evony did, we won't hear about it.
Emiko P'eng Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent. Hehe! look at the LulzSec's banner image! BBC Technology: - LulzSec opens hack request line It is a man with a monocle! One of the Devs is a LulzSec inside man, tasked with bring down EVE from within! I wonder if he will empty CCP's corporate Bank account before he leaves, for the final true revenge
Dograzor The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:26:00 - [26] Life is about Action & Reaction. Reap what you Sow. etc. All major cultures have sayings that come down to this basic message. **** off the player base like this, and you need to deal with the consequences CCP. - "We don't gank, we just apply force in a disproportionate manner during an uneven tactical combat situation to maximize revenue and increase shareholder value"
Alissa Solette	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:27:00 - [27] Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" I feel the same way... EVE players used to be the elitist bastards of the MMO-geeks... now we're the noobs with the overprized monocles.
Morgan Polaris	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:27:00 - [28] Originally by: Takseen I'm not sure the $2.50 Oblivion horse armour is a fair comparison. Actually, that's more on the dot than anything. Oblivion is a single-player game. Incarna will be a single-player experience for a fairly long time to come. To be fair, we have portraits, but a large selection on that market can't be shown on there anyway. It's lame money-grabbing, ignoring any useful concepts on microtransactions along the way. Customers need to be eased (some say suckered) into the whole idea. Now it's just going to end up to be made for douchebags, by douchebags.
Bodrul Caldari Paragon. Nulli Tertius	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:29:00 - [29] got a article in the works for tomorrow not so sugar coated O_o what CCP marketing were thinking at the time (how degrade the image of eveonline?) ............ "you dont need a reason or a three piece suit to argue the truth" Game Reviews
Erichk Knaar Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:30:00 - [30] Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent. Maybe that's the monocle's true power. What other power might it secretly have! When you put it on, you troll poor people.

Grimnir	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:31:00 - [31] This just in, 3 online articles == worldwide mockery!
General Xenophon Caldari Infinite Improbability Inc -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Alissa Solette Edited by: Alissa Solette on 22/06/2011 23:28:07 Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" I feel the same way... EVE players used to be the elitist bastards of the MMO-geeks... now we're the noobs with the item mall and overprized monocles. shudder Quite fking true. It's AMAZING how much bull**** we put up with from CCP and they STILL think they can screw us over time and time again without any consequences whatsoever because they have an undying loyal fanbase- whom they basically give the finger to in most of the patches and game changes of late. WELL DONE CCP! Keep testing your playerbase and see how long your farce of a business keeps operating! ----------------------------------------------- One stupid item in a 'pay to play' game shouldn't cost 5 months of playtime to buy in an item shop!
Uglavitch Nefrex Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:33:00 - [33] CCP are a JOKE!!!!!!
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:35:00 - [34] Now get them to link the internal mini-magazine 'Fearless' (should be 'Clueless'.) Soundwave admits to being a dishonest shill for CCP and confirms that in spite of their lies, they still intend to make microtransactions for far more than vanity items: "I would like virtual goods sales in EVE. In fact, I'd like to sell a lot more than vanity items. Does this mean I'm an evil capitalist ...? Let's hope not, although that's the impression I get sometimes when interacting with our customers. There is a pretty overwhelming perception amongst EVE players that these changes are bad. I think they're brilliant, but our players don't. We're going to face an uphill struggle, and the reason many of us never talk about this publically [sic] is that we'd be burned at the stake by the players."
San Severina Minmatar Autocannons Anonymous	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:38:00 - [35] Originally by: Uglavitch Nefrex CCP are a JOKE!!!!!! QFT
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:41:00 - [36] Originally by: Grimnir This just in, 3 online articles == worldwide mockery! Cross posting myself.. Quote: The world is catching on tho slowly... Some are already post in this thread so sorry for hijacking them. http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-now-sells-70-monocles/ http://blog.mmoga.com/2011/06/eve-online-charging-68-real-dollars-for-space-monocles/ http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/21/controversy-brewing-over-eve-online-microtransactions/ http://www.vg247.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/22/eek-eves-clothing-and-cash-crisis/ http://www.gbgamer.net/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ Pretty clear right?
Ranka Mei Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:41:00 - [37] Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/06/2011 22:59:35 PC Gamer - Eve Online now selling $70 monocles Quote: If youÆve followed that, youÆll have realised that in real money terms the clothes cost around $17.50 each and the implant costs more than $70.00 (or four months subscription). An astonishing amount for an item with no in game functionality. For comparison, BethesdaÆs often mocked Horse Armour DLC cost $2.50 on release, some 28 times less. Kotaku - Eve Online is selling horse armour in space Quote: While none of this stuff is compulsory in any way, and is targeted at EVE tragics who have more money than sense, youÆd think CCP would have been a little more subtle about fleecing the devoted. And the original: Joystiq - Controversy brewing over Eve Online microtransactions Will be sure to keep this updated as more articles are posted! Sad to say it, but CCP does deserve the mockery in this case. --
Jovan Geldon Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:43:00 - [38] I would be very interested to know exactly how many monocles have been sold so far, actually.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.22 23:48:00 - [39] Originally by: Chidori kun Originally by: Grimnir This just in, 3 online articles == worldwide mockery! Cross posting myself.. Quote: The world is catching on tho slowly... Some are already post in this thread so sorry for hijacking them. http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-now-sells-70-monocles/ http://blog.mmoga.com/2011/06/eve-online-charging-68-real-dollars-for-space-monocles/ http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/21/controversy-brewing-over-eve-online-microtransactions/ http://www.vg247.com/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/22/eek-eves-clothing-and-cash-crisis/ http://www.gbgamer.net/2011/06/22/eve-online-economy-upset-by-avatar-items/ Pretty clear right? Thanks, added all those you listed!
Ejit Amarr STD contractors	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:13:00 - [40] Those articles are all well and good. And it's nice to see some exposure of these issues outside the community, But they all have one thing in common. none of them have mentioned the real problems that have arisen with this patch. I'm kinda on the fence with regards to micro\mega transactions, If you don't like it, ignore it. Hardly game breaking stuff. But there was little or no mention of just how bad CQ is, no mention of the reported hardware issues, shoddy programming..etc etc Those are the real issues that should be brought to light, not how much a stupid ingame vanity item is!!!

Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Jada Maroo Thanks, added all those you listed! Not a problem your welcome :)
Isil Rahsen Gallente Ferrum Superum	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:21:00 - [42] Here's another http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/22/rumour-leaked-document-shows-ccps-microtransaction-plans/
Morgan Polaris	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:22:00 - [43] Originally by: Ejit Those articles are all well and good. And it's nice to see some exposure of these issues outside the community, But they all have one thing in common. none of them have mentioned the real problems that have arisen with this patch. I'm kinda on the fence with regards to micro\mega transactions, If you don't like it, ignore it. Hardly game breaking stuff. But there was little or no mention of just how bad CQ is, no mention of the reported hardware issues, shoddy programming..etc etc Those are the real issues that should be brought to light, not how much a stupid ingame vanity item is!!! That's just the regular stuff. CCP used to get away with that. Now we know they have no real interest in actually fixing EVE but for their money grabbing schemes. CQ is there to accommodate MT (M is for macro), PI is there to accommodate Dust, which will be MT-based. Given that they're off to a great start (sarcastic), this just doesn't bode well.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:22:00 - [44] Damn thats a lot of articles
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 00:25:00 - [45] Edited by: Chidori kun on 23/06/2011 00:26:41 Originally by: Ejit Those articles are all well and good. And it's nice to see some exposure of these issues outside the community, But they all have one thing in common. none of them have mentioned the real problems that have arisen with this patch. I'm kinda on the fence with regards to micro\mega transactions, If you don't like it, ignore it. Hardly game breaking stuff. But there was little or no mention of just how bad CQ is, no mention of the reported hardware issues, shoddy programming..etc etc Those are the real issues that should be brought to light, not how much a stupid ingame vanity item is!!! Well i am not sure about game breaking stuff happening in EvE all I know is it works fine for me. Maybe few little bugs I seen mostly graphics atm but did not fully jumped in yet. CQ works with out a flaw for me though I a pretty good system but that is a other discussion all together. The point in that articles is the pricing related to RL money if you gonna buy them or not is also besides the point. Chid
DarkJacena	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:24:00 - [46] No response from CCP. Such an amazing blunder by whoever's in charge. This game will die horribly if they don't wake up, and fast.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:30:00 - [47] Originally by: DarkJacena No response from CCP. Such an amazing blunder by whoever's in charge. This game will die horribly if they don't wake up, and fast. I agree. At the rate this is going, I hope Eve and CCP see their death approaching.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:39:00 - [48] This needs to be bumped
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:39:00 - [49] Sad to say, but I am inclined to agree.
Vin Hellsing	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:40:00 - [50] Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude. I only bought the spy pack. Everything else was just fluff. This NeX thing is no different. The problem is that prices for the MannConomy was reasonable. $20 for a VERY LARGE PACK of items. In EVE, we're spending more than $20 on a single shirt. A shirt that we can't even wear in real life. See the difference?

cyclobs Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.23 01:52:00 - [51] :ccp: :excellence:
Gutuie	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:04:00 - [52] Originally by: cyclobs :ccp: :excellence: agree they work so hard to make a room and some minor fixes ...but.... they did it, ofcourse they screw all station
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:16:00 - [53] Originally by: Alley Specter Originally by: DarkJacena No response from CCP. Such an amazing blunder by whoever's in charge. This game will die horribly if they don't wake up, and fast. I agree. At the rate this is going, I hope Eve and CCP see their death approaching. They'll be needing a timemachine with a range of about 12 months. It's all done, they were told by many that they needed to focus on product used by existing customers, but the apparent strength and elegance of the idea blinded them.
Tobias Sjodin Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:20:00 - [54] It's pretty hard to take **** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. HABIT
45 Longslide	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:23:00 - [55] INCARNA - Icelandic for Self Inflicted Gunshot Wound to the Head. Which dev was it that wanted and expansion called Total Hell Death ? LOL you got it baby. D.I.A.F.
Mars Theran Caldari EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:24:00 - [56] Edited by: Mars Theran on 23/06/2011 02:25:30 Interesting how CCP's 'Internal Newsletter' is so poorly hashed together, and was that Michael Douglas at the top? Sorry, waste of time, and same article from the other post for Soundwave. edit: Oh, btw, the Caldari Logo on the banner behind the Dusties is backwards.
Dimitri Fukoyama	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:25:00 - [57] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take **** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. OH REALLY? THANKS SHERLOCK
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 02:56:00 - [58] We must keep player awareness up.
Pace eGuerra	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:03:00 - [59] Originally by: General Xenophon Also no place for this BS in Pay to Play games. I totally agree. Pay to play subscriptions means that revenue is directly tied to entertainment value and playability. It means the producer is directly engaged with the game, it's mechanics, and the reasons why people subscribe. The better the gameplay, the more amazing the experience, the higher the subscriptions, the higher the revenue. Moving to the "buy useless stuff for $$$$" model just encourages the producer to make more useless stuff.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:04:00 - [60] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take **** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. Dude, you need to read the leaked pdf. CCP has some big plans. ... If you like choice please support this topic in the Assembly Hall. Thanks.

Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:29:00 - [61] Edited by: Alley Specter on 23/06/2011 03:33:10 Edited by: Alley Specter on 23/06/2011 03:30:56 Bump Oh, and Link 1 http://rift.chromebits.net/2011/06/alleged-leak-of-internal-ccp-memo/Linkage
Yoa Loother	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:32:00 - [62] Real problem is that it shines more than a uncomfortable light on the EVE PLAYERS! Quote: Oh, you¦re playing that crazy game with the 60$ monocles? Eh, nice. So much for EVE-elitism.. _ .. darn
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 03:45:00 - [63] Keep it up. We need more publicity for this.
Georn VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Strategic Operations Brigade	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:13:00 - [64] You are all a bunch of whiners! First you complain about possible micro-transactions and now, when CCP introduces macro-transactions, it isn`t right either... Make up your minds, jeez... ____________ nerf metagaming, boost fun
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:32:00 - [65] heres some more: Ten ton hammer Gamer Gaia
Zleon Leigh	Posted - 2011.06.23 04:57:00 - [66] Edited by: Zleon Leigh on 23/06/2011 04:58:20 Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" Corp just recruited several brand new players, ranging from a few days to a couple of weeks old. I actually felt totally embarrassed when seeing them on yesterday - worried that they were going to pop out with a "WTF have I gotten myself into??" question/comment. Thank god they didn't know enough yet to start asking uncomfortable questions - other than - "are patch days DT always this bad?" Edit: Typoitis
Justin Cody Caldari T.A.L.O.N. Company	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:00:00 - [67] Originally by: Erichk Knaar Originally by: Jada Maroo Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint It would appear that a single monocle has done more damage in less time to CCP than a DDoS by a group of hackers. That's talent. Maybe that's the monocle's true power. What other power might it secretly have! When you put it on, you troll poor people. I love you Remind people that profit is the difference between revenue and expense. This makes you look smart. Scott Adams
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:55:00 - [68] I am running out of text in the first post. Soon Ill have to switch to links only!
Panda Name Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2011.06.23 05:58:00 - [69] good work, jada maroo.
Fractal Muse	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:16:00 - [70] Originally by: Yoa Loother Real problem is that it shines more than a uncomfortable light on the EVE PLAYERS! Quote: Oh, you¦re playing that crazy game with the 60$ monocles? Eh, nice. So much for EVE-elitism.. That's part of why I unsubbed. I don't want to be associated with EVE with this type of thing going on. Seriously, if I tell my friends at this point that I still play EVE... Then take with it walking (slow motion walking) with bad controls (wasd not doing what is expected) and the rest of it.. not worth it any longer.

Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:33:00 - [71] In case of CCP doing something that would delete this or the other threads, I advise that we archive the links to repost on the new boards
Estephania Independent Political Analysts	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:36:00 - [72] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint The "in-game advertising" angle is, I suspect, what the whole deal is with forcing people into the CQ (they've said the option to turn it off is temporary). That big TV screen in there that is constantly showing info on the game will probably get about 3months run time before we see the first 5second spot for NVidia or, worse yet, World of Darkness. The would be hilarious. Imagine a captain, relaxing on a sofa in the CQ and on the big TV screen there's an ad about vampires and werewolves.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:41:00 - [73] I got your back Jada... and the post under yours. :)
Jon D'Agrvainio	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:44:00 - [74] Nice compilation of articles. Glad CCP is getting the press coverage it has worked so hard to seek out.
Fouljin	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:52:00 - [75] It's not stupid who asks but the stupid is the one who pays. I don't really give a flying ****ck what some stupid vanity item like monocle costs. It can cost 1000Ç for all I care. Eve is a game about spaceships. 99% of my eveplaying time I'm in space, shooting something. I mean our avatars are now hanging in their small room alone. Why even bother to put up some vanity items? You guys like to play barbies also? Doll house maybe? pfffht. Roses are #FF0000, Violets are ##0000FF, all my base are belong to you...
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:57:00 - [76] Originally by: Fouljin It's not stupid who asks but the stupid is the one who pays. I don't really give a flying ****ck what some stupid vanity item like monocle costs. It can cost 1000Ç for all I care. Eve is a game about spaceships. 99% of my eveplaying time I'm in space, shooting something. I mean our avatars are now hanging in their small room alone. Why even bother to put up some vanity items? You guys like to play barbies also? Doll house maybe? pfffht. I advise you take a look at this thread.
Nominol	Posted - 2011.06.23 06:58:00 - [77] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take ** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. Well that's easy to say when "your own"** leadership is threatening to Ban your asses for buying any of the items, even with the Isk Tree you guys all have in the Drone region...
ifollowed through	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:02:00 - [78] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take ** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. no but i am having to continue playing the game in it's broken state as they are too bust making ing monocles to fix it you ignorant **
Karash Amerius Sutoka	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:17:00 - [79] I am all for $70 pixels if they get destroyed when you are podded. ========================= Karash Amerius - Operative - Sutoka Fighting Broke - A Eve Online Blog =========================
Leon Tango	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:33:00 - [80] French one : http://www.factornews.com/news-32186-Eve_Online_fait_plus_fort_que_l_armure_d.html

Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:38:00 - [81] Edited by: Ciar Meara on 23/06/2011 07:38:47 Originally by: Alissa Solette I feel the same way... EVE players used to be the elitist bastards of the MMO-geeks... now we're the noobs with the item mall and overprized monocles. shudder This! Is what happens when managers take over. Originally by: Karash Amerius I am all for $70 pixels if they get destroyed when you are podded. They don't, its not like its an implant or something! ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
Madcapnl The Rising Stars -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:43:00 - [82] Edited by: Madcapnl on 23/06/2011 07:43:11 <<meanwhile at the latest CCP damage control meeting>> "We are getting BAD press instead of GOOD press? How can that be? Our expansion is as awesome sauce as we say it is!" , "What? we can't put the fire out anymore? The fire is burning a whole in the subscription numbers? woot?" , "But, but, but.....why didn't any of our customers warn us?"........ "Oh wait"
Tony SoXai	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:43:00 - [83] Originally by: Dante Marcellus And if you're reading this, you've fallen into a signature trap. You owe me 1mil isk. NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Oh wait it's his sig.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 07:58:00 - [84] This thread will live, no matter the cost. CCP has to have the bad publicity rubbed in their face.
Ned Black	Posted - 2011.06.23 08:08:00 - [85] Originally by: Fouljin It's not stupid who asks but the stupid is the one who pays. I don't really give a flying ****ck what some stupid vanity item like monocle costs. It can cost 1000Ç for all I care. Eve is a game about spaceships. 99% of my eveplaying time I'm in space, shooting something. I mean our avatars are now hanging in their small room alone. Why even bother to put up some vanity items? You guys like to play barbies also? Doll house maybe? pfffht. I admitably guffawed when I opened up the gold shop and saw the prices... not that it really matters to me since I will never by stuff like that anyway... but... just as you say I spend 90 (if not more since I live in WHs) out in space shooting stuff. What kind of annoys me is that they have spent months and months to get this out... and in the end what this expansion really was is a tight room, turrets that come out of your ship and some bug fixes. Personally I would have liked it a lot better if they would have spent all that time on fixing things that need fixing instead of this visual fluff that will keep the average player occupied for about 2 minutes before they turn it off. If anyone want to buy $60 monocle then fine, if you wish to trade 4 months of game time for a pair of useless monocles the fine, go right ahead, I will think you are a complete lunatic no matter if you bought the plexes with isk or not... but then again, who am I to judge the one buying them.
Tobaf	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:30:00 - [86] Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude. The difference here is TF2 is a $20 one time fee FPS, and yes it hurt the TF2 total population. While this is an MMO with a 15 a month subscription fee. We shouldn't need to pay for our subscription fees should be going to. Also if they're hurting for players perhaps they could lower sub fees down to $10 they could bring in more people that way.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:39:00 - [87] Originally by: Leon Tango French one : http://www.factornews.com/news-32186-Eve_Online_fait_plus_fort_que_l_armure_d.html Added, and updated the original post with a new logo!
Tla Atij	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:40:00 - [88] Originally by: Jada Maroo
Captain Travaras	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:44:00 - [89] is great to see the PDF document was leaked. Hopefully CCP will start to take notice of things now that some of their intentions in a private document are readily available for all to see what a joke its starting to become
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:51:00 - [90] Edited by: Wacktopia on 23/06/2011 09:53:14 Originally by: Takseen I'm not sure the $2.50 Oblivion horse armour is a fair comparison. A better one would be the $25 dollar mounts Blizzad sold to their playerbase. And people have bought codes for Trading Card Game reward mounts on EBay for hundreds of dollars. Personally I'm a bit bemused by the whole fuss here. Any of the in-game cosmetic items can be purchased using in-game currency. And the rarer items wouldn't have any prestige attached to them if any level 4 mission grinder could buy them. Even in-game advantages aren't a new thing. Power of Two promotion anyone? Scouting alts, hauler alts, repping alts, probing alts, supercap alts. All ways to turn $ into in-game benefits that can't be earned through normal gameplay. The only point I'd agree with is that by spending all this time on designing vanity items available to a small wealthy subsection of Eve, the regular subscriber is being ignored. The guys designing the Ishukone Scorpion could have been updating the uglier standard models instead. The guys who built the NEX UI could have been fixing the corp or LP store UI instead. And so on. I think it is fair to compare it to the horse armor. The $25 mounts from WoW are somewhat more significant than the monocle because they a) actually do something b) are a lot more 'significant' than a piece of eyewear. Tbh even I, with my massive scepticism of MT in EVE, would probably spend $2.50 for a monocle for lols. And that's saying a lot. Originally by: Alley Specter In case of CCP doing something that would delete this or the other threads, I advise that we archive the links to repost on the new boards eve-search.com. Although tbh I could see Chribba pulling that if he has to spend $99 just to help out the community for free?

