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cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.07.08 17:46:00 - [1] as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s)
7Boy Curry Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 17:58:00 - [2] Even if they did keep their word once, it would not absolve all the obvious past failures...

CCP Soundwave C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:22:00 - [3] Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon.

Albetta Gallente Construction Cabal Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:27:00 - [4] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. Glad to know that CCP still remembers the protests. I had this image of you all drinking brandy and smoking cigars saying "What protest?"
Proats Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:33:00 - [5] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. Cool, thanks for the update.
Tammarr	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:33:00 - [6] ccp working on spaceships and not gurista brand bunnies suit? man, where do i go to protest that ccp seem to have forgotten they are not supposed to do internet spaceship pixels just barbies in space. or wait, is this some sort of assembly line thing, one line works on one part, another on something else and then it all comes togheter piece by piece into a glorious new eden?

CCP Soundwave C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Albetta Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. Glad to know that CCP still remembers the protests. I had this image of you all drinking brandy and smoking cigars saying "What protest?" Nope, not at all. The 0.0 stuff is pretty important, and I'd prefer the discussion to be centered around that, so we'll hold back on it until we feel we can get more focus on it. But it's still coming, and we're still working on it :)

ShadowandLight Amarr Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:40:00 - [8] Bravo Soundwave, smart move
Raid'En	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:48:00 - [9] so you'll also wait to release the may minutes ?

CCP Soundwave C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Raid'En so you'll also wait to release the may minutes ? No idea when they're going out, I don't actually have anything to do with the organization of the CSM. I did see the minutes today though, so I'm hoping they'll come out soon.


Liva Daril Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:52:00 - [11] Originally by: CCP Soundwave The 0.0 stuff is pretty important, and I'd prefer the discussion to be centered around that, Believe me, finally hearing some stuff dealing with actual effin¦ gameplay would be main topic ASAP. By now I¦m so fed up with all this useless NEX and Incarna crap. I¦m pretty sure others are too.
Syekuda Hell's Revenge	Posted - 2011.07.08 18:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Liva Daril Originally by: CCP Soundwave The 0.0 stuff is pretty important, and I'd prefer the discussion to be centered around that, Believe me, finally hearing some stuff dealing with actual effin¦ gameplay would be main topic ASAP. By now I¦m so fed up with all this useless NEX and Incarna crap. I¦m pretty sure others are too. THAT ^ Please release some eve-online spaceship content. The faster we go on something else the better it is. It's been a hell of a week for CCP and all of us. PLEASE,release some info on gameplay and content ASAP
Monstress	Posted - 2011.07.08 19:06:00 - [13] What? New updates to 0.0 in my EVE? No way! Thanks for the communication, Soundwave
K'iran	Posted - 2011.07.08 19:11:00 - [14] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. The "drama" comes partly from the whole incarna/MT thing and partly because of the fact that important game features have been left to rot for quite while and we're fed up with it, 0.0/SOV being one of them. I'm sure you understand that part, so I don't see why you would wait on purpose.
Syekuda Hell's Revenge	Posted - 2011.07.08 19:23:00 - [15] Originally by: Liva Daril Originally by: CCP Soundwave The 0.0 stuff is pretty important, and I'd prefer the discussion to be centered around that, Believe me, finally hearing some stuff dealing with actual effin¦ gameplay would be main topic ASAP. By now I¦m so fed up with all this useless NEX and Incarna crap. I¦m pretty sure others are too. THAT ^ Please release some eve-online spaceship content. The faster we go on something else the better it is. It's been a hell of a week for CCP and all of us. PLEASE,release some info on gameplay and content ASAP
Hentes Zsemle	Posted - 2011.07.08 19:29:00 - [16] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. So it is our fault now that you can't deliver? Also the faction warfare thread is waiting for your reply for 2 months, while this one is a few hours old.
Ingvar Angst Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United	Posted - 2011.07.08 19:32:00 - [17] Does this encompass w-space in any way, shape or form or is it strictly regarding moon-goo 0.0?
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.08 19:56:00 - [18] Will the blog be titled "Death to all supercaps!"?
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.07.08 20:19:00 - [19] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Nope, not at all. The 0.0 stuff is pretty important, and I'd prefer the discussion to be centered around that, so we'll hold back on it until we feel we can get more focus on it. But it's still coming, and we're still working on it :) sorry ccp soundwave but I think your wrong to hold it back any more sure you'll still get some going over the mt stuff but you'll give us something to talk about ,i'm hoping, in a positive light or more pitch folks at dawn, -but it will be better the the mt rehash every day. lets face it right now you got nothing to loss, unless your planning to screw over the players that live in low end null sec I.e. take more isk making away from the 0.0 to -0.5 systems so come on put it on the table for us to see
Jack Tronic	Posted - 2011.07.08 20:42:00 - [20] GIVE US THE DEV BLOG. Seriously, majority of the people not posting like whiny babies(the ELITE PROTESTERS) would enjoy it, and probably post.

