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Evalon Fury
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:13:00 -
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 Originally by: quite cute kinda
CCP ZULU: Due to the volatility of the topic we want to refrain from any further comments on this matter until after meeting with the CSM.
Way to go guys, you couldn't even wait until the csm meeting.
Well said!
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Thimn Witt
Amarr
Alien Pancake Bonanza
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:17:00 -
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What a load of steaming bovine matter! Why even bother dragging the CSM to Iceland, it is just going to be a dog and pony show. 
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Talsha Talamar
Amarr
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 28/06/2011 19:23:15
So CCP refuses any communication to its playerbase till after the CSM-Summit,
but they talk to some irrelevant website ?
I thought CCP aimed to rebuild trust ?
I thought CCP wanted to open a constructive dialogue ?
I pity their PR people.
No one deserves that kind of management.
Another mindless slap into the customers face.
Well done CCP.
(t-12 days or so)
Disclaimer:
This interview might have been done before the last Zulu Devblog.
Release:
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(28.6.2011 | 14:13) Interview
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Yabba Addict
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:23:00 -
[64]
We'll just have to wait and see i guess, but i ain't resubbing till i hear a resounding NO!!
Subscription 2.0 û the future is TODAY!
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Takashi Halamoto
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:23:00 -
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yeah i bet even now this case is being handed back to the pr people
shame you can hear the box ticking.....
Me? im just sitting here,
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:23:00 -
[66]
Secret leaked look into CCP offices at this moment,
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Amanda Maricadie
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:25:00 -
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its simple the bottom line....MT sales will be greater than subscription sales....this happened to other games i played....eventually it will be 20% content update and 80% MT updates, they will eventually sell a host full of stuff in their little "cash shop" including 2x SP boost and other things....well this will happened if they go with the current business models of other MMORPG games
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: Talsha Talamar
So CCP refuses any communication to its playerbase till after the CSM-Summit,
but they talk to some irrelevant website ?
I think the translation isn't particularly good or even close to what he said, but this point still stands.
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Spacing Cowboy
Caldari
Rule of Five
Split Infinity.
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:32:00 -
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Safe to say that the chase fire was violated.
Idiots... If the csm meeting is rigged, at least make it look good.
Amateurs, stop underestimating the playerbase ablity for meta gaming...
You guys promoted it!!
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:33:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Amanda Maricadie
its simple the bottom line....MT sales will be greater than subscription sales....this happened to other games i played....eventually it will be 20% content update and 80% MT updates,
20% content?! That sounds fantastic! Incarna was 0% after all.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Saving Face
Originally by: Talsha Talamar
So CCP refuses any communication to its playerbase till after the CSM-Summit,
but they talk to some irrelevant website ?
I think the translation isn't particularly good or even close to what he said, but this point still stands.
Exactly, why is everyone up in arms when Google Translate obviously cannot handle Icelandic very well at all?
MBL is not irrelevant by the way, it's one of two (technically three) large papers in Iceland.
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Juliette DuBois
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:36:00 -
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Well someone from Iceland translate it then! I know there are quite a few players from there.
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Elrica bloodbane
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:38:00 -
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Corporate Sh*t Management trip to iceland is a stall tactic
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Nikki West
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:39:00 -
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Sigh at ÇÇP. Again.
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Anon Forumalt6858
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Katrina Cortez
I am just wondering how deep a hole these guys can dig...
CCP is just trying to help the Icelandic economy. They're doing their part digging in hopes of reaching Japan. Once the hole is complete, they'll have a direct pipeline to the supplier of the $1000 jeans they love so much.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Anon Forumalt6858
Originally by: Katrina Cortez
I am just wondering how deep a hole these guys can dig...
CCP is just trying to help the Icelandic economy. They're doing their part digging in hopes of reaching Japan. Once the hole is complete, they'll have a direct pipeline to the supplier of the $1000 jeans they love so much.
