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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:48:00 -
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It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
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Kerppe Krulli
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:50:00 -
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Assuming there hasn't been any "code adjustments". I too know of sites purporting X people doing something, a code here and normalization there can make it say whatever you want. CCP's damage control of late has been nuke, ban, ban, silence, nuke. Wouldn't surprise me in the least that they are dishonest enough to start fidget numbers to hide an exodus. Remember they are not public, they don't have to be honest in regards to their sub numbers or those online.
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Acac Sunflyier
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:50:00 -
[3]
 Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
the accounts start to run out at various stages. my last day is in august but i won't reup
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Rina Maas
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:50:00 -
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Subs do not instantly end.
Some are on year plans... so will take a while for sub to actually expire :)
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Nuramori
Amarr
Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:51:00 -
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Canceling a subscription doesn't mean you're account is closed at that moment. Many would have time for even months before it will begin to become evident. I pay yearly, so I have 6 months remaining on one account.
The metric WILL show up though,as the logs showing cancellations will be evident to CCP.
The more immediate and instant metric is daily logons, but that isn't a direct relationship to subscription status.
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:51:00 -
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My subs unfortuneatley dont expire until November, but then that revenue stream is adios for ccp. Until then I'm doing everthing for my friends corp I can.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Sentinels
Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Never would have pegged you for a jackass.
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Zanetia
Gallente
The Interstellar Lunatic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Because everyone's remaining time must conveniently ran out the day after they cancel their subs? I'm not saying there's no exaggeration but it's feasible a lot of people are playing out the remainder of their sub, giving stuff away to friends or trying to crash Jita, Amarr and Dodixie 
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Alaric T'Sun
Minmatar
Aphelion T'Sun
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:52:00 -
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An unsub date and cancellation date are not the same thing. Some people have days left, some might have months. I'm sure everyone will log in occasionally until all their time runs out.
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SamGromoff
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As you can see, Incarna is the first expansion in Eve history without a bump of logins for the runup. It is also the first where the # of logins has gone down every day after release.
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Maeve Nightside
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:53:00 -
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Logged on earlier to move some assets to my remaining account and to check out the scene in Jita. As previously stated, accounts do take time to wind down (july 22 for me). This account will, however, not be back.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Sentinels
Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: SamGromoff
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
As you can see, Incarna is the first expansion in Eve history without a bump of logins for the runup. It is also the first where the # of logins has gone down every day after release.
Let's also remember; Incarna was/is the most WAITED for expansion in Eve Online.
I've been waiting for it since 2006.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:56:00 -
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Originally by: Rina Maas
Subs do not instantly end.
Some are on year plans... so will take a while for sub to actually expire :)
This.Until the we shall rage!!!
And gank noobs.
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Kile Kitmoore
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Umm, you do know they just released an expansion right? Not just any expansion either, Incarna. You know the expansion that gets you out of the ship, that people claim they will flock to the game after it's release. If CQ was such a wonderful success don't you think they should be breaking their PCU record or getting close to it? CCP needs to log more alts.
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:57:00 -
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1 accounts take time to run out
2 the so called biggest expansion yet has just come out and ....
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Tobiaz
Spacerats
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:58:00 -
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For a saturday right after a major *cough* expansion I think 45000 is really low. Certainly not consistent with the usual trend right after new updates.
+ 1500 votes on MT in EVE | NO 79.03% | YES 5.02% | COSMETIC ONLY 11.23% | OTHER 4.73% |
Langoss
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Posted - 2011.06.25 15:59:00 -
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lot of people unsubed their alt chars (capital alt, miner alt, manufacturer alt) a capital alt log in only in war not daily
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 -
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Some people (myself included) are letting a number of their accounts expire to send a message (4 in my case) but not walking away from the game (yet) since we're hoping for a sea-change. Since those people probably wouldn't log in all their accounts at one time their missing accounts won't necessarily show up on the logged in numbers.
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 -
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people are logged to talk about the issue. it's not because they are online that they are pleased, see jita's protest and such.
to have decent number you need to wait at least one week...
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Lens Thirring
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:03:00 -
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I'd also point out, a new expansion is usually associated with a spike in user numbers, particularly one which is supposed to be as new-user oriented as this. A flat-line counts as a failure here, I'm afraid.
Indeed, this week is a time when CCP should be getting all kinds of positive press regarding Incarna and the great new features. Instead, we're seeing stories of absurd price gouging, player rage and Jita protests. So while the 'metrics' may not be obviously negative for CCP, it'll be hard to spin this as a good week.
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Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:04:00 -
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Well we were what, 20k off the PCU record during the alliance tourney?
My accounts will be gone in the next two weeks.
ÇÇP stole my heart, damn you
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:05:00 -
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I don't really care at this point if 100k people log on, tbqfh.
Also, CCP invented their own bot last year for testing purposes (it's a headless client with no GUI and they can run a few hundred on a single computer) and given how much I trust CCP these days, and how much they're willing to distort the truth and reality, I wouldn't put it past them to log on a few thousand of those bots to fudge the numbers.