I'thari Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 20:48:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. Riiiight.... So, talking about barbie-dressing everyone is so upset about is the right way to calm everyone down? What you really need, is not showing your new moneygrabbing ideas telling how "cool" and "innovative" they are, but that you care about game future by fixing stuff you keep in your rubbish bin... I mean backlog.
Clavian Voi	Posted - 2011.07.08 20:53:00 - [22] Edited by: Clavian Voi on 08/07/2011 20:54:25 Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. I truly hope this is going to go far beyond a few "tweaks" as the whole concept of empire building as it is currently implemented in 0.0 needs to be thrown out and re-done from scratch. Seriously. In its current form it's nothing but capture the flag with a bunch of convoluted timers thrown in just to ensure absolutely nothing of consequence can happen without massive blobbing. Way too predictable. And when it comes to game design, predictable = boring. EVE needs a whole new concept when it comes to 0.0 because empire building ought to be about a lot more than capturing a flag. Mittani is right about one thing when he states there really is only one viable way to run a serious 0.0 alliance at present: a dictatorship with an aggressive NBSI policy. But that's not how it should be. EVE is supposed to be a sandbox and 0.0 ought to be a wild, dangerous, but very diverse place. But it isn't. In fact, in some ways it's the least dynamic segment of all New Eden. CCP needs to get 0.0 "right" and in its current form it's very, very wrong. Please CCP, take your time with this. Solicit more feedback from the players and re-think 0.0 because a few tweaks here and there are not going to cure what ails null-sec. The problems are much deeper than that and EVE could be so much more than it is.
Black Dranzer Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.08 20:57:00 - [23] Given that one of the major gripes of the community was that CCP was neglecting actual stuff that mattered, talking about future 0.0 updates and tweaks would be a GOOD thing.
JitaBUGz TheGreat Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:00:00 - [24] Originally by: Jack Tronic GIVE US THE DEV BLOG. Seriously, majority of the people not posting like whiny babies(the ELITE PROTESTERS) would enjoy it, and probably post. Have to agree. Most if not all of the ppl this topic would effect had nothing to due with the protests. O.O pilots would rather shot each other then a statue. CCP do not use these whiners as a excuse not to get us the information we would like to see.
Shepard Book	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:02:00 - [25] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: Raid'En so you'll also wait to release the may minutes ? No idea when they're going out, I don't actually have anything to do with the organization of the CSM. I did see the minutes today though, so I'm hoping they'll come out soon. I know many are looking forward to a peak at the May notes and 0.0 tweaks. I cannot make up my mind which I wanna see more. It would also be nice to hear about any ship types being worked on. Thanks for the communication SW.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:15:00 - [26] Edited by: Kalle Demos on 08/07/2011 21:22:31 3 major issues about 0.0 which SHOULD be addressed if they arent, this will truly be a dominion mk II 1. Sov warfare focuses on a **ty dildo, a dildo which attracts blobs, blobs who just have to sit there all day to win, which results in boredom, blobbing and snoozefests. 2. Dreads NEED a buff and a purpose that will make them useful in 0.0 BUT not OP in WHs, supercarriers are only heavily used because sov warfare allows you to sit in one spot shooting a structure. 3. Station purposes, atm these stations are there to make it harder for the enemy to claim them, take NC / IT as an example, despite being dead it took months to remove them off the map BECAUSE these timers were **ed as hell, it shouldnt take 4 months to kill an alliance that is already dead. Stuff that people WILL want changing but should remain the same. 1. Moon Goo - Firstly if sov warfare was quick, 'fun' and wasnt always focused on a single structure, people would happily fight over land. Secondly 0.0 SHOULDN'T be equal, life isnt fair and quite honestly it gives a purpose to invade / hate if things arent equal. Thirdly if sov warfare wasnt heavily focused on numbers / supercaps, more people would be involved and more people would fight over these moons. 2. Supercarriers - Personally supercarriers are ONLY effective because the sov mechanics are so ** and dont require movement, do you really think people would use supercarriers like they do if sov warfare required you to move from one system to another several times an hour? All in all, just think of why things are as they are, also I would ignore anything that comes out of the NC CSM mouths, they have made it obvious from the start that they will approve of anything that allows them to blob, RMT and remain where they are.
Belt Humper	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:18:00 - [27] 0.0 gets attention all the time. When the hell is low sec going to get thrown a bone?
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:22:00 - [28] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. Hellcity says hi.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:26:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: Raid'En so you'll also wait to release the may minutes ? No idea when they're going out, I don't actually have anything to do with the organization of the CSM. I did see the minutes today though, so I'm hoping they'll come out soon. Funny how the good stuff doesnt get leaked but a crappy newsletter does
Jack Tronic	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Kalle Demos [ 2. Supercarriers - Personally supercarriers are ONLY effective because the sov mechanics are so ** and dont require movement, do you really think people would use supercarriers like they do if sov warfare required you to move from one system to another several times an hour? Being able to drop a super with 2 carriers on any large gang and being ** to effectively solo them all because you can outdps 20 logis and hictors can't be repped while tackling.

Valei Khurelem	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:33:00 - [31] Please please please do something about blob and gank fleets.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:41:00 - [32] Edited by: Kalle Demos on 08/07/2011 21:41:26 Originally by: Jack Tronic Originally by: Kalle Demos [ 2. Supercarriers - Personally supercarriers are ONLY effective because the sov mechanics are so ** and dont require movement, do you really think people would use supercarriers like they do if sov warfare required you to move from one system to another several times an hour? Being able to drop a super with 2 carriers on any large gang and being ** to effectively solo them all because you can outdps 20 logis and hictors can't be repped while tackling. Are you trying to tell me you lost a large fleet where your logi count alone was 20+ to 3 ships?
Lando Storm Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:41:00 - [33] Originally by: Valei Khurelem Please please please do something about blob and gank fleets. Just a Question What exactly could they do with out effecting other parts of fleet warfare ? (Serious question)
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:45:00 - [34] how many times have they tweaked 0.0 in the last few years? how many times have they **ed 0.0 over the last few years? the answers to both of these are the same... although at this point they couldnt ** it up much more than now?? could they
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:49:00 - [35] Originally by: Smoking Blunts how many times have they tweaked 0.0 in the last few years? how many times have they **ed 0.0 over the last few years? the answers to both of these are the same... although at this point they couldnt it up much more than now?? could they this is why I posted this call out to make sure we have time to call bull** when we see it and so ccp has time to go back to the table and change stuff or at lest tell us why
Cancel Align NOW	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Smoking Blunts how many times have they tweaked 0.0 in the last few years? how many times have they **ed 0.0 over the last few years? the answers to both of these are the same... although at this point they couldnt ** it up much more than now?? could they Yes they could. Looking at history they will somehow find a way.
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:53:00 - [37] tbh, at this point id be happy if they just rolled it back to before the scap buff and all the sov upgrade ****. paying for crap space..lol they must have been smoking crack when they came up with that
Chris Fierce Caldari NoD Imperium	Posted - 2011.07.08 21:56:00 - [38] How about we get some answers to this Soundwave? Hmm? Maybe? Like we have been told? http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1489084&page=15
Daminma	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:01:00 - [39] Originally by: Valei Khurelem Please please please do something about blob and gank fleets. They already did with this whole NEX scandal. Less people to blob now. Rejoice!
needarunner	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:27:00 - [40] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. By calmer, he means a server in decline to a point where all the people who give a crap have already left. Shame after the most anticipated patch in , your server fell by nearly 6000 per day

