EVE Search - Incarna - No new players for CCP?

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Incarna - No new players for CCP?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] :: one page

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Fix Lag	Posted - 2011.07.26 01:40:00 - [121] The problem with people who've quit is they can't post on the forums afterwards to prove that they did. Fix Lag!
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2011.07.26 01:55:00 - [122] Originally by: Abriael VonRosen Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 25/07/2011 23:29:05 Originally by: MaiLina KaTar No they're not. Cut the bull***, dude. They're both games like all others. I know it's irritating ... blablabla... totally not getting the point... blablabla Alright. I bow before thee, my marketing expert teacher who knows everything there is to know about gaming. Bestow me with thy supreme knowledge and wisdom! Incarna is totally* launching Eve in the right direction. We should all rejoice and praise CCP from now on! It is clearly without fault and new players are joining in droves to enjoy the technical supremacy that is Captain's Quarters!
Wreckar	Posted - 2011.07.26 02:15:00 - [123] Originally by: MaiLina KaTar Incarna is totally launching Eve in the right direction. We should all rejoice and praise CCP from now on! It is clearly without fault and new players are joining in droves to enjoy the technical supremacy that is Captain's Quarters! +1
Alexei Bourkov Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.26 02:27:00 - [124] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Sieges I have not seen a population drop. I have. Where's the graph pulled from? What's the original source of data? Who compiled it? Anybody can put a bull** graph together. You need a link with cited sources and "proof". _____________ There's only room for one of us in New Eden. You'd best be scanning down a wormhole.**
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.07.26 03:18:00 - [125] Originally by: Kin Netics You are not addressing the obvious "It's summer". Originally by: Kin Netics ITS FREAKING SUMMER BRO! Originally by: baltec1 Welcome to the yearly summer slowdown. No. Summers have historically shown increased participation as a summer patch coincides with people going on vacation, which then slows down as vacations come to an end and as the autum terms begin. Originally by: Abriael VonRosen Actually all summer expansins didn't perform as well as the rest, which is only natural. As the poster above me said Incarna pretty much follows the common trend. Not quite. Incarna showed an immediate and severe reduction of players, unlike previous summers, where the population has increased during the same period. Originally by: Abriael VonRosen The dip in numbers after incarna is very small and can easily be chalked to the usual summer dip No it can't because EVE does not have a "usual summer dip". The actual dip comes in August, and unlike Tyrannis, Incursion did not create a spike in activity ù it actually killed a spike that was building up. So let's get this straight once and for all: Incarna did something no other patch has done ù it failed to produce the normal summer spike. One was building, as normal, but Incarna stopped it dead in its tracks. Originally by: Alexei Bourkov Where's the graph pulled from? What's the original source of data? Who compiled it? I compiled it from daily peak onine user statistics as published by CCP's own API. As you can see, Incarna has been an unmitigated disaster. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Wreckar	Posted - 2011.07.26 03:29:00 - [126] So what happens when CCP removes a bunch of bots?
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2011.07.26 03:31:00 - [127] Originally by: Tippia I compiled it from daily peak onine user statistics as published by CCP's own API. As you can see, Incarna has been an unmitigated disaster. What... you mean you actually looked at reality when putting this together? That's despicable. Eugh!
dexington Caldari Baconoration	Posted - 2011.07.26 04:05:00 - [128] Edited by: dexington on 26/07/2011 04:06:40 Not all curves are pretty Logged-in Players (rolling averages) Bloodlines 2006 to Incarna 2011
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.07.26 04:39:00 - [129] Originally by: Wreckar So what happens when CCP removes a bunch of bots? The same thing that happened in 2009. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Mallak Azaria Three 6 MaFiA KRYSIS.	Posted - 2011.07.26 05:37:00 - [130] Originally by: MaiLina KaTar WoW is the most successful MMOG ever made. Why? Because it has great gameplay. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh wait, you were being serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. ================================================== I love and hate 0.0 these days and feel CCP is taking a big **** on my chest every time i see super carriers. ~Tipsy McStagger

