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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:57:00 -
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But no RMT ingame and ****ty AURUM.
Who is for it - X HERE
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:58:00 -
[2]
**** it, I'd be OK with this.
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Andreus Ixiris
CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:58:00 -
[3]
I'd probably prefer this option, although neither would be ideal.
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cytex malrone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:59:00 -
[4]
x
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Kurfin
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Posted - 2011.06.25 10:59:00 -
[5]
If it means no MT, I'm in. X
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:00:00 -
[6]
They should stick this thread ffs...
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Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:01:00 -
[7]
I'll happily have the sub cost increased if that means EVE stays free of Pandora's box called "MT for ingame advantages".
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Doh Stupid
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:02:00 -
[8]
I have a better idea.
Have the greedy b******s half the sub and no MT, plus I want them to clean my boots every Tuesday.
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Alpine 69
Rubbish Superheroes
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:03:00 -
[9]
Yeah, only if absolutely neccessary but I totally agree.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:04:00 -
[10]
 Originally by: Doh Stupid
I have a better idea.
Have the greedy b******s half the sub and no MT, plus I want them to clean my boots every Tuesday.
 , anyways, we're talking real thing here...
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:04:00 -
[11]
no
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Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:05:00 -
[12]
X
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Mr Mickey
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:05:00 -
[13]
X, BUT ONLY IF THEY REMOVE ALL PAYED FOR ITEMS, INCLUDING THIS VANITY BULL****!!!!
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:05:00 -
[14]
Originally by: SciWolf
But no RMT ingame and ****ty AURUM.
Who is for it - X HERE
x
[Petition] Make entry into CQ and Incarna optional. |
Ospie
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:05:00 -
[15]
I would actually pay more (say a few 2-4 more dollars / account) if it meant no MT.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:06:00 -
[16]
They already do for europeans...
But no I dont think we need to spend 5 dollar more for WOD development.
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Oh'Freddled Gruntbuggly
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:07:00 -
[17]
X
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Nozomi en Tilavine
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:08:00 -
[18]
X
i agree to pay more sub fee, but in exchange of removal of all kind of MT like AURUM.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:08:00 -
[19]
Why would they want your measly $5 when one item sold in the NeX is worth 4x that...
You'll be lucky if they dont charge you $20 and keep the NeX too...
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namlwod Ornulf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:08:00 -
[20]
x
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Kendra Wilkinson
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:08:00 -
[21]
Linkage
may be after the 21 december 2012, the maya have predict the end world so if we still alive why not
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:10:00 -
[22]
You realize youre offering to pay more money solely so they can develop other games instead of EVE.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Xia Long
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:10:00 -
[23]
X
but no point doin this, 'cause in CCP's eyes has never been MT or sub, is MT+sub+3rd party license
and the reason behind this is of course DUST (and Sony), probably once DUST will be out EVE will turno into a f2p game with MT, but untill then is goin to be what i said above i fear
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Jacque Cruix
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:11:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Ghoest
You realize youre offering to pay more money solely so they can develop other games instead of EVE.
Yeah, these guys are not too bright.
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AnarchistUK
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:11:00 -
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I think you will find most people were borderline pee'd with this game already, nevermind the MT. With the botting, the real money trading, the supercaps online that it has created, the lag, the cynojammers not work, countless other bugs. The only way people would pay a little more is IF they fixed the damn game 1st and actually admitted they have an issue with RMT'ing, which can EASILY be detected when they're logged in 23/7 performing the same routine tasks day in/day out. The thing with Micro Transactions has completely tipped the scale, along with taking away the old docking bay. The Captain's Quarters are baking our video cards. So honestly, the only way anyone should consider paying more is not just to stop MT'ing, but sort out all of the above 1st. |
claire xxx
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:11:00 -
[26]
I'm not opposed to MTs, just the ridiculously over-priced ones, and the possibility of pay-to-win items. However ... X.
~C
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Riicca
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:11:00 -
[27]
X - six canceled accounts reactivating for 20Ç a month each for a promise of no in game benefits for MT.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:11:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Katrina Cortez
Why would they want your measly $5 when one item sold in the NeX is worth 4x that...
You'll be lucky if they dont charge you $20 and keep the NeX too...
Because its one item that a limited person actually will buy contra round +20% overall income difference.
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Gordin Brott
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:14:00 -
[29]
Don't give them ideas. With the current terminal stupidity on their part, they might not stop at $20.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:14:00 -
[30]
This idea might save EvE as it is now. And i truly want it so.
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Rion Deteisan
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:18:00 -
[31]
need more money? Try the "Truth-er" way..
STEP 1: Create PROBLEM: Pay2WIN
STEP 2: Create SOLUTION: "I will pay $20 per month"
STEP 3: INTRODUCE $20 per account instead of Pay2Win..
STEP 4: People ADOPT $20 per account because Pay2Win is BAD!.
STEP 5: People forget about Pay2Win.
STEP 6: PROFIT!!!
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Kieron VonDeux
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:20:00 -
[32]
Originally by: SciWolf
This idea might save EvE as it is now. And i truly want it so.
I'm suspecting this to ba a money grubing CCP alt now.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:21:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Rion Deteisan
need more money? Try the "Truth-er" way..
STEP 1: Create PROBLEM: Pay2WIN
STEP 2: Create SOLUTION: "I will pay $20 per month"
STEP 3: INTRODUCE $20 per account instead of Pay2Win..
STEP 4: People ADOPT $20 per account because Pay2Win is BAD!.
STEP 5: People forget about Pay2Win.
STEP 6: PROFIT!!!
