Pages: 1 2 3 4 :: [one page] |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 1 post(s) |

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:26:00 -
[1]
More details are trickling out, but its quite clear that Muslim terrorists launched these attacks against the leftist Norwegian PM and a simultaneous shooting attack against defenseless children.
Grieving for those killed is normal, but grief is not the correct response to this outrage. It is time for righteous anger.
Norwegians leftists can give out Peace Prizes to terrorists and Muslim apologists if they like, but force is the only language these 'people' understand. US Special Forces killed Osama bin Laden, but he was only one of thousands. They ALL must be rooted out and destroyed, or these fatal attacks against innocents will continue.
It is time for Scandinavians to embrace their Viking roots and cast off the pathetic pacifism that only invites more attacks on their own soil. (And the Finns too - it isn't 'Viking' or NATO, but Helsinki could easily be next. Do you want to see dead civilians on Aleksanterinkatu?)
What can you do? Norway has half a trillion dollars in their Oljefondet. Call your MPs and encourage them to invest it in increased defense spending. Support candidates that discourage immigration from radical Muslim countries.
And you won't be alone. When the USA throws out Obama in 2012, the military campaign against violent Muslim groups will once again be a priority.
Now is not the time to 'turn the other cheek' or blame the victims. 
|

stoicfaux
Gallente
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:30:00 -
[2]
Edited by: stoicfaux on 22/07/2011 18:33:23 Link to reliable news source stating that Muslim terrorists are behind the bombing and shooting?
edit: Jihadists claim credit. It's still unconfirmed though.
"A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forcesÆ presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. ôWe have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations,ö the group said, according to Mr. McCantsÆ translation, apparently referring to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010. ôWhat you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come.ö The claim could not be confirmed." ----- CCP's NeX Pricing Tiers Affordable: One PLEX Mid: 3-4 PLEX Deluxe: Only for "flamboyantly rich capsuleers" Exceptional: ?? |

Yoa Loother
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:32:00 -
[3]
Oh noes this is horrible!
Please here have ALL my freedoms now so the ebil muslims don¦t win!
Go to your nearest TSA checkpoint, show your papers and let them shove a fist up your a$$ to make sure Al¦s Kaeda hasn¦t hidden a bomb there.  _ .. darn |

Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:47:00 -
[4]
*le sigh*
self.faithInHumanity--; ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
|

Safrina Nodachii
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 18:57:00 -
[5]
Herr Wilkus, spread your propaganda elsewhere. Nothing is confirmed, you don't know something everyone else doesn't? Thank you for your stupidity that you've cleary embraced.
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:04:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Safrina Nodachii Herr Wilkus, spread your propaganda elsewhere. Nothing is confirmed, you don't know something everyone else doesn't? Thank you for your stupidity that you've cleary embraced.
When 'responsible media sources' confirm what everyone already knows you are free to return and admit how stupid you are.
Who do you think did it? Skinheads? Retired American 'Tea Party' members on vacation? Quisling from the grave?
|

Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:12:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Adeptus mecanicus on 22/07/2011 19:18:40 Police has just stated that they belive the 2 attacks are linked and the person that was arrested at ut°ya was 1.90 meters tall and blondeà.basicly of scandinavian/caucasian decent, then again herr wilkus you seems set in your ways so it prolly was a taliban that has used mercury cream to get pale and dyed his hair and vearing stilts
Recruitment video |

stoicfaux
Gallente
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:17:00 -
[8]
Edited by: stoicfaux on 22/07/2011 19:17:28
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Originally by: Safrina Nodachii Herr Wilkus, spread your propaganda elsewhere. Nothing is confirmed, you don't know something everyone else doesn't? Thank you for your stupidity that you've cleary embraced.
When 'responsible media sources' confirm what everyone already knows you are free to return and admit how stupid you are.
Who do you think did it? Skinheads? Retired American 'Tea Party' members on vacation? Quisling from the grave?
The point is that it could be home grown terrorism. If you automatically jump to "Muslims!", you might be blinding yourself to other threats. The US has/had McVeigh bombing a federal building, the Olympic bombing, and bombings of abortion clinics. Muslim terrorists may be the way to bet, but it helps to make sure before you call for a crusade.
Then there's the problem that in your original post, you seem to have the same uncompromising, kill them all, anyone who disagrees is the enemy, radicalized politics mentality that a terrorist would have.
----- CCP's NeX Pricing Tiers Affordable: One PLEX Mid: 3-4 PLEX Deluxe: Only for "flamboyantly rich capsuleers" Exceptional: ?? |

Safrina Nodachii
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:23:00 -
[9]
Edited by: Safrina Nodachii on 22/07/2011 19:24:45
Quote: When 'responsible media sources' confirm what everyone already knows you are free to return and admit how stupid you are. Who do you think did it? Skinheads? Retired American 'Tea Party' members on vacation? Quisling from the grave?
Responsible media has not confirmed anything, they've speculated and said so outright, you on the other hand have not speculated.
Edit: The Oklahoma bombing was supposedly muslims aswell..
|

Sergeant Spot
Galactic Geographic BookMark Surveying Inc.
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:37:00 -
[10]
It is a good bet that it is Islamic terror.
The above sentence is EXACTLY true. Each word is there for a reason. ESPECIALLY "bet".
If a terror bomb goes off, it is completely true that it might not be Islamic terror.
But if you bet $100 on each terror bomb at 1 for 1 odds, you'll make good money.
Play nice while you butcher each other.
|
|

Citizen20100211442
Minmatar Carebear Evolution
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:38:00 -
[11]
Edited by: Citizen20100211442 on 22/07/2011 19:40:47 Fail of multiculturalism. The only solution - kick all internationals and crow-faces out of any government, and deport all third worlders out of country. Make it clean , like in good old times.
Scandinavia - for scandinavians. And only them.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:45:00 -
[12]
Surprise surprise, the religion of peace strikes again.
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 19:52:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus Edited by: Adeptus mecanicus on 22/07/2011 19:18:40 Police has just stated that they belive the 2 attacks are linked and the person that was arrested at ut°ya was 1.90 meters tall and blondeà.basicly of scandinavian/caucasian decent, then again herr wilkus you seems set in your ways so it prolly was a taliban that has used mercury cream to get pale and dyed his hair and vearing stilts
Meet the American Taliban. Its a shame they arrested this guy, they should have ventilated him while they had the chance.
|

Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:11:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus Edited by: Adeptus mecanicus on 22/07/2011 19:18:40 Police has just stated that they belive the 2 attacks are linked and the person that was arrested at ut°ya was 1.90 meters tall and blondeà.basicly of scandinavian/caucasian decent, then again herr wilkus you seems set in your ways so it prolly was a taliban that has used mercury cream to get pale and dyed his hair and vearing stilts
Meet the American Taliban. Its a shame they arrested this guy, they should have ventilated him while they had the chance.
seems like grasping at straws tho we wont know the true reason untill the police offer statments of their interrogation of him has revealed, its still to soon to say if its some religus or extremist or some of the terror cells that is to blameàà..for all we know it might be a single mans "war" against the labor party
Recruitment video |