LMAO
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Talsha Talamar
Amarr
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Talsha Talamar on 28/06/2011 19:42:35
Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
Originally by: Saving Face
Originally by: Talsha Talamar
So CCP refuses any communication to its playerbase till after the CSM-Summit,
but they talk to some irrelevant website ?
I think the translation isn't particularly good or even close to what he said, but this point still stands.
Exactly, why is everyone up in arms when Google Translate obviously cannot handle Icelandic very well at all?
MBL is not irrelevant by the way, it's one of two (technically three) large papers in Iceland.
Originally by: CCP Zulu
Due to the volatility of the topic we want to refrain from any further comments on this matter until after meeting with the CSM.
If you do not see the problem, then I am at a loss here.
A newspaper with distribution numbers below that of our city newspaper is irrelevant from my point of view.
The fact that it is a major icelandic newspaper does not help your point.
Actually its sharpens mine:
So CCP sees the need to talk to one of their most relevant national media,
while refusing to talk to its playerbase about the same subject ?
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Capsuleer Newton
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:42:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Amanda Maricadie
its simple the bottom line....MT sales will be greater than subscription sales....this happened to other games i played....eventually it will be 20% content update and 80% MT updates, they will eventually sell a host full of stuff in their little "cash shop" including 2x SP boost and other things....well this will happened if they go with the current business models of other MMORPG games
With the time dependent skill system and vulnerable ingame player assets, i.e. ships, et.al. its pretty hard to replicate what EA has done with the Battlefield MMO. But then MMOs who is dependent on Microtransactions as source of income are Free to Play, CCP on the otherhand are planning on doing both, Pay to Play and Microtransactions on Eve, unless of course if they'll deny for good that non-vanity items will never be introduced into NeX.
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Minsc
Gallente
Alpha Empire
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:42:00 -
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short summary from SHC:
Quote:
Erm... in short I'd say a few key points are
"The game will never become P2W"
"Both Fearless and Hilmar's e-mail have been taken out of context and mixed up even though they deal with essentially two seperate issues"
"The CSM is being brought in to help define what the players want/don't want out of MT's in EVE and we'll make further statements after that"
"I don't think too many people will quit due to this" (clearly implying that he thinks the players will not be dissatisfied with the outcome of the CSM meeting - not not that they aren't dissatisfied now)
Let's not fire up the pitchforks and torches just yet.
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Evalon Fury
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:43:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Minsc
short summary from SHC:
Quote:
Erm... in short I'd say a few key points are
"The game will never become P2W"
"Both Fearless and Hilmar's e-mail have been taken out of context and mixed up even though they deal with essentially two seperate issues"
"The CSM is being brought in to help define what the players want/don't want out of MT's in EVE and we'll make further statements after that"
"I don't think too many people will quit due to this" (clearly implying that he thinks the players will not be dissatisfied with the outcome of the CSM meeting - not not that they aren't dissatisfied now)
Let's not fire up the pitchforks and torches just yet.
Why not?
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Kumq uat
Gallente
Guiding Hand Social Club
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:44:00 -
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Time to burn Jita again boys! MAN THE LASERS!
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Minsc
Gallente
Alpha Empire
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:46:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Evalon Fury
Originally by: Minsc
short summary from SHC:
Quote:
Erm... in short I'd say a few key points are
"The game will never become P2W"
"Both Fearless and Hilmar's e-mail have been taken out of context and mixed up even though they deal with essentially two seperate issues"
"The CSM is being brought in to help define what the players want/don't want out of MT's in EVE and we'll make further statements after that"
"I don't think too many people will quit due to this" (clearly implying that he thinks the players will not be dissatisfied with the outcome of the CSM meeting - not not that they aren't dissatisfied now)
Let's not fire up the pitchforks and torches just yet.
Why not?
Because a terrible babelfish translation is not an accurate piece of info to go on. Believe me if the CSM comes back with anything less than "No game-effecting MT's ever" I'm right at the front of the line for the lynch mob.