The truth-er way was to just announce that the current income is not covering all the expenses (whatever they are, i don't care), and ask community to understand it. That is all. It will work far better than putting everyone on fire, and make many unsubscribe and so on. Thats why i started the thread. I want eve to be eve.
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Maltrus
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:21:00 -
[34]
As it has been stated before there is already MT in the game you short sighted fools and don't give me the whole " But CCP will do ships and ammo" So? I mean if I want to i can buy plex after plex and get isk to BUY an already established char. I don't see people up in arms around this. I am sorry but you don't have a leg to stand on here.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:24:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Kieron VonDeux
Originally by: SciWolf
This idea might save EvE as it is now. And i truly want it so.
I'm suspecting this to ba a money grubing CCP alt now.
No i am not. I am an old player, since 2005, from Russia, Moscow.
I enjoyed this game all the time, but now i can't anymore. Look my posts! =)
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Comy 1
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:26:00 -
[36]
I would quit EVE instantly the day I can't buy game time with ISK. If you want to remove all MT from the game you will have to remove the PLEX. Which is my que to leave.
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Elliott Calvadeux
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:28:00 -
[37]
X
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Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:28:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Hyperforce99 on 25/06/2011 11:31:50
Edited by: Hyperforce99 on 25/06/2011 11:28:53
at its current price, and going from the current data known about the amount of monocles bought we have:
54 monocles sold in 40 hours time for a price of 80 dollars a piece (from leaked Hilmar letter)
Presuming this is true and that the initial rush () on these items has subsided we can calculate the following:
54 * 80 = 4320,- dollars
To calculate the money made during 1 day on monocles we do:
4320 / 40 * 24 = 2592,- dollars/day
multiply by 30 to get a months worth:
2592 * 30 = 77.760,- dollars/month on monocles.
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Eves subscription is 15,- dollars/euros a month a month
There are roughly 350.000+ subscribers to EVE
15,- * 350.000 = 5.250.000,- dollars a month in subscription income.
The RMT store right now is a joke, its prices are way to high for it to be profitable. Even if all the other items in the RMT store sell just as well it still wouldn't hold a candle to the subscriptions.
And the ironic part is that if the NeX prices wouldn't be so extremly high, they might actually turn a larger profit.
Imagine the following: the monocle and t-shirts would be no more expensive than 5,- at most. Supply and demand states that demand will increase exponentially if the price is lowered:
80 / 5 = 20 times less expensive
54^2 = 2916 sales in 40 hours
2916 * 5,- dollars / 40 *24 * 30 = 262.440,- dollars a month
262.440,- dollars a month is a lot more than a measly 77.760,- dollars a month...
now this is hypothetical and there is no way of knowing if the EVE community would actually buy these items at this rate. But regardless, overpricing worthless virtual items that add no value to the game is simply STUPID.
Increasing the subscription price of EVE to 20 dollars a month would net a subscription income of 7 million dollars a month. that's an increase of nearly 2 million dollars a month on income.
Presuming no players will leave over the sudden price increase of their subscription. which would likely happen. Then again, inflation and such havn't been properly taking into account either.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:28:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Comy 1
I would quit EVE instantly the day I can't buy game time with ISK. If you want to remove all MT from the game you will have to remove the PLEX. Which is my que to leave.
Its not about removing plexes. Its about NEX.
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Azran Zala
Fleet of the Damned
Legion of The Damned.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:29:00 -
[40]
X I'll pay $20 if they bring back spining in stations.
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picchiatello
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:29:00 -
[41]
X
I prefere pay 20 but not item shop
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Uriel Laskaris
Minmatar
Chemal Research and Development
Enemy-Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:29:00 -
[42]
FREE MONOCLES OR EVERYTHING BURNS! also FREE ROSA PARKS!
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Bevil Smyth
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:29:00 -
[43]
I'd resub both my main and eventually my alt after my next pay rise if CCP went this route, I mean its only reasonable to increase the sub occasionally due to inflation anyway.
I dont mind paying more I just want access to the whole thing with what I pay. Not get a robbed feeling that I need to pay twice for anything.
Another reccomendation to CCP though is to slow down on the growth ambitions, I worked in the games industry for as long as EVE has been alive and have seen soooooo many developers go down the swanny by over-extending themselves after having a hit product. Keep growth small and managable, make one extra game with your extra money not 2 huge ambitious ones. Look after your golden goose and dont milk it (too much) people arent stupid and they know when they are being fleeced.
I really like CCP and EVE despite the shortcomings of both. I want them to succeed but I find myself in danger of apathy right now. Please listen to constructive solutions like this one.
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Austherus Sialomaet
Amarr
Secluded Stronghold Order
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:31:00 -
[44]
X - I would pay 20 bucks if they get rid of the dark future of the gameplay changing micro-transactions.
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Inca Jones
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:32:00 -
[45]
X - I would be happy to pay $20 subs providing there is no pay2win type stuff.
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:33:00 -
[46]
If they're that starved of development resources, I think a sub fee increase is reasonable.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:33:00 -
[47]
Edited by: RougeOperator on 25/06/2011 11:34:19
Originally by: Takseen
If they're that starved of development resources, I think a sub fee increase is reasonable.
Screw paying more,
This only happened cause they spread to thin. I dont reward failure and bad choices with more money. Its not my fault they overextended.
Shelve world of darkness for a while. Then you have all the money you need.
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Kirynn
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:36:00 -
[48]
Originally by: RougeOperator
Edited by: RougeOperator on 25/06/2011 11:34:19
Originally by: Takseen
If they're that starved of development resources, I think a sub fee increase is reasonable.
Screw paying more,
This only happened cause they spread to thin. I dont reward failure and bad choices with more money. Its not my fault they overextended.
Shelve world of darkness for a while. Then you have all the money you need.