Chepe Nolon
Gallente Inquest
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:25:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus ..for all we know it might be a single mans "war" against the labor party
Yep, that's what may have happened. From the media the shooter is a 190cm tall guy. Blond hair and looks Scandinavian. We must also remember that Norway has more guns per household than the US. I'm not kidding. Plus the access to automatic weapons is present. And we have the education and access to the means to make bombs and pull of a job like this. Demolition experts have explosives (civilian) stored unsecured in their basement! Recently a house close by me was blown to bits due to that. Luckily no one was hurt at that time.
Now we just hope to find some answer about why. I don't know if we'll ever get them, because this guy can tell us what we want to hear, or just put credit to some random group. Or he could be just insane, but a bit luckier than the guys in Sweden and Denmark. 
Chepe Nolon -- http://eve-survival.org |

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:47:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Meet the American Taliban. Its a shame they arrested this guy, they should have ventilated him while they had the chance.
There was also Colleen "Jihad Jane" LaRose.
And while early reports are usually wrong, there's really only one religion in the world right now that has a remarkably consistent pattern of car bombings and purposeful targetting of innocents with the intent of maximizing death toll. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that Islam is once again the driving force behind a similar attack.
Is there a *chance* that it's not? Sure. But the fact that the odds are so heavily skewed for this sort event being tied to Islam that it is immediately everyone's first assumption (whether they admit it or not) says a lot about the religion. It would actually be more newsworthy if it wasn't a Muslim terrorist, since it would be out of the ordinary.
I also can't help but notice that many of those in the media today who are parroting the "Don't make assumptions" mantra are the same ones who immediately tried to smear the Tea Party with the Gabrielle Giffords shooting. And when that turned out to be wrong, and the guy turn out to be a leftist nut with a fondness for Marx, they had no interest in reporting it.
But when it comes to something that has all the hallmarks of Islamic terrorism, oh heaven forbid we assume.
|

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 20:59:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Chepe Nolon
Originally by: Adeptus mecanicus ..for all we know it might be a single mans "war" against the labor party
Yep, that's what may have happened. From the media the shooter is a 190cm tall guy. Blond hair and looks Scandinavian. We must also remember that Norway has more guns per household than the US. I'm not kidding. Plus the access to automatic weapons is present. And we have the education and access to the means to make bombs and pull of a job like this. Demolition experts have explosives (civilian) stored unsecured in their basement! Recently a house close by me was blown to bits due to that. Luckily no one was hurt at that time.
Now we just hope to find some answer about why. I don't know if we'll ever get them, because this guy can tell us what we want to hear, or just put credit to some random group. Or he could be just insane, but a bit luckier than the guys in Sweden and Denmark. 
Easy conclusions to be drawn, he's one of the scandinavia for scandinavians people, rightwinger going after the leftist youth as they are easier to shoot than debate with.
Last I read about 30 dead at the island.
Delenda est achura. |

Omara Otawan
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:02:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Easy conclusions to be drawn, he's one of the scandinavia for scandinavians people, rightwinger going after the leftist youth as they are easier to shoot than debate with.
Last I read about 30 dead at the island.
Thats my guess too, target selection just does not add up with islamic terrorism.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:03:00 -
[19]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 21:05:58
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Easy conclusions to be drawn, he's one of the scandinavia for scandinavians people, rightwinger going after the leftist youth as they are easier to shoot than debate with.
Is the right in Scandinavia typically violent?
Here in the United States, the number one perpetrators of terrorism are radical environmental leftists, followed by Islam. Right wing terror ranks last.
|

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:11:00 -
[20]
Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 21:05:58
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Easy conclusions to be drawn, he's one of the scandinavia for scandinavians people, rightwinger going after the leftist youth as they are easier to shoot than debate with.
Is the right in Scandinavia typically violent?
Here in the United States, the number one perpetrators of terrorism are radical environmental leftists, followed by Islam. Right wing terror ranks last.
When you hear about a mass killing in Scandinavia the default is it's a right wing nutter gone off his rockers.
It's a reaction to the society rejecting their ideas, in the US that wouldn't be that much of a problem for someone leaning right.
Delenda est achura. |
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:11:00 -
[21]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:12:53
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Is the right in Scandinavia typically violent?
Here in the United States, the number one perpetrators of terrorism are radical environmental leftists, followed by Islam. Right wing terror ranks last.
Fox news called. They want their bull**** back.
Originally by: American domestic terrorism circa 1980 to present 1980s: Right Wing Terrorism on the Rise The radicalism of the 1960s and 1970s was followed by the conservatism of the Reagan era, in mainstream America. Political violence too, took a turn to the right. In the 1980s, white supremacist and neo-**** groups such as Aryan Nation saw a resurgence, often among working class white males, who perceived themselves as displaced by women, African Americans, Jews, and immigrants who benefited from new civil rights legislation.
Terrorism in the name of Christianity also surged in the 1980s and 1990s. Radical groups and individuals committed to violent action to stop abortion were among the most visible. Michael Bray, head of a group called the Army of God spent four years in prison for his abortion clinic bombings in the 1980s.
In 1999, the most lethal act of domestic violence to date occurred when Timothy McVeigh bombed the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people. McVeigh's stated motivation--revenge against a federal government that he viewed as intrusive and oppressive, was an extreme version of more mainstream desire among many for a smaller government. Dean Harvey Hicks, a citizen angry over his taxes, for example, created the one-man terrorist group "Up the IRS, Inc." and tried to bomb IRS locations.
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:12:00 -
[22]
I also remember the recent Times Square carbombing attempt.
Early reports were a middle-aged white male. Bloomberg and the leftist media screamed TEA PARTY TERRORISM, despite no criminal activity whatsoever out of the Tea Party, to date.
They were oh, so disappointed when, whoops, no - it turned out to be your 'run of the mill' botched Muslim terrorist attack.
The media ink bashing the 'Tea party' would have flowed like spooge in an adult movie establishment. But, wait - damn its a Muslim. Move along people, nothing to see here.
|

Erichk Knaar
Caldari Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:13:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 21:05:58
Originally by: Wendat Huron
Easy conclusions to be drawn, he's one of the scandinavia for scandinavians people, rightwinger going after the leftist youth as they are easier to shoot than debate with.
Is the right in Scandinavia typically violent?
Here in the United States, the number one perpetrators of terrorism are radical environmental leftists, followed by Islam. Right wing terror ranks last.
Because Oklahoma City was completely insignificant, right?
|

Citizen20100211442
Minmatar Carebear Evolution
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:14:00 -
[24]
Here he is
The guy in left begs for mercy. Still curious about reason of this
|

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:20:00 -
[25]
Like there was any doubt who could be responsible for that. Last time I checked news I didn't see blond blue eyed Europeans running down the streets with knives out cutting heads off and killing everyone that moves. It's like a no-brainer - you hear about a blast in a school bus, massacre in a hotel or someone's cut to pieces in front of the camera and you already know who might do it.
|