But they're probably not doing that and everyone is really happy and this will all end well. 
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Nuramori
Amarr
Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: HeIIfire11
Originally by: Rina Maas
Subs do not instantly end.
Some are on year plans... so will take a while for sub to actually expire :)
This.Until the we shall rage!!!
Interesting. Form the largest corp/alliance made up completely of unsubs looking to go out in hilarity by mass ganking in the hubs and burning thru all their assets on one last party.
And gank noobs.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Been in Jita/Amarr lately have we?
No I thought not because close to 10% of the curretn PCU are there.
Have a guess what they're doing.
Oh and you have some strange smelling brown stuff on your head - may want to take a shower there you know?
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Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:08:00 -
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You can be unsubscribed and still logged into the game with your remaining gametime.
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Through Actions
Weapons Grade Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
For all the people saying subs don't end for a month or more: if you hate the new update so much why are you still playing? Seems rather psychopathic to me.
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VinLieger
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:16:00 -
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The metrics for logons wont show any significant effect for at least a month.
My own sub runs out on july 24th and its not being reupped, put the cancellation in today with the comment that unless they flat state they wont put in pay for bonus items i wont be resuscribing.
Its going to be a very gradual thing visibly and the logons wont be noticaeable till august realistically but i can guess theres a couple of accountants being paid overtime this weekend to monitor the subscription falloffs
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knanid volatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: knanid volatar on 25/06/2011 16:19:08
Originally by: Through Actions
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
For all the people saying subs don't end for a month or more: if you hate the new update so much why are you still playing? Seems rather psychopathic to me.
I think the word you are looking for is counter productive. Psychopathic means something else (and quite probably implies you are trolling for a reaction).
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Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Through Actions
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
For all the people saying subs don't end for a month or more: if you hate the new update so much why are you still playing? Seems rather psychopathic to me.
The reason why people are still posting here and playing the game, even to protest is because they still love the game they are just unhappy with CCP's current direction. And the majority of the complaints about the expansion are more concerns with CCPs future direction rather than the current state. Most notably the fact that they have dodged the question about whether or not they'll sell ingame advantages or conveniences for Aurum. And the fact that they've hinted at that in the future they'd like to make CQ mandatory and you won't be able to not load the station environment.
A lot of users would also like the old hanger view back as a option, since CQ has actually taken away a lot of features and made quick access to menus more difficult. And there is a lot of controversy surrounding why they can't just make Incarna opt-in (Especially at the moment when it's literally just minmatar CQ).
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Nuramori
Amarr
Drama Llamas
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:40:00 -
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Edited by: Nuramori on 25/06/2011 16:42:17
You nailed it suitonia. Unlike the myopic OP, most that have unsubbed will play until their time expires because they don't hate the game, in fact hope that CCP will respond positively. A cancelled subscription is easily reinstated before it times out.
If I wanted to stop playing and hated the game I wouldn't have played for the years I have, and would biomass. But just because I love playing the game doesn't mean that I can't plan for what is coming, make a statement by canceling (they will see that log transaction as a metric) and still play until either the inevitable happens or things reverse itself. Principle comes first in protest.
Now, if tomorrow MT showed up in the game as a non vanity option such as skill buying, I would biomass all my characters and backcharge CCP on my CC.
It hasn't come to that, so I remain hopeful.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:43:00 -
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there are also a lot of people that sort of randomly resubbed in the past week because they knew there was a new expansion, but didn't know how it was going to turn out.
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Takseen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
there are also a lot of people that sort of randomly resubbed in the past week because they knew there was a new expansion, but didn't know how it was going to turn out.
*raises hand
Yeah I went for the "reactivate your account for 2 months for Ç20" deal, kinda regretting it now.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:46:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Let's also remember; Incarna was/is the most WAITED for expansion in Eve Online.
I've been waiting for it since 2006.
And we're still waiting for it now.
What was released last week wasn't what was promised years ago.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Bischopt
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:46:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
After you cancel your sub you can still play for the amount of time you have already paid for. So most people who have unsubbed will be in the game protesting for quite a while. I had only paid for one month myself and my sub is running out in a couple of days so I guess I'll be one of the first to go.
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Gordon Hellbender
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:49:00 -
[35]
Just because people un-subbed doesn't mean they stopped playing right away.
Over the next month a lot of accounts will run out though.
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Morgan Polaris
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:50:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Bischopt
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
After you cancel your sub you can still play for the amount of time you have already paid for. So most people who have unsubbed will be in the game protesting for quite a while. I had only paid for one month myself and my sub is running out in a couple of days so I guess I'll be one of the first to go.
Same. One account has two weeks or so left, the other 2 months. It's why we've been using the Google Docs thread to present a more accurate metric.
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:51:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Gordon Hellbender
Just because people un-subbed doesn't mean they stopped playing right away.
Over the next month a lot of accounts will run out though.
Ive literally seen the number go from ~23,000 to 45,000~ within moments.
Litteraly.