Dude, can you remember the last time they raised the sub? EVE is expensive I know but I think its worth it to save it. Let CCP learn from this mistake rather than fail cascade.
x for $20 sub and no MT.
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Comy 1
Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:36:00 -
[49]
Originally by: SciWolf
Originally by: Comy 1
I would quit EVE instantly the day I can't buy game time with ISK. If you want to remove all MT from the game you will have to remove the PLEX. Which is my que to leave.
Its not about removing plexes. Its about NEX.
To me it's all the same.
1) Before Incarna we had PLEX, where anyone could spend real life money to get a PLEX, that they could sell in game to get ISK.
2) With Incarna they introduce the new currency Aurum, which you obtain by trading in PLEX. This means that anyone can spend ISK to gain access to all items in the store.
3) This results in a scenario where the mechanics stays the same as they were pre Incarna. The only difference is that CCP ensures that SOMEONE has payed for the item with money that in alot of cases would already have been spent.
As I see it, a monocle does not cost 80$. A monocle cost X ammount of ISK that would cost 80$ to buy if you would spend said real life money to buy PLEX for that sole reason. But this could be said about any item in EVE. A Maller could be said to have the same value, a Salvager I or a Titan.
It's a matter of perspective. I respect the people protesting, because I think it will help CCP to realize how far they can take MT before crossing the REAL line. However, as it is now, no mechanic has REALLY been changed.
As I stated earlier, anyone can buy these items purely with ISK, given the supply of PLEX don't run dry. And removing this option would NEVER happend, since at the end of the day, someone spent those real life money to buy a PLEX. But said person might aswell have done so to afford Drakes to fight a war, rather than buy a monocle.
My 2 cents.
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Sidrat Flush
Caldari
Vannbros Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:37:00 -
[50]
It's more about the benefits with the MT payment option. While there are dangers with over-saturation, if done well and right the benefits in regards to the income stream is much more substantial than a few dollar increase to subscription rates.
I think however CCP has no choice BUT to go towards a MT direction as that's what the industry is doing. I wouldn't be surprised to see it in single player games, some would argue that it's already there with DLC availability on release day. Battlefield 3 is getting pre-order bonus's and possibly region specific DLC's too so it's just another method of monetizing and maximising the income of a title.
When development costs are in the tens of millions, selling a title in the old way (one price paid at the checkout), no longer makes sense as you need to sell a large volume to break even, and even more to make a profit for investors. Instead if you produce a title from scratch that already has content ear-marked for a DLC premium payment already on the disc, then it's possible that not only will people pay the retail/download price plus the extra price for the unlock code. Assassins Creed Brotherhood already did this in the way of Uplay points which you earned through playing the game. Won't be long until it'll be a dollar or two.
When it comes to Eve Online however alliances have been paying extra for years, even before it was sanctioned by CCP, for many it was a case of doing or die and others because they could keep fighting for a month longer and possibly turn the tide in that time.
If you don't like Microtransactions, gaming on the PC or consoles may not be your thing in the years to come as more and more titles will appreciate and develop towards it. CCP are taking an alternate route that I hope gets adopted by the industry in that what you buy for Aurum you can put on the market for ISK thus those that can't/won't pay direct cash could still put up a buy order for the item(s).
I do recognise the difference between buying a PLEX and buying a State Issue Battlecruiser for cash from CCP, however if this reduces the mineral basket for the economy then it COULD reduce the botting income generating more opportunities for the real miners out there.
As far as I can tell they are still in the early stages of developing the MT market in both Dust 514 and Eve Online. World of Darkness is still in pre-production which sounds like not a line of code has been produced let alone finalised. We can still influence how CCP rolls it out, but roll it out they will. Instead of whining and throwing the baby out with the dish washer accept it's coming and try to come up with suggestions that CCP can use to make Eve better, don't forget not everyone will buy an item for Aurum to use they can also put it on the market, so if you never bought an Aurum you could still benefit from what CCP brings out.
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Doh Stupid
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:37:00 -
[51]
Yes, but why should we?
Ways for them to make more money.
Trim their staff, when ever you see them, most are sat around doing nothing.
Take a wage cut, I bet those in management are vamping most of the profits.
Cut the advertising down, everywhere I surf there is a eve add, they should not need to advertise a good product.
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Leylla Gainsborought
Fallen Angel's
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:37:00 -
[52]
if they put subs up to more money ill cancel my 3 accounts immediately
Dont ecourage these already greedy **stards to be more greedy by rolling over to them and offering to pay more sub.
is the OP a fkin spastic or what?
its simple , grow a pair boycot the stupid space barbie doll shop and stop acting like a wet fany ffs
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:38:00 -
[53]
Originally by: SciWolf
But no RMT ingame and ****ty AURUM.
Who is for it - X HERE
No definately not!
Especially when you have someone in charge that has no interest in the customers and only any interest in what he can get out of them (money).
So lets say it went up to $20 dollars to keep MT out, next year it might have to go up to $25 to make sure it stays out at least for another year.
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Marcus Wilde
Gallente
Guerrilla Cartel
INVICTUS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:39:00 -
[54]
x - I wouldn't mind paying extra for a my subscription if I thought that ccp were under some real financial pressure. I love this game and if it means paying a little extra just to keep it as it was, then yeah NP I'll pay. But unfortunately it seems that the development of Dust and WOD has stretched ccp's resources to the limit, and they are trying to get eve players to foot the pill for games that we may never even play.
P.S. I think some of the criticism being thrown at some of the devs is well out of order, imo it's obvious that they are being told what to say from the man at the top. Just my 2 cents.
