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Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 16:11:00 - [1] Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays. We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there! Looking forward to it, Sec
Llambda Space Llama Industries	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:11:00 - [2] Edited by: Llambda on 31/07/2011 17:11:39 Nobody cares about your petty ****-waving. Try CAOD.
Dirk Magnum Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:13:00 - [3] It is a fair fight. One possible scenario is that the BCs drop like rocks under fire from 18 cruisers (they will), and then the remaining HACs have to square off alone against the remaining cruiser fleet. The mortality rate among the HACs will be high. End result, BC/HAC fleet defeats cruiser fleet but at a much higher ISK loss to their own side. If the FCing sucks on the BC/HAC side it's not inconceivable that they'd lose the fight completely. Your mistake was thinking people want to fight fair.
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:19:00 - [4] Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:34:00 - [5] Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 17:37:22 Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays. We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there! Looking forward to it, Sec I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count. It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then) Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's Learn 2 count..
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:44:00 - [6] Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:47:22 Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays. We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there! Looking forward to it, Sec I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count. It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then) Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's Learn 2 count.. There were definitely more than 5 BCs mate. Also there was a Lachesis and a couple of HACs as well. The hilarious part is that you guys deigned not to engage not because of our numbers, but because we were in "arty ruptures" which could alpha past logistics, apparently. Despite the fact that you had no logistics. This is not even counting the fact that 2 Canes alone have the DPS of 6 Ruptures by themselves and the EHP of 4 ruptures (at least.)
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:44:12 Originally by: Mutnin Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 17:37:22 Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays. We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there! Looking forward to it, Sec I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count. It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then) Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's Learn 2 count.. There were definitely more than 5 BCs mate. Also there was a Lachesis and a couple of HACs as well. The hilarious part is that you guys deigned not to engage not because of our numbers, but because we were in "arty ruptures" which could alpha past logistics, apparently. Despite the fact that you had no logistics. If you are talking about last night in F7C then this is all we had other than the 2 ceptors.. http://bdeal.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=38811 We killed your bait Myrm & tried to kill the Drake but you guys spiked local with 15 or 20 so we ran away.. Think you guys caught a Vaga & Drake or something.
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:48:00 - [8] We had no bait myrm or drake. ;)
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.07.31 17:57:00 - [9] Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 18:04:24 Originally by: Securitas Protector We had no bait myrm or drake. ;) oh nm that was Bdeal that came in shortly after you guys with 15 or so BC's.. Well, regardless you can look and see what we had. There sure wasn't any Lach's nor did we have 15 BC's. This is all we had at the peak of that lil gang last night.. (9 ships 5 of which were BC's and no logi) It was likely less than that by the time you guys rolled through, because we had 1 or 2 guys leave early on. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13922634 edit, I take it back we had a Lach early on but he was 1st guy to leave and was gone long b4 you guys showed up. I assume your scout didn't keep accurate numbers count as time progressed, because we bled off a few guys pretty early on.
WHYWAT4	Posted - 2011.07.31 18:01:00 - [10] Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can. What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 18:06:00 - [11] Originally by: WHYWAT4 Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can. What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them? Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.07.31 18:33:00 - [12] Originally by: WHYWAT4 Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can. What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them? Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh because I'm a terrible, terrible FC) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore. We are always up for fun fights, but I think you have to be fair and admit that you guys easily out numbered us and even with just Ruptures they can lay the hurt down with Arti's. The Vaga, Rook and even if the Lach was still there, would of been useless being we were all at zero when you guys jumped in. Meaning it would of been your 15 or 18 vs 5 BC's DPS wise.. Not such a very GF for our side.
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 18:37:00 - [13] Originally by: Mutnin Originally by: WHYWAT4 Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can. What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them? Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh because I'm a terrible, terrible FC) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore. We are always up for fun fights, but I think you have to be fair and admit that you guys easily out numbered us and even with just Ruptures they can lay the hurt down with Arti's. The Vaga, Rook and even if the Lach was still there, would of been useless being we were all at zero when you guys jumped in. Meaning it would of been your 15 or 18 vs 5 BC's DPS wise.. Not such a very GF for our side. v0v I disagree. The rook can probably jam at least 3 of us, the Vaga easily does the DPS of another Cane(almost anyway) and can practically sigtank us at 0. And since we WERE at 0 your autocanes could melt a Rupture every few seconds.
