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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:30:00 - [1] From the beginning: Being a solo PvEr, I have found myself abandoned by CCP in matters of additional new content. Epic Arcs were fun, but that was two years ago. Adn can't tell when as the last time some additional misions were added. Thus, I have been looking at Incarna as a mean to get something else to do beyond grinding missions. With growing dismay, I've been learning that Incarna is called to become some silly drug dealing microgame, which is useless to a mission runner (never used a booster nor had a reason to). So as a solo PvEr, I can pretty much f*ck myself about Incarna's lack of features, apparently. Then, it came CQ and I thought I was getting a new toy: Space Barbies, i.e., play to finding the appropiate clothing to my toons -three females, each with her own RP background and backstory. Expensive but fun, I thought; maybe I should use a whole PLEX to dress a single toon! But that looked a good sacrifice. But alas, now CCP just had a different plan; they are selling the clothes at a ludicrous high prices and each toon now requires several PLEXes to be dressed. I hoped this would be adressed by the CSM, but apparently all they planend to get was an agreement that cheaper crap, not the fine things available at Sisi, will come someday in the bloody future. So here I am. No Barbies in Space as I will not spend three or four bloody months grinding for some clothes which may provide me, being optimistic, 30 minutes worth of fun. What should I do? PvP and steal them from someone else? RMT and get all the ISK I want for them? Get a Bot and print my own money and go out in a spending galore before they catch me? Hope that sometime Loyalty Points (which I don't use) can be traded for Aurums? Or just leave the game whenever I grow tired of being put aside by CCP? (Be noted: I can spend all the money I wish in this game. Could buy the whole NEx a few times at least if I felt like it. But I will not pay for playing, then keep paying for having some little extra fun with virtual clothes as expensive as real ones). That's it, whining download complete.
Khamelean	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:34:00 - [2] The price people pay for something has very little to do with how much it costs to make and all to do with how much people are willing to pay for it. That being said, cheaper items are coming.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:34:00 - [3] Last time I checked, you're not REQUIRED to spend a single ISK nor AUR to "have your toon dressed". And the "free clothing" is not exactly orange prison garb (like another game I know), neither is it visually as appealing as a potato sack. So what exactly are you complaining about again ? Yes, they have introduced most of the more expensive items at first. But you're not SUPPOSED to use RL cash to buy them, you're supposed to use ISK to buy PLEX to smash into AUR to buy them. More clothing of much lower price tiers will eventually be introduced. And that is a "pricing strategy". _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:37:00 - [4] Originally by: Akita T Last time I checked, you're not REQUIRED to spend a single ISK nor AUR to "have your toon dressed"... You must be the WORST CONSUMER EVER! Shame on you for undermining capitalism and spreading your vile lies about choice!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida You must be the WORST CONSUMER EVER! Shame on you for undermining capitalism and spreading your vile lies about choice! Yes, I've been told occasionally that I'm the archetype of a marketing department's worst nightmares _ Make ISK\|\|Build\|\|React\|\|1k papercuts
Rainer Unsinn	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:38:00 - [6] What annoys me however is that even if I never pay a single dime for these vanity items, someone had to shell out $15 per PLEX and that CCP aparently feels entitled to charge that much for a purely virtual item that looks as if it was cobbled together in 15 minutes. I could afford to buy that stuff easily, but it appears to have a "I'm stupid" logo attached to the back.
Tranitikas	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:39:00 - [7] Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai From the beginning: Being a solo PvEr This is not a PVE game, christ.
Nick Bete Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:40:00 - [8] Don't like it, ignore it. Simple. It's not mandatory to buy stuff from the NeX store. Can we have the next whine please?
CCCP Supersmug	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:40:00 - [9] Just don't buy anything. CCP has no clue how to price items and if they wanna run a failshop it's up to them.
Terrante	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Rainer Unsinn What annoys me however is that even if I never pay a single dime for these vanity items, someone had to shell out $15 per PLEX and that CCP aparently feels entitled to charge that much for a purely virtual item that looks as if it was cobbled together in 15 minutes. I could afford to buy that stuff easily, but it appears to have a "I'm stupid" logo attached to the back. With a name like that you should wear a t-shirt with that logo.
Amber Villaneous	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:41:00 - [11] Edited by: Amber Villaneous on 02/07/2011 21:41:09 I was here for spaceships not space barbies so it does not effect me at all, I say was because I am not resubbing.