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:39:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Kirynn
Originally by: RougeOperator
Edited by: RougeOperator on 25/06/2011 11:34:19
Originally by: Takseen
If they're that starved of development resources, I think a sub fee increase is reasonable.
Screw paying more,
This only happened cause they spread to thin. I dont reward failure and bad choices with more money. Its not my fault they overextended.
Shelve world of darkness for a while. Then you have all the money you need.
Dude, can you remember the last time they raised the sub? EVE is expensive I know but I think its worth it to save it. Let CCP learn from this mistake rather than fail cascade.
x for $20 sub and no MT.
Why would i want to save a bunch of a holes that think im a slave again?
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Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:43:00 -
[56]
X
I've been playing for 7 years @ $15. The game is better, and the dollar is... well... not.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:49:00 -
[57]
bumpeeeee
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Tank CEO
Caldari
Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:52:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Tank CEO on 25/06/2011 11:55:02
More than 15$ a month would hurt Eve-online and won't work mainly because every other MMO out there is 15$ a month. You have to keep the prices the same, and I am afraid that clothes won't intrigue people to join eve-online with a 20$ monthly sub. Thats 60$ more a year. If anything, start charging for expansions like WOW does if you want to increase your revenue. I will agree to that, so long as MT is gone (Except for PLEX and Character Bazaar), and the expansions are way better than what they are now. A good way to follow content wise is World of Warcraft, and no, I don't play that game for 2 years now!
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:56:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Tank CEO
More than 15$ a month would hurt Eve-online and won't work mainly because every other MMO out there is 15$ a month. You have to keep the prices the same, and I am afraid that clothes won't intrigue people to join eve-online with a 20$ monthly sub. Thats 60$ more a year. If anything, start charging for expansions like WOW does if you want to increase your revenue. I will agree to that, so long as MT is gone, and the expansions are way better than what they are now. A good way to follow content wise is World of Warcraft, and no, I don't play that game for 2 years now!
Also a very good idea. I'm willing to pay for expansions, but for GOOD ONES.
But RMT from CCP will ruin the game. That is true.
There's completely no sense in NEX store unless they're going to sell things taht give ingame advantages.
Btw my idea about rising the sub cost is that game becomes good, and dollar falls down, as all currencies do.
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Ender sup
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Posted - 2011.06.25 11:57:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Kieron VonDeux
no
Not empty quoting.
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Col Howitzer
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:03:00 -
[61]
X same here up sub cost lose the store
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Arakazzi
Caldari
Epsilon Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:04:00 -
[62]
No offence, but EVE is not a $20 a month game. Many of the things I expect from a AAA title do barely exist, things such as voice acting, game physics and animation are limited, and much of the PvP content is in need of a radical overhaul. The missions are fairly basic and offer little in the way of challenge. In truth the best content in the game is either directly or indirectly player created. Incarna may be an attempt to fix these shortcommings, the current incarna is very limited in terms of that we can do with it. But if I had the choice between having a pay to win game or paying an extra $5 I would choose the to pay the extra.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:05:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Arakazzi
No offence, but EVE is not a $20 a month game. Many of the things I expect from a AAA title do barely exist, things such as voice acting, game physics and animation are limited, and much of the PvP content is in need of a radical overhaul. The missions are fairly basic and offer little in the way of challenge. In truth the best content in the game is either directly or indirectly player created. Incarna may be an attempt to fix these shortcommings, the current incarna is very limited in terms of that we can do with it. But if I had the choice between having a pay to win game or paying an extra $5 I would choose the to pay the extra.
Means X.
All in all we're ready to sub increase cost. So WTF ARE YOU WAITING FOR CCP?! Remove the NEX and do what you need - GET SOME MONEY. Oh and GET BACK OUR OLD HANGAR VIEW!!!
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Carebear with Issues
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:07:00 -
[64]
X
Would proudly pay 20$ per month to avoid stupid micro transaction driven game play.
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Tom Gerard
Caldari
RPS holdings
Auctorita Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:07:00 -
[65]
I'd pay $20 if MT were taken completely off the table.
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dethleffs
HATEME'S GANK EMPORIUM
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:08:00 -
[66]
x
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Adira Hamalia
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:09:00 -
[67]
x
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Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:12:00 -
[68]
Are you stupid?
Of course I wont pay 20$ per acc per month just to walk around in a station and get meself some fancy laggy new virtual pants.
Thats ridiculous!
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Karmic Enigma
2plus2isfive
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:13:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Karmic Enigma on 25/06/2011 12:13:46
No, we already pay 15$ for each accounts, unless you are porposing they let us log multiple toons in the same account with the price increase!
Also, the above comment should be the position of all Capsuleers!
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:14:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Tom Gerard
I'd pay $20 if MT were taken completely off the table.
Then you are a sucker. I wont pay to take something off the table that should never have been near the table to begin with.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:31:00 -
[71]
Up.
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Suze Busa
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:52:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Suze Busa on 25/06/2011 12:53:48
Originally by: RougeOperator
Then you are a sucker. I wont pay to take something off the table that should never have been near the table to begin with.
True.
Can't believe some folks would be willing to pay more to get back the old game. They really must be obsessed with EvE.
Oh, and if the sub is up then I'm out of the game. My both accounts are, in fact. Cheers. ;)
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Murdah
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.06.25 12:59:00 -
[73]
X
As long as there are no convenience/power items in game for microtransactions.
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Nin Kimrov
Minmatar
Kenzi Arms and Munitions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:01:00 -
[74]
-X
But it is to late..they should have through that solution earlier.
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Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:01:00 -
[75]
At this point, I think CCP would have a better chance of salvaging their game by offering no RMT and lowering subscription to $9.95.
Clearly they are just winding Eve down now anyway. Letting us pay to playtest for their new game while attempting to milk whatever last bits of money they can get.