I was showing someone the new loading screen. We were talking about the new ship and turrets. We also commented on how low the number was.
Then, it jumps, ~45,000+
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Malice Redeemer
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:51:00 -
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My accounts laps today and a few weeks from now, so keep your eve on that number
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Ramma Lamma DingDong
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:52:00 -
[39]
I hate the game so much I'm gonna unsub and ...play until my account runs out.
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:54:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Has it occured to out it is the weekend after a MAJOR EXPANSION and the population levels are the same?
That's concerning.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 16:55:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong
I hate the game so much I'm gonna unsub and ...play until my account runs out.
Bingo.
You just summed up the idiocy of this forum community in one sentence.
<3
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
You know, that sounds like a good argument for the white knighters. But it means nothing.
At this moment, CCP is getting a lot of bad press. So far, their responses have all been aimed at the topic that most of the gaming press is laughing at, the silly prices on vanity items, and not the more subtle and less easily headlined effects of MT, which is what this rage is really all about.
To keep looking good in the press, of which CCP's future revenue depends, the numbers need to look good. CCP's past revenue is the protestors that CCP is attempting to quell and ignore. CCP has every motive right now to keep those numbers up. CCP also has the means to keep those numbers up.
I'm not saying they are fixing the numbers with outright edits, or even connecting a few thousand thin clients to TQ. But they do have the ability, and they do not want bad press.
CCP is just a corporation, no better or worse than any other, we all know what corporations will do to protect their profits. CCP is no saint, no more or less than Enron or Goldman Sachs.
Connection numbers mean nothing.
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:03:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong
I hate the game so much I'm gonna unsub and ...play until my account runs out.
Bingo.
You just summed up the idiocy of this forum community in one sentence.
<3
You paid for gametime, the idiot is the one that protests by saying "Here ccp, just take my money, i wont use your server resources though. because im mad at you"
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Titus Phook
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:03:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Titus Phook on 25/06/2011 17:06:24
Quote:
Originally by:Mr Epeen
Quote:
Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDongI hate the game so much I'm gonna unsub and ...play until my account runs out.
Bingo.
You just summed up the idiocy of this forum community in one sentence.
Actually no he hasn't, most of the people unsubbing don't hate the game, we don't like the implications of the new direction CCP is alledgedly taking. I've paid up to when my sub lapses and I'm going to be playing (well kicking up a stink) until the very last minute, call me pendantic if you will but if I've damn well paid for the time, I'm damn well going to use it in any fashion I see fit to.
edited because I fail at pyramid quotes
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:05:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
You know, that sounds like a good argument for the white knighters. But it means nothing.
At this moment, CCP is getting a lot of bad press. So far, their responses have all been aimed at the topic that most of the gaming press is laughing at, the silly prices on vanity items, and not the more subtle and less easily headlined effects of MT, which is what this rage is really all about.
To keep looking good in the press, of which CCP's future revenue depends, the numbers need to look good. CCP's past revenue is the protestors that CCP is attempting to quell and ignore. CCP has every motive right now to keep those numbers up. CCP also has the means to keep those numbers up.
I'm not saying they are fixing the numbers with outright edits, or even connecting a few thousand thin clients to TQ. But they do have the ability, and they do not want bad press.
CCP is just a corporation, no better or worse than any other, we all know what corporations will do to protect their profits. CCP is no saint, no more or less than Enron or Goldman Sachs.
Connection numbers mean nothing.
well said.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:06:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Connection numbers mean nothing.
Nor do the 'I unsubbed' numbers.
So... CCP is lying and the mighty righteous forum geeks who claim to speak for the 399000 players that are still enjoying the game are lying.
Everyone's a liar, it seems.
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:07:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Ramma Lamma DingDong
I hate the game so much I'm gonna unsub and ...play until my account runs out.
Bingo.
You just summed up the idiocy of this forum community in one sentence.
<3
I don't hate this game in its current state, I do hate what it is about to become.
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Spice Redbone
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:07:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
accounts dont expire the second you unsub. mine are good till the end of the month. I am hoping this gets fixed and I can keep playing.
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Elrica bloodbane
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:11:00 -
[49]
Some people have used the 4hrs resub time to log on and protest. I hve 6 days on 1 account, and 30 on another
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:28:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Elrica bloodbane
Some people have used the 4hrs resub time to log on and protest. I hve 6 days on 1 account, and 30 on another
Thanks for that important information.
So we can safely subtract anther six or seven from the online numbers.
Yup it's starting to look pretty bad for CCP now.
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Alley Specter
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:31:00 -
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Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400
To: [email protected]
Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today
From: [email protected]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Message-Id: <[email protected]>
sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.
But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.
Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.
This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.
All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.25 17:38:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Alley Specter
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400
To: [email protected]
Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today
From: [email protected]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=öUTF-8″
Message-Id: <[email protected]>
sent by hilmar to ccp global list-
(strt)
We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember.
But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum.
Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store.
This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone.
Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change.
We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected.
All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before.
(end)
On sooo many levels, this is genius.
well done.