X Gallentius Quantum Cats Syndicate	Posted - 2011.07.31 19:03:00 - [14] Leroy Jenkins is ashamed.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.07.31 20:02:00 - [15] Originally by: Securitas Protector v0v I disagree. The rook can probably jam at least 3 of us, the Vaga easily does the DPS of another Cane(almost anyway) and can practically sigtank us at 0. And since we WERE at 0 your autocanes could melt a Rupture every few seconds. It's easy to disagree when you out number the other side 2 to 1, but I assume you still somehow mange to think we had 15 BC's.
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 22:47:00 - [16] Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 22:54:45 Originally by: Mutnin Don't worry though we managed to get blobbed to hell by BDeal anyway. Whoa, whoa. Calm down. No need to be so aggressive. :) We're all friends here. Also, we got blobbed by BDEAL too: http://calliance.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10274989 We engaged almost 4:1. :P Your turn. I practice what I preach. I think EVE needs more fights. Honestly I'm not so frustrated at specifically this incident as at the fact that it is extremely hard to get fights of any kind lately.
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.07.31 23:08:00 - [17] But Sec, by now everyone now knows about your elitepvp ruptures. You're going to have to bring out the ferox fleet for gudfites.
Rer Eirikr Gallente Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 23:10:00 - [18] You had a gate **caged. We jumped in, started pewing. You ran, we got sad. PvP happe... wait no, no, we just sat there hoping something would happen. Will you engage our Ferox roams? I mean seriously, we purposely fly ** on the basis that maybe someone will actually want to PvP in EVE. Obviously I should just go back to playing SOMER Blink.
GoldenDawn Amarr Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 23:15:00 - [19] I was sitting there, in a ship that i hate (minmitar.) i said 1 vs 1 F**got. No response.
T' Elk Minmatar Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.31 23:18:00 - [20] Yo concordiat is such a bad alliance, im lookin for a new corp pm me
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.07.31 23:46:00 - [21] Rail moa roams, calling it now.
nemississ Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.01 01:22:00 - [22] Edited by: nemississ on 01/08/2011 01:22:54 I was not there but i think its funny that one would form a gang go out in said gang in aparantly ships none of them could afford to lose to pvp and the first gang that came along with comparable numbers..... they ran sounds like some carebears pretending to be pvpers to me mabe you shoudl STFU take the call out for being terrible and sit the ** down. If your going out to pvp... actually pvp or dont waste your time go back to your ty little missions and your RP channels its not worth your time since your clearly not looking for a fight fair or otherwise any decent pvper would take a mixed fleet heavy on the t2 side vs a t1 cruiser fleet if they are actually looking to pvp and not just roam around get a couple easy ganks and go home if thats what you want sweet but dont come in here defending yourself when you get called out for being a * ass got kthx. Also if the cost of your ship is a factor in whether or not you engage a target or enemy fleet dont fly it get into a rifter or again go back to your *ty missions and RP channels and stfu. Fly what you can afford nubs. ps your all **ing terrible
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2011.08.01 02:59:00 - [23] This is truly an enlightening and intelligent read. Thank you all for your opinions. It's these kind of groundbreaking conversations across different backgrounds and fields of expertise that makes the internet so valuable.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.08.01 04:49:00 - [24] Originally by: nemississ Edited by: nemississ on 01/08/2011 01:22:54 I was not there but i think I quoted the important part.. See that's what's wrong, even the guys from your alliance that were there don't seem to have much of a clue so how could you.
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2011.08.01 07:51:00 - [25] Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not. More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.
Mfume Apocal Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.08.01 07:56:00 - [26] Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 01/08/2011 07:58:15 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not. why yes, diat, with avg member having 12m sp is known for brutal hotdrops and using neutral rr alts in nullsec. do you ever wonder what life would be like if your mother hadn't drank so much when she was pregnant?
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.01 07:58:00 - [27] Edited by: Securitas Protector on 01/08/2011 07:59:12 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not. More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused. We were in 0.0 so no GCC, HTH. Also LMAO at us having a reputation for other than dying horribly.