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:20:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Citizen20100211442 Here he is
The guy in left begs for mercy. Still curious about reason of this
Really? How young are you? Rightwing shooter believe the leftwing party is selling out his people and tries to kill as many of the traitors as he can before captured or killed. I'd be willing to bet isk on this.
Delenda est achura. |

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:23:00 -
[27]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:23:36
Originally by: Estephania Like there was any doubt who could be responsible for that. Last time I checked news I didn't see blond blue eyed Europeans running down the streets with knives out cutting heads off and killing everyone that moves. It's like a no-brainer - you hear about a blast in a school bus, massacre in a hotel or someone's cut to pieces in front of the camera and you already know who might do it.
Confirming blond haird and blue eye'd people have no history of violence.
|

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:36:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:23:36
Originally by: Estephania Like there was any doubt who could be responsible for that. Last time I checked news I didn't see blond blue eyed Europeans running down the streets with knives out cutting heads off and killing everyone that moves. It's like a no-brainer - you hear about a blast in a school bus, massacre in a hotel or someone's cut to pieces in front of the camera and you already know who might do it.
Confirming blond haird and blue eye'd people have no history of violence.
Were we discussing WW II? Guess not. We were talking about terrorism and latest Oslo attacks. You can pretend that we are all the same, but plz, don't let the reality shatter your rosy world where everyone hugs and kisses.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:43:00 -
[29]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 21:45:22
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Fox news called. They want their bull**** back.
The FBI called. They offered to help pry your foot from your mouth.
From 2002-2005:
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005
Quote: In keeping with a longstanding trend, domestic extremists carried out the majority of terrorist incidents during this period. Twenty three of the 24 recorded terrorist incidents were perpetrated by domestic terrorists. With the exception of a white supremacistÆs firebombing of a synagogue in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, all of the domestic terrorist incidents were committed by special interest extremists active in the animal rights and environmental movements.
http://articles.cnn.com/2005-05-19/us/domestic.terrorism_1_animal-rights-huntingdon-animal-cruelty-alf?_s=PM:US
Quote: John Lewis, the FBI's deputy assistant director for counterterrorism, said animal and environmental rights extremists have claimed credit for more than 1,200 criminal incidents since 1990. The FBI has 150 pending investigations associated with animal rights or eco-terrorist activities, and ATF officials say they have opened 58 investigations in the past six years related to violence attributed to the ELF and ALF.
From 2008:
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2008/june/ecoterror_063008
Quote: Together, eco-terrorists and animal rights extremists are one of the most serious domestic terrorism threats in the U.S. todayàfor several good reasons: *The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979); *The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million since 1979); *The wide range of victims (from international corporations to lumber companies to animal testing facilities to genetic research firms); and *Their increasingly violent rhetoric and tactics (one recent communiquT sent to a California product testing company said: ôYou might be able to protect your buildings, but can you protect the homes of every employee?ö).
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html
Quote: "It remains what we would probably consider the No. 1 domestic terrorism threat, because they have successfully continued to conduct different types of attacks in and around the country," said FBI Special Agent Richard Kolko.
There's also a fantastic pie chart that the FBI published that I will post when I find it. It shows terrorism in the US, sliced by group. Right wing is a tiny little slice. Left wing/environ/animal a massive slice. I really should have that one saved for people in denial like you. 
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:45:00 -
[30]
Quote: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html
Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.
Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.
|
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:46:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Quote: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html
Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.
Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.

I put that there because I knew you would only see that and totally ignore the FBI and CNN. Predictable left wing tool.  
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:49:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:49:36
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Quote: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html
Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.
Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.

I put that there because I knew you would only see that and totally ignore the FBI and CNN. Predictable left wing tool.  
SO, decades-long terrorism campeigns from the right < three years of terroist activities from the left?
I fail to see a correlary stating the right is any less a threat to national security. But, if you're one of the champs who is pro-life, anti-evolution, and wants the 10 commandments in every courthouse in the country, I can certainly understand why you would think so. After all, they're on your side.
|

Jaci Johanna
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:52:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
SO, decades-long terrorism campeigns from the right < three years of terroist activities from the left?
Quote: *The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979); *The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million since 1979);
Drrr, hooked on phonics didn't work for you did it?
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:56:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:56:47 The OK City building alone cost more that 110m, so uh.. where'd those bull**** numbers come from?
|

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 21:57:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:49:36
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Quote: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,343768,00.html
Foot in mouth defense, followed by Faux news article.
Classic righty whack-job. I weep for your wasted intellect.

I put that there because I knew you would only see that and totally ignore the FBI and CNN. Predictable left wing tool.  
SO, decades-long terrorism campeigns from the right < three years of terroist activities from the left?
I fail to see a correlary stating the right is any less a threat to national security. But, if you're one of the champs who is pro-life, anti-evolution, and wants the 10 commandments in every courthouse in the country, I can certainly understand why you would think so. After all, they're on your side.
The far right is responsible for quite a lot of nasty things, but the right never supported enemies of the state, something the left does quite often. Just because of that the right is less threat to NATIONAL security. Doesn't mean that far right extremists should not be hunted down, they are just less of a threat than far left and their jihadist friends.
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:02:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 22:03:46
Originally by: Estephania The far right is responsible for quite a lot of nasty things, but the right never supported enemies of the state, something the left does quite often. Just because of that the right is less threat to NATIONAL security. Doesn't mean that far right extremists should not be hunted down, they are just less of a threat than far left and their jihadist friends.
I don't condone either myself, but I think you allow the right too much leeway. Pat Robertson has publicly advocated violence against left interests and individuals in the past as have many far right political figures, even if they claim to be doing so "metaphorically," (see Palin's crazed fan shooting AZ rep).
The only thing that seperates PITA's militants from the Neo-****s and Christian extremeists is their targets. Both are ideologically defunct, morally bankrupt, and deserve to be executed in a public place.
|

Omara Otawan
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:07:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Omara Otawan on 22/07/2011 22:08:28
Originally by: Jaci Johanna
Quote: *The sheer volume of their crimes (over 2,000 since 1979); *The huge economic impact (losses of more than $110 million since 1979);
Wow, a whole $110 million in 30 years?
That surely makes the Oklahoma bombings with 165 killed, over 700 injured and $15 million just in direct bomb damage pale in comparison. 
I'd wager that counting indirect damage that single attack cost way over $110 million.
Why do I get the feeling that these days every hoodrat tagging "**** the system" on a phone booth gets labeled as terrorism?
|

DemetRYS
Deep Core Mining Inc.
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:15:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
The only thing that seperates PITA's militants from the Neo-****s and Christian extremeists is their targets. Both are ideologically defunct, morally bankrupt, and deserve to be executed in a public place.
+1
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:21:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:21:10
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Wow, a whole $110 million in 30 years?
That surely makes the Oklahoma bombings with 165 killed, over 700 injured and $15 million just in direct bomb damage pale in comparison. 
I'd wager that counting indirect damage that single attack cost way over $110 million.
One isolated terrorist act worth 300m is still only one incident. And if the perpetrators are caught, the threat is likely over.
2000 terrorists acts related by group affiliation, even if they only cause 110m of damage by comparison, is an organized terrorist movement and a active threat to public safety and private property.
And the FBI has finite resources. I doubt they waste their time investigating tagged phoneboothes. 
|

