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A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:22:00 -
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Well I am going to buck the trend and watch the veins on the foreheads of the rage quitters explode by suggesting this. I might not agree with it but it might show that CCP have actually been increasing their subscriber base. Now subscriptions is not the same as unique players. For all I know there just might be a lot of the same people just buying extra accounts but since we'll never know that information this is the best to go on :-
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
The daily average is increasing and past few months have been stable or slightly increasing. I guess we'll see how it shows in a couple months time.
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Ren Nekk
Dead Eye Dogs
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:24:00 -
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The important difference now: all those people online whose subs aren't expiring should be embarrassed.
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:25:00 -
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Or poeple getting their house in order before they go into Hybernation?
The vast majority of those accounts are alts. Alts that need to be organized before they are cancelled, and subsequently hybernated for the potential future fixing of eve and their ressurection.
Some players are there for the party. See Vietnam Protesting at wikipedia.
And then the other 40,000 are Server Pop; Add 40,000
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Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:27:00 -
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 Originally by: Ren Nekk
The important difference now: all those people online whose subs aren't expiring should be embarrassed.
Why at a minimum they got CCP's attention. They showed CCP that no they can not just ignore what the player base wants.
Seems like a very successful bit of direct action to me.
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Spartan 019
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:28:00 -
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Well, by the looks of it... Ladies and gentlemen, we may finally return to the 19k peek days. Though, I doubt the general feeling wont be as ambitious for the playerbase as it is for the pockets of CCP...
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Kerrisone
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:29:00 -
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Again a simple answer for a simple mind, I'm sure there isn't any propaganda being sent out to old accounts that 'incarna is here' come take a look for free five days, etc. Or any other of the numerous possibilities that explain the numbers, or the tried and true explanation that people who quit don't all stop playing ASAP and might actually want to get the most out of the time they paid for.
Originally by: Ghoest
Ill watch what you do not what you say.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:32:00 -
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1) if they paid for it they should use it
2) maybe they are still protesting... OP is making assumptions
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Tahcoe
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:38:00 -
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Hasn't other minor expansions topped at 60k+ logged on?
This one is the big one people have waited years for afterall.
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Ohforgetaboutit
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:39:00 -
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And we're all shooting at statues...
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RougeOperator
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: A Little Girl
Well I am going to buck the trend and watch the veins on the foreheads of the rage quitters explode by suggesting this. I might not agree with it but it might show that CCP have actually been increasing their subscriber base. Now subscriptions is not the same as unique players. For all I know there just might be a lot of the same people just buying extra accounts but since we'll never know that information this is the best to go on :-
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
The daily average is increasing and past few months have been stable or slightly increasing. I guess we'll see how it shows in a couple months time.
The guy making alts to make troll threads is back.
People are just getting stuff in order. They dont give you a refund on the time you have left to play so they are using it.
Not that hard to figure out.
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Capdown Jakuard
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:41:00 -
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When you say subscribers, do you mean people that are on trial accounts too?
I thought the server player count you showed us tallies up both?
If it does, that number does not really mean much at all. Besides, I bet a large amount of those new trial accounts are the ones that are doing the protesting in the first place.
I'm waiting to see too, it is interesting to watch 
Only time will tell
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Langoss
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:41:00 -
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it was 53700 on preious sunday... nothing special
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: A Little Girl
Well I am going to buck the trend and watch the veins on the foreheads of the rage quitters explode by suggesting this. I might not agree with it but it might show that CCP have actually been increasing their subscriber base. Now subscriptions is not the same as unique players. For all I know there just might be a lot of the same people just buying extra accounts but since we'll never know that information this is the best to go on :-
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
The daily average is increasing and past few months have been stable or slightly increasing. I guess we'll see how it shows in a couple months time.
I don't know what planet your on....
...since February 2011 the numbers have been steadily tracking down. That Spike you see in February is the release of PI/Incursions spike.
Where is the release of Incarna spike?
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Ozmodan
Minmatar
Massively Mob
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:43:00 -
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Edited by: Ozmodan on 26/06/2011 19:44:29
"The important difference now: all those people online whose subs aren't expiring should be embarrassed."
Actually the posters upset over this incident should be the embarrassed ones, they are having a fit over nothing.
The fact that the rage quitters won't admit, they are a very small minority. About the only thing they do with Eve is troll the forums.
CCP knows that the vast majority of players is quite happy with the game as it is.
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Tahcoe
Hasn't other minor expansions topped at 60k+ logged on?
No
And aside from the ranting of the protest apologists, EVE seems to be doing just fine.
Who was it that said they look at the actions and not the forum rants? Oh yeah... Hilmar in that email you all are so fond of waving around.
The actions show me that your revolution is ineffective at best.
Mr Epeen 
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:45:00 -
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Nothing special!!!! This was INCARNA!!!
We've waited 5 years for this and when it arrived the servers should of melted from the amount of players trying to log on.
It didn't, instead the trend of falling numbers that began with Greyscales failed tweeks to nul-sec in January has continued.
This is a DISASTER!!!!
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Skex Relbore
Gallente
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Tahcoe
Hasn't other minor expansions topped at 60k+ logged on?
No
And aside from the ranting of the protest apologists, EVE seems to be doing just fine.
Who was it that said they look at the actions and not the forum rants? Oh yeah... Hilmar in that email you all are so fond of waving around.
The actions show me that your revolution is ineffective at best.
Mr Epeen
CCP paying to fly the CSM out to Iceland would seem to contradict your argument. If they really thought things were going so swimmingly do you really think they'd bother?