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Komen
Gallente
The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:00:00 -
[53]
I'm in that google doc.
My account is paid through April 01, 2012 (no joke, just when I happened to set it to yearly resubs about...oh...2005 or so).
When I went for the yearly account plan, I thought I'd never encounter a situation where I'd want to unsub. I rode out the 2006 t20 scandal...dont' remember any serious CCP shenanigans in '07-'09. Then last year, the '18 months' and so on, I rode that out. I thought 'yeah, it's bad, but they are still working on Eve, and maybe I'll get to see Incarna before 2020'.
Then, Tuesday came. I saw that Incarna is a MT vending machine, wrapped in poorly optimized (but very pretty) graphics. I listened to my poor average computer screaming, the fans going full-tilt, side-panel off. I turned off the CQ as, indeed, there's no new functionality pertaining to spaceships, which is the part of the universe-sim that I care about. Incidentally, it's a custom build computer, not some off-the-shelf vendor label.
Since Tuesday, CCP gave us first silence, than a low-level apology (CCP Pann) for their silence, but NOT for their mis-steps. Then we got senior producer CCM Zulu going 'I give no ****s if you are mad at us, and it's okay to price virtual goods at their real world counterpart's price points, and Incarna is awesome, why are you even doubting us when we say it?' and we got Fearless, in which a debate that should not even be taking place, takes place (incidentally, that 'debate' is a tactic to open up people's minds to the idea of MT on top of subscriptions, because yes, that's how fans should be treated, as wallets to be pulled from - also it's a very standard corporate strategy for communicating direction from on-high).
Lastly, I did not unsub because I hate Eve. I played in the beta, and then started subscribing in 2004 (RL issues kept me otherwise occupied between launch and joining). I have been with Eve through thick and thin, I've cheered CCP on, I've recruited RL friends to the game. I have never been a hater of EVE, and until Tuesday I was still firmly on CCP's side. Then, the wool got pulled from my eyes, and a cold wind blew through, and other metaphoric cliches happened, and goddamn but this smells a lot like 'greed is good?' is really 'Greed is good, OBEY.'
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NellieLovett
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:01:00 -
[54]
Once you cancel, you have the remainder of the month left, so why not log in and join the lagfest protests!
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:02:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
funny thing, you can unsub and still log in if you have time remaining. I know I'm going to keep my isk making operations going til the last day. The action of canceling an account, letting CCP know youre not going to be giving them cash going forward is distinctly different from logging in and playing on the time you have already paid for.
Get a clue.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:04:00 -
[56]
Originally by: NellieLovett
Once you cancel, you have the remainder of the month left, so why not log in and join the lagfest protests!
Lets see...
You quit because you don't like the game anymore.
But you are still logging in and playing it.
Why?
Just leave.
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Kainulf
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:11:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Just leave.
I'm sorry, are we bothering you?
"Noise in the channel."
"Very predictable feedback."
2000+ subscriptions cancelled
Major trade hubs near-standstill
STAY THE COURSE |
Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:12:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: NellieLovett
Once you cancel, you have the remainder of the month left, so why not log in and join the lagfest protests!
Lets see...
You quit because you don't like the game anymore.
But you are still logging in and playing it.
Why?
Just leave.
No one has said they don't like the game anymore, they have said they don't like what it is about to become, troll.
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Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:12:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
IGNORE THE GOOGLE DOC
There are many thousands more unsubscriptions who really couldn't give too ****s about being in a google doc.
If anything taking tally's just serves to reduce the impact of something which is MUCH larger then those numbers indicate.
His name was John Turbefield!
Truth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4YHvtEJgBc Best brief on the details.
FREE HELICITY |
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:13:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Kainulf
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Just leave.
I'm sorry, are we bothering you?
If you need to ask that, you are more of an idiot than most of the moronic inbreeds posting here.
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Melina Yeoh
Caldari
Domination Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:15:00 -
[61]
45k people on and funny enough, no one is leaving yet as they cancel and still play. If people are mad over one feature, then just don't use it at all. People should already know that there's hundreds of other games besides EVE and if I get bored, I simply unsub for a while and come back at later time.
I'm still laughing at those people shooting at a monument in Jita all night and it's not dying. Better off just shooting other people and killing each other in empire for a change. It's one way to vent and feel better afterwards. Shame how people claim to unsub but they're still here playing the game anyways.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken. |
Kainulf
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:15:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
If you need to ask that, you are more of an idiot than most of the moronic inbreeds posting here.
That's a really solid argument you have there.
"Noise in the channel."
"Very predictable feedback."
2000+ subscriptions cancelled
Major trade hubs near-standstill
STAY THE COURSE |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:16:00 -
[63]
You must be new here
Once a year, we go thru the :RAEG: people quit en-masse and its the SWG:NGE all over again. ****ing seriously, if you listen to the forums, the SWG:NGE was every expansion.
...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala. |
Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:16:00 -
[64]
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:21:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
Yup pack the server.
That'll show Hilmar who's boss.