Murashu Liberal Frontier Enterprises BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:35:00 - [41] Edited by: Murashu on 08/07/2011 23:36:18 Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. So those of us who actually enjoy EVE and plan to continue paying to play cannot get our info delivered because of a small vocal group of whiners? That doesn't really sound like CCP is working on improving their information sharing with the community.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:46:00 - [42] I too am interested in hearing confirmation of developments in INTERNET SPACESHIPS.
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.07.09 02:22:00 - [43] Everyone we must tell all the trolls to calm down and take a break. Lets all sit back take a breather, and let all the dev blogs come out. I left 0.0 cause of blobs, politics and other crap, maybe this will be the one that gets me back t wanting to do 0.0
Jackson Millenius	Posted - 2011.07.09 02:44:00 - [44] I read the leaked devblog. Apparantly they're turning Sov warfare into capture the flag. The TCU's n stations n stuff have about the same EHP as a Titan. Whoever takes the TCU down, and then sets their own up within 30 minutes, wins sov.
Uearel Atram	Posted - 2011.07.09 02:59:00 - [45] Edited by: Uearel Atram on 09/07/2011 03:02:28 "Blobs" are fine, there isn't much lag these days, with fights of 800 people at least. What do you want them do to, set arbitrary limits on number of people in system? The real problem is supercap blobs, since they can only be countered by larger supercap blobs and not strategy or tactics. http://imgur.com/a/dQUFc#ssATa in that fight, on just one side, there were; -47 titans -116 supercarriers -around 150 carriers -40 dreads
Omara Otawan	Posted - 2011.07.09 03:04:00 - [46] Originally by: Kalle Demos Will the blog be titled "Death to all supercaps!"? Well you'd hope so, otherwise it would be pretty pointless.
Ai Mei Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2011.07.09 05:13:00 - [47] Bumping because we need to kill forum rage.
Uglavitch Nefrex Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.07.09 06:01:00 - [48] Grow a spine and post it!
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.09 07:23:00 - [49] Originally by: Uearel Atram Edited by: Uearel Atram on 09/07/2011 03:09:39 "Blobs" are fine, there isn't much lag these days, with fights of 800 people at least. What do you want them do to, set arbitrary limits on number of people in system? What I think they should do is make an activity based sov system, or something similar (actually live there to get sov, not just winning a few blob fests at some timers and going home again). The result of any good sov system would be simply that if you are twice as strong you can hold onto twice as much space (roughly), while the current situation is that if the difference in strength is enough to overcome the defender advantage of the other side you will take all their space, regardless of how much space you already have.
Vagilicious	Posted - 2011.07.09 08:00:00 - [50] While any update to the spaceship side of things is always good, whinging because CCP have been focusing on Incarna and NeX kinda takes the cake. We've all had several YEARS of spaceship content.. some good and some bad admittedly, but nevertheless lots of it. I for one am happy with the CQ - Incarna route and am really looking forward to it progressing.

Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2011.07.09 08:12:00 - [51] Originally by: Belt Humper 0.0 gets attention all the time. When the hell is low sec going to get thrown a bone? Because after Domnion, you should be apprehensive about where that "bone" would go
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.07.09 08:20:00 - [52] Start the blog with "this is meant to be a discussion and nothing below is carved in stone" Here's what we like: Here's our thoughts: Here's what we've already decided: If you go with this kind of a blog, you'll get people discussing more instead of arguing so much and quite possibly would drown out the drama instead of being drowned.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.07.09 09:28:00 - [53] Originally by: Zagdul Start the blog with "this is meant to be a discussion and nothing below is carved in stone" Here's what we like: Here's our thoughts: Here's what we've already decided: If you go with this kind of a blog, you'll get people discussing more instead of arguing so much and quite possibly would drown out the drama instead of being drowned. Supporting the above. The tone of several recent blogs has been more or less "here it is, deal with it". It would be great to actually get a blog about the development of new features.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.09 10:57:00 - [54] Originally by: Zagdul Start the blog with "this is meant to be a discussion and nothing below is carved in stone" Here's what we like: Here's our thoughts: Here's what we've already decided: If you go with this kind of a blog, you'll get people discussing more instead of arguing so much and quite possibly would drown out the drama instead of being drowned. Agreed, though people tend to complain about everything anyway
Logical Chaos The Ankou Raiden.	Posted - 2011.07.09 12:29:00 - [55] They will now post the info when it's too late to change anything. Of course it will also be utter bull****, but well it's too late isn't it? :D You've heard it here first guys!
Jack BingKaria	Posted - 2011.07.09 12:36:00 - [56] The only reason they hold it back might be rather simple. Instead of tweaking, its mostly a nerf for most people in 0.0
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.09 12:42:00 - [57] Originally by: Jack BingKaria The only reason they hold it back might be rather simple. Instead of tweaking, its mostly a nerf for most people in 0.0 A nerf to most people in 0.0 is a buff to ~~Goons~~ NC
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.07.09 12:43:00 - [58] My quess is that we are now caught in the one devblog a day trap/rule set by the PR Department. Something that Soundwave might also have thought about while answering our questions/ only one good quote a day rule lol. Anything that could be sayed at the moment is most likely in the May Minutes, hope its good news. Not just we are working on that.
Jowen Datloran Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2011.07.09 13:06:00 - [59] Nice, except it is a complete waste of time. No matter what changes you might propose/implement you can bet your sorry ass that people will whine and complain and state that the old system was better or the changes were not good enough. The only changes that are ever acceptable to a zero sec entity are the ones that massively unbalance the game in their favor. Simply, do not bother and use resources on low sec where content is available to everybody and dire needed.
Jackstah Whoosaa DohMinion	Posted - 2011.07.09 13:42:00 - [60] Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 09/07/2011 13:42:31 Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. This sounds quite insulting. Its the drama that YOU created.