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Reed Tiburon
Caldari
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:54:00 -
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What do you think happens every time an MMO expansion is released?
Tons of people resub, see what's new, get bored, and quit the game again.
http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png
Notice the spikes.
We won't know the effects of this rage for another 2-3 months.
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Mintoko
Gallente
Taedium In Perpetuam
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: A Little Girl
Well I am going to buck the trend and watch the veins on the foreheads of the rage quitters explode by suggesting this. I might not agree with it but it might show that CCP have actually been increasing their subscriber base. Now subscriptions is not the same as unique players. For all I know there just might be a lot of the same people just buying extra accounts but since we'll never know that information this is the best to go on :-
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
The daily average is increasing and past few months have been stable or slightly increasing. I guess we'll see how it shows in a couple months time.
You're not the first person to make this mistake in the last few days and somehow, I believe you know this. Those who have or will unsubscribe will not immediately be quitting. Depending on the subscription, they may have a matter of days, weeks, months, up to a year before their account actually terminates.
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Indy Rider
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:56:00 -
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Subscriptions aside, gaming sites are focusing on CCP and their reactions to how they've dealt with the blow back from the player group.
The damage from the last week or so will be worse than any possible decline in subs. If they don't realise this, they're beyond help.
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Norian Lonark
Gallente
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Skex Relbore
Originally by: Mr Epeen
Originally by: Tahcoe
Hasn't other minor expansions topped at 60k+ logged on?
No
And aside from the ranting of the protest apologists, EVE seems to be doing just fine.
Who was it that said they look at the actions and not the forum rants? Oh yeah... Hilmar in that email you all are so fond of waving around.
The actions show me that your revolution is ineffective at best.
Mr Epeen
CCP paying to fly the CSM out to Iceland would seem to contradict your argument. If they really thought things were going so swimmingly do you really think they'd bother?
This is the truth CCP are monitoring the situation, if nobody was cancelling their accounts and they were not concerned at all do you really think they would bother with this. Why not just ignore it or release another blog. They are trying to calm down the playerbase and stop whatever is happening.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Desert Ice78
..We've waited 5 years for this and when it arrived the servers should of melted from the amount of players trying to log on...
That would make sense if everything else had been put on hold for Incarna which is hardly the case. They have had more hits than misses in the time I have been around which is fairly good considering the size of the thing.
When they assign people to a permanent team to handle balancing, things will start moving along much more quickly I think .. biggest hurdle is as ever that we players still take any changes to whatever FoTM we are riding as a personal attack and go all emo for no reason.
The people leaving over Sanctums changes were noobs, literally. Few (if any) of them ever experienced the game before the infini-ISK was introduced so all they saw was their income stripped away and they never bothered looking around for alternatives.
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Tane Enat
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:06:00 -
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You can start by Deleting me (and a few more) from your happy list of thousands unsubscibers.
Do you see now what's going on?
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Princess Gankskank
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:08:00 -
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I have multiple accounts. I recently reactivated a few of them, but after this fiasco I am holding off on reactivating anymore of them until this gets sorted.
One Sunday's player count really doesn't tell the story. I know I am now holding off reactivating a high sec POS and have not placed any items/modules in my corporate hangers.
My guess is that CCP has lost ALOT more real money this week than what they will make of those silly Vanity items in the next year.
I know I am holding off activating a number of accounts, which I pay for 3 to 6 months in advance, because of this mess.
That's Hundreds of USD$ just from me.
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Johny Fuckkin Dango
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:09:00 -
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a lot of people have signed up to eve cause of all the press
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edith prickley
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:13:00 -
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Compare with last Sunday's peak. There was an expansion in between. Call that a success if you like. Their accountants won't.
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:14:00 -
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Okay, I'm going to put on the tinfoil hat here, but this is just from my experience and the truth of what happened to Star Wars Galaxies.
Back in the days of SWG SOE were absolutely desperate to show that their game was doing well when thousands upon thousands of people were having a mass exodus from their servers, they lied about the subscriber numbers to keep people in, they even fixed the population thresholds for the severs that measured whether they were low/medium/high so it took a lot less people than before to make the servers go to the highest measurement of the servers. In their PR they also lied dozens of times about the way they were going and basically ignored completely anything that was going on with the actual playerbase, essentially putting fingers in their ears and screaming "LALALALALALALALA" until even the players who liked the changes would leave because nothing was being done.
I would not trust a single word from anything CCP says until we have a real and open dialogue that isn't just them using their PR tools like CSM to try and cull the now very understandable rage.
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Bomberlocks
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: A Little Girl
Well I am going to buck the trend and watch the veins on the foreheads of the rage quitters explode by suggesting this. I might not agree with it but it might show that CCP have actually been increasing their subscriber base. Now subscriptions is not the same as unique players. For all I know there just might be a lot of the same people just buying extra accounts but since we'll never know that information this is the best to go on :-
http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility
The daily average is increasing and past few months have been stable or slightly increasing. I guess we'll see how it shows in a couple months time.
We'll see at the end of July 
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:20:00 -
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Pre-patch sunday: 56k peak.
Post-patch sunday: 53k peak.
Between the two, the expansion everyone has been talking about for the last 3-5 years.
What's wrong with this pictureà? 
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ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö
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Doh Stupid
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Posted - 2011.06.27 07:21:00 -
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Pack instinct. They all want to take their bite out of CCP. But when its over they will leave a pretty big hole.
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