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:23:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:21:10
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Wow, a whole $110 million in 30 years?
That surely makes the Oklahoma bombings with 165 killed, over 700 injured and $15 million just in direct bomb damage pale in comparison. 
I'd wager that counting indirect damage that single attack cost way over $110 million.
One isolated terrorist act worth 300m is still only one incident. And if the perpetrators are caught, the threat is likely over.
2000 terrorists acts related by group affiliation, even if they only cause 110m of damage by comparison, is an organized terrorist movement and a active threat to public safety and private property.
And the FBI has finite resources. I doubt they waste their time investigating tagged phoneboothes. 
How many deaths in those 2000 acts of terrorism?
Slade
:Signature Temporarily Disabled: |
|

dexington
Caldari Baconoration
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:24:00 -
[41]
Originally by: stoicfaux The point is that it could be home grown terrorism. If you automatically jump to "Muslims!", you might be blinding yourself to other threats.
Being muslim has nothing to do with nationality, norwegians can be part of islam just as well as arabs. It's not impossible it's both muslims and terrorists born and raised in norway.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:26:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis (see Palin's crazed fan shooting AZ rep).
Wow, you are just ****ing ignorant of all fact aren't you?
Jared Loughner had a copy of the Communist manifesto and his friends said he would well up in rage at the very mention of George W Bush.
Sounds a lot like you actually. 
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:26:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 22:27:56
Originally by: dexington
Originally by: stoicfaux The point is that it could be home grown terrorism. If you automatically jump to "Muslims!", you might be blinding yourself to other threats.
Being muslim has nothing to do with nationality, norwegians can be part of islam just as well as arabs. It's not impossible it's both muslims and terrorists born and raised in norway.
Did you make his point intentionally?
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis (see Palin's crazed fan shooting AZ rep).
Wow, you are just ****ing ignorant of all fact aren't you?
Jared Loughner had a copy of the Communist manifesto and his friends said he would well up in rage at the very mention of George W Bush.
Sounds a lot like you actually. 
I worked for the Bush administation aswell, he was an idiot, but not a bad man. I wouldn't rage at him so much as present him with free education, given the chance.
And i'm a socialist, not a communist. <3
|

dexington
Caldari Baconoration
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:32:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis Did you make his point intentionally?
As i understood his post, he said that muslims and home grown terrorists are not the same, which is not true by default.
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:33:00 -
[45]
Originally by: dexington
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis Did you make his point intentionally?
As i understood his post, he said that muslims and home grown terrorists are not the same, which is not true by default.
I placed more emphasis on the second sentence, I guess.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:35:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Slade Trillgon [
How many deaths in those 2000 acts of terrorism?
I've never read anything about related deaths, but any time you set fire to a building you risk the lives of the first responders.
If you go by number of deaths, Islamic terror comes out on top for the United States. If you go by sheer volume of attacks, it's radical leftists.
But you also have to look at the goals. The goal of an Islamic terrorist is to maximize body count. The goal of an ELF/ALF member is usually the destruction of property. Both are very successful at what they intend to do. Obviously radicalized Muslims are a greater threat to your personal safety, but that doesn't mean you ignore the threat posed by the others.
|

Omara Otawan
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:39:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Jada Maroo Obviously radicalized Muslims are a greater threat to your personal safety, but that doesn't mean you ignore the threat posed by the others.
Statistically, being struck by lightning is a far bigger threat to my personal safety than both, and given such an event may set my clothes on fire to my property as well.
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:39:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 22:39:49
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Slade Trillgon [
How many deaths in those 2000 acts of terrorism?
I've never read anything about related deaths, but any time you set fire to a building you risk the lives of the first responders.
If you go by number of deaths, Islamic terror comes out on top for the United States. If you go by sheer volume of attacks, it's radical leftists.
But you also have to look at the goals. The goal of an Islamic terrorist is to maximize body count. The goal of an ELF/ALF member is usually the destruction of property. Both are very successful at what they intend to do. Obviously radicalized Muslims are a greater threat to your personal safety, but that doesn't mean you ignore the threat posed by the others.
Good defleciton to forign muslims when we're specifically debating domestic terrorism. Also, exellent re-direct to your NUMBER OF ATTACKS stat which is in no way relevent to the question. Topping it all off with the islam scare tactics... icing on the cake.
10/10
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:42:00 -
[49]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:42:20
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Statistically, being struck by lightning is a far bigger threat to my personal safety than both, and given such an event may set my clothes on fire to my property as well.
 
You know, I thought about qualifying that statement because I knew someone would say exactly that. I'm talking about the realm of terrorist acts, obviously, but yes, both are unlikely to happen to you.
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:47:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 22:42:20
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Statistically, being struck by lightning is a far bigger threat to my personal safety than both, and given such an event may set my clothes on fire to my property as well.
 
You know, I thought about qualifying that statement because I knew someone would say exactly that. I'm talking about the realm of terrorist acts, obviously, but yes, both are unlikely to happen to you.
But but.. the ralicalized boogey-muslim... he's in my closet!
|
|

Omara Otawan
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 22:54:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Omara Otawan on 22/07/2011 22:55:55
Originally by: Jada Maroo
You know, I thought about qualifying that statement because I knew someone would say exactly that. I'm talking about the realm of terrorist acts, obviously, but yes, both are unlikely to happen to you.
The problem I really have with all that is the fact that real threats to my property and safety, i.e. being mugged/stabbed/shot just two blocks from home, are taking a backseat while terrorism, which does not concern me all that much, is blown way out of proportion.
Especially the so-called eco-terrorism, which if we are honest for a seconds is in the large majority of cases just simple vandalism.
|

dexington
Caldari Baconoration
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:08:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Omara Otawan Especially the so-called eco-terrorism, which if we are honest for a seconds is in the large majority of cases just simple vandalism.
terrorism don't mean what it used to, now terrorism is just a label used to remove the basic laws that protect the freedom of most people in the western world.
|

Chepe Nolon
Gallente Inquest
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:24:00 -
[53]
To put this topic dead:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254
This is the guy. His Christian, Conservative, likes MMO and FPS games (WOW and BF) and you could pick on every interest he has and blame the group. He's also part of the Freemasons:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281538_103736456391397_100002651290254_19949_3078284_n.jpg (yes, the same guy).
Muslim terrorist... naaaahh
Chepe Nolon -- http://eve-survival.org |

Takseen
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:28:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
And you won't be alone. When the USA throws out Obama in 2012, the military campaign against violent Muslim groups will once again be a priority.
Obama : Found and killed Osama Bin Laden. Bush : Wandered off into Iraq and completely forgot about Osama. Silly wingnut.
|