Midori Tsu The Concordiat	Posted - 2011.08.01 08:04:00 - [28] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not. More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused. this post made my day, because you obviously have no ****ing clue what you are talking about.
Eian Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2011.08.01 09:52:00 - [29] Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays. We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there! Looking forward to it, Sec Ouh Mah goawd. Pvpees didn't happen. Of to the internet to *** about it. Originally by:** Karthwritte LOL, I dont get paid for putting paragraphs. I dont get paid for anything.
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.08.01 17:13:00 - [30] Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not. More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused. Hahahaha, you're so ignorant.
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.01 17:32:00 - [31] Looks like all of you need to learn that you can indeed engage outnumbered and outgunned. 6 Caracal + Tackle vs 15-20 TEST Bcs Battlereport And for those of you who don't believe the numbers, I'll see if I can't get Midori to post a video clip.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.08.01 17:40:00 - [32] Edited by: Mutnin on 01/08/2011 17:43:44 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not. More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused. Na what they had wasn't that bad, it was just we were all at zero on a gate with 10 freaking bubbles around it. We had 5 BC's max & a Vagabond for DPS and our Rook was useless for that fight because it was rainbow fit. I think when these guys came by we were down to 4 BC's at that time 3 of which were Arti canes that didn't have a lot of tank. Meaning trying to fight 18 T1 cruises even with their ****ty Osprey logistics was a bit much when we were all at 0 of the gate. Had we had 5 ore 6 Drakes then it would of been a different story, because we likely could of taken on those numbers and had a close fight, but Arti Cane just don't have the for tank kind of fight up close they need to be at range. These guys just want to come here and cry, because we didn't fight them. I suspect they will have a very disappointing life in EVE if they feel the need to come cry on a forum every time they get blue balled.
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.08.01 18:39:00 - [33] Originally by: Mutnin Edited by: Mutnin on 01/08/2011 18:20:07 Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not. More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused. Na what they had wasn't that bad, it was just we were all at zero on a gate with 10 freaking bubbles around it. We had 5 BC's max & a Vagabond for DPS and our Rook was useless for that fight because it was rainbow fit. I think when these guys came by we were down to 4 BC's at that time 3 of which were Arti canes that didn't have a lot of tank. Meaning trying to fight 18 T1 cruises even with their **ty Osprey logistics was a bit much when we were all at 0 of the gate. Had we had 5 ore 6 Drakes then it would of been a different story, because we likely could of taken on those numbers and had a close fight, but Arti Cane just doesn't have the tank, for kind of fight up close, any **** knows they need to be at range for a fleet/gang fight. These guys just want to come here and cry, because we didn't fight them on their terms. I suspect they will have a very disappointing life in EVE, if they feel the need to come cry on a forum every time they get blue balled. Had they not cried so much over nothing, then I would of thought maybe they would be a fun group to go have some skirmishes with. However judging by this topic, I suspect they would be better off going to high sec and griefing carebears with war decs as the mentality seems right up there with the average station humper. That was a lot of :words: to say "we're cowards and we ran from ruptures."
B3TTY WH1T3	Posted - 2011.08.01 19:30:00 - [34] lol i love the4 because obviously they got you to make a thread and spill tears, ill always take the four horsemen over some nub ****hole alliance thanks. also when they do fight as i have engaged them hundreds of times theyre no pushover, so i give it 1week-3weeks before you look like a moron. thanks for thread and tears, was funny
Corwin Broadside State Protectorate	Posted - 2011.08.01 20:08:00 - [35] Originally by: B3TTY WH1T3 lol i love the4 because obviously they got you to make a thread and spill tears, ill always take the four horsemen over some nub ****hole alliance thanks. also when they do fight as i have engaged them hundreds of times theyre no pushover, so i give it 1week-3weeks before you look like a moron. thanks for thread and tears, was funny Best thing I have read yet. Know they will engage out numbered if the mood takes them. Great group of lads.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.08.01 20:29:00 - [36] Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis That was a lot of :words: to say "we're cowards and we ran from ruptures." I always love when the hero troll alts come out of the wood work. It's when you know someone is mad.