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SciWolf
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:35:00 -
[76]
Up.
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Illumi Rinne
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:41:00 -
[77]
Originally by: SciWolf
Originally by: Comy 1
I would quit EVE instantly the day I can't buy game time with ISK. If you want to remove all MT from the game you will have to remove the PLEX. Which is my que to leave.
Its not about removing plexes. Its about NEX.
Personally, I'm quitting because of plex.
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Goatse Girl
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:43:00 -
[78]
They said they're not getting rid of the MT store, you either stay or go, (mind you they might increase the sub to $20 and have a mt store)  
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derivativo
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:44:00 -
[79]
I believe we are already overpaying EVE.
-1
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McMelch
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Posted - 2011.06.25 13:47:00 -
[80]
I guess they'd consider doing it if we said 70 Bucks per month. About 5 bucks more per Account is probably not enough.
But whatever, X
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ThunderEyes
Amarr
ClawsAndTeeth
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:49:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Kurfin
If it means no MT, I'm in. X
+1
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Illadelph Justice
SniggWaffe
FREE KARTTOON NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:53:00 -
[82]
no
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Drachenfels Constant
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:56:00 -
[83]
nope, let the players buy share in ccp.
why give them more $$$ when you have no say in how its spent?
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Ayieka
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:58:00 -
[84]
This is the exact wrong way to go about this. And whats stopping ccp from just adding mt anyway after raising the sub cost?
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.25 14:59:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Ender sup
Originally by: Kieron VonDeux
no
Not empty quoting.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:10:00 -
[86]
What is the proposed return for that additional investment?
I will entertain this idea if CCP directs that funding towards internet spaceships as well as good caliber quality assurance practices.
As I have stated in other forum threads, I have historically been willing to invest money into my spaceships hobby. I will consider investing additional money into internet spaceships, but not the rubbish that is currently Incarna, WiS and the NEX marketplace.
That is about as simple as it gets for customer feedback.
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Doris Dents
Kismet Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:15:00 -
[87]
Sorry but $15 is more than enough considering we've also been supporting the development of DUST and World of Darkness for years now. If CCP is strapped for cash they can delay one of the games I'm currently paying for but not playing!
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PotatoOverdose
Caldari
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:17:00 -
[88]
Edited by: PotatoOverdose on 25/06/2011 15:17:28
The best thing that will come of this is that eve will raise its subscription fee and keep MT's because they think we're a bunch of lemmings [Source: Hillmar's leaked Email].
No. Just No. Saying "Please Sir, milk me some more" is not the solution.
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Vawd
Caldari
Proficient Armament Solutions Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:17:00 -
[89]
No.
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Dark Reignz
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:50:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Dark Reignz on 25/06/2011 15:59:23
Absolutely stupid thread
us brits and euros are already paying the equivelant of $20
1 Month sub:
14.99 Euros is ú13.29 which is $21.22 USD
Even buying GTC from US retailers still means:
ú10.95 = 17.490435 U.S.D
As I recall for one month US players pay $14.99 USD when subbing via Eve Online account management which is ú9.38 and ú4 cheaper that us brits and euro pay.
So please cut out the "raise subs to 20 usd" because a hell of alot more people will cancel there accounts than you are already seeing including myself and other friends I know.
We got screwed once with pricing and it wont happen again. If anything, with the NEX, euro subs should be reduced!
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Ryea Eripmav
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:27:00 -
[91]
X. 
To quote an EVE-Online Facebook comment on the Dev Blog "Fearless, virtual goods and rage":
Quote:
"I would be more than happy to combine my EVE subscription with a DUST514 subscription, say for $3-5 more a month or something"
Ideally, yeah -I'd like to do away with MT but there's a weakness in the armor against it with PLEX in play. Probably can't undo that.  But if MT are to take place, please limit it to ONLY "fluff." 
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(O.o)
(> <) The Bunny strikes again, on his way to world domination.
"...The bunny, the bunny
Oh! I love the bunny..." |
Tarix Loken
Amarr
Pandorum Research Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:32:00 -
[92]
same thought crossed my mind today, 20 might be a bit steep but i would pay more than the standard fee if its MT free!
X
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Velios
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:33:00 -
[93]
NO.
CCP would want their $20 AND MT at the same time. |
Morgan Polaris
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:35:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Morgan Polaris on 25/06/2011 16:35:19
No. $15 (although I pay EUR 15, do the math) is plenty to develop and run an MMO without MT.
edit: paid.
Donations accepted: 1BpQEYT7aSUNM863BV67FPxyv1cpxr74uu |
Holly Cleland
Special Operations Foxhound
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:36:00 -
[95]
Get out.
It's expensive enough as it is, other MMOs give you more for your money and better quality of service than EVE ever could for the same price, and even now, EVE resources are being taken away to fund their other projects, so your money would be wasted on these other projects that CCP want to work on instead of what you want them to work on, get a clue man, this isn't how business works, MT isn't a last resort, they're just over extending themselves with 2 different projects that aren't generating any revenue, meanwhile EVE goes to hell.
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El'Niaga
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:37:00 -
[96]
Honestly what's really come out the last 2 years, not worth 20 dollars a month. The problem is your asking for an increase not to improve or maintain EVE but so that they can funnel more money like the last 2 years into DUST and WOD. Honestly they need to delay WOD until after DUST is completed and released so they have the additional revenue stream they need to complete WOD. Then once WOD is out you take the revenue from the three to make a new project and so on.
I don't think they have a good plan for their aurum though.
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Dragan Moonraker
Rheinbraun Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:51:00 -
[97]
Originally by: SciWolf
This idea might save EvE as it is now. And i truly want it so.
