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CptConorado
Amarr
Vengeance Imperium
The Remnant Legion
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: CptConorado on 20/07/2011 22:04:18
 Originally by: Merin Ryskin
You have it backwards. Gallente are the US, just look at the original Caldari vs. Gallente war. Just like the US, the Gallente claim to be all about freedom and democracy, but the moment you try to use your freedom and democracy to do something the Gallente don't like, they send in the fleet to kill you, and they don't care much about how many innocent civilians die in the process.
Replace "Caldari" with "Iraq" in that story and you have a pretty good description of the past ~10 years.
I prefer to think us Americans are more akin to the Amarr. We share their zealous patriotism and we use to own slaves.
EDIT: Plus we are the only country on Earth to be Badass enough to use lasers. Just sayin.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:05:00 -
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but the moment you try to use your freedom and democracy to do something the Gallente don't like, they send in the fleet to kill you,
That's what I love about America, is even people that have no ****ing clue whatsoever are allowed to say anything they want.
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Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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CptConorado
Amarr
Vengeance Imperium
The Remnant Legion
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
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but the moment you try to use your freedom and democracy to do something the Gallente don't like, they send in the fleet to kill you,
That's what I love about America, is even people that have no ****ing clue whatsoever are allowed to say anything they want.
It is the American Dream, and we are living it.
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Alisha Firesale
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: CptConorado
Originally by: Cipher Jones
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but the moment you try to use your freedom and democracy to do something the Gallente don't like, they send in the fleet to kill you,
That's what I love about America, is even people that have no ****ing clue whatsoever are allowed to say anything they want.
It is the American Dream, and we are living it.
Shame its only just a dream. You can say wtf you want in Western European countries aswell
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Barbelo Valentinian
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:26:00 -
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The nice thing about the races is that they're all a bit mixed up from what we know today, but do contain echoes of everything in different ways. I've always thought it's very "realistic" in terms of representing cultural drift over many centuries.
Amarr = America, mainly WASPs, but oriented around another religion than Christianity. They also have vague echoes of Asian and Middle Eastern racial elements, and of Islamic religion. They oppress:
Minmatar, whose oppression by the Amarr echoes the older forms of oppression of Black people in the US; but the Minmatar tribes also include pure Nordic peoples too (this is ironic).
Caldari = State (or "crony") capitalism (as exists in the West generally at present) and the Zaibatsu mentality (as it exists in Japan), but also any form of nationalism. Mixed Italian and Japanese ancestry, sort of.
Gallente is of course French-ish, echoing the French as the first liberal revolutionaries of the 18th century. They represent a more "cowboy" version of capitalism (more like early America) but also a more contemporary European style democracy. Some Chinese and Indian subcontinent elements.
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Sekhmet Neteret
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Barakkus
Minmatar are Cubans.
You sure not space mexicans?
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:38:00 -
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Edited by: Blacksquirrel on 20/07/2011 22:38:15
Originally by: Sekhmet Neteret
Originally by: Barakkus
Minmatar are Cubans.
You sure not space mexicans?
Why are Minms run by oligarchs and Vicious cartels?
Truthfully im not seeing many parallels with modern societies. Sure their are elements, but you look close enough you'd be able find a bit of all of them in any society.
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Raze Valadeus
Amarr
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2011.07.20 22:55:00 -
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Amarr = Amarr
Gallente = Gallente
Caldari = Caldari
Minmatar = Minmatar
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LordOfDespair
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Negentig
Originally by: Sepyuff
Wait, you are saying the EU isn't run by corporations? IMF would like to have a word with you.
The IMF practically owns Greece and more are falling prey to them.
If you mean the IMF is a corporate institution you are mistaken. BTW China(+ N-Europe) owns the U.S. following your line of thought..... Also, capitalism thrives in theocracies, democracies etc. has nothing to do with the kind of government.
Amarr = U.S./Iran (theocracy)
Caldari = Japan/Korea (megacorporations: google zaibatsu and chaebol)
Gallente = France/Northern Europe (corrupt bureaucratic democracy)
Minmatar = Liberia (freed slaves driving crappy stuff)
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US is not a theocracy and is in no way similar to Iran.
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Raven Aldura
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:03:00 -
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I feel like the u.s. Has way too many factions that hate each other for some of these descriptions to be right. Like democrats = galentie and republicans = amarr at face value but really we are all Caldari. Actually I guess that does work lol.
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Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Amarr = Amarr
Gallente = Gallente
Caldari = Caldari
Minmatar = Minmatar
Thank you.
Comparing the fluff of this game to real life politics, economics, or theology is pretty damn ******ed.
A militaristic, fascist, authoritarian government with a state of collectivists, corporatists, and serfs is "Hyper-Capitalistic" because..? Because they call their enclaves Corporations? Does... not... compute...
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: LordOfDespair
US is not a theocracy and is in no way similar to Iran.
You both have religious nutters.
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Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: LordOfDespair
US is not a theocracy and is in no way similar to Iran.
You both have religious nutters.
You used the word "nutters", so I'm gonna assume you're British, or some other Commonwealth citizen. The Queen is the head of the Church of England. You live in a Theocracy. The U.S. neither has a state religion nor is government by it or it's representative.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ehdward
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: LordOfDespair
US is not a theocracy and is in no way similar to Iran.
