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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 16:11:00 -
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Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.
We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!
Looking forward to it,
Sec
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Llambda
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Llambda on 31/07/2011 17:11:39 Nobody cares about your petty ****-waving. Try CAOD.
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:13:00 -
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It is a fair fight. One possible scenario is that the BCs drop like rocks under fire from 18 cruisers (they will), and then the remaining HACs have to square off alone against the remaining cruiser fleet. The mortality rate among the HACs will be high. End result, BC/HAC fleet defeats cruiser fleet but at a much higher ISK loss to their own side. If the FCing sucks on the BC/HAC side it's not inconceivable that they'd lose the fight completely.
Your mistake was thinking people want to fight fair.
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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 17:37:22
Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.
We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!
Looking forward to it,
Sec
I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count.
It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then)
Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's
Learn 2 count..
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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:47:22
Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.
We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!
Looking forward to it,
Sec
I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count.
It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then)
Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's
Learn 2 count..
There were definitely more than 5 BCs mate. Also there was a Lachesis and a couple of HACs as well. The hilarious part is that you guys deigned not to engage not because of our numbers, but because we were in "arty ruptures" which could alpha past logistics, apparently. Despite the fact that you had no logistics.
This is not even counting the fact that 2 Canes alone have the DPS of 6 Ruptures by themselves and the EHP of 4 ruptures (at least.)
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:44:12
Originally by: Mutnin Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 17:37:22
Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.
We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!
Looking forward to it,
Sec
I'm not in THE4 but I assume you are complaining about F7C and if you are you need to go back to grade school to learn how to count.
It was a mixed Cal Militia gang not just the4, we had 5 BC's 1 of which was having internet issues and kept disconnecting. Aside from the 5 BC's we had a Vaga, Rook & 2 ceptors. That is 9 ships at our peak of that gang and I think it was less when you guys jumped in. (think were were down to 4 BC by then)
Needless to say 9 (5 of which were BC) does not equal 15 BC's
Learn 2 count..
There were definitely more than 5 BCs mate. Also there was a Lachesis and a couple of HACs as well. The hilarious part is that you guys deigned not to engage not because of our numbers, but because we were in "arty ruptures" which could alpha past logistics, apparently. Despite the fact that you had no logistics.
If you are talking about last night in F7C then this is all we had other than the 2 ceptors..
http://bdeal.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=38811
We killed your bait Myrm & tried to kill the Drake but you guys spiked local with 15 or 20 so we ran away.. Think you guys caught a Vaga & Drake or something.
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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:48:00 -
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We had no bait myrm or drake. ;)
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.07.31 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 31/07/2011 18:04:24
Originally by: Securitas Protector We had no bait myrm or drake. ;)
oh nm that was Bdeal that came in shortly after you guys with 15 or so BC's.. Well, regardless you can look and see what we had. There sure wasn't any Lach's nor did we have 15 BC's.
This is all we had at the peak of that lil gang last night.. (9 ships 5 of which were BC's and no logi) It was likely less than that by the time you guys rolled through, because we had 1 or 2 guys leave early on.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=13922634
edit, I take it back we had a Lach early on but he was 1st guy to leave and was gone long b4 you guys showed up. I assume your scout didn't keep accurate numbers count as time progressed, because we bled off a few guys pretty early on.
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WHYWAT4
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.
What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?
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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: WHYWAT4
Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.
What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?
Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore.
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: WHYWAT4
Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.
What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?
Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh because I'm a terrible, terrible FC) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore.
We are always up for fun fights, but I think you have to be fair and admit that you guys easily out numbered us and even with just Ruptures they can lay the hurt down with Arti's.
The Vaga, Rook and even if the Lach was still there, would of been useless being we were all at zero when you guys jumped in. Meaning it would of been your 15 or 18 vs 5 BC's DPS wise..
Not such a very GF for our side.
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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mutnin
Originally by: WHYWAT4
Originally by: Securitas Protector Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 17:21:01 If you care about k/d ratio you're probably better off not pvping at all. A fun fight is a fun fight and a rare and valuable thing. People should take it whenever they can.
What is wrong with you? Maybe losing their more valuble ships would not have been fun for them?
Whyever not? Doesn't the experience of a fun fight (which they would have won tbh because I'm a terrible, terrible FC) overshadow some number ingame? It's not like ISK is hard to make anymore.
We are always up for fun fights, but I think you have to be fair and admit that you guys easily out numbered us and even with just Ruptures they can lay the hurt down with Arti's.
The Vaga, Rook and even if the Lach was still there, would of been useless being we were all at zero when you guys jumped in. Meaning it would of been your 15 or 18 vs 5 BC's DPS wise..
Not such a very GF for our side.
v0v I disagree. The rook can probably jam at least 3 of us, the Vaga easily does the DPS of another Cane(almost anyway) and can practically sigtank us at 0. And since we WERE at 0 your autocanes could melt a Rupture every few seconds.
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X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.31 19:03:00 -
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Leroy Jenkins is ashamed.