CCP Soundwave C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.09 13:57:00 - [61] Originally by: Jackstah Whoosaa Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 09/07/2011 13:42:31 Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. This sounds quite insulting. Its the drama that YOU created. No disagreement there, we certainly did. I was stating that the drama exists, and I don't want the changes to drown in it. If it came off as saying the community made it, then that was not intended

Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.07.09 13:58:00 - [62] TBH, releasing a devblog about things the players actually care about would probably take their minds off the drama faster.
Ein Spiegel Minmatar Fly-by-Night Industries LLC PTY LTD	Posted - 2011.07.09 14:04:00 - [63] Hmm. Soundwave, if you haven't already taken notes from that other thread... The BC sized Heavy Bomber concept (BC hulls that are glass cannons, launching upgraded bombs (or maybe just able to launch 2 bombs together), have stealth, and able to mount x number of capital torpedos with bonuses to make those torpedos actually useful against very large ships, would provide an interesting counter to supercapital blobs. (In much the same way that well run normal stealth bombers can do interesting things to battleship fleets.) Plus, I wouldn't mind seeing a drake that doesn't have an OMGWTF tank that makes people leave them for last. (Or a hurricane.) Could be interesting idea to spice up 0.0 tactics. Also, I'd love to see how Sov is going to be dealt with.
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.07.09 14:10:00 - [64] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: Jackstah Whoosaa Edited by: Jackstah Whoosaa on 09/07/2011 13:42:31 Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. This sounds quite insulting. Its the drama that YOU created. No disagreement there, we certainly did. I was stating that the drama exists, and I don't want the changes to drown in it. If it came off as saying the community made it, then that was not intended can you just post this blog already, really wanna see whats getting **ed over this 0.0 buff. mind im struggling to think of anything thats not already **ed
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.07.09 14:10:00 - [65] Originally by: CCP Soundwave No disagreement there, we certainly did. This sounds like the next best thing to an apology we will ever get. Thank you, I guess.
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.07.09 14:14:00 - [66] Originally by: Albetta Originally by: CCP Soundwave ... Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. Glad to know that CCP still remembers the protests. I had this image of you all drinking brandy and smoking cigars saying "What protest?" Probably a good guess. CCP may be crying poor as a company, but those expenses on their books include employee compensation packages. Top hats. Monocles. The finest crystal brandy snifters. The latest German and Italian super-car models. Who knows how high off of the hog the CCP management team is living these days.
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.09 14:35:00 - [67] The drama has definitely died down. Top 10 bumped threads at this time on first page of General Discussion: 1. Hyrbid balance 2. Unintelligible gibberish 3. Incursion scam warning 4. Internet speed test 5. This thread 6. Giving out free stuff for a funny joke 7. Tom Gerard 8. EVE in 10 years 9. EVE is too PVP focused 10. A thread full of very fashionable posters Time for devblog? Will there be graphs? :3
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.07.09 15:58:00 - [68] Originally by: CCP Soundwave No disagreement there, we certainly did. I was stating that the drama exists, and I don't want the changes to drown in it. If it came off as saying the community made it, then that was not intended as others have posted that has died down now its time to refocus the community, tbh it looks like your using the MT stuff as an excuse to delay us finding out what is going to happen to the game we love. communication isn't that important right now, to mend the community and ccp bonds and rebuild the trust once again I'll request that you publish this blog, lets get the info out there, we may see it the way you do and see it in a good light if not then heck you have a ton of damage control units you can use. when we bring the pitch forks and we may even use the t2 version the Trident.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.07.09 18:44:00 - [69] Come on CCP, we want to hear about spaceships
Obsidian Hawk RONA Legion RONA Directorate	Posted - 2011.07.09 20:59:00 - [70] Give me a reason to want to go to 0.0 again.

Trig Onami Caldari Onami Corporation	Posted - 2011.07.09 21:50:00 - [71] CCP, I would start by answering patient paying customers first with a blog. Impatient paying customers second with a slap on the wrist for being impatient, and never talk to people who are unsubbed(they're extorting you). When someone gots me by the balls I gets the hack saw out. And certainly don't let the drama get to you, don't mention the drama, don't even whisper an ounce that drama delays your schedule. If you don't want something to get lost in a sea of drama, then sticky it, because well.. YOU own the forums, not the spoiled children. Because this **** will never end, guys. CCP should work at their own pace, because rushing will only bring further drama. Dev Protip: The ones that ask how to unsub... Answer those swiftly with very intricate detail. The ones that say good bye... say goodbye to them and tell them that you won't miss them. They've ruined your reputation enough already.

CCP Greyscale	Posted - 2011.07.09 23:34:00 - [72] Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas

Raid'En	Posted - 2011.07.09 23:48:00 - [73] Originally by: CCP Greyscale just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. breaking news : CCP made a new PR mistake >_< hint : just send us a bone to gnaw... like these damn minutes of may summit... at this point even some screens of the others races' CQ would be a plus... just send us something that has nothing to do with the drama (hint : the CSMs can tell you if a subject is dangerous or not)
Mr LaForge	Posted - 2011.07.09 23:50:00 - [74] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas Is Soundwave or someone else on the team not capable of posting the blog?
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.10 01:33:00 - [75] Vacation, eh? Break into his house and steal the devblog! Leave some exotic dancers behind as a treat when he returns
Sentient Blade	Posted - 2011.07.10 01:36:00 - [76] I personally hope this Blog includes the following opening paragraph: "Oh dear God, what were we smoking when we decided to nerf 85% of Null-sec and not give smaller alliances a hope in hell of reaping any benefit except when sitting in a mining barge all day. Policy reversed." That would bring me great happiness.
Taram Caldar Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression	Posted - 2011.07.10 02:57:00 - [77] Originally by: Sentient Blade I personally hope this Blog includes the following opening paragraph: "Oh dear God, what were we smoking when we decided to nerf 85% of Null-sec and not give smaller alliances a hope in hell of reaping any benefit except when sitting in a mining barge all day. Policy reversed." That would bring me great happiness. I don't think it needs to be reversed but making it so that upgraded space even level 5, has no chance in hell of a haven/sanctum in a vast portion of 0.0 went too far. I totally get the idea to make it incremental but the bottom should be 1/1 not 0/0 and work up from there. IMO it should go 1/1 2/2 3/3 4/4 5/5 like that. Makes better space worth more without crippling lower truesec systems entirely.
Helena Russell Makanen	Posted - 2011.07.10 04:19:00 - [78] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas GOOD GOD YET ANOTHER DELAY... DRESS IT UP IN HUMOROUS HAHA AREN'T WE CUTE AND CUDDLY CRAP, YET ANOTHER DELAY DELAY DELAY.... out of the hundreds of employees we wait 3 more WEEKS because someone on vacation? You just got over a huge debacle, promise better - then more of this same delay.
chubbsmcchubbington	Posted - 2011.07.10 06:14:00 - [79] Originally by: Helena Russell Makanen Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas GOOD GOD YET ANOTHER DELAY... DRESS IT UP IN HUMOROUS HAHA AREN'T WE CUTE AND CUDDLY CRAP, YET ANOTHER DELAY DELAY DELAY.... out of the hundreds of employees we wait 3 more WEEKS because someone on vacation? You just got over a huge debacle, promise better - then more of this same delay. HTFU
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.10 06:20:00 - [80] So CCP wants to make more money, they should definatly charge an extra subscription for read access on these forums. I am currently having more fun over here than on the damn game!

Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.07.10 07:22:00 - [81] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas maybe, you coudl have posted the blog, got 3 weeks of feed back and then started the next nerf of 0.0. as this is ment to be the content of the next expansion, you should probibly spend more time on it than you did on that nex store crap
Vicious Cell Amarr Paragon. Nulli Tertius	Posted - 2011.07.10 07:58:00 - [82] Okay, so that was none short of a tease. =/ 3 weeks, QQ.
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.10 11:40:00 - [83] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas So latest 1st August
Yarrrrrhh	Posted - 2011.07.10 11:48:00 - [84] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. So you're not telling us about you fixing spaceships while everyone is angry at you because you're not fixing spaceships? Seriously? And you're expecting the drama to calm down while you're not doing anything to make the community feel better? SERIOUSLY?
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.10 11:53:00 - [85] Originally by: Yarrrrrhh So you're not telling us about you fixing spaceships while everyone is angry at you because you're not fixing spaceships? Seriously? And you're expecting the drama to calm down while you're not doing anything to make the community feel better? SERIOUSLY? The drama has calmed down. It's practically stopped.
Yarrrrrhh	Posted - 2011.07.10 11:54:00 - [86] Edited by: Yarrrrrhh on 10/07/2011 11:54:57 Ohhhhhh brilliant... just read up. Now the ONLY GUY who is responsible for this has the time to post that he's on holiday? Holiday? Right now? For three weeks? When the one thing that could be good for CCP was to actually post something to calm the masses? And there's no one to do the post instead? You've got SIX HUNDRED EMPLOYEES AND THERE'S ONLY ONE OF THEM ABLE TO POST SOMETHING ABOUT NULLSEC BALANCE CHANGES? WHAT THE ****?!
Yarrrrrhh	Posted - 2011.07.10 11:59:00 - [87] Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet The drama has calmed down. It's practically stopped. Not sure what you're talking about. Mr. CCP Greed just basically lied to us again when he said the blog wasn't ready yet because of the drama. Then Mr. CCP Nullsecbalanceguy turns up and says Originally by: CCP Greyscal Haha, screw Soundwave, it's not because of the drama. It's because I can't be assed to release a blog post. I'm busy sipping margeritas. Cya in three weeks while New Eden bleeds subscriptions, suckers. That's pretty much the definition of drama.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.07.10 12:37:00 - [88] i don't see how it was so hard to get the protestors what they wanted.. 1. CCP as company write complicated apology. 2. commit to no non-vanity items 3. return old hanger 4. actually do stuff with Internets spaceships, treat eve like the flagship not a side program
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2011.07.10 14:18:00 - [89] Edited by: Gnulpie on 10/07/2011 14:24:41 Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. While it is understandable that you want a calm playerbase and not posting in the middle of a big uproar, I think the best way to calm down the players is to show that you are still heavily dedicated to the space part of EVE. If you release blog after blog to explain the NeX strategy, MT and stuff like that (those blogs are good, no mistake about that!), the players might get the impression that this is all you are working on now. And that might not calm them down at all. So pretty please, release the new devblog the sooner the better! Edit: Oh, CCP Greyscale, enjoy your holidays! Great to see that you are looking for suggestions and feedback _before_ you set things in stone. This is absolutely the right way to do it!
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature Bloodbound.	Posted - 2011.07.10 17:18:00 - [90] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas thanks for posting while your on holiday, is it possible to get a release date from the bff team so we can look forward to it(I.e. a couple of days after return to work so you can read all the emails you have). I'm happy your going down the we want your feed back route. may I now make one other request add a video blog to it done by ccp soundwave while your away stating in the video why you looked at each change often it is easy to interrupt written word wrong and this hopefully stop that or make it less