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:44:00 - [12] It costs a lot so it will become an "elite item" for players to have, as supposed to something cheap enough for everybody to purchase. Should they have rolled out more products at more pricepoints? Hell yes. Does the pricing strategy make sense? Hell yes. Don't like what it costs, don't buy it. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
CCCP Supersmug	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:50:00 - [13] Originally by: Patient 2428190 It costs a lot so it will become an "elite item" for players to have, as supposed to something cheap enough for everybody to purchase. Should they have rolled out more products at more pricepoints? Hell yes. Does the pricing strategy make sense? Hell yes. Don't like what it costs, don't buy it. No it doesn't make any sense. DLC items that anyone can buy at anytime for just a billion isk aren't elite. Is a dread or carrier elite? No. This is CCP not understanding how a DLC store should work. There are going to be cheaper items? Have you even looks at what's in the store now? It's all generic monotone blah. What are cheaper items going to be? Potato sacks?
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:55:00 - [14] Originally by: CCCP Supersmug Originally by: Patient 2428190 It costs a lot so it will become an "elite item" for players to have, as supposed to something cheap enough for everybody to purchase. Should they have rolled out more products at more pricepoints? Hell yes. Does the pricing strategy make sense? Hell yes. Don't like what it costs, don't buy it. No it doesn't make any sense. DLC items that anyone can buy at anytime for just a billion isk aren't elite. Is a dread or carrier elite? No. This is CCP not understanding how a DLC store should work. There are going to be cheaper items? Have you even looks at what's in the store now? It's all generic monotone blah. What are cheaper items going to be? Potato sacks? Its expensive because the theory goes if it costs a lot, it allows you to bond with it. Same thing with brand name merchandise. You can't troll the forums because you are a "superior non-peasant" with a monocle that only costs 1100 Aurum. ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.
Speaker4 theDead Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:57:00 - [15] An elite Item? Space pixels are elite? That is halarious. Current Subscription6 Months Account Expires09 August 2011 (in 38 days)
CCCP Supersmug	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:01:00 - [16] Originally by: Patient 2428190 Originally by: CCCP Supersmug Originally by: Patient 2428190 It costs a lot so it will become an "elite item" for players to have, as supposed to something cheap enough for everybody to purchase. Should they have rolled out more products at more pricepoints? Hell yes. Does the pricing strategy make sense? Hell yes. Don't like what it costs, don't buy it. No it doesn't make any sense. DLC items that anyone can buy at anytime for just a billion isk aren't elite. Is a dread or carrier elite? No. This is CCP not understanding how a DLC store should work. There are going to be cheaper items? Have you even looks at what's in the store now? It's all generic monotone blah. What are cheaper items going to be? Potato sacks? Its expensive because the theory goes if it costs a lot, it allows you to bond with it. Same thing with brand name merchandise. You can't troll the forums because you are a "superior non-peasant" with a monocle that only costs 1100 Aurum. 1000 dollar jeans are better right?
DeODokktor Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Originally by: Akita T Last time I checked, you're not REQUIRED to spend a single ISK nor AUR to "have your toon dressed"... You must be the WORST CONSUMER EVER! Shame on you for undermining capitalism and spreading your vile lies about choice! These schemes are not for the majority to purchase. Generally they know that a large % of us will not buy at any price (I dont feel like kitting out like 18+ players). They know that there's a subset that will buy, there's a subset that will buy at any price, and there's a subset that they can tease into buying when the conditions are correct. The worst consumers are still adding to the numbers of the game and making it more popular, we make those good consumers feel better about themselves. ----------- Never Forget the joy of finding a main to link to a scammer alt. N-y-p-h-u-r ! !
Dorian Wylde	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai From the beginning: Being a solo PvEr, I have found myself abandoned by CCP in matters of additional new content. Epic Arcs were fun, but that was two years ago. Adn can't tell when as the last time some additional misions were added. Epic arcs and streamlining the system so that not only do you not need to work out a dozen different agencies, but you don't need to run stuff in crowded hubs either, is pretty good for updates. Also: what exactly do you expect them to do for new missions? The best you could get is a new deadspace pocket with slightly redesigned objects, with the exact same ships you're already fought a million times. I dare you to try and come up with something that is actually innovative that has not been done yet in EVE. Since you can't do it, you're just a fool for expecting CCP to be able to. Quests and missions in all MMO's are the same, because there is literally nothing else that can be done. It's always going to be 'go here and kill X' or 'fetch me that book' because that's all you can do in a static system. It's so pathetic to constantly see people who don;t understand that everything in this game has to be programmed in, which takes a lot of time, and a lot of drive space. Deal with it. There's a reason nearly all games are leaning heavily towards pvp now. Which, in case you hadn't noticed, is what eve is all about.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:12:00 - [19] yes if they were smart it would be 20$ for a full outfit, pants shirt, gloves, whatever. but ti's not, and honestly while I think it's a dumb way to try to make money I don't think it will I don't care as long as it stays vanity only.