Pesky LaRue Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.07.26 05:45:00 - [131] Originally by: Mallak Azaria Originally by: MaiLina KaTar WoW is the most successful MMOG ever made. Why? Because it has great gameplay. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh wait, you were being serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Playing Devil's Advocate (as I hated the game), WoW is the most successful MMOG in terms of subscriber count (if you believe Blizzard, at least) and it kind of follows that the most successful MMOG to date is success as it has - to that playerbase, at least - great gameplay. no? oh, to hell with it. rabble rabble. where's my pitchfork. .
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2011.07.26 12:06:00 - [132] Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 26/07/2011 12:10:33 Originally by: Mallak Azaria Originally by: MaiLina KaTar WoW is the most successful MMOG ever made. Why? Because it has great gameplay. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh wait, you were being serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 10+ million subscribers. Nuff said. Go f* yourself. The game is technically far ahead of Eve, it's well balanced and caters to its target audience just fine. It is the most successful MMOG to date. Of course you can always choose to ignore reality like the rest of deluded wackos around here. Your choice. You don't have to like WoW. I know I don't. But that doesn't change reality.
Sandrestal	Posted - 2011.07.26 13:21:00 - [133] There is a old saying in business..."If you ain't growing, you're dying"
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.07.26 13:23:00 - [134] Originally by: Sandrestal There is a old saying in business..."If you ain't growing, you're dying" Could be a proverb of cancer.
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2011.07.26 13:26:00 - [135] Originally by: dexington Edited by: dexington on 26/07/2011 04:06:40 Not all curves are pretty Logged-in Players (rolling averages) Bloodlines 2006 to Incarna 2011 Too bad that post is gonna drown away.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai Amarr	Posted - 2011.07.26 13:31:00 - [136] Originally by: MaiLina KaTar The game (WoW) is technically far ahead of Eve Thanks for making my day.
Moon Shadowfall	Posted - 2011.07.26 13:32:00 - [137] Originally by: MaiLina KaTar The game is technically far ahead of Eve, it's well balanced Giggle..well-balanced..giggle...laugh..hahahahahaha...<milk spews out nose>. WHen was it balanced?
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.26 14:46:00 - [138] Originally by: G 0 D I am full of ** Quote:** I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. One moment where they listen less to words than actions. Not we don't listen to what they say. If you can't understand that you really are daft. If you can understand it then you need to STFU and deal with it. The e-mail WAS condescending, which is what the real problem was. If you want to cry about that start a new thread and cry about that. But don't start a troll thread full of bull**** misconceptions.
Abriael VonRosen Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.26 17:08:00 - [139] Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 26/07/2011 17:10:06 Originally by: Tippia [No. Summers have historically shown increased participation as a summer patch coincides with people going on vacation, which then slows down as vacations come to an end and as the autum terms begin. Really now. Really now. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Graph shows quite clearly than the summer dip does happen, and it happens right from the end of of June spanning across July. Oops. Still have to bring me an example of another MMORPG that manages to keep this kind of numbers without much bigger player bleeding after 8 years of activity, by the way. I'm waiting. This of course voids all your other points.
Booby Trap	Posted - 2011.07.26 17:10:00 - [140] Try answering my questions rather than evading them with the use of bull** and mental gymnastics! What sort of company would agree with your claim that losing an amount of customers and gaining a lesser amount of customers is a sucess. Originally by:** Abriael VonRosen The fact that no real big dip is visible means that new players are indeed coming. There is still a dip and, unlike previous expansions, there is no big spike either. You can provide no proof that new players are here. Based on current data, your assumptions are wrong. Originally by: Abriael VonRosen And that's why Incarna exists. A poorly implemented and optimised Expansion will do nothing to attract new players. Originally by: Abriael VonRosen The dip in numbers after incarna is very small and can easily be chalked to the usual summer dip. It is a little early for the traditional summer dip. Please try reading the data herebefore making more statements based on your half arsed assumptions. Originally by: Abriael VonRosen find me a P2P game this old that's able to retain numbers as high as EVE, with this degree of stability, then we'll talk. Stop making ******ed comments, try reading and understanding the data, read CCPs acknowledgement that they are trying to fixthe CQ and accept that people are indeed having hardware issues, accept that people can no longer run multiple clients and that your experience of Incarna is not the same as everyone elses and that these issues affect a lot of paying customers. Or you could just carry on sticking your fingers in your ears shouting La LA LA LA INCARNA IS AWESOME!