Fi1ippo Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:52:00 - [91] Its really easy. Dont buy it. No one is forcing you to spend 70 bucks on a VANITY ITEM with NO game function whatsoever. lol. The stupidity here is simply astonishing. Besides you will be back and resbubbing in a matter of weeks, buying clothes to RP your huge bewbs with in game. Instead of jumping on the band wagon because you are simply that bored, or just because you think its cool, why dont you go outside for a while or go sleep it off to clear your head. "The man behind the mask is a Maverik Letting off buck-ten shots for the hat trick." From the song Overtime (Maverik Lacrosse Commercial), by D.One. Life = Lax
Jennifer Starling Imperial Navy Forum Patrol	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:54:00 - [92] Originally by: Wacktopia I think it is fair to compare it to DLC. The $25 mounts from WoW are somewhat more significant than the monocle because they a) actually do something b) are a lot more 'significant' than a piece of eyewear. Tbh even I, with my massive scepticism of MT in EVE, would probably spend $2.50 for a monocle for lols. And that's saying a lot. Aion prices: Pet: $6.00 Weapon skin: $7.00 (compare ship paintjob) Whole clothes set: $5.00 Sunglasses pack: $3.50 Full character remake: $7.00 (compare bloodline change) These feel more like "normal" prices. Not just one skirt for $15.00; a whole clothes set (shirt, pants, shoes, jacket) would be like $60.00, which is slightly .. "overpriced".
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb	Posted - 2011.06.23 09:56:00 - [93] Originally by: Fi1ippo Its really easy. Dont buy it. No one is forcing you to spend 70 bucks on a VANITY ITEM with NO game function whatsoever. lol. The stupidity here is simply astonishing. Yeah you say that now... but how about CCP bring in T4 ships and say "hey you can buy them in the shop and btw that's the only place you can buy them". Yeah they said "vanity only" but nothing is binding them to that. They could easily change. This $70 monocle farce has proved their standing to the player base tbh. Don't lose sight of that fact... this 'do no evil' speech is nothing new.
Tla Atij	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:04:00 - [94] CCP: Greed is Good? - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-23-ccp-greed-is-good
Fabster Gallente Spacerats	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:09:00 - [95] Edited by: Fabster on 23/06/2011 10:10:40 Originally by: Madcapnl Edited by: Madcapnl on 23/06/2011 07:43:11 <<meanwhile at the latest CCP damage control meeting>> "We are getting BAD press instead of GOOD press? How can that be? Our expansion is as awesome sauce as we say it is!" , "What? we can't put the fire out anymore? The fire is burning a whole in the subscription numbers? woot?" , "But, but, but.....why didn't any of our customers warn us?"........ "Oh wait" WE DIDN'T LISTEN! Just reminded of this one. Linkage
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:19:00 - [96] Originally by: Tla Atij CCP: Greed is Good? - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-23-ccp-greed-is-good It is... ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :)
Solosky	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:25:00 - [97] > theyÆre probably better classed as 'macro-transactions'. True - nothing "micro" in 60 bucks monocle price. Hilarious news headers all around - bravo, CCP! I think prices will be lowered later with or without compensations for early adopters in form of ISK.
leth ghost	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:33:00 - [98] Originally by: Tla Atij CCP: Greed is Good? - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-23-ccp-greed-is-good get that linked on first post, its more worrying than item pricing
Aedeal	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:35:00 - [99] Well, as far as conspiracy theories go, it's a good way to make sure that only a few people buy the items so you can make sure they're working as intended :P
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:39:00 - [100] Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte havnt cancelld yet, but lets se when they introduce extra powerfull ammo without removing subscription fees. CCP= I've not cancelled yet either, if they go beyond pure vanity items then I would.

Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:41:00 - [101] Originally by: Katrina Cortez I got your back Jada... and the post under yours. :) Could you please put this link and the links therein on your post? Thanks The Monocle Debacle
Rannis Ironfist Minmatar Ironfist Industrial Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.23 10:44:00 - [102] in b4 having to trade in a Nyx for Ishukone Scorp
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2011.06.23 11:04:00 - [103] Originally by: Tla Atij Originally by: Jada Maroo aaaahahahaahah awesome
Temerit	Posted - 2011.06.23 11:46:00 - [104] That picture is absolute genius.
Madcapnl The Rising Stars -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:18:00 - [105] About 20 articles now, eh? Maybe now you listen, CCP?
Tla Atij	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:19:00 - [106] Originally by: Madcapnl About 20 articles now, eh? Maybe now you listen, CCP? Nah, they like free publicity. New players will flock to eve because, after all, we ARE selling 80$ monocles!
Madcapnl The Rising Stars -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:22:00 - [107] I saw someone posting somewhere: "Hmmm buying a new monocle or Portal 2". I lolled.
Prince Kobol	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:25:00 - [108] The great thing about these reports is that game companies tend not give a crap about what players say on the forums, its when well known and respected gaming review and news sites start taking the ****, you know you are in trouble.
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:53:00 - [109] Originally by: HeIIfire11 Originally by: Tla Atij Originally by: Jada Maroo removed picture aaaahahahaahah awesome ROFLMAO +10000
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:57:00 - [110] Originally by: Prince Kobol The great thing about these reports is that game companies tend not give a crap about what players say on the forums, its when well known and respected gaming review and news sites start taking the ****, you know you are in trouble. Well yes and no how many big sites have CCP in the pocket... ow conspiracy theorycrafting... oops sorry

Ashen Angel Minmatar Scarey Contractors	Posted - 2011.06.23 12:59:00 - [111] Originally by: Chidori kun Originally by: Prince Kobol The great thing about these reports is that game companies tend not give a crap about what players say on the forums, its when well known and respected gaming review and news sites start taking the ****, you know you are in trouble. Well yes and no how many big sites have CCP in the pocket... ow conspiracy theorycrafting... oops sorry How many can see the writing on the wall? Remember how many SOE had in their pocket, but even then they couldn't save them with NGE. They read the storm clouds and told them heck, yer screwed and wrote what mattered. EveBoard Link
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:05:00 - [112] Edited by: Chidori kun on 23/06/2011 13:06:08 here is a other one from one of the CSM peeps.. http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com// I start to wonder if they ever knew to get this big sheitstorm heading to Iceland...
Morgan Polaris	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:15:00 - [113] Originally by: Chidori kun Edited by: Chidori kun on 23/06/2011 13:06:08 here is a other one from one of the CSM peeps.. http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com// I start to wonder if they ever knew to get this big sheitstorm heading to Iceland... It wasn't hard to predict. I was stunned with some disbelieve in those faithful few minutes of bliss when walking around in my room. First thing I did was seeing if I could walk around naked (which you should be able to in your private chambers, and my CC says my mind should be able to handle it), then I had a look at the store. I quickly hit the forums, saw the help channel referred to, and after seeing some ridiculous RP make believe from CCP employees themselves, and no answers on whether these prices are intended, I knew. Then I tipped Kotaku, RPS, Massivly and the Escapist. Donations accepted: 1BpQEYT7aSUNM863BV67FPxyv1cpxr74uu
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:15:00 - [114] Originally by: Chidori kun Edited by: Chidori kun on 23/06/2011 13:06:08 here is a other one from one of the CSM peeps.. http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com// I start to wonder if they ever knew to get this big sheitstorm heading to Iceland... So the CSM didn't knew anything on it... interesting.
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:19:00 - [115] Originally by: Morgan Polaris Originally by: Chidori kun Edited by: Chidori kun on 23/06/2011 13:06:08 here is a other one from one of the CSM peeps.. http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com// I start to wonder if they ever knew to get this big sheitstorm heading to Iceland... It wasn't hard to predict. I was stunned with some disbelieve in those faithful few minutes of bliss when walking around in my room. First thing I did was seeing if I could walk around naked (which you should be able to in your private chambers, and my CC says my mind should be able to handle it), then I had a look at the store. I quickly hit the forums, saw the help channel referred to, and after seeing some ridiculous RP make believe from CCP employees themselves, and no answers on whether these prices are intended, I knew. Then I tipped Kotaku, RPS, Massivly and the Escapist. I tipped IGN UK but still no article either the cat is in the bag there or they don't care I think the last though
Chidori kun Minmatar Starship Operating BastardZ	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:22:00 - [116] Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Originally by: Chidori kun Edited by: Chidori kun on 23/06/2011 13:06:08 here is a other one from one of the CSM peeps.. http://seleenes-sandbox.blogspot.com// I start to wonder if they ever knew to get this big sheitstorm heading to Iceland... So the CSM didn't knew anything on it... interesting. Yeah well can be damage control or the truth I hope the truth though
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.23 13:25:00 - [117] Edited by: MotherMoon on 23/06/2011 13:27:34 Originally by: Ioci These guys are all bought and paid for with Adverts. It just tells me CCP haven't advertised with them. Back when Evony first came on the scene, they had cash stores that would make you puke but they also had an Advertisement campaign that ran deep and nobody said **** about thier over priced very disposeable items store. When EVE C-Store sells 15 minute SP speed ups for $5.00 they will be on Evony level. When CCO throw the Advert money around Evony did, we won't hear about it. wait a minutue are you kidding me? eve was PC game of the year, and was on the front cover rock paper shotgun had a exclusive rights to stream fanfest content 3 years ago before ccp itself streamed it kotaku has been one of the driving forces behind dust and at once point had a full screen eve background eurogamer had 1st access to walking in stations, with screenshots never even released on the eve-o site Also it's not about the prces. It the fact they never told us WHY. and more so that they lied to the CSM just a month before it went live. SO ON
Bloodpetal Mimidae Risk Solutions	Posted - 2011.06.23 15:40:00 - [118] Moar articles keep coming o.o ____________________________________________________ Bastet :: Captain
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.23 15:42:00 - [119] Edited by: Miilla on 23/06/2011 15:43:29 Somebody get this on SLASHDOT.ORG :) If CCP want press coverage, lets give it to em. Remember, CCP PAY for bandwidth usage :) g
General Xenophon	Posted - 2011.06.23 15:53:00 - [120] Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 15:58:00 Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 15:57:18 Originally by: Fi1ippo Its really easy. Dont buy it. No one is forcing you to spend 70 bucks on a VANITY ITEM with NO game function whatsoever. lol. The stupidity here is simply astonishing. Besides you will be back and resbubbing in a matter of weeks, buying clothes to RP your huge bewbs with in game. Instead of jumping on the band wagon because you are simply that bored, or just because you think its cool, why dont you go outside for a while or go sleep it off to clear your head. Just as stupid as not realizing that this 'Item Shop' is going to some day offer 'gold ammunition' and ships which players can buy with RL cash. Anyone who doesn't realize the damage this will do to Eve is completely and utterly ******ed. Going along with this stupid money grubbing change implemented, like some stupid herp derp lamb without a brain is totally hilarious. Good work people. Maybe next time CCP takes a crap in the next patch too the mindless followers will thank CCP for giving them precious gems and gold to play with. ----------------------------------------------- One stupid item in a 'pay to play' game shouldn't cost 5 months worth of playtime to buy in an item shop!