Fighter26 Orion's Fist	Posted - 2011.07.10 17:42:00 - [91] Edited by: Fighter26 on 10/07/2011 17:44:06 Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht in the Bahamas. He's on boat... Everybody look at him cause' he standin' on a boat... Take a good hard look at the dev blog... oh wait. Points for fleeing the island on a boat because apparently you cannot handle a games online community. jk have good time and get back quick I want my juicy blogs dammit.
Shepard Book	Posted - 2011.07.10 17:48:00 - [92] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas Thanks for letting us know Greyscale. Have a good vacation.
Professional Retard	Posted - 2011.07.10 17:50:00 - [93] Whats the point in CCP trying to fix 0.0, will just make it worse. You dont take your TV to the shop to get fixed and the security guard does it instead, just cause he saw it was broke on a forum and thinks he knows what hes doing. CCP have slowly been making 0.0 worse, sov changes forced everyone out of 0.0 that didnt have titans and carriers, supercap changes forced out people that didnt have ENOUGH titans and carriers, true sec nerf made 90% of 0.0 derelict and everyone coups up in the one high true sec system with a gazzilion bubbles around the gate and jump bridges are the only way in, making those people nearly untouchable. What next in their attempt to fix 0.0?
Jack BingKaria	Posted - 2011.07.10 18:29:00 - [94] I wonder why these ccp people use the word: dev TEAM, in their portrait. Lets be honest, they dont form a team, one of them goes on holiday and that means immediately no blog....... Seems they are all doing only their own little piece and know nothing about what the others do.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.10 18:59:00 - [95] Originally by: Jack BingKaria I wonder why these ccp people use the word: dev TEAM, in their portrait. Lets be honest, they dont form a team, one of them goes on holiday and that means immediately no blog....... Seems they are all doing only their own little piece and know nothing about what the others do. Do you actively TRY to sound like an idiot, or does it just come natural?
Jack BingKaria	Posted - 2011.07.10 19:12:00 - [96] Edited by: Jack BingKaria on 10/07/2011 19:14:26 Originally by: Nybbas Originally by: Jack BingKaria I wonder why these ccp people use the word: dev TEAM, in their portrait. Lets be honest, they dont form a team, one of them goes on holiday and that means immediately no blog....... Seems they are all doing only their own little piece and know nothing about what the others do. Do you actively TRY to sound like an idiot, or does it just come natural? I suggest that you look in the mirror :D I DO expect from a company with the amount of money they push around a more friendly customer approach and sorry, the insult they did post in this topic earlier, is not really customer friendly. That one of them tried to fix it later on, with the excuse HE is on holiday, doesnt make it better either. Its quite silly if only 1 person knows what goes on about a project, that involves basically one of the biggest part of eve. PS: and they better come up with something good this time, instead of another load of nerves, which I still expect to be the main reason they are not daring to post a blog about 0.0 "tweaks" All my accounts are still in cancel status and wont be renewed, unless they really show they do care for this game, instead of milking it only for their other games, that are aimed at a different player type. Lets be honest, their sub is already one of the most expensive in the mmo world.
Zey Nadar Gallente Unknown Soldiers B O R G	Posted - 2011.07.10 19:37:00 - [97] Edited by: Zey Nadar on 10/07/2011 19:38:58 Edited by: Zey Nadar on 10/07/2011 19:37:40 Im seconding some others in that news or plans about future changes to 0.0 or/and sov warfare is what people want to hear about. Regarding sov warfare, what Shadoo said on the alliance tournament video: "you gave us more structures to shoot at. With more HP". Really, did you think it was going to be more fun than shooting at poses? Granted, theres less deployment needed which is good but shooting at large non-interactive structures with a big blob.. is not really that fun. Maybe do something like what faction warfare apparently has (I wouldnt know, never tried that stuff), that is spawn sites that you need to take, and which would be something a small fleet could do, and could hopefully spark some small scale pvp? I dont know what are the chances of that turning into either a grind or a big blob fights, but maybe its something to think about. Plus theres this thing about rank and file alliance member income.. And how independent nullsec is from highsec. We all know its not really that independent. Continually less so now that you want to have highsec mission runner alts..
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.07.10 19:38:00 - [98] You really are out of touch with the forums if you think that a blog relevant/significant to null and the improvement thereof would drown in the Whine'n'Cheese of misinformation and tinfoil. The reason why it was a good idea to delay posting it is that it could be seen as throwing shiny coins into the rabble to make them disperse
Soldarius Caldari Northstar Cabal Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2011.07.11 03:04:00 - [99] When's the last time you threw loose change at the rabble and saw them disperse? I think converge describes it better. Or perhaps mob. In any event, a little hint about the upcoming changes would be nice. Personally, I think we should just get rid of sov. Stations and IHUBs serve a purpose as they are. POSes as well. Originally by: Krutoj You dont have a supercapital? buy PLEX trade it for ISK, buy supers. Just like any other mmo you can use your RL to pimp your character out (or tank for that matter).
EI Digin Caldari Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.07.11 03:36:00 - [100] Originally by: Kalle Demos Will the blog be titled "Death to all supercaps!"? cultural victory attained

Dr Ming Mindworks	Posted - 2011.07.11 03:54:00 - [101] Honestly, the reason there was enough ruckus to have the potential to drown things out on the forums is because people have reached the conclusion that CCP is putting little if any development effort into EVE (as in spaceship EVE, the game that people have been playing for years, not the incarna EVE that nobody has been playing). Showing people that CCP is putting development effort into EVE during the middle of a firestorm would likely get people to pay attention to it on a level that they wouldn't normally do. A lot of the P2W rage was based on: "I'm ALREADY paying CCP and not seeing any results, and now they want MORE money?" Unless of course the development is under-resourced and half-baked. Which is what people were angry about in the first place, and waiting a few weeks and reminding them of it after the firestorm has cooled down is simply going to get CCP a second firestorm.
Ai Mei Starfish Operating Syndicate	Posted - 2011.07.11 05:23:00 - [102] CCP is going to ahve to re-invent sov warfare, as it stands now, just a grind and who ever plops the most super caps wins. But some 0.0 changes that are needed, which we will most likely see is a huge industry boost, probably to make it worth mining out in 0.0 either capital mining ships or something. next have to attack the problem of supercap blobs, motherships are getting a nerf, all mom pilots know this and can see it coming, just which way is the nerf is the problem. do we drop 1 drone per level and make it 2 drones per level? or do we reduce ehp, or maybe limit the amount of caps that can travel per cyno? These are probably the questions Greyscale has been asking a lot, what is the best way to balance them? Yeah people say 0.0 got ruined, but people were farming and getting too fat of the same stuff. so you need to nerf the existing stuff to implement newer stuff. HONETLY how many in 0.0 actually mine? Besides Chribba? Who actually does industry out there? As of the current state it is more effective to buy a ton of ships in jita and haul them via carrier/mom/rorual out to 0.0 than it is to build it there. Also, technium is getting a nerf, that was also stated. i just wish they woudl allow us to moon mine in class 6 wormholes.
OMGxxxOMG	Posted - 2011.07.11 07:27:00 - [103] Will botting problem be solved aswell? Remove local and introduce covert scanning probes. I hate when local goes from 20 to 5 in few minutes cos neut enetered the system.
Uearel Atram	Posted - 2011.07.12 06:59:00 - [104] Originally by: Professional ****** Whats the point in CCP trying to fix 0.0, will just make it worse. You dont take your TV to the shop to get fixed and the security guard does it instead, just cause he saw it was broke on a forum and thinks he knows what hes doing. CCP have slowly been making 0.0 worse, sov changes forced everyone out of 0.0 that didnt have titans and carriers, supercap changes forced out people that didnt have ENOUGH titans and carriers, true sec nerf made 90% of 0.0 derelict and everyone coups up in the one high true sec system with a gazzilion bubbles around the gate and jump bridges are the only way in, making those people nearly untouchable. What next in their attempt to fix 0.0? Sad thing is, if they mess up they're probably not going to look at it again for another 3 years
cpu939 Gallente Volatile Nature White Noise.	Posted - 2011.08.01 16:47:00 - [105] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas so how was the holiday, how about that blog now?
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.08.01 18:00:00 - [106] Looking forwards to hearing about this.
Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2011.08.01 18:03:00 - [107] Originally by: Lady Spank Looking forwards to hearing about this. ---
Harener	Posted - 2011.08.01 21:39:00 - [108] bump
Crasniya	Posted - 2011.08.01 22:26:00 - [109] Half the responses to this thread prove why Soundwave and Greyscale are waiting on this. Folks, if you want to see the blog as badly as I do, stop making whine posts about Incarna on every single Blue thread you find. (Not to mention making your own whine threads.) They get the point. Now, they're waiting for you to quiet up, so they can tell us what they're going to give us for our spaceships.
Kitty McKitty Gallente In Praise Of Shadows	Posted - 2011.08.01 22:55:00 - [110] Originally by: Crasniya They get the point. Now, they're waiting for you to quiet up, so they can tell us what they're going to give us for our spaceships. That is NO reason to withhold information on an important update. The current whining is at a pretty low level. Perhaps if they want to stop people whining they should be better at releasing competent updates? Regardless of all that incarna rubbish, this is important stuff that needs to be communicated to the players as soon as possible. ~~~

Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.08.01 23:10:00 - [111] Edited by: Smoking Blunts on 01/08/2011 23:10:24 we all know there currently working on important nex sales graphs. vital questions need answering, how many monicals need to be sold to cover the closed account income? can we recover with just goggle sales? how much aur do we need to give out to make nex look like a sucess? vital questions, who actually cares about that FIS crap anyhow, monicals baby monicals
Renan Ruivo Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.01 23:22:00 - [112] They are all waiting to see the results for the new NeX itens and.. err how many people are flying with monocles on cargo to see if they need to.. umm.. and.. Yeah because they don't care about internet spaceships and 0.0 so the will probably.... Yeah i got nothing.. nevermind. ____________ Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
Tuggboat Minmatar	Posted - 2011.08.02 00:08:00 - [113] They are waiting for important alliances in the know to tell them they are far enough ahead of everybody on preparation so they can capitalize on them on day one instead of having to gear up like the rest.
Diondra Reuben	Posted - 2011.08.02 00:33:00 - [114] Eve has taught me one thing... Grown internet men do a lot of *****ing.
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.08.02 00:40:00 - [115] Originally by: Diondra Reuben Eve has taught me one thing... Grown internet men do a lot of *****ing. QfT
Harener	Posted - 2011.08.02 01:58:00 - [116] Originally by: Crasniya Half the responses to this thread prove why Soundwave and Greyscale are waiting on this. Folks, if you want to see the blog as badly as I do, stop making whine posts about Incarna on every single Blue thread you find. (Not to mention making your own whine threads.) They get the point. Now, they're waiting for you to quiet up, so they can tell us what they're going to give us for our spaceships. maybe if they said something to address our complaints...we would stop complaining?
Crasniya	Posted - 2011.08.02 07:20:00 - [117] Originally by: Harener maybe if they said something to address our complaints...we would stop complaining? to be blunt... shut up long enough for them to answer. ;)
Darius III Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.08.02 07:30:00 - [118] Originally by: cpu939 Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter No rush mate-D3
Harener	Posted - 2011.08.02 08:01:00 - [119] Alright I was watching EVE Vegas (http://www.livestream.com/everadio/video?clipId=pla_f06419ad-4c93-44c3-be0a-13387eccd13c&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb) and Soundwave said the devblog is pretty much done, and will be released in a few days.
ITTigerClawIK Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers	Posted - 2011.08.02 10:48:00 - [120] very much looking foward to this blog, hoping its coming VERY soon , like today perhaps? :-P Sig space reclaimed in the name of me -courtesy of Tiggy Personal information removed from sig. Zymurgist

Sonya Mag	Posted - 2011.08.02 12:06:00 - [121] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Hey everyone, saw this thread while stalking Soundwave and just wanted to let you know that I'm on vacation for two weeks, so the first blog's probably going to be about three weeks away at this point. It's a we-want-your-feedback blog not an I-am-the-law blog so I want to be on hand to respond in the comments thread, and I can't guarantee that I'll be available on a given day while I'm chilling on a yacht* in the Bahamas*. Will not in fact be chilling on a yacht ** Will not in fact be going to the Bahamas Hi CCP Greyscale! Vacations were good? how is the family and friends? hope you had a great time and family is good. By now you should be back in the office. About that 0.0 ideas blog you wrote, can you post it? Things are a little down here in the office, everybody on vacation, nothing to do, give me a bone, I need something to read and a reason to post. Thanks
Jekyl Eraser	Posted - 2011.08.02 12:59:00 - [122] Don't allow attacker to take away individual player income(sanctums and havens are killable). thats a sure way to drive people away. Instead just allow to kill army, defenses and production capability(to deny capital production). I'll go back to 0.0 when the blobs are killed aka when you can't get half galaxy to one fight. Oyea stop the instant hotdrops. give a bit of warning, a chance to getaway. Would be nice to be able to use other than crap cheap implants too... bubbles
Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Caldari	Posted - 2011.08.02 13:17:00 - [123] Not a link to the devblog
sakana Sebiestor Tribe	Posted - 2011.08.02 13:21:00 - [124] whats this protest and "rough few weeks" people keep alluding to?
idea	Posted - 2011.08.02 13:48:00 - [125] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: cpu939 as from this post from ccp soundwave http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509071&page=27#794 those that don't want to click Originally by: CCP Soundwave We'll be looking at 0.0 this winter. We're hammering down the principles we'll work by as we speak, and they're being reviewed by the CSM. Once they've had their chance to give feedback in person (later this month), I'll happily post the groundwork for everyone to see. From there on, detailed designwork and implementation. It has been over a month since you posted that and I'm sure the CSM have had their look over it how about you keep your word ccp soundwave and post the groundwork as you called it? now I don't think they/he will until a day or few days before the release, but I post this in the hopes that ccp will post this to build even more trust with the players by showing they keep their word(s) Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. bwahahah funny how he blames the playerbase for not having done his work :)
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2011.08.02 15:23:00 - [126] Will the devblog be called "Give me spaceships or give me death!"?
Bloodpetal Mimidae Risk Solutions	Posted - 2011.08.02 15:24:00 - [127] Edited by: Bloodpetal on 02/08/2011 15:24:42 Originally by: CCP Soundwave Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. The way this reads is as follows : "We don't want to distract the community from the NEX Store. Any publicity is good publicity. So, feel free to start buying NEX Items to propose the success of that project before we start giving you more Ships In Space." AURUM NOSTRUM NON EST AURUM VULGI
Shadowsword The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva	Posted - 2011.08.02 15:29:00 - [128] Can't believe we have to wait so long to hear about something that important as the future of 0.0. Irritated, I'm starting to get... ------------------------------------------
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.08.02 15:31:00 - [129] Originally by: Shadowsword Irritated, I'm starting to get... Heh, wait until you read the devblog. --------
Naradius DEATHFUNK	Posted - 2011.08.02 15:32:00 - [130] 0.0 improvements are good...it may get me back out there, at last. It wasn't so much the sov changes that ruined it for me (although they didn't help), but the lag, and who remembers when we were told rubber banding had gone forever...then only to reappear lolCCP! On a final note - lets not forget, that it was CCP who took their attention away from spaceships...it's something the player base has always focused on