Abriael VonRosen Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.26 17:22:00 - [141] Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 26/07/2011 17:24:20 Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 26/07/2011 17:22:27 Originally by: Booby Trap Try answering my questions rather than evading them with the use of bull** and mental gymnastics! oh but I did. Not necessarily the answer you want to hear, in your biased attitude, but that's life. Quote: What sort of company would agree with your claim that losing an amount of customers and gaining a lesser amount of customers is a sucess. A company that's providing a subscription-based 8 years old product in the face of competition that becomes fiercer every year and doesn't have a big customer bleedout, for instance. Quote: There is still a dip and, unlike previous expansions, there is no big spike either. You can provide no proof that new players are here. Based on current data, your assumptions are wrong. The dip is small, and the spike is very visible. As per the graph provided in the post above. Quote: A poorly implemented and optimised Expansion will do nothing to attract new players. It sure lays the foundation for allowing such a thing to happen. You may have not noticed, but one of the worst problems EVE had at expanding it's customerbase was the absence of a real customizable avatar. MMORPGs are hedonistic experiences and Most MMORPG players want to play characters, not ships that look the same for everyone. Quote: It is a little early for the traditional summer dip. Please try reading the data herebefore making more statements based on your half arsed assumptions. I tend to get my own sources. The graph above (which shows the all-time data on a larger scale, and as such is quite apt at noticing general trends)shows quite clearly that the summer dip happens exactly as it happened this year. Quote: Originally by:** Abriael VonRosen find me a P2P game this old that's able to retain numbers as high as EVE, with this degree of stability, then we'll talk. Stop making ****ed comments, try reading and understanding the data, read CCPs acknowledgement that they are trying to fixthe CQ and accept that people are indeed having hardware issues, accept that people can no longer run multiple clients and that your experience of Incarna is not the same as everyone elses and that these issues affect a lot of paying customers. Oh, but you didn't answer my question at all. How comes? Anyone with a brain would understand that running multiple clients on outdated computers of any game with current graphics isn't going to happen. This isn't a good reason to hold the game back. Want to run multiple clients? Get a top of the line PC, or get a second cheaper one. They may be trying to optimize more, but don't expect them to remove incarna because you want to run 34 pilots at once and don't expect to run multiple clients in the future on your grandma's laptop, no matter how much optimization is done. Quote:** Or you could just carry on sticking your fingers in your ears shouting La LA LA LA INCARNA IS AWESOME! yes, because someone that disagree with you is of course sticking his fingers in his ears. Ah, trolls.
Booby Trap	Posted - 2011.07.26 17:32:00 - [142] Originally by: Abriael VonRosen BULL**** CCP hire this guy.
Abriael VonRosen Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.26 17:35:00 - [143] Originally by: Booby Trap Originally by: Abriael VonRosen BULL** CCP hire this guy. No thanks, I like sunny Italy, i'll leave Iceland to the ones that really, really need a job. "bull**" is not an answer, by the way.
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.07.26 17:42:00 - [144] Edited by: Tippia on 26/07/2011 17:43:05 Originally by: Abriael VonRosen Really now. Really now. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility Graph shows quite clearly than the summer dip does happen, and it happens right from the end of of June spanning across July. Oops. This year, yes. Previous years, no. The difference? This year, Incarna was released at the end of June and killed the building summer peak. Tyrannis looks like it was different because it created a huge peak at patch release, but the summer bump compared to the spring before it is readily apparent. The summer after Apocrypha looks different because several thousand 23/7 bots were kicked out ù adjust the curve for them and you see a rise over the summer months. So yes, really, the whole ôsummer slumpö thing is just a myth, and Incarna shows a drastically different (and very alarming) development than any other patch before it.
Abriael VonRosen Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.26 18:53:00 - [145] Edited by: Abriael VonRosen on 26/07/2011 18:54:21 Originally by: Tippia This year, yes. Previous years, no. The difference? This year, Incarna was released at the end of June and killed the building summer peak. Tyrannis looks like it was different because it created a huge peak at patch release, but the summer bump compared to the spring before it is readily apparent. The summer after Apocrypha looks different because several thousand 23/7 bots were kicked out ù adjust the curve for them and you see a rise over the summer months. So yes, really, the whole ôsummer slumpö thing is just a myth, and Incarna shows a drastically different (and very alarming) development than any other patch before it. hey look, someone's trying to warp reality. Last year: summer dip very isible between the beginning of july and the beginning of august. 2 years ago: Huge dip. Nice excuse with the ban of bots, but that's a tad of a weak one. Funny to see someone trying to argue against something that happens in every online game out there since online gaming's inception. The only alarming thing about incarna is that it shows how hostile a certain part of the EVE community is to change. Though luck though, change doesn't stop for anyone. By the way, you're still very conveniently forgetting to name one P2P mmorpg that after 8 years is going as strong as EVE, with this kind of subscriber stability. Come on, since you think CCP is so bad i'm suuuuure you'll have plenty examples right? -- Abriael Contributing Writer - DualShockers.com
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.07.26 19:21:00 - [146] Edited by: Tippia on 26/07/2011 19:25:36 Originally by: Abriael VonRosen Last year: summer dip very isible between the beginning of july and the beginning of august. Last year: end of summer higher than the spring; middle of summer higher than the end. Quote: 2 years ago: Huge dip. àa dip of ~5,000 players, just the same as the number of bots booted, which happened at the exact time as when that number of bots were booted. If you want to call the truth "weak"à well, that actually explains a lot about what you're trying to say. Quote: The only alarming thing about incarna is àhow it did something no other patch has done: it has killed a peak that was clearly beginning to build at a time when such peak normally evolve. Quote: By the way, you're still very conveniently forgetting to name one P2P mmorpg that after 8 years is going as strong as EVE So what? That only shows how abysmal Incarna is since it breaks that streak like a iron bar to the shins. EVE has been able to grow even over the summers, except after Incarna. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP
Tal Rann	Posted - 2011.07.26 19:21:00 - [147] Hell boy, I don't know what you saying but here when they nerf the dramiel my two accounts are going stone cold. Seems the big boys who play with their toys don't like the little D cause it's too fast and funky for them to handle. They get to play all by themlonesomes in 0.0
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.26 19:31:00 - [148] looks like a <2% change. Drastic indeed. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Mallak Azaria Three 6 MaFiA KRYSIS.	Posted - 2011.07.27 11:38:00 - [149] Originally by: MaiLina KaTar Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 26/07/2011 12:10:33 Originally by: Mallak Azaria Originally by: MaiLina KaTar WoW is the most successful MMOG ever made. Why? Because it has great gameplay. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh wait, you were being serious? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. 10+ million subscribers. Nuff said. Quality over quantity. Enough said. ================================================== I love and hate 0.0 these days and feel CCP is taking a big **** on my chest every time i see super carriers. ~Tipsy McStagger


Pages: 1 2 3 4 [5] :: one page
First page \| Previous page \| Next page \| Last page

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.