Florestan Bronstein draketrain	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:00:00 - [121] Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 23/06/2011 16:03:35 Originally by: Miilla Somebody get this on SLASHDOT.ORG :) If CCP want press coverage, lets give it to em. there is already a poorly worded story on this in the firehose. Quote: "CCP Games, who develops the popular MMO Eve Online seems to have stirred several hornets nests at once during a major expansion. First was their idea of micro transactions, on item costing $60 by itself. Second was a leaked memo (linked below) detailing future plans for more micro transactions, ones that would give players a clear advantage. This has players on the forums outraged, there is even a forum post dedicated to articles from gaming magazines, sites, and blogs that show CCP in a bad light. http://rift.chromebits.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ccp_bulletin1.pdf http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534723" Doubt this will make it to the frontpage but you can upvote it if you want... Linkage maybe the editors will turn the summary into something more readable /sarcasm
Bodrul Caldari Paragon. Nulli Tertius	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:39:00 - [122] wanted to share ............ "you dont need a reason or a three piece suit to argue the truth" Game Reviews
Joseph Dreadloch Dread Space Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:41:00 - [123] Speaking of CCP Mockery, check out this old CCP April fools joke. http://i54.tinypic.com/25tb2q8.jpg
Wile EC	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:44:00 - [124] Edited by: Wile EC on 23/06/2011 16:44:19 Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/06/2011 10:38:16 Joystiq - Controversy brewing over Eve Online microtransactions - "The current prices on items in the Noble Exchange are far above typical microtransaction charges and an order of magnitude higher than expected" Massively - Rumour: Leaked document shows CCP's microtransaction plans Eurogamer - CCP: Greed is good? PC Gamer - Eve Online now selling $70 monocles - "The cost of these items is far, far beyond most DLC prices" Kotaku - Eve Online is selling horse armour in space - "youÆd think CCP would have been a little more subtle about fleecing the devoted" VG247 - EVE Online economy upset by avatar items - "theyÆre probably better classed as 'macro-transactions'." MMOGA - Eve Online Charging 68 Real Dollars For Space Monocles - "quite one of the most ludicrous cases of overpriced DLC I have ever heard" RockPaperShotgun - Eek: EVEÆs Clothing And Cash Crisis - "The vanity items appear to have been comically overpriced." Gamer Gaia - "the most ludicrous cases of overpriced DLC I have ever heard" Games On Net - "These prices match or often exceed actual real-world prices for the same items (minus the robotic eye) which leads players to wonder what, exactly, is going on." In German: Golem - KapitSnsquartiere und 50-Euro-Monokel Gamestar - Eve Online - Incarna-Update ver÷ffentlicht, Mondpreise im Itemshop En francaise! Factor News - Eve Online fait plus fort que l'armure de cheval Will be sure to keep this updated as more articles are posted! Where do they find so many dumb people who think you have to pay real money for PLEX? Or are these the people who are so bad that they can't earn 400m isk? WAAA Call the WAABULANCE, I want a pretty eye piece but I suck at EVE and my mommy won't buy me PLEX WAAAAAAA Sour grapes.
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:48:00 - [125] Originally by: Wile EC Where do they find so many dumb people who think you have to pay real money for PLEX? Or are these the people who are so bad that they can't earn 400m isk? WAAA Call the WAABULANCE, I want a pretty eye piece but I suck at EVE and my mommy won't buy me PLEX WAAAAAAA Sour grapes. All PLEX are paid for with RL currency. You might use isk for PLEX ingame, but those PLEX got into the game because someone paid for them with RL currency.
General Xenophon	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:50:00 - [126] Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 16:53:41 Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 16:51:04 Edited by: General Xenophon on 23/06/2011 16:50:34 Originally by: Wile EC Edited by: Wile EC on 23/06/2011 16:44:19 Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/06/2011 10:38:16 Will be sure to keep this updated as more articles are posted! Where do they find so many dumb people who think you have to pay real money for PLEX? LOL I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT GUYS! LISTEN TO ME! YER ALL STOOPID! LLLOOOLL!11! -Fixed- ----------------------------------------------- One stupid item in a 'pay to play' game shouldn't cost 5 months worth of playtime to buy in an item shop!
Libria Kyzal Gallente Fags R Us	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:50:00 - [127] Originally by: Wile EC Where do they find so many dumb people who think you have to pay real money for PLEX? Or are these the people who are so bad that they can't earn 400m isk? WAAA Call the WAABULANCE, I want a pretty eye piece but I suck at EVE and my mommy won't buy me PLEX WAAAAAAA Sour grapes. It's not that I can't afford it, you douchebag, it's that I won't waste my ISK. My Latest Incarna Vlog
Reed Tiburon Caldari Future Corps Sleeper Social Club	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:51:00 - [128] Originally by: General Xenophon Originally by: Wile EC Edited by: Wile EC on 23/06/2011 16:44:19 Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/06/2011 10:38:16 Will be sure to keep this updated as more articles are posted! Where do they find so many dumb people who think you have to pay real money for PLEX? Or are these the people who are so bad that they can't earn 400m isk? WAAA Call the WAABULANCE, I want a pretty eye piece but I suck at EVE and my mommy won't buy me PLEX WAAAAAAA Sour grapes. Moron. Another person who doesn't understand the market. Hey, if I buy a Bentley with $400,000 worth of gold bricks, does that mean the car has no dollar value? If you don't understand why this analogy is relevant, you should stop posting.
Wile EC	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:54:00 - [129] Originally by: Katra Novac Originally by: Wile EC Where do they find so many dumb people who think you have to pay real money for PLEX? Or are these the people who are so bad that they can't earn 400m isk? WAAA Call the WAABULANCE, I want a pretty eye piece but I suck at EVE and my mommy won't buy me PLEX WAAAAAAA Sour grapes. All PLEX are paid for with RL currency. You might use isk for PLEX ingame, but those PLEX got into the game because someone paid for them with RL currency. So what? This is not new.
Zaqar Pator Tech School	Posted - 2011.06.23 16:59:00 - [130] Originally by: Wile EC Where do they find so many dumb people who think you have to pay real money for PLEX? Or are these the people who are so bad that they can't earn 400m isk? WAAA Call the WAABULANCE, I want a pretty eye piece but I suck at EVE and my mommy won't buy me PLEX WAAAAAAA Sour grapes. Heh, good one. I almost thought you were serious for a moment there. -- Originally by: Brian Ballsack please learn to use english if your gonna post

Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 17:38:00 - [131] Don't ever let this die!
Erik Finnegan Gallente Polytechnique Gallenteenne	Posted - 2011.06.23 17:46:00 - [132] One day we'll envy the guys who HAVE the monocles !
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.23 18:19:00 - [133] Edited by: Alley Specter on 23/06/2011 18:20:55 CCP's already a laughingstock. I want to see how much worse it can get. Oh Wait
Jon D'Agrvainio	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:00:00 - [134] Pretty disappointing overall.
Demure Guise	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:04:00 - [135] Edited by: Demure Guise on 23/06/2011 19:05:35 Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" Same as me. Once I was proud to hold up Eve as an example of what MMOs should be. Even WoW doesn't sell items as lame as this at such insane prices, and to think I joined in the mockery when they sold the Sparkly Flying Mount! Eve has plummeted to the depths not even the most superficial of MMOs has plumbed.
Bloodpetal	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:10:00 - [136] The media will win this one for us, even if CCP refuses to listen to us. You're not getting out of this one, Monocle Online. ____________________________________________________ Cost of the week of June 21st
Katra Novac	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:12:00 - [137] Originally by: Erik Finnegan One day we'll envy the guys who HAVE the monocles ! That day will never come.
Camalll	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:20:00 - [138] the picture "eve - monocle" literally made me laugh for 2 minutes. awesome :D
SilentSkills Gallente Tax Evaders Inc.	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:29:00 - [139] go get your shirt today too :D MonocleMonocle The door thread - http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:31:00 - [140] àsomeone needs to get in touch with the Extra Credits guys. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP

Mac Aoidh Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:36:00 - [141] You're forgetting all the recent negative articles regarding the 3rd party development dev blog.
Ethan Bejorn Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:37:00 - [142] Cancelled 3 accounts yesterday.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.23 19:48:00 - [143] Originally by: Tippia àsomeone needs to get in touch with the Extra Credits guys. I like The Escapist... they have some good articles.
Tachibana Kanade	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:38:00 - [144] bumpage
Sister Bliss Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.06.23 21:44:00 - [145] Is there a MT option where I can buy fixes to existing bugs and core broken mechanics? I'd buy that instead of a pair of panties with a hole in the crotch.
Emiko P'eng Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.23 23:13:00 - [146] I just got an email from a colleague at work, enquiring if I had wasted money on a Monocle As it has even made it to one of the forums of his favourite games LOTRO ! LOTROCommunity:- You hate MT Store.. Lucky you don't play Eve
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.24 00:52:00 - [147] Continue spreading the word
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.24 02:19:00 - [148] [UPDATE: The document's authenticity has been confirmed by CCP Pann from CCPs PR department. Massively has a hard-hitting interview in the works with CCP Zulu on the issue]
Cetom	Posted - 2011.06.24 03:00:00 - [149] Jep this macropayment thing sucks !!!!!!!!!!! this prices are far of realety
queue queue Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.06.24 03:16:00 - [150] CCP obviously found the winning formula

TraderTheHut	Posted - 2011.06.24 04:47:00 - [151] Well..... I guess it is Perpetuum full time for now. And Dust514 on PS3 only is lame!
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.24 05:12:00 - [152] http://www.evenews24.com/2011/06/22/greed-is-good-purportedly-leaked-internal-bulletin-shows-ccps-refreshing-new-direction/ Just to archive the article in case of incoming bans.
Marcus Vorenius Instant Annihilation	Posted - 2011.06.24 08:38:00 - [153] Wikipedia could need an update http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansions_of_Eve_Online
E'lisha	Posted - 2011.06.24 09:25:00 - [154] 24 JUN 2011 Eve Online dev responds to player furore
Marcus Vorenius Instant Annihilation	Posted - 2011.06.24 12:59:00 - [155] bumpy
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.24 16:16:00 - [156] Bump
T0KER	Posted - 2011.06.24 16:20:00 - [157] WHAT A JOKE CCP IS
Shield Rep	Posted - 2011.06.24 17:54:00 - [158] ccp are like any game company , greedy **sucker **s , eq2 has a massive successful station store and they will to you will be able to buy skill points within 6 months guaranteed
Bodrul Caldari Paragon. Nulli Tertius	Posted - 2011.06.24 21:43:00 - [159] Greed Pt2 also if anyone else Runs websites or Blogs Follow suit and write something ............ "you dont need a reason or a three piece suit to argue the truth" Game Reviews
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.24 21:51:00 - [160] Added a few new articles. Keep them coming! I am down to a measily 500 characters left on the first post. Never knew there'd be so many.

Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.24 22:00:00 - [161] updated
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.25 01:48:00 - [162] First article on the riots makes the news, check out Kotaku.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.25 03:01:00 - [163] Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 25/06/2011 03:01:41 updated
Kerrisone	Posted - 2011.06.25 03:35:00 - [164] riots http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/25/eve-online-players-protest-against-monocle-pricesmicrotransactions-lasers-involved/ clothes defense http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/24/eve-clothes-defense/ riots http://mmodata.blogspot.com/2011/06/riots-in-eve-against-microtransactions.html riots http://kotaku.com/5815445/furious-over-microtransactions-eve-online-community-explodes-with-rioting It isn't because of Monocles FFS.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.25 03:56:00 - [165] updated links
Nak hak	Posted - 2011.06.25 04:09:00 - [166] It's not a big story until it gets Slashdotted. Damn, where that contact address? Best Regards. Nak hak, The Self-Righteous
Emiko P'eng Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.25 11:24:00 - [167] N4G has linked to the PCGamer Jita Protest rating it a 100degC bulletin (Hot) N4G - Eve Online players protest against microtransactions and monocles. Lasers involved. Plus one very bizarre mention! Due to the swearword filter removing the middle section of ProtesT WATch's all one word website address 'protes**ch.org' you will have to manually past & reconstruct this link sorry! http://news.protes**ch.org.uk/eve-online-players-protest-against-monocle-pricesmicrotransactions-lasers Well I suppose EVE Online is trying to be a 'Real' virtual universe. So why not report it's problems next to Protests in Egypt & Striking School teachers!
Marcus Vorenius Task Force 42	Posted - 2011.06.25 12:06:00 - [168] Originally by: Marcus Vorenius Wikipedia could need an update http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansions_of_Eve_Online Wikipedia is still not updated ----------------------------------------------- "The No A$$HOLE Rule" by Robert Sutton, PhD
Icanti	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:23:00 - [169] Bump.
Bloodpetal Mimidae Risk Solutions	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:30:00 - [170] Any more articles? Put My Wallet Amount Back On The Left

Tosser Galore	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:35:00 - [171] Originally by: Alissa Solette Edited by: Alissa Solette on 22/06/2011 23:28:07 Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" I feel the same way... EVE players used to be the elitist bastards of the MMO-geeks... now we're the noobs with the item mall and overprized monocles. shudder I play spreadsheets NOT second life in space.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:40:00 - [172] It's extra fun to put Hilmar's internal mail next to these external papers. Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. - Does that apply to non-EVE players as well? Predictable feedback from external sources, and quite likely (combined with current playerbase) one or your best means to find new customers? -
Velios M. Corp -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.06.25 15:52:00 - [173] Sheer arrogance from Hilmar... Lets look at what they DO rather than what they SAY. AHOLE.
HeIIfire11	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:00:00 - [174] Anyone send that email to these sites? If not I will.
Kevo Naaras	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:09:00 - [175] Some of those articles are completely missing the point, they seem to suggest that EVE players are only mad because the vanity items cost TOO much, i.e. 'we'd love to buy them CCP , please lower their value though.'
Thodol	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:09:00 - [176] What a disaster for CCP. With two games in the cooker this is a corporation ending PR debacle. Way to **** it all down the drain with hopes vested in a FPS that is almost GUARANTEED to fail or be VERY niche.
Demon Azrakel Gallente Defiant.. Narwhals Ate My Duck	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:21:00 - [177] Originally by: Thodol What a disaster for CCP. With two games in the cooker this is a corporation ending PR debacle. Way to **** it all down the drain with hopes vested in a FPS that is almost GUARANTEED to fail or be VERY niche. They still have Twilight Online
Kerrisone	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:00:00 - [178] Bump. It isn't because of Monocles FFS.
Leon Tango	Posted - 2011.06.25 18:11:00 - [179] Another big article in a notorious french mag' : http://www.canardpc.com/news-52559-eve_online__incarna___les_monocles_de_la_colere_.html
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:02:00 - [180] updated links

Zelphinine	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:12:00 - [181] Someone really needs to go to these news outlets and tell them that the issue is far deeper, longer-running and more complex than just $70 monocles. Long-running unbalances and bugs, forgotten and orphaned content, our subs going to pay for development on other games, CCP's blatant disregard for both the the player base's desires and the body they set up to give them feedback (CSM), the contempt shown by Hilmar in the internal emails . . . It's not $70 monocles.
Ronan Astrum Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing The Paganism Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.25 21:19:00 - [182] Originally by: Zelphinine Someone really needs to go to these news outlets and tell them that the issue is far deeper, longer-running and more complex than just $70 monocles. Long-running unbalances and bugs, forgotten and orphaned content, our subs going to pay for development on other games, CCP's blatant disregard for both the the player base's desires and the body they set up to give them feedback (CSM), the contempt shown by Hilmar in the internal emails . . . It's not $70 monocles. I submitted a story to Slashdot trying to point out that very thing: http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/06/25/1847248/EVE-Online-Players-Rage-Protest-Over-Microtransactions
Biomassed everyoneelse	Posted - 2011.06.25 22:53:00 - [183] Any new articles?
Thodol	Posted - 2011.06.25 23:38:00 - [184] This should be stickied!
Sajad	Posted - 2011.06.26 01:07:00 - [185] SUPPORT
Vincentus	Posted - 2011.06.26 01:30:00 - [186] http://www.9lives.be/gamepublishers/ccp/nieuws/community-eve-online-in-opstand?commentPage=2#comment-top In Dutch, from Belgium
Ioana Cristea	Posted - 2011.06.26 01:38:00 - [187] one article in french : http://www.canardpc.com/news-52559-eve_online__incarna___les_monocles_de_la_colere_.html
SkwisgaarSkwigelf Deliciously Vicious	Posted - 2011.06.26 04:51:00 - [188] everyone needs to do their part and tell them that it's not just about ****** expensive vanity items. Its about communication, condescension, and game changing items. Pay to win is not acceptable. Make our voices heard. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - FREE LIANG FREE HELICITY STOP CCP STOP MICROT
Brother Spaciel	Posted - 2011.06.26 10:37:00 - [189] moar drama bump
Korerin Mayul Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.26 10:41:00 - [190] its a real pitty like 2/3rds of this coverage is about the NEX prices and not about the gameplay effecting MT issue which is actally why CCP are loosing Ç50000 a year and rising in subscription revenue.