I'd do this if they take Aurum out of the game.
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Swren1
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:52:00 -
[98]
X
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Sgt Maru
Shadowed Command
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:55:00 -
[99]
X
If CCP wants more money, that's fine, but don't destroy something that so many love just to increase your profits.
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:56:00 -
[100]
Don't give them ideas.
Also, they already charge $20 effectively through PLEX. Look how that's working out...
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Kali Omega
Pitch Black.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:57:00 -
[101]
X
Im all for it
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:58:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Anna Maziarczyk on 25/06/2011 17:58:35
X
I wouldpay 19.99 a month
If and ONLY IF
They removed ALL MT form the game.
did spaceflight<--->docked<---->CQ
And started actually developing content for EVE.
And, send all employees to Ethics classes. STARTING WITH THE CHIEF ICELAND MANS.
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Spookyjay
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:02:00 -
[103]
No and no to MT.
CCP use to make profit off eve till they over-expanded projects.
You do not make your existing customer base suffer for your mistakes. They need to scale back. If they developed EVE properly they would make more cash any way.
Hey they could of even MT for vanity items if we could of trusted them that is as far as it would of gone. But no they got greedy and wanted more faster.
I see no reason we should pay more either way.
NO to MT for ingame advantage.
No to EVE sub for WOD development.
CCP can get funding for other games same way they got it for eve. From banks and investors. Screw our sub's boosting other game development.
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Linar Mardolak
Minmatar
Phlogiston Absorption
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Posted - 2011.06.25 20:51:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Maltrus
As it has been stated before there is already MT in the game you short sighted fools and don't give me the whole " But CCP will do ships and ammo" So? I mean if I want to i can buy plex after plex and get isk to BUY an already established char. I don't see people up in arms around this. I am sorry but you don't have a leg to stand on here.
Okay, I'd be fine with removing PLEX, if that's what it takes. There's a huge difference, in that one supports the economy and one destroys it, but if people can't manage to grasp that, scrap the whole thing.
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Super Mommabear
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Posted - 2011.06.25 20:53:00 -
[105]
I read the title of this thread and wanted to go to subway
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Elizers
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Posted - 2011.06.25 20:59:00 -
[106]
I already pay 20$ pr month. But ye 20USD and 15 Eur is fair.
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Linar Mardolak
Minmatar
Phlogiston Absorption
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:00:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Comy 1
I would quit EVE instantly the day I can't buy game time with ISK. If you want to remove all MT from the game you will have to remove the PLEX. Which is my que to leave.
Okay, so it's now your job to explain why to keep PLEX in the game, and how it's different. I paid my subscription every month, never bought or sold a PLEX, and I'm tired of explaining over and over and over how PLEX->isk works with the economy. Players don't get that, so PLEX may need to go as well. If you want PLEX and benefit from them, defend them.
I'm now happy to scrap the whole PLEX/AUR plan and hunt the botters and macroers that pop up. They did less damage to the game than CCP is doing now.
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Illwill Bill
For a fistful of Veldspar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:01:00 -
[108]
Sure thing.
FREE HELICITY |
Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:03:00 -
[109]
No, if they cannot keep this game going on one of the most expensive subs on the market it means they are using too much of our cash for developing WOD etc... I am not made of money
Turbefield for CEO
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Ianus
Caldari
Geminus Gateway
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:05:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Portmanteau
No, if they cannot keep this game going on one of the most expensive subs on the market it means they are using too much of our cash for developing WOD etc... I am not made of money
This ^
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Zverofaust
Gallente
Incompertus INC
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:07:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Ghoest
You realize youre offering to pay more money solely so they can develop other games instead of EVE.
Unavoidable at this point. CCP are looking for ways to increase profitability of Eve Online, for whatever reason. Their plan is ******ed. Even an increase in subscription fees of $1 a month would gain them a lot more money in both the short and long term than their stupid MT ideas.
X!
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Shorty Loot
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:08:00 -
[112]
****heads.
this will end in 20 bugs + macrotransactions for balancechanging items.
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Gordon Hellbender
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:12:00 -
[113]
Hell no, i'm not paying 20$ a month to fund YOUR AUR needs.
More people will quit the game than we've already seen from this whole drama if they raised the monthly payment.
If you don't like the AUR option, then don't use it, simple as that.
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Dirritat'z Demblin
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Posted - 2011.06.26 01:53:00 -
[114]
X
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Vikarion
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 01:58:00 -
[115]
X.
I'd do it. If they really need more money, I understand. Just don't ruin the game!
- - -
Originally by: CCP Pann
If you have something to say, IÆd like very much to hear it.
Originally by: Hilmar
this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. |
Callisto Ares
Companion Cube Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.26 01:59:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Callisto Ares on 26/06/2011 02:01:16
No. Make that a **** no.
CCP has already shown how irresponsible they are with the current subscription price of $15/mo per account in overextending themselves support 3 studios and 3 different games solely on the back of Eve-Online revenue which they've steadily been squeezing to bring in more money over the last year or two.
A responsible company would have kept their team sizes and costs down, or only worked on one project with their revenue, but they decided to finance everything without any regard to impact and repercussions it would have on the vision and game design for Eve-Online and it's player driven sandbox.
As long as they have PLEX, and their game design continues to force players into using multiple subscriptions where people are actually paying $30, $45, $60/mo for a single MMO.. NO I wouldn't support a $5/mo increase across the board. I don't even support the current design which is so exploitive of their customers even before the Microtransaction push was made.