You know the guy who said **** those whiny *****es, it's the numbers that talk. Oh wai...
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Cailais
Amarr
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:22:00 -
[66]
OMG if everyone is still playing Id better stay!! Otherwise no one will like me and I'll fail at life!
Oh wait, no, I still in fact have free will. I'm not over exaggerating my position: I don't want to play CCP's vision of EVE as it stands. It's impossible to exaggerate that.
C.
'GREED IS GOOD' - CCP 2011 (ಠ_O)
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Cooper Anderson Stewart
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:25:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Maeve Nightside
Logged on earlier to move some assets to my remaining account and to check out the scene in Jita. As previously stated, accounts do take time to wind down (july 22 for me). This account will, however, not be back.
The OP is trying to convince himself and friends its all ok and maybe his dream of buying Sisters ships for AUR WILL BE REALIZED AND HE CAN DOMINATE THE FLOOD OF WOW! AND LINEAGE! players all over the server.
This char had 1.4 Billion isk and ive been giving sh it away for two days but at midnight its over. My other is 2 Days from the hulk i worked on forever but since mining is pointless hes done next month.
LOGON NUMBERS != subscriptions.
How many are buddy keys and steam accounts trying to use jita and are so lagged they uninstall..the end has started. Not everyone is drinking Hilmar koolaidÖ
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Oska Drey
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Posted - 2011.06.25 18:53:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Just popped in to the forums.
WOW!
I'll say this. Not much of this has filtered into the general population. Then I don't hang out in Jita or Amarr. I suppose things are noticeable there. Other than that, the amount of people in the systems I've been through today seems pretty normal. Pilots just doing their thing. Not running rampant trying to destroy nodes or anything. I think perhaps this has snowballed due to the insular way the forums are. Most people really are just enjoying the game with no anger. Except the usual. Getting ganked and stuff.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.25 19:04:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Oska Drey
I'll say this. Not much of this has filtered into the general population. Then I don't hang out in Jita or Amarr. I suppose things are noticeable there. Other than that, the amount of people in the systems I've been through today seems pretty normal. Pilots just doing their thing. Not running rampant trying to destroy nodes or anything. I think perhaps this has snowballed due to the insular way the forums are. Most people really are just enjoying the game with no anger. Except the usual. Getting ganked and stuff.
May very well be the case. Then one day, if CCP does go along with what they have yet refused to deny, that happy player that never pays attention to the forums will ask a friend, "Hey how do i do that?" And he will be told he has to go get his real wallet and buy it.
Wait till he can buy his SP, his faction standing, has to pay rent to keep his ship fittings, is forced to keep up in the PVP arms race with ever increasing 'voluntary' micro-transactions.
Oh but this will never happen you say. Wrong. This is how Dust514 will be launched. It will impact Eve. Precisely how it manifests is difficult to predict, but a new avenue of wealth is going to be introduced into the sandbox that is not created in the sandbox.
MT for advantage will be coming. Sooner or later Eve will be a big theme park filled with instant gratification whroes who would turn their back on Eve the moment the next shiny MMO or Game Title bounces across their screen.
CCP hopes you don't notice, enjoy bliss while it lasts.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ |
Bklyn 1
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Posted - 2011.06.25 19:09:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
Yup pack the server.
That'll show Hilmar who's boss.
You know the guy who said **** those whiny *****es, it's the numbers that talk. Oh wai...
No, it's more like I do what I want, lemming. I'm not here to prove any points. I spent the money, I'll play it out if I feel like it. Though tbh, I havent been on, just havent had the desire.
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Madjak Burton
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Posted - 2011.06.25 19:13:00 -
[71]
ya, i can unsub throw my tantrums play out my remaining time and then resub after my account is dead for 1 day thank you very much.
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.25 20:46:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
Yup pack the server.
That'll show Hilmar who's boss.
You know the guy who said **** those whiny *****es, it's the numbers that talk. Oh wai...
"packing" the serving costs CCP money, so ya do it.
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jx3p
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Posted - 2011.06.25 20:56:00 -
[73]
Considering that an expansion was just released, possibly the most anticipated expansion in EVE's life?, 45k people online is hardly anything to write about. Shouldn't ex-players be flocking back to the game to try out this awesome expansions? Shouldn't there be a flood of trial accounts to see what the fuss is all about?
Seems like another normal day in EVE to me.
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FarosWarrior
Amarr
Pure Dutch Damage Corp
Care Factor
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:09:00 -
[74]
Originally by: jx3p
Considering that an expansion was just released, possibly the most anticipated expansion in EVE's life?, 45k people online is hardly anything to write about. Shouldn't ex-players be flocking back to the game to try out this awesome expansions? Shouldn't there be a flood of trial accounts to see what the fuss is all about?
Seems like another normal day in EVE to me.
It's only partly about the CQ... It's more about the MT thing certain players feel "forced" into methinks... But then again, NeX doesn't bother me in any way.
Neither does buying sp, just like powerleveling in other games... If it get's people an advantage, others will cry about it. But then again, SP doesn't reflect on how you use ships ingame.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:13:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Amber Villaneous
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
Yup pack the server.