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.08.01 21:38:00 - [37] Originally by: Mutnin Originally by: Nimrod Nemesis That was a lot of :words: to say "we're cowards and we ran from ruptures." I always love when the hero troll alts come out of the wood work. It's when you know someone is mad. Oh my, was that a "you mad?" post. You guys are good at pvp.
Cordo Draken ABOS Industrial Enterprises	Posted - 2011.08.01 22:52:00 - [38] Originally by: X Gallentius Leroy Jenkins is ashamed. LOL... So it begins. Oh, If u guys were in Arty-canes, what were you doing sitting on gate at zero? Isn't that contrary to your own words in utilizing the style of gang you had? Sounds more like you guys got caught unprepared without scouting/intel. Not trying to be a ***, but isn't that just fail in general for 0.0? Courage fails the ill prepared in my experience. ----- Whoever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression*," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my Autocannons.
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2011.08.01 23:17:00 - [39] would have would have would have "would of" is nonsense
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.01 23:18:00 - [40] Edited by: Securitas Protector on 01/08/2011 23:18:59 I don't see many tears from us. Call Calliance what you will, but we always engage if we have but the slightest chance of winning. Whether we take those same 18 cruisers and engage 50 BCs(and lose) or take 6 Caracals and fight 20 (and win.) We're politely(and not politely for some of us) suggesting that you do the same, or get called out. Also THE4 is welcome to come to Curse if you'd like to make us look dumb. e: Mutnin if you had had 4-5 drakes it would have been worse for you; we had firewalls. :)
Mfume Apocal Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.08.01 23:32:00 - [41] Originally by: Mutnin I suspect they would be better off going to high sec and griefing carebears with war decs as the mentality seems right up there with the average station humper. lol this whole post is incredibly ironic considering how much you post about never being able to get fights.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.08.02 00:46:00 - [42] Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 01/08/2011 23:18:59 I don't see many tears from us. You started a entire topic and posted on at least 2 forums about not getting 1 specific fight from us, while exaggerating the fleet comps by 2 times to make it appear as we had over whelming force and ran in fear. Sounds a lot like crying to me, I just decided to correct your numbers after seeing you post same whine on 2 different forums. Also it wasn't a the4 gang, it was a mixed corp gang so dunno why you singling them out. TBH I thought it was pretty stupid to be sitting at zero on the gate but I wasn't FCing it. I only went along because I thought we were gonna roam not camp some gate.
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.08.02 01:26:00 - [43] Originally by: Mfume Apocal this whole post is incredibly ironic considering how much you post about never being able to get fights. Don't bust his balls too hard Mfume, he's just another risk-averse carebear trying to get e-rep in the WT forum.
Randal Eirikr	Posted - 2011.08.02 01:55:00 - [44] Well I guess the take home point of this thread is Ruppies are clearly now considered OP. Dear god, they have guns, and can press F1. Next thing you know someone will say Caracals are OP because 'they can shoot'. And EXTREME LOL, on the 'You are known for Hot Dropping'. You clearly know what you're talking about. The only thing we should be known for is fighting no matter the odds and often, as a result, dying in a fire.
GoldenDawn Amarr Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.02 02:07:00 - [45] This is OP.
Julie Beta	Posted - 2011.08.02 02:10:00 - [46] Originally by: Mutnin Hence the reason I've been joining some of the militia gangs as of late, to at least get some action. LOL Good lord that explains so much. Elite PVPer right here. Make sure to stay in character while you're at it.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.08.02 03:09:00 - [47] Edited by: Mutnin on 02/08/2011 03:16:24 Originally by: Julie Beta Originally by: Mutnin Hence the reason I've been joining some of the militia gangs as of late, to at least get some action. LOL Good lord that explains so much. Elite PVPer right here. Make sure to stay in character while you're at it. Totaly carebear & hell I even fly Drakes. This is what is wrong with EVE-0 forums.. too many morons that play tuff guys behind faceless alts. Yet are always proski, when no one can see their KB's. Looks like W&T has gone the same way of C&P, nothing but but useless troll alts posting ****.
Julie Beta	Posted - 2011.08.02 03:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Mutnin This is what is wrong with EVE-0 forums.. too many morons that play tuff guys behind faceless alts. Yet are always proski, when no one can see their KB's. null And see what happens?