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.07.31 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector
v0v I disagree. The rook can probably jam at least 3 of us, the Vaga easily does the DPS of another Cane(almost anyway) and can practically sigtank us at 0. And since we WERE at 0 your autocanes could melt a Rupture every few seconds.
It's easy to disagree when you out number the other side 2 to 1, but I assume you still somehow mange to think we had 15 BC's.
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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Securitas Protector on 31/07/2011 22:54:45
Originally by: Mutnin
Don't worry though we managed to get blobbed to hell by BDeal anyway.
Whoa, whoa. Calm down. No need to be so aggressive. :) We're all friends here.
Also, we got blobbed by BDEAL too: http://calliance.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10274989
We engaged almost 4:1. :P Your turn. I practice what I preach. I think EVE needs more fights. Honestly I'm not so frustrated at specifically this incident as at the fact that it is extremely hard to get fights of any kind lately.
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.31 23:08:00 -
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But Sec, by now everyone now knows about your elitepvp ruptures. You're going to have to bring out the ferox fleet for gudfites.
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Rer Eirikr
Gallente Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 23:10:00 -
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You had a gate ****caged.
We jumped in, started pewing.
You ran, we got sad.
PvP happe... wait no, no, we just sat there hoping something would happen.
Will you engage our Ferox roams? I mean seriously, we purposely fly **** on the basis that *maybe* someone will actually want to PvP in EVE.
Obviously I should just go back to playing SOMER Blink.
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GoldenDawn
Amarr Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 23:15:00 -
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I was sitting there, in a ship that i hate (minmitar.) i said 1 vs 1 F**got. No response.
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T' Elk
Minmatar Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.31 23:18:00 -
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Yo concordiat is such a bad alliance, im lookin for a new corp pm me
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.31 23:46:00 -
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Rail moa roams, calling it now.
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nemississ
Clearly Compensating Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.01 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: nemississ on 01/08/2011 01:22:54 I was not there but i think its funny that one would form a gang go out in said gang in aparantly ships none of them could afford to lose to pvp and the first gang that came along with comparable numbers..... they ran sounds like some carebears pretending to be pvpers to me mabe you shoudl STFU take the call out for being terrible and sit the **** down.
If your going out to pvp... actually pvp or dont waste your time go back to your ****ty little missions and your RP channels its not worth your time since your clearly not looking for a fight fair or otherwise any decent pvper would take a mixed fleet heavy on the t2 side vs a t1 cruiser fleet if they are actually looking to pvp and not just roam around get a couple easy ganks and go home if thats what you want sweet but dont come in here defending yourself when you get called out for being a ***** ass ***got kthx.
Also if the cost of your ship is a factor in whether or not you engage a target or enemy fleet dont fly it get into a rifter or again go back to your ****ty missions and RP channels and stfu.
Fly what you can afford nubs.
ps your all ****ing terrible
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape
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Posted - 2011.08.01 02:59:00 -
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This is truly an enlightening and intelligent read. Thank you all for your opinions. It's these kind of groundbreaking conversations across different backgrounds and fields of expertise that makes the internet so valuable.
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Mutnin
Amarr Mutineers
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Posted - 2011.08.01 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: nemississ Edited by: nemississ on 01/08/2011 01:22:54 I was not there but i think
I quoted the important part.. See that's what's wrong, even the guys from your alliance that were there don't seem to have much of a clue so how could you.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2011.08.01 07:51:00 -
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Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.
More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.
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Mfume Apocal
Minmatar Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2011.08.01 07:56:00 -
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Edited by: Mfume Apocal on 01/08/2011 07:58:15
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.
why yes, diat, with avg member having 12m sp is known for brutal hotdrops and using neutral rr alts in nullsec.
do you ever wonder what life would be like if your mother hadn't drank so much when she was pregnant?
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Securitas Protector
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.01 07:58:00 -
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Edited by: Securitas Protector on 01/08/2011 07:59:12
Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.
More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.
We were in 0.0 so no GCC, HTH.
Also LMAO at us having a reputation for other than dying horribly.
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Midori Tsu
The Concordiat
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Posted - 2011.08.01 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.
More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.
this post made my day, because you obviously have no ****ing clue what you are talking about.
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Eian
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.01 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Securitas Protector Just calling out that next time you should actually fight us. 15 BC/HACs(you) vs 18 T1 cruisers is not a fair fight nowadays? If that's the case no wonder why fights are so hard to get nowadays.
We'll probably be going the same place at the same time during the next few days, so I'm hoping we see you there!
Looking forward to it,
Sec
Ouh Mah goawd. Pvpees didn't happen. Of to the internet to ***** about it.
Originally by: Karthwritte LOL, I dont get paid for putting paragraphs. I dont get paid for anything.
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Nimrod Nemesis
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.08.01 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida Sounds like you have a reputation for hot-dropping everything and/or make use of a bazillion neutral RR alts. Even if it just rumoured you will be blue balled more often than not.
More likely scenario however is that you stared at each other on a gate, and being the lowly curs that you evidently are you adamantly refused to take GCC and then hurried to forums whining about it when the other party also refused.
Hahahaha, you're so ignorant.
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