citation: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=155029

-Base flight time reduced by 30%
-Base velocity increased by 6.66%
-In total, base range reduced by ~25%
-Damage decreased by 20% (rounded to closest digit)
-Affects all variant Heavy missiles, including FOF.

I really don't understand the need to nerf Heavy Missiles. That system just BLOWs when you aint blobbing in Pvp.

This obviously affects the drake and tengu equally for C2/C3s and III/IVs. Will you be moving to heavy assault missiles, a new ship, or changing your playstyle? I'm curious as to your responses.

I don't see it affecting wormhole Tengu's THAT much. Site running will take longer, and you'll have to get closer, but in the end, pilots will adapt.

A 20% damage reduction is pretty significant.

Yes it is and they will nerf the T3 hull too. They will nerf it hard.

Quoting CCP Ytterbium: " Tech3 ships need to be put down, like a rabid dog drooling everywhere in the house, they are out of line."

Entertaining times ahead.

Yes, but my concern is if they're nerfing them to the point that they're not really worth their high cost anymore

Would switching to HAM's for PvE be viable? You'd have to web frigs instead of target point them and the new tracking computer buffs would help with the range.

With the change to Tracking Enhancers, HAMs might be more effective, but you're losing DPS by dropping a Ballistic Control for a TE or you lose some of your tank by adding a Tracking Computer or a web. HAMs are still pretty awful, HMLs are just closer to HAMs in their awfulness now.

Would switching to HAM's for PvE be viable? You'd have to web frigs instead of target point them and the new tracking computer buffs would help with the range.

Yes, but my concern is if they're nerfing them to the point that they're not really worth their high cost anymore.

All of this is unfortunate. I've been training up for a tengu for over 3 months now. I spent the money to get the proper implants, got a bunch of the right missile skills to V, and I was planing to run lots of low sec missions to make things more exciting. I can't see any reasonable way to run low sec missions in a battleship. I guess I'm just going to have to retrain for a Machaiel or Nightmare and skip low sec.

Not everything needs to be the same.

^^^This.

Why the hell are they nerfing heavy missiles?? They're the least used in PVP as it is.

FWIW, my CNR can fire cruise missiles over 200k km, so not sure why heavy missiles that can fly 100 km need to be nerfed.. just going to make it easier for fast ships to escape the range of missiles.. but I can understand that better than a damage nerf. They're already a low damage weapon.

I will probably switch to a HAM Tengu/Drake for various missions/anomalies given that the range discrepancy wouldn't be as significant if this nerf goes into effect.

citation: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1937253#post1937253
Here are some raw numbers useful for understanding the proposed HML, beam laser and artillery changes:

250mm Railgun II with Spike:
DPS: 20
Alpha: 92
Optimal: 65 km
Falloff: 15 km
Cap/sec: -1.1
PG: 187.2
CPU: 31.5

Heavy Beam Laser II with Aurora:
DPS: 21
Alpha: 91
Optimal: 54 km
Falloff: 10 km
Cap/sec: -3.8
PG: 223.2 (previously 248.5)
CPU: 27.8

720mm Artillery II with Tremor:
DPS: 17
Alpha: 242
Optimal: 54 km
Falloff: 22 km
Cap/sec: 0
PG: 223.2 (previously 248.5)
CPU: 24

Heavy Missile Launcher II with Caldari Navy Scourge:
DPS: 23 (previously 29)
Alpha: 189 (previously 237)
Range: 63 km (previously 84)
Cap/sec: 0
PG: 94.5
CPU: 41.3

This is without any ship bonuses. My view on this is that a 25% range and a 20% dps nerf only seem ridiculous if one ignores just how much better HMLs were than other weapon systems.

It seems b*ll sh*t to me............. make the other systems better then?
Also: every1 can train for whatever ship, also Tengu.

CCP always works in the wrong direction?