Uuali	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:49:00 - [20] Edited by: Uuali on 02/07/2011 22:49:53 The stuff on the NEX right now is not THAT thrilling. What would cheaper clothing look like I wonder? It might not be prison garb but the whole point, many thought, was the fun of dressing a toon to walk around in a station. It's an RP thing. Power players could care less. But this is alienating the RPer types. It's no fun to grind or pay a load of real money to hop around on a game character in a station pimping your look. There are other ways CCP could milk our money and we feel obliged rather than ripped off.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.07.03 07:45:00 - [21] What also bothers me is that those rtrds at CCP are telling me I am not good enough to play their game. You see, they talked about 1,000 $ jeans. I have some news for you CCP fcktrds: I could buy them in real life. I could buy them for spring, summer, fall and winter seasons, if I felt like. And also could buy 600 $ blouses and 900 $ shoes, if I felt like. Of course I don't do that because I don't enjoy pimping myself in real life. Last year, maths say, I spent more in charities than dressing myself (won't number how many accounts could I had paid for with the same money). Priorities and the such. But, I thought that pimping my toons in EVE would be fun. More gameplay, you know, for my suscription. More bang per buck. Now those rtrds tell me I don't earn enough money ingame to afford that gameplay, and so are forcing me either to take whatever useless cheapo crap they eventually put in the store (be noted: logo T-shirts are not what I have in mind for my toons), or just dismiss them as a source for pimping. Shall I spend 20$ to get a skirt at CCP's store, or spend them to get 2 billion iskies elsewhere & buy what I want from the market? Ans what is worse is that I counted on Meissa Anunthiel to bring these concerns to the meeting, and all he and the CSM brought back was the undetermined promise thaa cheapo crap would come some day in the future (Soon TM?), but the clothes I already have chosen from Sisi will be kept out of my touch as everybody is happy now and CCP won't reimburse those who already bought that real-life expensive stuff. The final point is that ironically CCP has put prices affordable to those who get a lot of money in lowsec and don't give a rat's ass of the whole Incarna and CQ crap, whereas people who had expectations for this stuff are being set aside as "worthless peasants" who can't get enough money to get what they want. Or worst, they are being told that black market and RMT are the only way to get what they want at the price they want. Because in real life, for each 1,000 $ jeans, there's also the 20 $ "replica", and guess which of them makes more money at the end of the day...
RougeOperator	Posted - 2011.07.03 07:49:00 - [22] Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai From the beginning: Being a solo PvEr, I have found myself abandoned by CCP in matters of additional new content. Epic Arcs were fun, but that was two years ago. Adn can't tell when as the last time some additional misions were added. Thus, I have been looking at Incarna as a mean to get something else to do beyond grinding missions. With growing dismay, I've been learning that Incarna is called to become some silly drug dealing microgame, which is useless to a mission runner (never used a booster nor had a reason to). So as a solo PvEr, I can pretty much f*ck myself about Incarna's lack of features, apparently. Then, it came CQ and I thought I was getting a new toy: Space Barbies, i.e., play to finding the appropiate clothing to my toons -three females, each with her own RP background and backstory. Expensive but fun, I thought; maybe I should use a whole PLEX to dress a single toon! But that looked a good sacrifice. But alas, now CCP just had a different plan; they are selling the clothes at a ludicrous high prices and each toon now requires several PLEXes to be dressed. I hoped this would be adressed by the CSM, but apparently all they planend to get was an agreement that cheaper crap, not the fine things available at Sisi, will come someday in the bloody future. So here I am. No Barbies in Space as I will not spend three or four bloody months grinding for some clothes which may provide me, being optimistic, 30 minutes worth of fun. What should I do? PvP and steal them from someone else? RMT and get all the ISK I want for them? Get a Bot and print my own money and go out in a spending galore before they catch me? Hope that sometime Loyalty Points (which I don't use) can be traded for Aurums? Or just leave the game whenever I grow tired of being put aside by CCP? (Be noted: I can spend all the money I wish in this game. Could buy the whole NEx a few times at least if I felt like it. But I will not pay for playing, then keep paying for having some little extra fun with virtual clothes as expensive as real ones). That's it, whining download complete. Look up Icelandic banking collapse. They just dont know how to handle money.