That'll show Hilmar who's boss.
You know the guy who said **** those whiny *****es, it's the numbers that talk. Oh wai...
"packing" the serving costs CCP money, so ya do it.
Yeah, I remember all the times the server was near record numbers and all the mods were encouraging people to not log on because it was going to cost too much 
Try harder, ******.
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gdjghjhgjfh
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:19:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
can you log on and give me your stuff? :D
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gdjghjhgjfh
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:22:00 -
[77]
Originally by: jx3p
Considering that an expansion was just released, possibly the most anticipated expansion in EVE's life?, 45k people online is hardly anything to write about. Shouldn't ex-players be flocking back to the game to try out this awesome expansions? Shouldn't there be a flood of trial accounts to see what the fuss is all about?
Seems like another normal day in EVE to me.
Eve online #s have been declining for years...I doubt old players will come back (based on age of the game) as they have either
1. died
2. forgot the game existed
3. have more important things to do
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ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:24:00 -
[78]
BOth my subs are dico'd don't run out till aug...just want to go out in a bang!!!!
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Norian Lonark
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:26:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
Originally by: Oska Drey
I'll say this. Not much of this has filtered into the general population. Then I don't hang out in Jita or Amarr. I suppose things are noticeable there. Other than that, the amount of people in the systems I've been through today seems pretty normal. Pilots just doing their thing. Not running rampant trying to destroy nodes or anything. I think perhaps this has snowballed due to the insular way the forums are. Most people really are just enjoying the game with no anger. Except the usual. Getting ganked and stuff.
May very well be the case. Then one day, if CCP does go along with what they have yet refused to deny, that happy player that never pays attention to the forums will ask a friend, "Hey how do i do that?" And he will be told he has to go get his real wallet and buy it.
Wait till he can buy his SP, his faction standing, has to pay rent to keep his ship fittings, is forced to keep up in the PVP arms race with ever increasing 'voluntary' micro-transactions.
Oh but this will never happen you say. Wrong. This is how Dust514 will be launched. It will impact Eve. Precisely how it manifests is difficult to predict, but a new avenue of wealth is going to be introduced into the sandbox that is not created in the sandbox.
MT for advantage will be coming. Sooner or later Eve will be a big theme park filled with instant gratification whroes who would turn their back on Eve the moment the next shiny MMO or Game Title bounces across their screen.
CCP hopes you don't notice, enjoy bliss while it lasts.
This is the truth.
Most players who dont know what is going on wont know till its too late.
Hopefully the ones who bother to read dev posts and follow what's going on in the game will prevail so everyone can carry-on enjoying eve.
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Mitsurugii
Amarr
Rekall Incorporated
The Fendahlian Collective
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:34:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
How many times do we have to repeat explanations of basic account mechanics? I`ve unsubbed but can still log in until 01/08 due to repeat sub i was on for FIVE years, I can still log in and talk to the community I (mostly) love to spread support further, and yes it is working, 5 of my mates are doing the same with mains, alts etc. Unsubbing isn't quitting eve and giving some d**k my stuff, its suspending payment to dent their precious finances. And for the inevitable "even 10,000 desubs wont matter" line - It will, apparently subscription model "isnt working` as it is to fund 3 game development projects (shock horror, maybe the economist they got onboard needs to go back to basic math school) and they need to scam $80 out of people for a flipping pixel monocle.
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"I want to die peacefully in my sleep like Grandad....not screaming and shouting like the passengers in his car" |
Darik Jita
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:43:00 -
[81]
FAIL OP MISUNDERSTAND UNSUB MECHANICS IS FAIL.
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Peter XZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.25 21:45:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Kerppe Krulli
Assuming there hasn't been any "code adjustments". I too know of sites purporting X people doing something, a code here and normalization there can make it say whatever you want. CCP's damage control of late has been nuke, ban, ban, silence, nuke. Wouldn't surprise me in the least that they are dishonest enough to start fidget numbers to hide an exodus. Remember they are not public, they don't have to be honest in regards to their sub numbers or those online.
Oh no, conspiracy theorist
**Time Passes, Eternity Awaits, Jesus Saves, and no you can't take Eve with you.**Hi to all my Eve Youtube friends, you kno who you are *\o/* traditional500 channel |
Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
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Posted - 2011.06.25 22:02:00 -
[83]
"Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say."
In other words to the emo-raging bitter vet minority that has whined about every change made for years...rabble, rabble, rabble. 
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Amber Villaneous
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Posted - 2011.06.25 22:03:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Amber Villaneous
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
Yup pack the server.
That'll show Hilmar who's boss.
You know the guy who said **** those whiny *****es, it's the numbers that talk. Oh wai...
"packing" the serving costs CCP money, so ya do it.
Yeah, I remember all the times the server was near record numbers and all the mods were encouraging people to not log on because it was going to cost too much
Try harder, ******.