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.08.02 06:00:00 - [49] Originally by: Mutnin Looks like W&T has gone the same way of C&P, nothing but but useless troll alts posting ****. Yeah! Stick it to those bad bad alt posters man! Fight the powa!
SaltyandSweet Amarr Snuff Box	Posted - 2011.08.02 06:49:00 - [50] Oops I posted as betty. But I love how the scrub alliance guy is posting. Atleast 4horsemen are heard of, who the f u c k are you badkids? Sorry if u struck a v@g1na tenderloin.
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.02 06:58:00 - [51] Engaging outgunned is completely possible. Proof? Here you go. The only reason all of them didn't die is they killed all tackle and bailed (smart move.)
Mfume Apocal Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.08.02 07:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Mutnin This is what is wrong with EVE-0 forums.. too many morons that play tuff guys behind faceless alts. Yet are always proski, when no one can see their KB's. Looks like W&T has gone the same way of C&P, nothing but but useless troll alts posting ****. mmmm there are mains posting in this thread.
B3TTY WH1T3	Posted - 2011.08.02 08:59:00 - [53] lol nice battlereport, its like showing me a baseball game between a double a team and a single a team, you can brag but you still ain't in the majors. I'd rather read xenurias trash.
vextorious The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.02 16:33:00 - [54] Im a pretty old toon with a respectful corp history and impeccable game integrity. Their fleet composition was just as sec has described. They ran from arty ruptures. These are the facts. That is all.
Jon Archqus	Posted - 2011.08.02 17:08:00 - [55] Edited by: Jon Archqus on 02/08/2011 17:16:20 Originally by: Securitas Protector Engaging outgunned is completely possible. Proof? Here you go. The only reason all of them didn't die is they killed all tackle and bailed (smart move.) You really think you are the first to have someone in "better" ships run from you? Looking at the losses on the test side if their canes were fit like that then no wonder they ran. They had no tank and most were crap fits, I'd be willing to bet 10 arti ruptures could probably alpha the Canes in that BR. Anyway get over yourself, no one really cares if you want to go suicide a bunch of cheap T1 cruisers into a blob. Good for you if you want to, but quit acting like everyone is scared because they don't return the favor of suicide their Hacs or what ever, that cost more than your entire gang into yours. It's not a big surprise that a bunch of decent fit Ruptures can kill BC's, Ruptures with good fits in large gangs are very effective. Just chill out and go PVP and stop crying on the forum if someone doesn't fight your gang.
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.02 17:21:00 - [56] Originally by: Jon Archqus Edited by: Jon Archqus on 02/08/2011 17:16:20 Originally by: Securitas Protector Engaging outgunned is completely possible. Proof? Here you go. The only reason all of them didn't die is they killed all tackle and bailed (smart move.) You really think you are the first to have someone in "better" ships run from you? No, and that's the problem, isn't it? It's all over nowadays. Originally by: Jon Archqus They had no tank Much like us, TBH.
Dark Pangolin Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2011.08.02 18:48:00 - [57] Edited by: Dark Pangolin on 02/08/2011 18:49:03 Officially the only (current) member of The4 to respond to this thread. Corwin, we all miss you and we'll leave the light on for you :) It is 100% true in EVE that your side has only pilots that are Honorable Space Warriors, while the opposition is all full of n00b, carebear, f4g pilots that never want a "fair" fight. Therefore, you must be awesome and pro and we must be the suck. Unless I am you and you are me in which case we are awesome and pro and you are the suck...but you posted first so by forum law I must bow to your awesomeness! Thank you for your inviting us to a swell dance party. I don't often get out to null sec (because I am afraid of all the l33t pvpers there...like yourselves) and because NPC-Pirates killed my ship once. May i please extend my invitation to you to come join us for a dance party in low-sec. Come on down to Black Rise any time you want. Don't even bother calling ahead, you're welcome any time! It's been great chatting with you! I look forward to running away from your fleets! P.S. The4 are recruiting! :)
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.02 19:14:00 - [58] Originally by: Dark Pangolin Edited by: Dark Pangolin on 02/08/2011 18:49:03 Officially the only (current) member of The4 to respond to this thread. Corwin, we all miss you and we'll leave the light on for you :) It is 100% true in EVE that your side has only pilots that are Honorable Space Warriors, while the opposition is all full of n00b, carebear, f4g pilots that never want a "fair" fight. Therefore, you must be awesome and pro and we must be the suck. Unless I am you and you are me in which case we are awesome and pro and you are the suck...but you posted first so by forum law I must bow to your awesomeness! Thank you for your inviting us to a swell dance party. I don't often get out to null sec (because I am afraid of all the l33t pvpers there...like yourselves) and because NPC-Pirates killed my ship once. May i please extend my invitation to you to come join us for a dance party in low-sec. Come on down to Black Rise any time you want. Don't even bother calling ahead, you're welcome any time! It's been great chatting with you! I look forward to running away from your fleets! P.S. The4 are recruiting! :) I know, elite pvpers like us only fly T1 cruisers. We're so hard to defeat, you might as well give up now.