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Doctor Garamond Trebuchet
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:46:00 -
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Can someone in icelandic say
"Please resign, you seem incapable of understanding why everyone is mad, the playerbase loves what they have created more than what ccp has created. You only poured the foundation, the players built the house."
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Minsc
Because a terrible babelfish translation is not an accurate piece of info to go on. Believe me if the CSM comes back with anything less than "No game-effecting MT's ever" I'm right at the front of the line for the lynch mob.
There's still that they can openly declare not wanting to talk to us for a week but give interviews to newspapers.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Talsha Talamar
If you do not see the problem, then I am at a loss here. ... So CCP sees the need to talk to one of their most relevant national media, while refusing to talk to its playerbase about the same subject ?
I see the problem, but MBL isn't exactly PC Gamer, BBC, or EVE Online forums. In fact, subscription rates for MBL dropped drastically when the former Icelandic PM Geir Haarde took over as editor-in-chief.
So when it comes to communicating to the customers what the new strategy is going to be based on the CSM meeting, this article is not relevant at all. It's just a simple piece for the business section of MBL. One, I would add, probably doesn't get read much by those outside the Icelandic Independence Party (but then we get into politics).
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Minsc
short summary from SHC:
Quote:
Erm... in short I'd say a few key points are
"The game will never become P2W"
"Both Fearless and Hilmar's e-mail have been taken out of context and mixed up even though they deal with essentially two seperate issues"
"The CSM is being brought in to help define what the players want/don't want out of MT's in EVE and we'll make further statements after that"
"I don't think too many people will quit due to this" (clearly implying that he thinks the players will not be dissatisfied with the outcome of the CSM meeting - not not that they aren't dissatisfied now)
Let's not fire up the pitchforks and torches just yet.
We need a good, hand done, humanbeing translation.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Minsc
short summary from SHC:
Quote:
Erm... in short I'd say a few key points are
"The game will never become P2W"
"Both Fearless and Hilmar's e-mail have been taken out of context and mixed up even though they deal with essentially two seperate issues"
"The CSM is being brought in to help define what the players want/don't want out of MT's in EVE and we'll make further statements after that"
"I don't think too many people will quit due to this" (clearly implying that he thinks the players will not be dissatisfied with the outcome of the CSM meeting - not not that they aren't dissatisfied now)
Let's not fire up the pitchforks and torches just yet.
You completely missed the other point in there... reread the article and their justification on pricing
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Saving Face
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
I see the problem, but MBL isn't exactly PC Gamer, BBC, or EVE Online forums. In fact, subscription rates for MBL dropped drastically when the former Icelandic PM Geir Haarde took over as editor-in-chief.
That just makes it worse. It means they will talk to anyone, just not their customers.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
Originally by: Talsha Talamar
If you do not see the problem, then I am at a loss here. ... So CCP sees the need to talk to one of their most relevant national media, while refusing to talk to its playerbase about the same subject ?
I see the problem, but MBL isn't exactly PC Gamer, BBC, or EVE Online forums. In fact, subscription rates for MBL dropped drastically when the former Icelandic PM Geir Haarde took over as editor-in-chief.
So when it comes to communicating to the customers what the new strategy is going to be based on the CSM meeting, this article is not relevant at all. It's just a simple piece for the business section of MBL. One, I would add, probably doesn't get read much by those outside the Icelandic Independence Party (but then we get into politics).
Damn, someone leaked the internal newspaper.
This is totally out of context and CLEARLY proves the point that CCP does not have any plans for "gold ammo". 
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Macon Squaredealer
Squaredeal Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:56:00 -
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They are playing semantic games. They have indicated that they want to go beyond vanity items and sell in game advantage while at the same time saying that what they're selling isn't P2W or some sort of "I win" button. They want it both ways instead of admitting itÆs either non-game impacting vanity junk (such as clothing) or it is game impacting. It's only kinda sorta game impacting so therefore it's okay - right?
As for the actual post I'm amazed they can't even shut their own mouths until after the CSM gets there. Not a smart move - unless they just don't care what we think...
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