As customers we've been very tolerant, grudgingly accepting changes like PLEX in the promise it would combat RMT even though we knew it was primarily a income source for CCP, we've looked past the Ghost training nerf that made paying for multiple accounts at least somewhat affordable, we've supported many projects like the Eve Magazine, Maps, CCP Store, events, etc.. all to 'support' what we thought was a company committed to a quality product while sharing the same vision as its playerbase for a open single shard world driven and owned by the players with a full player driven economy.
Then we find out the only thing they care about is the $$$?
You give them $20/mo per account they'll just keep spending it on other projects and blow it like they have been for the last couple of years without developing or improving Eve-Online one single bit in any measurable way. How long have Eve players stuck with this game hoping for that eventually promise of lag free fleet engagements and 0.0 system that actually works? You can only pay so long and so much for a dream.
They already had my $45/mo in 3 accounts, and failed. I'm not going to pay them $60, let alone $20 for one. Nobody else should fall for that BS either until CCP gets their house in order first. |
Nikki West
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:00:00 -
[117]
No.
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Free LIANG, Free HELICITY, Free ANGEL HUN |
Bischopt
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:02:00 -
[118]
Paying CCP an extra 5 bucks a month so they wont milk money out of me?
Doesnt really sound right.
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Harcosi
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:05:00 -
[119]
No, that would be an increase of $35 a month for me.
If they can't keep their company afloat, cancel Dust, it's going to fail anyway.
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Brian Ingram
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:08:00 -
[120]
X
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Smoking Blunts
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:08:00 -
[121]
Originally by: SciWolf
This idea might save EvE as it is now. And i truly want it so.
**** ccp til they make incarna optional and say no to MT.
they wont do either so bye bye eve as we know it
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Soji Kanagawa
Caldari
0uter Ring Excavations
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:10:00 -
[122]
x
I would definitely pay more money per account if it would help keep Non Vanity MT out of EVE.
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TomParad0x
Caldari
RogueNET
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:15:00 -
[123]
No, this is stupid.
Just keep microtransactions with VANITY items only. No pay to win, or any kind of advantage.
I don't want to pay more for each account, that's stupid.
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Kuronaga
Kantian Principle
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:17:00 -
[124]
They make a lot of money already, but it is true what is said.
They spread themselves too thin.
I am not going to pay more money just so they can fund their vampire MMO. This isn't going to Eve development clearly, so why keep feeding a beast that isn't my own?
No.
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Zeg Quul
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Posted - 2011.06.26 02:19:00 -
[125]
No 20$ for megalomaniacs. Drop WoD or/and Dust. First fix Eve with our money, then expand.
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HARRY WALTAN
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:10:00 -
[126]
Originally by: SciWolf
But no RMT ingame and ****ty AURUM.
Who is for it - X HERE
XXXX
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Enna Shendara
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:12:00 -
[127]
X
I will happily pay more money for eve, both because I consider it worth it, and because I don't mind that they are expending. If an extra $5 a month will remove the need for sinister MT plans, by all means do it, and don't look back.
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Aina O'Sinnor
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:14:00 -
[128]
not going to happen. They named it Greed and greed it will be.
Take the: CCP performance survey
Until a better Eve. |
Haraldhardrade
Amarr
Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:16:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Ghoest
You realize youre offering to pay more money solely so they can develop other games instead of EVE.
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Spookyjay
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:17:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Haraldhardrade
Originally by: Ghoest
You realize youre offering to pay more money solely so they can develop other games instead of EVE.
qftw
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Cave Lord
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:17:00 -
[131]
X
But of my 3 accounts, I'd only activate 1. The damage is already done.
A CSM member already had a poll on this, but I have no idea where it went or where it was.
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Precusor
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:17:00 -
[132]
i don't want my money wasted on some console game that will fail.
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Chip Flux
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:27:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Chip Flux on 26/06/2011 09:29:15
yes
Noone likes it, but if the reality is money shortage, then this is honest
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Laser Purification
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:38:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Laser Purification on 26/06/2011 09:41:10
I think it's reasonable to pay based on the money they're investing in Eve (no, I don't care about your other games).
So a month sub of about $2.50 seems generous.
For the 41 *million* they're earning from current Eve subs they could only manage to produce one room and no gameplay?
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Chikata Bangbang Stripper
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:40:00 -
[135]
X if its promised in clear... explicit terms that NO ATTEMPT shall ever be made to cash-shop EVE for non vanity
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:45:00 -
[136]
Originally by: SciWolf
But no RMT ingame and ****ty AURUM.
Who is for it - X HERE
No
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Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:45:00 -
[137]
I for one would welcome SP for PLEX.
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Sethose Olderon
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:48:00 -
[138]
X - I would support this, but only after the necessity and reasoning behind its implementation were clearly and elaboratively explained, Also though, with a written contract (for the purposes of ethical and intellectual honesty) with the Eve Community that the current micro-transaction store be rolled back, and that no such future attempt will ever be made.
Alliance Owned Stargates
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Tu Ko
Legio Geminatus
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:50:00 -
[139]
Not that i'm dead set against a price hike, but the company is already profitable at this rate. The issue is that they are running overbudget making games that aren't Eve. Giving them more subscription money is not going to equal them developing content for Eve , they'll take that money and work on WoD with it. Once they've 'completed' WoD they'll go on to an entirely new project and still leave Eve on cruise control. Why do we want to reward them for not working on Eve?
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Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:51:00 -
[140]
I'd actually be fine with a sub fee increase.
Yeah.
X
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Naughty Dread
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Posted - 2011.06.26 09:51:00 -
[141]
i don't want pay more sub i don't want mt. I do want ur assets tho . Can i has them?
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Mycheala Zanjoahir
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:09:00 -
[142]
Sooooo...
If White Wolf was such a hot $h!t company, why are they not putting WW money into financing WoD?