HorseEve	Posted - 2011.08.02 19:38:00 - [59] What I find the funniest about this whole thread are the completely random comments of "I Was There". There are way to many people here pretending they know what happened, and realy are completely clueless. Secondly, they more they type those keys with those pudgy little fingers, the more ridiculous they sound. - The most interesting part I found about the whole fleet battle was our opponents tactics. So, our opponent fleet jumped in and were at range. At that point we began to utterly destroy and own them. - This is understandable, and like a good fleet, they destroyed our tackle and got away. But then the weirdest thing happened, they came back! And not only did they come back, but they came back at the same range!! So what happened? We continued to own them. The other hilarious thing about this fight is that the DIAT FC was freaking ****ed because we couldn tackle them! It was so sad, the ownage was occuring, and we would watch them warp away, one by one. O Well, it was great fun lads, and I hope more fights occur! Fly Safe!
Dark Pangolin Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2011.08.02 20:14:00 - [60] Originally by: Securitas Protector I know, elite pvpers like us only fly T1 cruisers. We're so hard to defeat, you might as well give up now. Pretty much you guys are trying to slice this 2 ways. Either we're competent in Ruptures and therefore it's a good idea to run from us OR we're terrible NPC elite pvp crybabies who suck and you should have vaporized us. You can't have it both ways. I think you just like seeing youself type so this is the last thing I'm going to post on this thread. I ask that if any member of The4 reads this they should not respond to this thread. I was in no way challenging you e-p33n manhood, you started this post and continue to perpetuate it. I was having fun on the forums, but apparently you don't seem to want to engage in funny banter. I don't know if you guys are any good or not. I don't care. I do know you are complaining on the forums and calling out my corp specifically. I was not there. I do not know the details. This is an internet spaceship game. We will typically engage in any fight we have a reasonable chance of winning (reasonable is not the same as guaranteed). That is in fact all we ever do. Ganks happen but we are certainly not gank monkeys. If the FC chose to disengage then he must have thought a win was not reasonable or a fight was not desirable, even though you may disagree. It sounds like from your opponents point of view it was 9 v 18 while form your point of view it was 18 v 15 and your opponents outclassed you. I suggest both parties get better scouts next time. Don't be a crybaby on the forums because you didn't get a fight. I hear enough of that in-game from every single fleet that wants to gank something "why is no one fighting?!?!". That includes my own fleet mates when enemy fleets run form us by the way. Occasionally suicide fleets are fun, but losing 90% of your ships in a fight and calling that a win is just ridiculous. You know what maybe what you should have done is CAUGHT the fleet running away from you. Its 0.0 there are bubbles to catch whole fleets. Maybe shadow them with a scout and trap them? Did they run away or did you LET them run away? Welcome to EVE. No one from The4 slandered your corp or alliance, you started the post by slandering my corp. I don't care about yours at all, so I'm not calling it names good or bad. I hope you have fun playing EVE. That is all. If you don't like that, go shoot at Incursion rats. I hear they have good AI and never run from a fight. Good day to you sir! P.S. I said GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR!