robbyx	Posted - 2011.06.26 10:45:00 - [191] Unfortunately for CCP, it goes way beyond just those articles...ive been floating around a few different games i play tonight...LOTRO, DDO, perpetuum, COD, BF, APB and a couple of other....there is a LOT of talk about this, even from people who had never heard of EVE or CCP. They seem to see this and a line drawn in the sand by an evil game company trying to rip of online gamers...and its not going down to well. CCP are gonna have a hard time wriggling out of this.
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.26 10:50:00 - [192] Edited by: Jada Maroo on 26/06/2011 10:54:59 Katrina, if you could add these to your post please: Games On Net - CCP CEO is Dismissive of Eve Online Criticism - "... the developer appears to be taking a dismissive attitude to player concerns" Myth Games - Protests Following Incarna - "many players feel that the expansion is incomplete, and a serious step in the wrong direction" Strategy Informer - EVE Online microtransaction controversy deepens - "A full blown controversy has hit the space combat MMO EVE Online" Massively - Eve Online Controversy Erupts In Protests - "Players have gathered en masse at Rens, Jita, and Amarr to show their displeasure." There's a lot more articles than I ever anticipated. The helmar has hit the fan.
kardjaval	Posted - 2011.06.26 10:55:00 - [193] i will remain unvoted. i will vote no if you can prove one thing, the NEx is not a RMT, it is not a case of "spend cash, get aurum" players have been purchasing in game currency for years, through the plex system, lets assume the nex starts selling everything the market has at aurem converted prices, but the player market stays open and still runs on isk. what is the difference between buying a plex, selling the plex in the in game market, and then using the isk to purchase the high end stuff/ and buying a plex, converting it to aurum, and using the in game market to buy high end stuff... you wanna know the difference between RMT, and CCP's NEx and aurems ideology? a plex, which is what is used to create aurem, is purchasable solely on isk, a wealthy player can purchase a plex for 375 million isk (what a week of lvls 4 missions, a few lucky item drops, a couple of ded4 complexes) convert it into aurem and then purchase items from the NEx, so even if they start selling items uniquely to the NEx, even items that have a in game impact, THE ITEM STILL HAS A STRICTLY IN GAME VALUE, it is not a item that can only be purchased through real money. the monocle that everyone is whining about currently, is what 12000 aurem, or to be more precise 1.3 billion ISK it has a in game value, that isk wealthy players can get. for you to dislike the NEx is fine, but unless you ***ed about the plex system back when it was introduced, or when you first started playing, you have ZERO right to complain, because a rmt system has been in eve for as long as plexxes have, for you to now compain just makes you look like a pompous ****ed ass.
Soddington Smythe	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:04:00 - [194] Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" Same here,I have two mates I had finally talked into trying out EVE telling them this new patch will be the start of something big.Another one I was oh so close to getting back into the game after a years absence. Come June 22,I was screaming 'abort abort' at them like I`d just got bubble camped scouting a gate.
Biomassed everyoneelse	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:06:00 - [195] Originally by: Soddington Smythe Originally by: Chandler Urandom Whenever there has been talk about gaming and MMOs, I've often mentioned I play EVE to friends and such - maybe get them involved. I will keep this to myself for a while now. "Oh lol, you play the 70$ monocle game?! Hah!" Same here,I have two mates I had finally talked into trying out EVE telling them this new patch will be the start of something big.Another one I was oh so close to getting back into the game after a years absence. Come June 22,I was screaming 'abort abort' at them like I`d just got bubble camped scouting a gate.
Elrica bloodbane	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:07:00 - [196] Here as well http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/06/25/1847248/EVE-Online-Players-Rage-Protest-Over-Microtransactions
G 0 D	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:08:00 - [197] http://www.perpetuum-online.com/ Hundreds of players that are leaving Eve are now playing Perpetuum Online and have literally doubled the games population. Join the perpetuum ingame channel EVE.
Talamicus	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:10:00 - [198] quote from article i was reading: http://kotaku.com/5815445/furious-over-microtransactions-eve-online-community-explodes-with-rioting "It doesn't help that CCP have been flat out lying to the face of the CSM - Council of Stellar Management (the player-elected parliament Owen talks about) about their plans, before releasing statements that state agreements that the CSM never made. Considering this was a council formed by CCP to reflect the interests of the players kind of shows you the level of dissent being arguably deliberately created" Sounds similar to: the american Administration/Bankers elite=CCP vs Congress= CSM The smell of of bullsh*t/corruption is rife across the world at the moment in all area's and it makes me sick.
Carmine Lady Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:13:00 - [199] Originally by: Talamicus quote from article i was reading: http://kotaku.com/5815445/furious-over-microtransactions-eve-online-community-explodes-with-rioting "It doesn't help that CCP have been flat out lying to the face of the CSM - Council of Stellar Management (the player-elected parliament Owen talks about) about their plans, before releasing statements that state agreements that the CSM never made. Considering this was a council formed by CCP to reflect the interests of the players kind of shows you the level of dissent being arguably deliberately created" Sounds similar to: the american Administration/Bankers elite=CCP vs Congress= CSM The smell of of bullsh*t/corruption is rife across the world at the moment in all area's and it makes me sick. Ialmost wrote a big thread about this kind of thing, ie comparing ccp to a one of the big banks, did you know the CFO for ccp used to be part of Citigroup. ------ FREE HELICITY and the rest
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:16:00 - [200] Shame most of them become obsolete Monday morning when the various editors come in and make the diligent weekend custodians research the material (ie. read the OMGEvilZulu blog). Majority of them are oddly enough focusing on the exact same regurgitated lines the emo-ragers have been spewing, primarily "Luxury/Vanity items are too expensive!". Well guess what, if the pricing was not exorbitant it would hardly be Luxury/Vanity items now would it? Do you ragers throw a tantrum in the real world when you see an Audi A6 or some wrinkled hag with a Gucci bag as well?

Louis deGuerre Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:18:00 - [201] It just boggles the mind how CCP has managed to alienate their loyal customers AND make themselves look ******ed to the world gaming community in no time at all. ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
CyberGh0st Minmatar Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:29:00 - [202] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint Originally by: Bklyn 1 Microtransactions and in-game advertising are the unfortunate future for mmo's. I don't think in-game advertising would be accepted at all in Eve. I think microtransactions would have been more well received if CCP dealt with the existing game problems first and didn't start out with silly high prices. They messed it up this time. Players have overlooked a lot of problems out of love of the game and what it represents. I think a lot of that goodwill has been squandered with the blatant cash grab. This is unfortunate. The "in-game advertising" angle is, I suspect, what the whole deal is with forcing people into the CQ (they've said the option to turn it off is temporary). That big TV screen in there that is constantly showing info on the game will probably get about 3months run time before we see the first 5second spot for NVidia or, worse yet, World of Darkness. I don't really have a problem with ingame advertisement if it is done well. It is definatly alot better than adding micro ( err macro ) transactions. However forcing people into CQ is of course the mistake. They need to make the content good so the players WANT to get in there, not by forcing them. http://www.mmodata.net Favorite MMO's : DAoC Pre-TOA-NF / SWG Pre-CU-NGE / EVE Pre-Incarna
Zey Nadar Gallente Unknown Soldiers B O R G	Posted - 2011.06.26 11:36:00 - [203] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin It's pretty hard to take **** like this seriously. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO BUY ANYTHING, IF YOU DO NOT WANT MONOCLES - DO NOT BUY THEM. THAT IS NOT THE PROBLEM MR CAPS LOCK
edith prickley	Posted - 2011.06.26 13:58:00 - [204] Originally by: Louis deGuerre It just boggles the mind how CCP has managed to alienate their loyal customers AND make themselves look ******ed to the world gaming community in no time at all. And it's worse than that. This was a major expansion (at least in PR terms) and should have garnered a lot of enthusiastic press. They've squandered that opportunity completely.
Emiko P'eng Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.26 15:03:00 - [205] Mythgames has an article covering the protests: Mythgames: EVE Online - Protests Following Incarna
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.26 18:06:00 - [206] updated +4 articles
Venusa	Posted - 2011.06.26 18:10:00 - [207] Here is one more , En frantais : http://www.canardpc.com/news-52559-eve_online__incarna___les_monocles_de_la_colere_.html
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.26 20:18:00 - [208] Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 26/06/2011 20:18:39 Originally by: edith prickley Originally by: Louis deGuerre It just boggles the mind how CCP has managed to alienate their loyal customers AND make themselves look ******ed to the world gaming community in no time at all. And it's worse than that. This was a major expansion (at least in PR terms) and should have garnered a lot of enthusiastic press. They've squandered that opportunity completely. Not only that but they could have got more attention for their other titles too... now all their time at gaming events is going to be spent putting out fires.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2011.06.26 20:32:00 - [209] Originally by: Katrina Cortez Dear Eve Online, Thanks and keep up the good work! - Love Always, Perpetuum LOL! ... Return the Old Hangar Back... for Immersion.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2011.06.26 20:57:00 - [210] Originally by: Razin Originally by: Katrina Cortez Dear Eve Online, Thanks and keep up the good work! - Love Always, Perpetuum LOL! I know... Funny! They have some great GMs and DEVs over there, very friendly and helpful. ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------

Demure Guise	Posted - 2011.06.26 21:01:00 - [211] CCP is a laughing stock after this fiasco, and they only have themselves to blame. Their corporate image must have taken a right kicking. I hope these articles continue.
Brujo Loco Amarr Brujeria Teologica	Posted - 2011.06.26 21:19:00 - [212] I have been away for a bit, trying to fume my rage somewhere else, rediscovered warband only to realize I'm for some strange reason still angry at all of this. It's like reliving history again for me. After the first day of Jita protests and endearing everyone to join it, and being online for several hours I was wasted. This madness is absurd from CCP's part. I decided to keep myself informed off the official forums, because everytime I see the gray on black motif here I get the fit of anger and resentment. So I surfed around many of the sites mentioned here and then stumbled upon this letter in MMORPG.COM in the EVE Online forums. The somewhat active EVE forum Community there is actively raging too, and telling everyone to avoid the game, the newcomers are either in shock or completely unaware of the scale of the issue, yet that letter, was gorgeous, as it informed several sides of the current feelings floating around. I invite you to read that farewell letter to EVE, it is wonderful and represents the feeling of betrayal several people here felt too. I hope this CSM ploy evolves into real action and answers, and it doesnt become another stalling procedure as more monocles are being sold. ---Eve is not dying, its being murdered ----
Deja Blue Gallente Vimana Empire	Posted - 2011.06.26 22:04:00 - [213] Edited by: Deja Blue on 26/06/2011 22:06:50 I have a nice thread going on the WoW forums. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2721583151?page=1 a GREAT comment by Vrash: " I guarantee you that Blizzard, Sony, Cryptic, EA, etc. are watching the Jita Riots. You may not play EVE; you may not understand what the fuss is all about...but if you play an online game, this WILL affect you. The subscription model may be on its way out, but this is still relevant."
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.26 22:07:00 - [214] updated Ambulation... because ships don't have wallets.
Lorimer Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.	Posted - 2011.06.26 22:09:00 - [215] anyone that thinks "The subscription model may be on its way out" is an idiot ?
Deja Blue Gallente Vimana Empire	Posted - 2011.06.26 22:16:00 - [216] Originally by: Lorimer anyone that thinks "The subscription model may be on its way out" is an idiot ? Free to play is the future of MMOs. ONLY titans, excuse the pun, like WoW and EVE use the model still. Many heavy hitters have gone down, such as SOE with EQ2, LOTRO and DDO. If you dont have 11 million subscribers, F2P with a cash market just makes financial sense. It does NOT mean I have to like it. There are different ways to implement it such as EQ2s system where the pay to win is basic master-crafted gear that is inconsequential and only really helps in leveling, major gear such as raid gear is NOT sold, etc. It is here to stay, it is the future.
Emiko P'eng Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.26 22:18:00 - [217] PC Magazine has just published a very good article covering the events of the last few days PC Magazine: EVE Online Gamers Riot Over Microtransactions
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.26 23:03:00 - [218] update - new massively article Ambulation... because ships don't have wallets.
Flaming Lemming Caldari Puppeteer Press	Posted - 2011.06.27 00:15:00 - [219] Damn, that's a lot of looking bad! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.27 06:16:00 - [220] Originally by: Katrina Cortez Articles like that are going to hurt new subscriber rates I'm sure. How many 12yos do you talk to about what games to play? How many 12yos read articles? How many 12yos have the capability for critical thought? CCP are genius. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!