Iggy Stooge
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:31:00 -
[55]
There is no evidence to support any of the claims or assumptions made by the OP. Also, he is clearly a dangerously unstable individual, inciting religious hatred and violence. He strikes me as the type who may Go Postal someday, at which point we can all accuse him of being a Muslim terrorist. Unless of course he is a blond haired blue-eyed man, like the person responsible for the attacks in Oslo. Then we would just call him a Republican.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:34:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 23:38:34
Originally by: Chepe Nolon
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254
You know he kinda even looks like Anders from Dragon Age.
I imagine this Anders will get a significantly less severe sentence than I gave the video game one.
|

Benny Hill
Caldari General Thrusters
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:54:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Takseen
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
And you won't be alone. When the USA throws out Obama in 2012, the military campaign against violent Muslim groups will once again be a priority.
Obama : Found and killed Osama Bin Laden. Bush : Wandered off into Iraq and completely forgot about Osama. Silly wingnut.
Obama "found" Bin Laden using the information from interrogation tactics he so despised. He used the working relationship with Pakistan Bush created and operatives in Pakistan that Bush placed there. Obama used SEAL special forces whose level of training, equipment and personnel were vastly expanded by Bush.
Obama does like to remind everyone for years on end what he "inherited."
|

Omara Otawan
|
Posted - 2011.07.22 23:58:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Benny Hill working relationship with Pakistan Bush created
Not sure if you are serious here, but that is pretty much the funniest **** I've read all week.
|

laysha
Amarr GONE RETARD BACK LATER Narwhals Ate My Duck
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 00:00:00 -
[59]
This thread fails so bad.
Norwegian nationalist behind the bombing and shootings
|

Xenuchrist
STK Scientific Rolling Thunder.
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 00:41:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Xenuchrist on 23/07/2011 00:42:22 ITT american rightwing nutjob ****fest after norwegian rightwing nutjob massacres kids at summer camp. (This so compares to "eco-terorrism")
/norwegian drunkard
-- "In human stupidity, when it is not malicious, there is something very touching, even beautiful... There always is." /Tolstoy |
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 00:44:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Jada Maroo Edited by: Jada Maroo on 22/07/2011 23:49:45
Originally by: Chepe Nolon
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254
You know he kinda even looks like Anders from Dragon Age.
I imagine this Anders will get a significantly less severe sentence than I gave the video game one.
BTW, I missed this:
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
And i'm a socialist, not a communist. <3
Not at all surprised. You also implied that you are a federal worker, if I read you correctly. If so, mind telling me what department or agency?
Don't worry, I'm not going to look you up. I just want to know if it'll be a department that shuts down next month.
Hey, don't blame me for being right about this muslim thing being a false lead. 
Also, i'm not going to be shut down unless we close several embassies abroad in a very unexpected manner. And you'll find that it's highly unlikely that I will be evicted by a republican elect either. I've been in my position since GB senior was in office and i'm a very non-partisan person, despite the fact I openly admit to being pro social-responsibility. I'm actually good friends with several republican employees in my office who have similar feelings, but side with the right on other matters. In washington it's mostly shades of grey, despite what out-of-the-loop fundamentalists like yourself want to believe.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 01:18:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Hey, don't blame me for being right about this muslim thing being a false lead. 
You were speculating early on as much as anyone else. I took the odds on favorite, you took a long odds. Every once in a while, the worst bet wins. Doesn't change the fact that almost any other incident like this turns out to be Muslim radicals. You have every right to be a contrarian, but the fact is when people trip over themselves to fill the Muslim apologist role in threads like these, the culprit almost always turns out to be Muslim.
Quote: In washington it's mostly shades of grey, despite what out-of-the-loop fundamentalists like yourself want to believe.
Hate to break it to you, but being a low level parasite on the federal government teet doesn't put you in any loop.
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 01:23:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 23/07/2011 01:25:11 Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 23/07/2011 01:23:37
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
Hey, don't blame me for being right about this muslim thing being a false lead. 
You were speculating early on as much as anyone else. I took the odds on favorite, you took a long odds. Every once in a while, the worst bet wins. Doesn't change the fact that almost any other incident like this turns out to be Muslim radicals. You have every right to be a contrarian, but the fact is when people trip over themselves to fill the Muslim apologist role in threads like these, the culprit almost always turns out to be Muslim.
Quote: In washington it's mostly shades of grey, despite what out-of-the-loop fundamentalists like yourself want to believe.
Hate to break it to you, but being a low level parasite on the federal government teet doesn't put you in any loop.
I'm no apologist. I was simply stating jumping to conclusions in this type of investigation is stupid. Make of that what you will. I disdain organized religion in general so you'd hardly find me in cahoots with any muslim groups, aside from those advocating a peace process within Isreal.
You've clearly got a good bead on me aswell. Keep the ad hominem coming. I rather enjoy basking in your ignorance, but from one forum warrior to another: I think you're trying a little too hard.
Ed: Gotta run out for a bite so i'll be back later to talk more. ~spendin ur tax dollarz~   
|

Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 01:36:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
It is time for Scandinavians to embrace their Viking roots and cast off the pathetic pacifism that only invites more attacks on their own soil. (And the Finns too - it isn't 'Viking' or NATO, but Helsinki could easily be next. Do you want to see dead civilians on Aleksanterinkatu?)
This is the single worst post I've ever seen on these forums. -----
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 01:38:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/07/2011 01:49:01
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis I rather enjoy basking in your ignorance
You mean ignorance like dismissing FBI reports as Fox News propaganda, even when they come from the FBI website?
Or do you mean ignorance as in just learning today that Jared Loughner wasn't a Tea Partier?
Anways, enjoy your paychecks while they last. If there's one good thing about our nation spending its way into financial oblivion, it's that eventually we won't be able to afford wasting dollars on bureaucrats -- or their pensions. I very much look forward to the delicious QQs of federal workers in the coming years.
|

NightmareX
Nomads Nulli Secunda
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 01:54:00 -
[66]
The police conference just reported that 80 peoples are killed on Ut°ya ALONE.
Jesus christ.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 01:59:00 -
[67]
Originally by: NightmareX The police conference just reported that 80 peoples are killed on Ut°ya ALONE.
Jesus christ.
Where is that being reported? I've been talking to a friend in Norway who had a family member at the camp during the shooting, and I'm only hearing 10 dead and "several critical." Hard to say what all his niece saw though but the island looked very small to me.
|

XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:02:00 -
[68]
I love watching the knee jerk reaction of fear saturated individuals. This guy was just sick. The pictures of him gunning down the people at that camp were pretty awful. One guy in the water who tried to hide pleading for his life with about 12 bodies spread around as far as I can count.
|

Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:04:00 -
[69]
Originally by: NightmareX The police conference just reported that 80 peoples are killed on Ut°ya ALONE.
Jesus christ.
That is terrible news.
Originally by: Jada Maroo I very much look forward to the delicious QQs of federal workers in the coming years.
You know, we really should get our own thread going instead of ****ting up this one. 
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:08:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis
You know, we really should get our own thread going instead of ****ting up this one. 
Agreed. Will confine my comments to the event at hand.
|
|

Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:10:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Taedrin on 23/07/2011 02:10:46 n/m ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:26:00 -
[72]
That sound you hear is leftwingers everywhere breathing a big sigh of relief. Here is a non-PC bad guy they can rally around, and really work up a good hate-on against.
Looks like I was wrong this time, the Jihadists were only claiming credit for something they hadn't yet gotten around to doing themselves.
This kind of reminds me of the time I tried to rile up the Poles when their entire political leadership was wiped out in a plane crash in Russia.
Oh well. Made for a fun thread for awhile, as the original one was incredibly dull. 
|

Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:29:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Culmen on 23/07/2011 02:32:20 Ander Behring Breivik
Right Wing Christian Extremist......
Sounds familiar?
Stop jumping to conclusions before any facts were available. And stop mistaking calling out on this, as a claim a non-muslim did it. and further more why do i even need a sig? |

Sofa Raddis
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:32:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Sofa Raddis on 23/07/2011 02:33:54
This is a horrible day, I'm born and raised a stone throw from ut°ya, I have no words for this.
Other then pleading you people to refrain from speculation and fingerpointing long before the damage itself has been adressed, I can't help by getting provoked by some that try to score political points on this (xenophobes, ironically as the nutcase himself), you are truly horrible and need to shut up.
Wilkus I hope you choke on your stupidity.
**** YOU AND YOUR "FUN" THREAD
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:37:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Culmen Ander Behring Breivik
Right Wing Christian Extremist......
Sounds familiar?
Ugh, if you are going to link, please at least use a reputable news site. MSNBC just puked all over my computer screen, and it has all the credibility of a paper hanger.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:43:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Sofa Raddis
Wilkus I hope you choke on your stupidity.
Wilkus made the reasonable assumption given the facts available. Car bombing in a major metro setting and a soft target attack with a purposefully high death toll (very Mumbai-like). For events like this, the culprits are almost always Muslim.
If this one isn't, it's noteworthy.
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:44:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Sofa Raddis Edited by: Sofa Raddis on 23/07/2011 02:33:54
This is a horrible day, I'm born and raised a stone throw from ut°ya, I have no words for this.
Other then pleading you people to refrain from speculation and fingerpointing long before the damage itself has been adressed, I can't help by getting provoked by some that try to score political points on this (xenophobes, ironically as the nutcase himself), you are truly horrible and need to shut up.
Wilkus I hope you choke on your stupidity.
**** YOU AND YOUR "FUN" THREAD
Hey, I didn't stay you couldn't still get angry, just mentally erase some of the names in my post and replace them with new names of your choosing.
Then again, it sounds like you are already there. Congrats!
And, yes, anger is the correct response, especially with this attack that clearly targeted children. Though much like McVeigh, this will probably end up just being the work of a highly motivated, deranged individual - not the ever-present threat that radical Islam presents.
|

Sofa Raddis
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:47:00 -
[78]
Confirming that this is what the norwegian media is also reporting.
ethnic norwegian, right wing xenophobe.
|

Culmen
Caldari Vigrior The Dominion Empire
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:48:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Originally by: Culmen Ander Behring Breivik
Right Wing Christian Extremist......
Sounds familiar?
Ugh, if you are going to link, please at least use a reputable news site. MSNBC just puked all over my computer screen, and it has all the credibility of a paper hanger.
OK MSNBC was just the first one of a long list.
I make it a habit of ignoring Huffington Post/Fox News. But will use it to do additional research.
You can just google Anders Behring Breivik you know. and further more why do i even need a sig? |

Omara Otawan
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:49:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Jada Maroo
Wilkus made the reasonable assumption given the facts available. Car bombing in a major metro setting and a soft target attack with a purposefully high death toll (very Mumbai-like). For events like this, the culprits are almost always Muslim.
If this one isn't, it's noteworthy.
Actually, when government buildings and/or a specific (political or other) group are being targeted, in the western world that is a sure sign of the terrorist being a right/left-wing nutjob.
Since these facts were known with the inital media coverage of the incident, he didnt make a reasonable assumption at all. At least not reasonable for the somewhat educated and non-extremist part of the population.
|
|

Darkon Gatland
Amarr The Alpha Company The Alpha Company Protectorates
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:49:00 -
[81]
I'm reporting this thread for it's insensitive and racist language and the sheer fact it's untrue and disrespectful for the people who have died, most of them children.
Have you no decency?
Shame on all of you who have pointed fingers or generally treated this thread as "fun".
You sicken me.
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:54:00 -
[82]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/07/2011 02:56:56
Originally by: Omara Otawan
Since these facts were known with the inital media coverage of the incident, he didnt make a reasonable assumption at all. At least not reasonable for the somewhat educated and non-extremist part of the population.
There was a lot of speculation at the time (here at least) that the target might have been the office of a newspaper that ran the Mohammed cartoons. I guess they have a presence or a HQ in the area of the blast -- or perhaps not and it was just early inaccurate info.
|

XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:54:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Darkon Gatland I'm reporting this thread for it's insensitive and racist language and the sheer fact it's untrue and disrespectful for the people who have died, most of them children.
Have you no decency?
Shame on all of you who have pointed fingers or generally treated this thread as "fun".
You sicken me.
Welcome to earth, 150,000 people die every day. Some worse than others.
|

Darkon Gatland
Amarr The Alpha Company The Alpha Company Protectorates
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:57:00 -
[84]
Originally by: XIRUSPHERE
Originally by: Darkon Gatland I'm reporting this thread for it's insensitive and racist language and the sheer fact it's untrue and disrespectful for the people who have died, most of them children.
Have you no decency?
Shame on all of you who have pointed fingers or generally treated this thread as "fun".
You sicken me.
Welcome to earth, 150,000 people die every day. Some worse than others.
And you think they should all be laughed at or used to attack other people on the Earth?
|

Sofa Raddis
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 02:59:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
Hey, I didn't stay you couldn't still get angry, just mentally erase some of the names in my post and replace them with new names of your choosing.
Do you think we are stupid? I know what you're trying to do here, your condemning of "international terrorism" and so forth has a very clear purpose, those kids haven't even gotten medical attention before someone tries to "rally" us to their cause.
I suggest you mentally erase your feeling of superiority, you mental midget.
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:01:00 -
[86]
Not disputing the facts on the ground - that this now appears to be a lone-wolf activist attack, but its tiring when the same people that complain about 'fauxnews' have no problem linking up to MSNBC.
Find it somewhat interesting that they even have far right-wingers in Scandinavia. As far as I could tell from my annual trips up to Tromso, Norway doesn't even have 'hate radio' and 'Foxnews' to brainwash people into perpetrating acts of mindless violence.
|

Sofa Raddis
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:07:00 -
[87]
Clueless right wingers are everywhere, even on gaming forums, now shut up.
|

Zenith Intaki
Gallente University of Caille
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:08:00 -
[88]
KILL THE MOTHER F U C K I N G N A Z I S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|