Securitas Protector The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.02 20:20:00 - [61] Edited by: Securitas Protector on 02/08/2011 20:28:12 Calling someone out is hardly the same as slandering them hth. :) We actually went looking for a rematch last night, but nobody was there so we had to butcher TEST instead. :( You must understand, that gang is the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. Getting no fights after 5 days of roaming is pretty harsh. :( Plenty of ganks, but no satifsying fights. It's like gorging yourself on appetizers but never getting the main course.
Mfume Apocal Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.	Posted - 2011.08.02 20:29:00 - [62] Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 02/08/2011 20:30:05 the part i like most is where the4 ask them to come to black rise and diat does, yet somehow, no fight happens :iiam:
HorseEve	Posted - 2011.08.02 20:32:00 - [63] For you the4 boys, I was not talking about you, So I do apologize if you thought I was. My post was about TEST last night. Which was quite entertaining and I hope for many more fights like it.
Mutnin Amarr Mutineers	Posted - 2011.08.02 21:39:00 - [64] Edited by: Mutnin on 02/08/2011 21:43:14 Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 02/08/2011 20:28:12 Calling someone out is hardly the same as slandering them hth. :) We actually went looking for a rematch last night, but nobody was there so we had to butcher TEST instead. :( You must understand, that gang is the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. Getting no fights after 5 days of roaming is pretty harsh. :( Plenty of ganks, but no satifsying fights. It's like gorging yourself on appetizers but never getting the main course. You called them out for no reason, it was a mix corp gang and there was only 2 members of the4 in that gang, neither of which were the FC so no real reason to focus on them. Not finding fights is something you should get used to because it's pretty common. If it were common then there wouldn't be anything special about them when they do happen. Granted in FW at least between Caldari & Gallente we probably get more than our fair share of GF's. Last night when your gang came through I was in Vlillirer, I watched you guys come into local and leave in less than 2 or 3 mins. You guys were off to Als and then into null and gone again. You were on the radar but left so fast we didn't bother getting anything together. If you are looking for fights, then it's not typically something you will get instantly, unless you just happen to catch a random gang. You need to hang around Black Rise long enough for us to get something together and respond. Have a little patience and wait around a bit and we can typically respond. (sometimes we just don't have enough active guys so it might not happen) In FW we are a lot of smaller mixed corps and the Militia is just like a "rough" alliance that no one controls. Meaning the groups that work with each other do so in intel channels but we typically don't have standing response fleets waiting around idly. We form up when we see a target or people are just bored and want to try to pick a fight. Last night there was a small frig & destroyer gang out roaming when you guys came through but you were gone so fast they would have never had a chance to go re-ship or even catch you. This is some examples of GF's we tend to get, so by no means are we "scared" to engage your T1 cruiser gangs, just don't expect "instant action" because you happen to have a gang formed because we might not have one at the time. Few battle reports from the last month or so..(these are just fights i was in myself or on an alt.. there are lots more so yea we fight a lot)BR's are not links to keep CCP from editing them..so copy & paste.. http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10239695 vs BDeal http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10078288 vs Gal Militia http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&adjacent&kll_id=10176305 vs White Noise/Gal Sometimes we out number them, http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10009800 Sometimes we suicide into their home system and die horribly http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9985505 Sometimes we even die horribly and don't even kill a damn thing for our efforts. http://caldari.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10283816 Just keep in mind we tend to fly a lot of BC's & BS with mixed T2 cruisers. We typically don't fly a lot of T1 cruiser gangs (even though I love Ruptures & Vexors). This means most guys don't have them laying around or ready for a fast response gang, so likely any response will be with a BC gang. (just fyi) Now just be chill and don't get emo if you don't happen to get a fight, the GF's are there but sometimes they just don't work out.
SaltyandSweet Amarr Snuff Box	Posted - 2011.08.02 22:26:00 - [65] Head up yo amamake tomorrow round 1800 eve time or so I'm sure you'll get gud fires.
Nimrod Nemesis Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2011.08.03 01:18:00 - [66] Edited by: Nimrod Nemesis on 03/08/2011 01:18:26 Originally by: Mfume Apocal Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 02/08/2011 20:30:05 the part i like most is where the4 ask them to come to black rise and diat does, yet somehow, no fight happens :iiam: "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Mfume again."

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