Marcus Vorenius Task Force 42	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:14:00 - [221] Originally by: KatDjtized via Twitter for the #tweetfleet's RT @eurogamer_net Eve Online: CCP addresses player revolt. Extraordinary meeting of thà (cont) http://deck.ly/~yATQS ----------------------------------------------- "The No A$$HOLE Rule" by Robert Sutton, PhD
Indy Rider Amarr Ministry of War	Posted - 2011.06.27 09:15:00 - [222] Just saw the story hit Eurogamer.
Demure Guise	Posted - 2011.06.27 15:43:00 - [223] Edited by: Demure Guise on 27/06/2011 15:44:39 A new article from Eurogamer released since the one listed above.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.27 16:27:00 - [224] Updated links +5 Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
Alara Shihari	Posted - 2011.06.27 19:15:00 - [225] hmm, if EvE fails now, how would that affect Dust? since they are connected etc. And seeing how bad things has gone with eve, i wouldnt be surprised if it actually fades out and dies.. and wouldnt that kinda kill the entire purpose of Dust? Myself, i cancelled my 3 accounts yesterday ( was a returning player ) All the buggs, the choppy game play ( yea as many i cant afford a top of the line puter ) and now this stuff with the micro transactions kinda made me lose all hopes for this game. Its quite sad, the playerbase and the ideals this game had, i personally think was uniqe, and also the reason why i came back to it.
Pearljammer 5657 Caldari Last Exit.	Posted - 2011.06.27 21:15:00 - [226] Whats up CCP, we want answers.
Demure Guise	Posted - 2011.06.27 22:47:00 - [227] Originally by: Katrina Cortez Updated links +5 Ta very much! I love these.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder	Posted - 2011.06.27 23:42:00 - [228] Originally by: Demure Guise Edited by: Demure Guise on 27/06/2011 15:44:39 A new article from Eurogamer released since the one listed above. Damn you beat me to it. This is good stuff, CCP, I'd really recommend reading it. ----- Malevolence. is recruiting. Dive into the world of 0.0 !
Shadow XII	Posted - 2011.06.27 23:52:00 - [229] Originally by: Ayieka pretty sure it was the same way when tf2 released the mannconomy, and they're hardly hurting for players. everyone just loves to jump on the 'we hate microtransactions' bandwagon whenever it shows up, a day later they're buying hats for their dude. Hats in TF2 start at a dollar. Most are seven dollars, they go as high as fourteen. Clothes in Incarna start at 20, go up to 40 and even 70 dollars. That's ****ing insane.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.28 00:23:00 - [230] new article Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.

Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:40:00 - [231] Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 28/06/2011 17:41:55 more articles updated main page Gamasutra : The Politics of Creative Ownership: EVE Online's Council of Stellar Management Rock Paper Shotgun - Eve OnlineÆs Struggle & CCPÆs Redemption Blistered thumbs - Eve Online in Emergency Damage Control Strategy Informer - EVE Online cancellations could cost CCP $1M Develop online - Eve Online backlash could cost CCP $1m Gamasutra - CCP: EVE Online's Players 'Greatly Affected' Game's Direction, Via CSM Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
Ya Rayah Panala	Posted - 2011.06.28 21:40:00 - [232] IMO, they should be DDoS'd again and again and again until they back off and say ok we'll remove Mts.
Benri Konpaku	Posted - 2011.06.29 01:37:00 - [233] Originally by: Ya Rayah Panala IMO, they should be DDoS'd again and again and again until they back off and say ok we'll remove Mts. That could help them buy time. Better just block Jita and other hubs in game and spread the word outside of it.
Novon Toll	Posted - 2011.06.29 01:52:00 - [234] Originally by: Demure Guise CCP is a laughing stock after this fiasco, and they only have themselves to blame. Their corporate image must have taken a right kicking. I hope these articles continue. True. They've got no one to blame but themselves. This kind of poor decision making isn't the type of thing that is going to attract new players to try Eve Online. (Those Trolls that want to argue pro CCP can just shut it). I'd suggest CCP HTFU and face the fact that they made a bad decision and CONTINUE to poorly communicate. Unfortunately the management team making these decisions don't appear to know what they don't know. And aren't interested in listening to others opinions except when the flares go off like recently.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.29 02:13:00 - [235] EVE Protest videos... Burning Eden currently there are ~20 like this Incarnageddon (new large text) Raging while I mine Xtranormal move maker - CCP Zulu (pants) CCP discusses microtransactions ****** Videos - CCP after Incarna CCP breaks out the BatPhone Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
Ronan Astrum Murasaki Mining and Manufacturing The Paganism Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.29 02:22:00 - [236] I can't believe Eve players are too lazy to edit Eve's wikipedia entry. I would do it, but I'm to lazy.
Mechatronicus Anihilus	Posted - 2011.06.29 02:23:00 - [237] Edited by: Mechatronicus Anihilus on 29/06/2011 02:23:52 Originally by: Deja Blue Free to play is the future of MMOs. ONLY titans, excuse the pun, like WoW and EVE use the model still. Many heavy hitters have gone down, such as SOE with EQ2, LOTRO and DDO. If you dont have 11 million subscribers, F2P with a cash market just makes financial sense. It does NOT mean I have to like it. There are different ways to implement it such as EQ2s system where the pay to win is basic master-crafted gear that is inconsequential and only really helps in leveling, major gear such as raid gear is NOT sold, etc. It is here to stay, it is the future. Wonderful bandwagon illogic. Just because some very financially successful MMOs use the microtransaction income model does not make it the correct one for all MMOs. The Eve equivalent of your EQ2 example would be to let players purchase items that increase the sp/hour they learn. They already do that with the system we have. Players can buy a plex with dollars, sell it for isk and buy +5 implants for a clone. It's more money for CCP and more isk for the player who ran traded LP for the implants and sold them on the market. You use EQ2 in one breath as as an example of a heavy hitter that has gone down, and then in the very next breath next use their microtransaction system for master-crafted gear as an example of successfull implementation. So answer me this, genius-is EQ2 an example of microtransaction failure or success?
Irie Irie Irie Caldari Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.29 02:46:00 - [238] + rep to you for maintaining this list. ~~~
Kelban Kevar Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2011.06.29 02:53:00 - [239] well as to seeing how i can buy plex with isk and then convert plex to that mq money i dont have a problem with this.but please keep whineing its funny
Cameron Freerunner	Posted - 2011.06.29 02:54:00 - [240] This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous.

Kelban Kevar Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2011.06.29 02:58:00 - [241] Originally by: Cameron Freerunner This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous. dude could not have said it better
Wa'roun Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:09:00 - [242] Originally by: Thomas Turnpoint Originally by: Bklyn 1 Microtransactions and in-game advertising are the unfortunate future for mmo's. I don't think in-game advertising would be accepted at all in Eve. I think microtransactions would have been more well received if CCP dealt with the existing game problems first and didn't start out with silly high prices. They messed it up this time. Players have overlooked a lot of problems out of love of the game and what it represents. I think a lot of that goodwill has been squandered with the blatant cash grab. This is unfortunate. The "in-game advertising" angle is, I suspect, what the whole deal is with forcing people into the CQ (they've said the option to turn it off is temporary). That big TV screen in there that is constantly showing info on the game will probably get about 3months run time before we see the first 5second spot for NVidia or, worse yet, World of Darkness. It wouldn't fit well with the in-game world / lore setting to have modern Earth advertisers. Thinking about this though I thought something cool for some of you sci-fi people would be a Bladerunner Online MMOG. Now there is a world where seeing huge screens around town advertise odd commercials with Asian characters on screen and Coca Cola would fit.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:22:00 - [243] Edited by: Katrina Cortez on 29/06/2011 03:25:19 Originally by: Cameron Freerunner This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous. This post was about the breadth of media coverage and their impact on Eve/CCPs image... not so much to their contents. This is what the public sees and perception is reality... even if that reality is false. There are some good ones on the list that cover the topic in detail and other smaller articles that arent included. Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
MyShip SmellsLikeFarts	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:35:00 - [244] Dey be takin der knocks good, mon!
Irie Irie Irie Caldari Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:37:00 - [245] YOU DUMB BARSTARDS, OF COURSE THE ARTICLES ARE COVERING THE SAME TOPIC. WHAT THE **** ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT? ~~~
Mechatronicus Anihilus	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:43:00 - [246] Edited by: Mechatronicus Anihilus on 29/06/2011 03:45:17 Originally by: Kelban Kevar Originally by: Cameron Freerunner This list of articles would mean a lot more if so many of them weren't "blog" posts, forum posts, and community contribution posts. 90% of the articles basically say the same thing, lots of people are mad about monocles. They draw no conclusions and provide no real information or, more importantly, coorboration for their information. One of them notes that "a document has surfaced" that shows 5000 people are going to cancel subcriptions. The document being a google spreadsheet put together by a forum poster who is basing his numbers on posts in a forum full of alts. Ridiculous. dude could not have said it better So CCP called an emergency CSM meeting to fly the player reps out to Iceland based on "no real information?" Would Mr. All-Knowing and his SuperFanBoy care to enlighten the rest of us as to the last time that happened?
Pure Tabasco	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:43:00 - [247] Originally by: Irie Irie Irie YOU DUMB BARSTARDS, OF COURSE THE ARTICLES ARE COVERING THE SAME TOPIC. WHAT THE **** ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT? LOL you only need the FFFFF face.
Kelban Kevar Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:44:00 - [248] well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store and with all other mmos doing the same thing how can any of you be suprised at all.and that still dont change the fact you still dont have to spend real money on the mt store.just convert plex you buy with isk.out side the vocal 2% no one eles gives a flying ****
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:45:00 - [249] Originally by: Kelban Kevar well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store and with all other mmos doing the same thing how can any of you be suprised at all.and that still dont change the fact you still dont have to spend real money on the mt store.just convert plex you buy with isk.out side the vocal 2% no one eles gives a flying **** no is upset about the MT store idiot.
Kile Kitmoore	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:55:00 - [250] Here's another one for the fire: MMORPG - EVE's New Macro-Transactions Could not find that on the list. Got to love that title.

Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.29 03:56:00 - [251] Edited by: Jada Maroo on 29/06/2011 03:57:06 The press is really bad all around for CCP. You need only read the comments at these sites to see that. This isn't so much about individual articles as it is bad press and player reaction as a whole. Other MMO forums are LOLing at Eve's notion of "micro"transactions as well. In the end, though, you have to look at CCP's stated goals with Incarna. CCP's goal was not to sell 50-100 monocles for people to troll with. CCP's goal was to attract a whole new mass of players. New players who read about Incarna on MMO sites and gaming blogs and forums. New players that are now, instead, reading about CCP not giving a damn about the opinions of their players. In that sense, Incarna is a total PR disaster.
Kile Kitmoore	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:29:00 - [252] Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 29/06/2011 03:57:06 The press is really bad all around for CCP. You need only read the comments at these sites to see that. This isn't so much about individual articles as it is bad press and player reaction as a whole. Other MMO forums are LOLing at Eve's notion of "micro"transactions as well. In the end, though, you have to look at CCP's stated goals with Incarna. CCP's goal was not to sell 50-100 monocles for people to troll with. CCP's goal was to attract a whole new mass of players. New players who read about Incarna on MMO sites and gaming blogs and forums. New players that are now, instead, reading about CCP not giving a damn about the opinions of their players. In that sense, Incarna is a total PR disaster. In all honesty it really is heart breaking for those of us who really believed in the Incarna project. What CCP has done, perverted it into cash register then shoved it down our throats by removing the hanger view. The pricing, which I really don't care about, has become quite the laughing stock. The really sad part is they are going to let an entire week pass before really doing anything, and god only knows what the "something" is going to be.
ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS	Posted - 2011.06.29 04:55:00 - [253] Originally by: Kile Kitmoore In all honesty it really is heart breaking for those of us who really believed in the Incarna project. What CCP has done, perverted it into cash register then shoved it down our throats by removing the hanger view. The pricing, which I really don't care about, has become quite the laughing stock. The really sad part is they are going to let an entire week pass before really doing anything, and god only knows what the "something" is going to be. What do you mean wait? CCP has been deleting, and locking threads. Also gagging players and slandering rioters.
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2011.06.29 05:20:00 - [254] Originally by: Kelban Kevar well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store You do understand that for every PLEX that has been used by someone to 'pay' for their game time, someone had to give CCP the $$$ for the PLEX in thr first place? For someone whose corp claims to be an 'Investment Bank' you really don't understand money very well. --- Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum I can tell you that this is one of the moments when we look at what those at CCP will do and less of what they say.
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.29 06:33:00 - [255] Originally by: Jint Hikaru Originally by: Kelban Kevar well ya dumb ass in a game were you can pay for youre sub with ingame money is it any suprise they have to open a mt store You do understand that for every PLEX that has been used by someone to 'pay' for their game time, someone had to give CCP the $$$ for the PLEX in thr first place? For someone whose corp claims to be an 'Investment Bank' you really don't understand money very well. Actually I had a feeling we would be where we are now after they introduced that... so no suprise there. Just didnt think they were gonna screw it up so badly. Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
Cameron Freerunner	Posted - 2011.06.29 13:50:00 - [256] Originally by: Irie Irie Irie YOU DUMB BARSTARDS, OF COURSE THE ARTICLES ARE COVERING THE SAME TOPIC. WHAT THE **** ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT? I'm not sure you understand the difference between information dissemination and the echo chamber. Though that's hardly surprising in the modern media climate. It doesn't matter if 500 articles are posted that say 'people are mad about monocles.' It is a story that goes nowhere, mainly because it doesn't have a lot of substance. The number of stories that have mentioned the Fearless letter's title incorrectly is a sure sign that the majority of the stories are essentially reposts, not true articles by actual reporters. Instead of calling the issue by its actual name "Greed is Good?" with the question mark, they leave it off. As do many posters in this forum. The question mark makes all the difference. The meme team working against CCP is leaving footprints and they aren't hard to find. The missing question mark is the giveaway. A real reporter (and some of those articles are of a higher quality than most) would properly attribute the name. In reality, the underlying message of those articles is "EVE players love the game so much they'll actually stage protests. The game must be awesome to generate that sort of passionate response." You'll note none of the articles say anything about game play or quality.
XenosisReaper Interwebs Cooter Explosion Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.06.29 14:19:00 - [257] Originally by: Irie Irie Irie YOU DUMB BARSTARDS, OF COURSE THE ARTICLES ARE COVERING THE SAME TOPIC. WHAT THE ** ELSE ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT? This? As soon as he heard one of his comrades scream ôSQUAD BROKEN!", Eduardo the Space Marine knew that he was doomed. He charged forth in a panic, firing his plasma gun wildly into the air. Somehow the orks had surrounded them! EduardoÆs teammates ran shrieking into the depths of the abandoned tanker, the grunting lustful orks in swift pursuit. Soon Eduardo was alone. The brawny Space Marine collapsed against a wall, panting raggedly. His plasma gun had nearly overheated, and his com units were malfunctioning. No use even if they worked. By now, his whole squad was surely dead. Lost in his thoughts, Eduardo did not hear the ork creeping up on him. Stunned by a blow to the head, Eduardo was thrown violently to the floor. The ork grunted in amusement, bending down and straddling his body. Dazed, Eduardo turned his head to look up at his enemy. The ork fellow was huge, well muscled and even attractive for his species. Right now the orkÆs vibrant green skin was flushing dark in arousal. Eduardo whimpered as he realized what was about to happen. Summoning up his powers as a Blood Angel, Eduardo bellowed in the Black Rage and began to flail about under the ork. The ork simply grunting, riding the panicked Space Marine like a rodeo bull. Already weakened, Eduardo simply did not have the strength to dislodge the much heavier ork. All that thrashing around served to arouse the ork further. His name was Gurk, and the friction as the puny Marine flopped around between his muscular thighs was giving him quite a respectable hard-on. Gurk had meant to save the Marine for his own squad, but he couldnÆt wait any longer. Whipping out his own plasma gun, Gurk seared off the back of the MarineÆs armor, leaving his shining buttocks bare to the orkÆs lustful gaze. Eduardo moaned in fear, his virgin asscheeks clapping firmly together to deny the ork entrance. Gurk simply laughed, ripping off his crude orkish loincloth to reveal a thick green meat pole, nearly 12 inches long. The ork stuck one calloused finger down his throat, bringing up a thick vomit slurry which spattered down into the crack of EduardoÆs ass. Smearing the foul vomit around with one brutish paw, Gurk prepared the Space MarineÆs tender anus for playtime. Much to GurkÆs frustration, his was simply too large to fit inside EduardoÆs tight man . He grunted furiously, screaming ôWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!" in his deep orkish voice as he battered his meat against EduardoÆs tightly sealed pleasure ring. Suddenly the Space MarineÆs portal gave way, and the swollen head of GurkÆs popped through into the forbidden halls of his anus. GurkÆs pleased snort was drowned out by EduardoÆs scream of agony. The ork began to pump away in earnest, his bulging muscular hips and thighs slamming brutally against EduardoÆs ass. His heavy, furry balls slapped against the humanÆs ass merrily, creating a calypso that pleased Gurk mightily. Blood, a thin smear of *, and GurkÆs own oily yellow pre-lubricated EduardoÆs *** until it was as hot and slippery as GurkÆs own motherÆs . Poor Eduardo was swiftly going into shock from the pain. His mind growing dim, he screamed ôSQUAD BROKEN! SQUAD BROKEN!" over and over as the ork thrust brutally into his bruised insides. The orkÆs massive had caused a large degree of internal damage, and Eduardo was close to passing out from blood loss and fear. If his squad didnÆt find him soon, Eduardo knew that he would soon die. His poor plasma gun discharged into the floor one final time, overheating from a mix of pleasure and agonizing pain. The Space Marine had been a good for Gurk, but he needed something special to truly finish. GurkÆs heavy balls drew up close to his body, and he felt himself tensing, about to cum. As GurkÆs thick semen roiled up out of his **
Jada Maroo	Posted - 2011.06.29 14:30:00 - [258] ^ Reported.
Titas Agor TITANS OF PEACE	Posted - 2011.06.29 14:30:00 - [259] i find this post to be amazing, i knew that once one website followed the story, it was always going to escelate to ALL websites in the end, it will be hillarious if this hit any of the new broadcasts like fox news or bbc lol Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist
XenosisReaper Interwebs Cooter Explosion Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.06.29 14:31:00 - [260] Originally by: Jada Maroo ^ Reported. U MAD?

Zhula Guixgrixks	Posted - 2011.06.29 14:42:00 - [261] Edited by: Zhula Guixgrixks on 29/06/2011 14:42:37 .rockpapershotgun - Eve OnlineÆs Struggle & CCPÆs Redemption
Katrina Cortez	Posted - 2011.06.29 20:20:00 - [262] Updated articles... Front page and page 8 Ambulation... because spaceships don't have wallets.
Greup	Posted - 2011.06.29 21:02:00 - [263] http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesbladet/spela/article13248043.ab Now in swedish press also.


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Somebody get this on SLASHDOT.ORG :)If CCP want press coverage, lets give it to em.

FINALLY SOME TRUTH!!

Somebody get this on SLASHDOT.ORG :)

If CCP want press coverage, lets give it to em.