ChaeDoc II
Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:26:00 -
[89]
Tragic that people are killed and i truely feel so bad for them.
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
More details are trickling out, but its quite clear that Muslim terrorists launched these attacks against the leftist Norwegian PM and a simultaneous shooting attack against defenseless children.
Grieving for those killed is normal, but grief is not the correct response to this outrage. It is time for righteous anger.
Norwegians leftists can give out Peace Prizes to terrorists and Muslim apologists if they like, but force is the only language these 'people' understand. US Special Forces killed Osama bin Laden, but he was only one of thousands. They ALL must be rooted out and destroyed, or these fatal attacks against innocents will continue.
It is time for Scandinavians to embrace their Viking roots and cast off the pathetic pacifism that only invites more attacks on their own soil. (And the Finns too - it isn't 'Viking' or NATO, but Helsinki could easily be next. Do you want to see dead civilians on Aleksanterinkatu?)
What can you do? Norway has half a trillion dollars in their Oljefondet. Call your MPs and encourage them to invest it in increased defense spending. Support candidates that discourage immigration from radical Muslim countries.
And you won't be alone. When the USA throws out Obama in 2012, the military campaign against violent Muslim groups will once again be a priority.
Now is not the time to 'turn the other cheek' or blame the victims. 
That said you look like a complete fool.
|

ChaeDoc II
Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:38:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 22/07/2011 21:56:47 The OK City building alone cost more that 110m, so uh.. where'd those bull**** numbers come from?
Pretty sure the $110m was relating to only eco-terrorism and Animal rights terrorism. To my knowledge Tim McVeigh didn't blow up that building because of mice or trees.
|
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:46:00 -
[91]
Wow. Now they are posting on Drudge Report that 80 people have been killed, far more than the original estimate of 17.
This makes me think that Norway should seriously consider two things:
A) reinstate the death penalty, like yesterday. B) introduce CCW (concealed carry weapon) permits for Norwegian citizens. Had a few of the adult chaperons been armed, that island may not have not turned into the death trap it became.
|

ChaeDoc II
Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:54:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
That sound you hear is leftwingers everywhere breathing a big sigh of relief. Here is a non-PC bad guy they can rally around, and really work up a good hate-on against.
Looks like I was wrong this time, the Jihadists were only claiming credit for something they hadn't yet gotten around to doing themselves.
This kind of reminds me of the time I tried to rile up the Poles when their entire political leadership was wiped out in a plane crash in Russia.
Oh well. Made for a fun thread for awhile, as the original one was incredibly dull. 
You can almost taste the backpedaling.
|

ChaeDoc II
Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:57:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus Wow. Now they are posting on Drudge Report that 80 people have been killed, far more than the original estimate of 17.
This makes me think that Norway should seriously consider two things:
A) reinstate the death penalty, like yesterday. B) introduce CCW (concealed carry weapon) permits for Norwegian citizens. Had a few of the adult chaperons been armed, that island may not have not turned into the death trap it became.
Norway has been an extremely peaceful country for many many decades, only a reactionary nut like you would think it's a good idea for a country of millions to change so radically based on the actions of one man on one day.
How are CCW permits and the death penalty working for the United States in combating gun crime?
Fool.
|

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 03:58:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Tobias Sjodin on 23/07/2011 03:59:13
Originally by: Herr Wilkus Wow. Now they are posting on Drudge Report that 80 people have been killed, far more than the original estimate of 17.
This makes me think that Norway should seriously consider two things:
A) reinstate the death penalty, like yesterday. B) introduce CCW (concealed carry weapon) permits for Norwegian citizens. Had a few of the adult chaperons been armed, that island may not have not turned into the death trap it became.
80 on the island. 17 in the explosion.
... and no, more people with guns with the potential to kill is not the solution
HABIT
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 04:05:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Jada Maroo on 23/07/2011 04:14:06
Originally by: ChaeDoc II
How are CCW permits and the death penalty working for the United States in combating gun crime?
Fool.
CCL holders are the least likely perpetrators of crime among measured groups, at least here in Texas. 14 times less likely to commit a crime than the general public.
Also, somewhat related, somewhat not: Dunno how accurate the info is, but my Norwegian friend says that the gun used was a military issued AK-47. I didn't know Norway used the AK, but since he was in the Norwegian army himself, I'll take his word for it.
|

stoicfaux
Gallente
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 04:13:00 -
[96]
So my takeaway from the 'debate' is that it's
a) okay to jump to conclusions and immediately assume that Muslims are behind any terrorist attack, and
b) that there's no need to apologize for erroneously making blanket, incendiary comments/accusations against Muslims in general because Muslims are almost 'always' behind terror attacks anyway.
Classy.
----- CCP's NeX Pricing Tiers Affordable: One PLEX Mid: 3-4 PLEX Deluxe: Only for "flamboyantly rich capsuleers" Exceptional: ?? |

XIRUSPHERE
Gallente The 8th Order
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 04:17:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Darkon Gatland
Originally by: XIRUSPHERE
Originally by: Darkon Gatland I'm reporting this thread for it's insensitive and racist language and the sheer fact it's untrue and disrespectful for the people who have died, most of them children.
Have you no decency?
Shame on all of you who have pointed fingers or generally treated this thread as "fun".
You sicken me.
Welcome to earth, 150,000 people die every day. Some worse than others.
And you think they should all be laughed at or used to attack other people on the Earth?
Emotionally charged and silly assumption and utterly incorrect, try some reading comprehension.
|

Blacksquirrel
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 04:18:00 -
[98]
Originally by: stoicfaux So my takeaway from the 'debate' is that it's
a) okay to jump to conclusions and immediately assume that Muslims are behind any terrorist attack, and
b) that there's no need to apologize for erroneously making blanket, incendiary comments/accusations against Muslims in general because Muslims are almost 'always' behind terror attacks anyway.
Classy.
lol it had to be them... Or someone else.
I mean it was practically a 1 in 10 guess right?
|

Jada Maroo
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 04:21:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Blacksquirrel
I mean it was practically a 1 in 10 guess right?
More like a 9 out of 10 chance really. 
|

Tobias Sjodin
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 04:46:00 -
[100]
Originally by: stoicfaux So my takeaway from the 'debate' is that it's
a) okay to jump to conclusions and immediately assume that Muslims are behind any terrorist attack, and
b) that there's no need to apologize for erroneously making blanket, incendiary comments/accusations against Muslims in general because Muslims are almost 'always' behind terror attacks anyway.
Classy.
Dude, you should've seen the soccer facebook page after USA lost to Japan... the world is full of filth, scum and trash that will take any opportunity they get to spit out their bile.
HABIT
|
|

mama guru
Gallente Thundercats B O R G
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 06:14:00 -
[101]
This stuff nefer works:
Originally by: Herr Wilkus A) reinstate the death penalty, like yesterday. B) introduce CCW (concealed carry weapon) permits for Norwegian citizens. Had a few of the adult chaperons been armed, that island may not have not turned into the death trap it became.
Secondly the guy was a white christian, not a muslim. However it's unknown if he was the man behind the bombings but he just made himself responsible for the worst shooting spree in recorded history.
****ing unbeliveable, this guy just killed more people than the rest of Norway do in one year. _________ EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |

Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 06:51:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus
More details are trickling out, but its quite clear that Muslim terrorists launched these attacks against the leftist Norwegian PM and a simultaneous shooting attack against defenseless children.
Grieving for those killed is normal, but grief is not the correct response to this outrage. It is time for righteous anger.
Norwegians leftists can give out Peace Prizes to terrorists and Muslim apologists if they like, but force is the only language these 'people' understand. US Special Forces killed Osama bin Laden, but he was only one of thousands. They ALL must be rooted out and destroyed, or these fatal attacks against innocents will continue.
It is time for Scandinavians to embrace their Viking roots and cast off the pathetic pacifism that only invites more attacks on their own soil. (And the Finns too - it isn't 'Viking' or NATO, but Helsinki could easily be next. Do you want to see dead civilians on Aleksanterinkatu?)
What can you do? Norway has half a trillion dollars in their Oljefondet. Call your MPs and encourage them to invest it in increased defense spending. Support candidates that discourage immigration from radical Muslim countries.
And you won't be alone. When the USA throws out Obama in 2012, the military campaign against violent Muslim groups will once again be a priority.
Now is not the time to 'turn the other cheek' or blame the victims. 
How does it feel to be known as a racist ******* who used someone else's tragedy to promote their ignorant, harmful political agenda?
If you have any sense, you'll never post here again
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |

Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 06:53:00 -
[103]
Posting after Malcanis because he's right. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
|

Herr Wilkus
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 07:06:00 -
[104]
Haha, whatever. Muslim isn't a race. There are black Muslims, asian Muslims, indian Muslims, white Muslims. So **** off about racism Malcanis.
On CCW (concealed carry) in Norway: I think there are a lot of dead people on that island that wished they were armed - or at least someone other than the killer was. One or two adults with a sidearm may or may not have stopped the gunman - but may have turned a slaughter into a mere standoff at least until police arrived.
|

Omara Otawan
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 07:11:00 -
[105]
Still not done fleecing the dead I see... 
|

Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 07:14:00 -
[106]
Looks like this guy is a blessing for leftists all over the world. Finally someone who can be easily reported and hated without the risk of angering the political correctness crowd. "Look - he's European. Look, he's Norwegian. Look - he's Christian". Muslim terrorism is just a lie invented by right wing racists". It was funny to look at French PC papers a couple of years ago when Muslim youth were burning down neighborhoods and the word "Muslim" was left out of the papers not to anger the community. But should it be some Christian nutjob's work and we'd see "Christian far-right extremism" all over the news.
Besides that Islam is not a race, get that in your heads ffs. Muslim extremist can be an Arab as well as he can be a German. And being anti-Islam doesn't make you a racist as there's no such race. Stop pretending all religions are the same. Like I can say that Christianity is more aggressive than, say, Shintoism and no one will jump out and call me a racist, I have the same right to say that Islam is the most aggressive of 3 major religions, especially if there is a ton and a half of evidence worldwide to support it. But bashing Christianity is something the left happily allows, while criticizing anything Islam related will make you to be called a "fascist" and a "racist".
|

Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 07:40:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Estephania Looks like this guy is a blessing for leftists all over the world.
Do you ever look back at your posts and think "Oh wow".
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |

RiskyFrisky
Interrobang Inc.
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 07:46:00 -
[108]
The bomber/shooter was a farmer...a white European, right wing extremist.
Why do people automatically assume the people behind these terror plots are Muslim? Kind of ignorant.
|

Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 08:08:00 -
[109]
I'm usually one for justice and the rule of law but why on earth did they take this ****head alive?
|

Takseen
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 08:10:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Benny Hill
Obama "found" Bin Laden using the information from interrogation tactics he so despised. He used the working relationship with Pakistan Bush created and operatives in Pakistan that Bush placed there. Obama used SEAL special forces whose level of training, equipment and personnel were vastly expanded by Bush.
Obama does like to remind everyone for years on end what he "inherited."
Senator McCain disagrees with you about the torture part, he said the information they needed came from standard interrogation tactics. And the CIA director pointed out that tortured detainees gave false information, and that Bin Laden's courier and Bin Laden himself were found via "other intelligence means", including wiretapping. And its not like Obama wasn't a fan of special ops. He was the one who decided to send in special forces rather than just bombing the compound and hoping they killed Osama.
Bush made some good moves. Invading Afghanistan, expanding the role of special ops, forming an alliance with Pakistan. Those were all sensible ways to go after Al Qaeda terrorists. The invasion of Iraq, much less so. Obama put even more focus on the Afghanistan mission and the search for Bin Laden. How can that possibly tie in with Herr Wilkus's claim that he hasn't made the campaign against violent Muslim groups a priority?
|
|

Takseen
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 08:12:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Jhagiti Tyran I'm usually one for justice and the rule of law but why on earth did they take this ****head alive?
Aside from those being the rules? Atleast this way they can try and find out why he did it, and whether he has any friends with similar plans.
|

Yoa Loother
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 08:12:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin
Originally by: Herr Wilkus B) introduce CCW (concealed carry weapon) permits for Norwegian citizens. Had a few of the adult chaperons been armed, that island may not have not turned into the death trap it became.
... and no, more people with guns with the potential to kill is not the solution
Actually once even a blind chicken with a fist up his behind like Wilkus can find a true grain.
Allowing responsible citizens to be armed just like the criminals and crazies IS the only real solution to the amok problem.
But liberal numbnuts like you are just as impervious to logic as the right-wing-wacos. _ .. darn |

ChaeDoc II
Gallente Sigillum Militum Xpisti Important Internet Spaceship League
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 08:26:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Herr Wilkus Haha, whatever. Muslim isn't a race. There are black Muslims, asian Muslims, indian Muslims, white Muslims. So **** off about racism Malcanis.
Do people actually think that this defence works? If you meet a muslim he's most likely to be middle easters, for sure he'm almost certainly not white, so the 'racist' charge is a fair one.
|
|

CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance

|
Posted - 2011.07.23 08:29:00 -
[114]
Our condolences to the victums, but political discussions are not allowed on our forums, nor is hateful and offensive speech.
Thread locked.
Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online |
|

Commander Imran
|
Posted - 2011.07.23 08:32:00 -
[115]
Originally by: RiskyFrisky The bomber/shooter was a farmer...a white European, right wing extremist.
Why do people automatically assume the people behind these terror plots are Muslim? Kind of ignorant.
People accept everything they hear on the news so they can hate on said group, be it anti-islamists or atheists.
If the people who the news claim to be Christian/Muslim actually practiced their religions their wouldn't be any bombings or attacks.
As usual it's just a minority group who's leader has twisted the words of their holy book and their religious teachings to justify said attack.
|
|
|
|
Pages: 1 2 3 4 :: [one page] |