Another tard. I have cancelled my subs and still have time remaining, I stay logged on and do stuff to use bandwidth and electricity that cost CCP real money, just because you are to ******ed to see that does not mean others are.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:36:00 -
[85]
Suitonia was probably the first to answer correctly and I support her response.
All those so droned on something I already knew should take another gander at thier surroundings, seriously.
And for amarr's sake DO NOT POST THAT EMAIL IN HERE, I'll will report you and request a tempo ban from the froums if your going around to get threads locked, I'm sure most of the hardcore eve players already seen and read the email.
So my next question is what if ccp are betting people hopeing you guys will resub up in the future?
Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 3APR11
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Shepard Book
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:40:00 -
[86]
Edited by: Shepard Book on 26/06/2011 00:44:47
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Here is a hint. Not everyone that trolled they are leaving is going to leave.
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Seishi Maru
doMAL S.A.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:43:00 -
[87]
and another hint. For the 1 thousand accoutns unsubbed (theorethical number) there are 2 thousand people that are nwo in Jita protesting And thsoe peopel , a lot fo them woudl normally NOT be online right now...
That balances a lot.
Also after a new expansion usually we have a HUGE increase in online players. We don't have it now. So player number wise it has not shown any signal of success yet. The losses form unsubscriptions will hit them only after 3-6 months.
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Thodol
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:44:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Bklyn 1
Unsubbed. Not donating my remaining, prepaid play time to them. Heck, how greedy can they get, now they want that too? I'll log on just to make Jita more of a slideshow if I want.
Yup pack the server.
That'll show Hilmar who's boss.
You know the guy who said **** those whiny *****es, it's the numbers that talk. Oh wai...
No he said that actions spoke volumes. You know the 3+ thousand people crashing every trade hub in the game. ur dum
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:44:00 -
[89]
Edited by: MotherMoon on 26/06/2011 00:46:24
just becuase I canceled my account doesn't mean I can't log in just to spread the message and link the leaked documents while I have 23 days left.
Originally by: Syn Callibri
"Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say."
In other words to the emo-raging bitter vet minority that has whined about every change made for years...rabble, rabble, rabble.
This is different. This is even wrose than the reverted 100 page carrier change dev blog. And all that was going to do was make it so motherships could only control 5 fighters.
Eve the great nano nerf didn't effect the game much. Lots of people complained. But in the end no one did anythig about it, the press never picked up on it, and all in all the number of subs increased.
Can you link one other expansion that got this much bad press on non-eve websites?
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:45:00 -
[90]
Originally by: MotherMoon
just becuase I canceled my account doesn't mean I can't log in just to spread the message and link the leaked documents while I have 23 days left.
yh im un subbed but logging in to viva la revolution
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Ariel Nova
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:47:00 -
[91]
I still have time on my account.. August
many people have time remaining.. the effects will take time
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Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:49:00 -
[92]
This is hilariously pathetic.
Unsubbed but still playing EVE
You can stutter about "protests" all you like, but the amusing thing is that shooting a monument achieves NOTHING.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:49:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Syn Callibri
"Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say."
In other words to the emo-raging bitter vet minority that has whined about every change made for years...rabble, rabble, rabble.
Here I am giving props to Syn.
There's a first.
This expansion has me agreeing with all kinds of people I have been traditionally at odds with. Perhaps I was to quick to judge in the past.
Anyway, Syn, have a <3 from Mr Epeen.
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leth ghost
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:53:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet
This is hilariously pathetic.
Unsubbed but still playing EVE
You can stutter about "protests" all you like, but the amusing thing is that shooting a monument achieves NOTHING.
iv seen alot of people raging on here about ppl shooting the monument must be achieving something
so your wrong
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Koramok
Amarr
Cold Carbon Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:56:00 -
[95]
44k of that 45k are macro bots who don't read the forums...
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Boaz Hedion Merkava
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:56:00 -
[96]
Currently there are "only" 35k people logged on ...... and that number seems to be declining.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.26 00:58:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Alley Specter
LOL, good use for that old chestnut
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Della Monk
Broski Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.26 01:01:00 -
[98]
Let's not forget that despite how limited it is, finally being able to 'walk in stations' was what a lot of people were waiting for before trying eve. Wonder how many of those are new trial accounts.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:10:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Darik Jita
FAIL OP MISUNDERSTAND UNSUB MECHANICS IS FAIL.
OP's understanding of unsub mechanics makes your point invalid and failure of the idiocy test laid out by the fox.
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Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:11:00 -
[100]
Oh look
It's this thread again
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Anon Forumalt6858
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:15:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
When you get big, son, you'll learn how the cancellation of subscription based services work. It's ok, just get your homework done before beddy-bye time.
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His name was John Turbefield!
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Bonnie BoneBreaker
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:20:00 -
[102]
I canceled, but I my account doesn't run out till august.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:21:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Anon Forumalt6858
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
When you get big, son, you'll learn how the cancellation of subscription based services work. It's ok, just get your homework done before beddy-bye time.
... another test failure.
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Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:32:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Never would have pegged you for a jackass.