You both have religious nutters.
You used the word "nutters", so I'm gonna assume you're British, or some other Commonwealth citizen. The Queen is the head of the Church of England. You live in a Theocracy. The U.S. neither has a state religion nor is government by it or it's representative.
But you do have religious nutters
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Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: Ehdward
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: LordOfDespair
US is not a theocracy and is in no way similar to Iran.
You both have religious nutters.
You used the word "nutters", so I'm gonna assume you're British, or some other Commonwealth citizen. The Queen is the head of the Church of England. You live in a Theocracy. The U.S. neither has a state religion nor is government by it or it's representative.
But you do have religious nutters
Well, yes.
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LordOfDespair
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: LordOfDespair on 20/07/2011 23:16:06
Originally by: baltec1
Originally by: LordOfDespair
US is not a theocracy and is in no way similar to Iran.
You both have religious nutters.
Iran is run by religious nutters.
US has separation of church and state.
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.07.20 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 20/07/2011 23:40:06
Originally by: Sekhmet Neteret
Originally by: Barakkus
Minmatar are Cubans.
You sure not space mexicans?
Who knows...I'm a space Mexican irl...
Well I should clarify, my father was a space Mexican, my mother is a space Ukranian...
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Kirkland Langue
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Posted - 2011.07.21 00:16:00 -
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America is more like Amarr than Caldari - tons of religious nuts over here and a desire to control everything.
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Firh
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Posted - 2011.07.21 00:17:00 -
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Gallente: French
Caldari: Russian
Amarr: American
Minmatar: Jamaican
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Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.07.21 00:22:00 -
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Gallente = liberal Progressives
Amarr = Neo Conservatives
Cladari = Capitalist purists
Mimatar = Ever disenfranchised or abused minority that was a victim of the amarr
There? happy?
Gallente/Mimatar are the the good guys
Caldari just want money
amarr are evil space republicans.
"Sweet Jesus, It's an Anti-AT field!"
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Maverick2011
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.21 00:35:00 -
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Caldari = USA
Gallente = French
Amarr = USSR (now Russia)
Minmatar = Africa and Latin America
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2011.07.21 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer on 21/07/2011 00:40:19
How did this get to page 2 without being moved to OOPE?
Maybe CCP is on holiday today? Whoohooo! FOOOD FIIIIIGHT!!!!!
Rick Roll, anyone?
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.21 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Gallente/Mimatar are the the good guys
àI don't know if I'd call the Gallente good guys ù they've shown to be quite into genocide and oppression of dissident thinkers, after all.
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ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö
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0oO0oOoOo0o
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Posted - 2011.07.21 00:53:00 -
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Gallente = French, that's the only secure link (it is mentioned in the storyline that Gallente derive from tau ceti french). From this known link we can find the other races. The arch enemy of France is not USA. It is Germany, there were always a lot of wars between Germany and France in history (not only WWI and WWII). Especially the **** Germany has a lot of parallels (Dictatorship, think they are racially superior, which is mentioned in the Caldari background history etc.).
Minmatars are often of black skin and were enslaved by the Amarr. Maybe this refers to Africans, who are black and were enslaved by Americans in the past. And Americans are very religious, this matches as well.
So my theory is: Gallente = French; Caldari = German (**** Germany, not the Germany of today); Minmatar = Africa of 19th Century; AMaRr = AMeRicans
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Negentig
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Negentig on 21/07/2011 01:02:57
Tengu is Japanese.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ehdward
Originally by: Raze Valadeus
Amarr = Amarr
Gallente = Gallente
Caldari = Caldari
Minmatar = Minmatar
Thank you.
Comparing the fluff of this game to real life politics, economics, or theology is pretty damn ******ed.
Actually, it's what makes Eve real and human. Besides, humans are slaves to pattern and parallel, we see it in everything.
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: 0oO0oOoOo0o
So my theory is: Gallente = French; Caldari = German (**** Germany, not the Germany of today); Minmatar = Africa of 19th Century; AMaRr = AMeRicans
I still maintain that the Caldari are space Italians (c.a. 1922û'45) due to the close connection to but historical animosity towards the space-French, and due to their close connection to the space-Catholics.
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ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö
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Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:09:00 -
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So how about the Jove?
It is really silly to try to fit ANY a fictional country into a country in real world.
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Eduj Bestlie
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Eduj Bestlie on 21/07/2011 01:14:47
Originally by: Alisha Firesale
Shame its only just a dream. You can say wtf you want in Western European countries aswell
Germany isn't western europe? Cause a few uh, touchy subjects, are quite verboten.
Also GB restricted footage use of the royal wedding against the use of satire/parody.
France banned some religious perifinela in public, which is covered as free speech in many countries. (Head scarves, crucifix necklace, yamulke, etc.)
So.. about that free speech you all have...
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Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.21 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kogh Ayon
So how about the Jove?
Space cats. They could pwn us all if they could just be bothered. In the mean-time, you'd better feed them and scratch them behind the ear while they lounge aroundà
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ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö
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