Asterian XVV Amarr Hightec Constructions	Posted - 2011.08.02 15:46:00 - [131] Originally by: Vice Admiral Spreadsheet Not a link to the devblog Curse you I like potatoes
Doctor Invictus Gallente Industry and Investments	Posted - 2011.08.02 17:17:00 - [132] According to a democratic poll, what nullsec really needs is more medals. If someone addressed all the common complaints about nullsec in a single proposal, would CCP ever find it?
Shadowsword The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva	Posted - 2011.08.03 10:44:00 - [133] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Sorry about this. Greyscale has a devblog ready, but we were afraid that it would drown in all the drama going on the past weeks. Hopefully we'll be at a calmer place soon so we can get back to talking about spaceships. I looked at the CSM minutes today, and they have some good info too. Sorry for not being able to deliver it to you sooner, but hopefully we can pass this info on soon. Bump. For a blog that was ready nearly a month ago, it's taking time to be delivered... ------------------------------------------
SuHwak Eve Engineering Logistics Eve Engineering	Posted - 2011.08.03 11:10:00 - [134] What I would have done in CCP's place after/in the Incarna/NeX fallout: Flood the community with devblogs about space, spaceships and fixing the user interface(!). This silence is only making things much worse then it could have been. ---- Diplomacy: Telling someone to go to hell in such a way, that he looks forward to the trip.
Sonya Mag	Posted - 2011.08.03 12:12:00 - [135] still waiting
Rrama Ratamnim	Posted - 2011.08.03 13:27:00 - [136] Why is this devblog still not out??? The "rage" has died down a good bit... I really wanna hear more about the Blackops as "Stealth bombers for supercaps" and destroyers as fighter destroyers, dear god fixing 3 sets of ships at once sounds so good lol
Smoking Blunts	Posted - 2011.08.03 13:27:00 - [137] was under the impression tahat a few weeks ago a blog about 0.0 was talked about.. did i miss it?
Kirkland Langue	Posted - 2011.08.03 13:33:00 - [138] The DevBlog was ready, then they realized that posting an empty post would be against the rules of the Forums, so they didn't post it.
Udan Funaila	Posted - 2011.08.03 13:36:00 - [139] I too would like an update. Though, its obvious all we'll get this winter is more NeX crap, and useless CQs.

CCP Greyscale	Posted - 2011.08.03 14:34:00 - [140] Apologies for being a couple of days later than I originally suggested, we had a national holiday on Monday. Blog is here. Also my vacation was very civilized thanks


Zey Nadar Gallente Unknown Soldiers B O R G	Posted - 2011.08.03 15:01:00 - [141] Edited by: Zey Nadar on 03/08/2011 15:04:31 Nice blog! The "lessons learned" part is excellent, and I am in agreement with pretty much all of it. It also gives me hope of getting this working some day, since theres some proper insights in there which are obvious to us but not necessarily obvious to CCP as history has shown. The "design rules" part is more two-edged, as it in my opinion has couple things that cannot be achieved, because reality is different from dreams. This however should provide grounds for some great discussions and hopefully improvement. I'm going to delve deeper into this after Ive finished with my RL chores. One thing that I want to point out though, I wish CCP would test grounds by having dialog with players or at least with CSM after you have thought out some ideas about changes. "This is what we have in mind, how do you think players would react to it? Will it improve things?". Instead of just pushing changes live with no chance for us to respond to it. Having discussion at that stage, after you have fleshed out some ideas is very important in my opinion.
Pavel Bidermann	Posted - 2011.08.03 15:31:00 - [142] Thanks? Not much of a blog there. "We messed up a bunch of stuff but we like to get customer feed back so we can ignore it."?
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2011.08.03 15:53:00 - [143] I lol'd at this Quote: The functional role of Nullsec Nullsec permits extremely rich PvP experiences at all fleet sizes -
Izida Caldari EVE-EX Express Courier Service	Posted - 2011.08.03 22:20:00 - [144] So hot giant blob on blob action is rich pvp experience now? Really?
Tron Flux Caldari Midnite Madness	Posted - 2011.08.03 23:02:00 - [145] Originally by: Misanth I lol'd at this Quote: The functional role of Nullsec Nullsec permits extremely rich PvP experiences at all fleet sizes I think your brain stumbled into a tree while it was busy not seeing the forest.
Doctor Invictus Gallente Industry and Investments	Posted - 2011.08.03 23:37:00 - [146] Originally by: CCP Greyscale Apologies for being a couple of days later than I originally suggested, we had a national holiday on Monday. Blog is here. Also my vacation was very civilized thanks I've got you Grand Unified Theory of nullsec design right here. You're welcome. If someone addressed all the common complaints about nullsec in a single proposal, would CCP ever find it?


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