Yeah so much for ship designing and fanboism? Good thing about this all is it is showing who is who and on what side of the fence they stand in this, regardless of resolution or final outcome or whoever is left after this.
Good to see so many masks falling off finally.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:43:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Brujo Loco
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: Nova Fox
It seems awfully alot considering we're supposed to be down a couple thosuands of subs according to my copy and pasting over at that one one google document thread.
Either way the accountoffskis seem to be over exaggerating thier positions.
Never would have pegged you for a jackass.
Yeah so much for ship designing and fanboism? Good thing about this all is it is showing who is who and on what side of the fence they stand in this, regardless of resolution or final outcome or whoever is left after this.
Good to see so many masks falling off finally.
Me? I'm just playing to my nature as an agent of chaos, I like to stir things up every so often, sheep are such easy targets in such turbulent times. As for the mask I never had, why wear one? I mean isnt that what alts are for? Old timers in the fourms do know that I can be extremly vexxing and vague at times to draw lesser minded into the open field. Jackasses do it out of entertainment, I am just compelled to do this by nature in the vain hope that maybe I can make one lesser of an idiot out there.
-Cheers,
Fox
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stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.27 00:29:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Della Monk
Let's not forget that despite how limited it is, finally being able to 'walk in stations' was what a lot of people were waiting for before trying eve. Wonder how many of those are new trial accounts.
Any bets on just how "sticky" Incarna is? Anyone who signed up because of WiS probably won't be impressed with a stay in a one person Motel 6 and a rather limited selection of MT items.
CCP needs to drop a lot of WiS and MT content and fast.
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:14:00 -
[107]
True but thats the hope IMO the Nex should have opened with 10x the items.
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Aroh X
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:20:00 -
[108]
Numbers are down, by a good few thousand on what you would expect. Check out the data graphs here:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
You can see the first couple of days after the patch, the numbers online during the peak time of the day were up by about 2000 on the same time the previous week as people came back to check out the new patch, but the really telling stat is today - the peak time for EVE each week.
There has been quite a drastic drop off today, only approx 53,000 online at its peak, compared to just over 56,000 at the same time last week - that has got to be seriously disturbing to CCP, a drop in peak numbers after a new patch where they would have been expecting a significant up turn.
Don't listen to what the players are saying... look at what they are doing.
These graphs are starting to show a pretty clear picture of what players are doing.
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diaufop
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:31:00 -
[109]
Edited by: diaufop on 27/06/2011 04:36:24
This account doesn't run out 'till September. Why not shoot a statue until then? I've already paid for that miniscule amount of bandwidth and server usage.
Considering that this expansion finally saw the launch of the initial stage of Walking in Stations that CCP have been promising for many years now, they should have hit 60,000+, I wouldn't be surprised if CCP were expecting a new PCU in fact at prime time Sat/Sun.
Also don't forget that 50,000 active users is only ~30,00 players, given EVE has ~20,000 bots running on it 23/7.
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Talsha Talamar
Amarr
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:36:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Aroh X
Numbers are down, by a good few thousand on what you would expect. Check out the data graphs here:
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
You can see the first couple of days after the patch, the numbers online during the peak time of the day were up by about 2000 on the same time the previous week as people came back to check out the new patch, but the really telling stat is today - the peak time for EVE each week.
There has been quite a drastic drop off today, only approx 53,000 online at its peak, compared to just over 56,000 at the same time last week - that has got to be seriously disturbing to CCP, a drop in peak numbers after a new patch where they would have been expecting a significant up turn.
Don't listen to what the players are saying... look at what they are doing.
These graphs are starting to show a pretty clear picture of what players are doing.
Also shortly before Incarna they issued
one of these 5 day free gametime and
20 Euro for 2 Month offers.
That should have brought in a few numbers.
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Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:38:00 -
[111]
Funny yesterday i logged in there was 36k ppl on at 9pm est. Today there was 26k only.
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Aroh X
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Posted - 2011.06.27 05:18:00 -
[112]
Will be interesting to keep an eye on the server stats in another couple of weeks when the free trials for Perpetuum expire and see how many come back :)
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Borun Tal
Minmatar
Just Abide
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Posted - 2011.06.27 05:21:00 -
[113]
The quitters haven't quit. Sort of. They all wanted their failbravado in the failquitter thread for e-peen goodness.
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Fractal Muse
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Posted - 2011.06.27 05:26:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Borun Tal
The quitters haven't quit. Sort of. They all wanted their failbravado in the failquitter thread for e-peen goodness.
Not sure what you mean by that. But, I hit quote, and figured I'd quote it since it doesn't make sense so I like it.
The trend of less players on after a major release is dismaying. If CCP continues to bleed subscriptions then 'bad things' will happen to the player market. From there, that will impact the remaining players, and make the game more difficult for them. In turn, more will leave...
The EVE ship is sinking still even after "three" CCP blogs / announcements / addresses to the community. Their plan to keep stalling and wait out the storm isn't working so far.
Maybe it'll start working tomorrow...
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