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.07.03 07:56:00 - [23] Originally by: RougeOperator Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai From the beginning: Being a solo PvEr, I have found myself abandoned by CCP in matters of additional new content. Epic Arcs were fun, but that was two years ago. Adn can't tell when as the last time some additional misions were added. Thus, I have been looking at Incarna as a mean to get something else to do beyond grinding missions. With growing dismay, I've been learning that Incarna is called to become some silly drug dealing microgame, which is useless to a mission runner (never used a booster nor had a reason to). So as a solo PvEr, I can pretty much f*ck myself about Incarna's lack of features, apparently. Then, it came CQ and I thought I was getting a new toy: Space Barbies, i.e., play to finding the appropiate clothing to my toons -three females, each with her own RP background and backstory. Expensive but fun, I thought; maybe I should use a whole PLEX to dress a single toon! But that looked a good sacrifice. But alas, now CCP just had a different plan; they are selling the clothes at a ludicrous high prices and each toon now requires several PLEXes to be dressed. I hoped this would be adressed by the CSM, but apparently all they planend to get was an agreement that cheaper crap, not the fine things available at Sisi, will come someday in the bloody future. So here I am. No Barbies in Space as I will not spend three or four bloody months grinding for some clothes which may provide me, being optimistic, 30 minutes worth of fun. What should I do? PvP and steal them from someone else? RMT and get all the ISK I want for them? Get a Bot and print my own money and go out in a spending galore before they catch me? Hope that sometime Loyalty Points (which I don't use) can be traded for Aurums? Or just leave the game whenever I grow tired of being put aside by CCP? (Be noted: I can spend all the money I wish in this game. Could buy the whole NEx a few times at least if I felt like it. But I will not pay for playing, then keep paying for having some little extra fun with virtual clothes as expensive as real ones). That's it, whining download complete. Look up Icelandic banking collapse. They just dont know how to handle money. Yay, and one of the "masters of the universe" involved in the Iceland banking fiasco owes 30% of CCP's shares...
RougeOperator	Posted - 2011.07.03 08:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Originally by: RougeOperator Look up Icelandic banking collapse. They just dont know how to handle money. Yay, and one of the "masters of the universe" involved in the Iceland banking fiasco owes 30% of CCP's shares... Yeah totally nothing to worry about right......
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.07.03 19:34:00 - [25] Originally by: RougeOperator Originally by: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Originally by: RougeOperator Look up Icelandic banking collapse. They just dont know how to handle money. Yay, and one of the "masters of the universe" involved in the Iceland banking fiasco owes 30% of CCP's shares... Yeah totally nothing to worry about right...... Virtual clothing as expensive as real clothing, what could possibly go wrong?
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.03 20:07:00 - [26] While I understand the economic reasoning behind it (both in game and in real life), I'm not a fan of the high prices either. However, I will reserve judgement until a fuller selection is on the market to choose from. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.07.03 20:28:00 - [27] Originally by: Ranger 1 While I understand the economic reasoning behind it (both in game and in real life), I'm not a fan of the high prices either. However, I will reserve judgement until a fuller selection is on the market to choose from. So far, 4 out of 6 items I had chosen from Sisi are in the "ludicrously expensive" list. And I see no reason why anything on Sisi should be any cheaper than what is in the game now. Unless they completely mess it and make the "cheap" stuff look better than the "expensive" stuff, there will be not much hope. On the brighter side, PLEX are so devaluated now that cashing them for Aurums may be a good idea, whatever happens to NEx prices...
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Emminent Terraforming O.G.-Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.03 20:55:00 - [28] prices will stay high as long as people are willing to pay. just look at Designer clothing in reality. Idiots will pay 100+ USD for a pair of jeans that is no better than the ones at Kohls just because they have some designer's name on them.
Cunane Jeran Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.03 20:56:00 - [29] I brought the Gallente shirt from the Eve store last week before Incarna hit. Believe I made the right choice, as I can actually wear this $20 shirt. Now a massively overpriced ISK shirt, thats fine.
San Severina Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.03 21:17:00 - [30] No it's called we're thieving c * n ts & we will rip off gullible players no problem

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