Perhaps it is because Pen & Paper RP and CTG is as dead as a door nail and White Wolf would have been dead by now anyways? I live in a large market and Pen & Paper is so damn niche now it is disgusting. We have 4 million people here and that population base struggles to support 3 maybe 4 gaming shops that sell Pen and Paper.
I understand that CCP bought WW to get access to a company that had CTG experience for the EVE CTG (fail there...) and now they have to do something to get back the price of admission to the CCP / WW merger. But honestly, 3 ambitious games in developement at once is an epic fail waiting to happen.
Finish DUST514.
Shelve WoD. Sell off WW. It's dead anyways.
Stop bleading internet spaceships to build a world that has fukitol to do with internet spaceships.
Eve = $15.00 per month. MT = vanity items only.
Done.
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LordInvisible
Gallente
Nova Ardour
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:12:00 -
[143]
Nah, then they will do the same in two years time and subs will go up again.
Fu.ck that! Let them stop paying their devs for dust and WoD from profits they get from eve online players and the problem is solved.
We DONT need higher subs, game is not that amusing anyway.
I say no to higher subs! Its one of the expensive games already (since u need at least two accounts to be productive in eve anyway..).
Guys, dont be sheeps!!
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Quote: "For me EvE wasn't that much fun, many ppl refer to it as a nicely designed database front-end and that |
Li FenTao
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:21:00 -
[144]
Lol you realize that if they where not going to implent any win-items in nex shop, you guys are willing to spend more money for the same crap? ( i said IF ) Cause either way im not going to pay dust develop since i never play a shooter game on ps3 and even if i wouldnt pay lol
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:24:00 -
[145]
Let them make EVE free to play instead.
PLEX will lose their use except for using the MT store! 
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Aleria Angelis
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:27:00 -
[146]
Oh alright then X
As long as this puts a stop to the MT store not in addition, don't want CCP getting any ideas.
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:28:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes
Let them make EVE free to play instead.
PLEX will lose their use except for using the MT store!
No.
F2P are for different games then EVE of a more casual nature.
As for $20 per month. Before Incarna I might have been ok with it. Now CCP can eat **** and die.
+ 1500 votes on MT in EVE | NO 79.03% | YES 5.02% | COSMETIC ONLY 11.23% | OTHER 4.73% |
kardjaval
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:31:00 -
[148]
were you just not here when plex were introduced??
please prey tell, how is buying aurem, RMT, i do not see a "purchase 3500 aurem for 19.95" button anywhere,
i do see a buy plex for 19.95 through, and that has been here since what, 03? if you guys trully dont want RMT, then get rid of plexes, get rid of changin characters to different accounts in the character bazaar for plex, etc etc, rmt has been in the game ever since plex weere first introduced, you can't just suddenly whine about it now, especially considering PLEX CAN BE BOUGHT FOR IN GAME ISK, you guys whine about pay to win ruining the game, your whining about this now when any rich kid can go and purchase 24 plexes, sell them all for 300mil isk, and purchase the very best gear available, yet you idiots don't see that as rmt, do you? it's only when CCP cuts out the middle man (this case the market/contrascts) and adds in a noble exchange for vanity items, that you guys start getting up in arms.
if you do not have a link to a post 5-7 years ago, showing how you don't want RMT (because f plexes) than honestly you are ****ing ******ed little snots, who just don't make any goddamn sense.
ALSO, a internal memo, and "private" email" is not proof of anything, no one outside ccp knows where the **** they are gonna go with NEW, so why the hell are you guys even talking about it?
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C4LYP50
Solarwind Interstellar Mining and Production Ltd
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:34:00 -
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CCP have already proven they cannot be trusted to keep their word about MT in game. And you propose to negotiate with them, for something they are gonna RAM DOWN YOUR THROAT anyway, as soon as you've rolled over? You'll get your wish, my friends, but not the way you THINK you will.
Corrupt-A-Wish Thread is in OOPE. Go there with your crazy ideas.
They should be removing MT Aurum from the game NOW, and PROPOSING to increase the sub cost, in an HONEST, and TRANSPARENT meeting with CSM, unlike any they've had in the past.
Absolutely NO!
Brunette By Birth...........Blonde By Nature.
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Markus Jome
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:41:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Markus Jome on 26/06/2011 10:41:26
It's very theoretical, but if there was an option like 20Ç or MT, then
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:45:00 -
[151]
No.
CCP needs to sort out their problems on their own and not through our wallets.
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Trisha Trillian
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:45:00 -
[152]
The ability to extract a subscription is insignificant next to the power of PLEX.
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Timberfox
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:46:00 -
[153]
**** no, **** you, and **** ccp
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Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
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Posted - 2011.06.26 10:55:00 -
[154]
These greedy sons a bit ches get TOO much money for a broken beta game as it is!! F uck NO they don't deserve MORE!!
I mean, look at what is going on RIGHT now!! They F uck us ALL over the table with MT, and you want to REWARD their behavior by directly giving them MORE money as a bribe to STOP raping us over said table!?!? What is WRONG with you people!?!?
If CCP chooses to "Stay the course" as Hilmar said they were, then they DESERVE the horrible thrashing death that is coming for them!!
And yes, this is an 8 year veteran talking, who has LOVED the game with all his heart and soul.... IN THE PAST! But, a person can only take so much abuse before enough is ENOUGH!!
As one player to another, cheers to you for trying mate. I know what you are trying to do, and I know why your trying to save Eve. But Eve, in its current state, with the greedy sons a bit ches that are running it right now, is BEYOND saving. And the ONLY thing that is going to teach the LOT of them what they need to learn is some trips to the UNEMPLOYMENT line!!
Sorry I couldn't support you on this one bro. Peace.
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