Get more friends.

No matter what you do though, the attackers can just bring more DPS and logi, while you are still stuck with the limits of your 1 POS.

CCP did have some ideas about letting you anchor a POS elsewhere, and with other POSes near by. So maybe someday your small players could group POSes to counter growing POS shot fleets.

What was the deal with 50mil/character/month? That's not a bad deal to just be left alone, and if being blue extended any other opportunities or services it could have been the foot in the door to a better situation. If you just had 2 characters, the minimum to jump your stuff around, you could mine or rat up that kind of isk on 1 weekend afternoon and then been free to play around the rest of the month.

Really, it seems like most of your problems are of your own choice. Your corpmates who didn't want to rent, and then you blowing off a perfectly reasonable chance to get in as a renter. You want to play in an area famed for large fleets, but don't want to be in large fleets.

Really, why are you playing a massively multiplayer game when you seem to have trouble making, keeping, and working with friends? Why keep playing a game that is big on the sandbox and metagaming, and then get into a rut of strictly real time strategy thinking?

So we've gone from "waah nobody's using all these systems" to "I want to shoot paperthin POSes" to "I want to **** enemy fleets in MY POS".

At least you're consistent.

No. The fee wasn't the problem. The fact that I had to pay someone for space they did NOT own didn't sit with me. It was lowsec. It's a matter of idealogy. I thought I made that quite clear.

Let's have a look at the arguments here, so far.

You want nullsec space to be utilized. Your solution: make POSes killable in one sitting. My solution: make nullsec space worth using over hisec.

You want small alliances to be able to carve out space by making the bigger alliances contract. Your solution: make POSes killable in one sitting. My solution: make nullsec space more valuable and make SOV less of a waterfall style process.

And now you suddenly want POSes to be very deadly

The bit that irked me, they didn''t want the moon it was on and I only mined and ratted and kept a low profile. To stay, I was given the opportunity to pay 50m per char per month to blue up but you know, extortion bothers me so I told +¬m no.

I'll repeat that. Extortion bothers me. Unused space. I want to use. I gotta pay. Or die.

So be daring and COMBINE the ideas and discuss the merits/problems.

So I was correct several posts ago.

You would start a one man corp, drop a PoS, it would get blown up, and now you're mad.

Oh get out. POS defense is pathetic against all but solo/small fleet. You can max DS and it's still gonna go down and pretty easily.

What's the attack strategy. Start on the ewar and guns. POS gun targets you. Tell logi. Wait 2 or 3 minutes. POS guns switch. Keep shooting the whole time.

Rinse/repeat until all guns decapped.

Shoot tower.

Make the POS gun AI group up - target fast and 1 shot.
Or give POS gunners control on all guns. Whaddya I get, 5 if maxed skilled?

Hey wait a minute. Stop shitting on the thread with this singular topic shredding.

Yes. POS's MUST be VERY VULNERABLE while they PRODUCE.

and again in case you misssed it.

Yes. POS's MUST be VERY VULNERABLE while they PRODUCE.



I've ALWAYS said this too.

While they are NOT producing they ARE deadly. VERY deadly.

Got that. VERY deadly.

WHILE they are not producing.

I've ALSO stated that it may/may not have sov ramifications. Ideas were put forward as to why it MIGHT.


The debate is on the POTENTIAL it MAY have or MAY NOT have to fixing dead, empty 0.0 space.

YOUR ideas might work too - I am fine with that. So be daring and COMBINE the ideas and discuss the merits/problems.

And really. All this crap that it's a Goons shoot is moot. Goons can kill everybody, anywhere, anytime REGARDLESS of what's done.

That's why this is self-evidently NOT about the Goons. Never was. But, meh, whatever floats your boat.

No. Your ideas for POSes are horrible for reasons I've detailed multiple times, and it gets worse when you extend that to sov structures.

All this sperging and you have yet to come up with one good idea op. Nerf highsec and buff nullsec, leave pos alone (aside from the coming revamp), and fix sov. There you go I've solved all the problems you keep failing to solve.

The buff to PvP opportunities, the removal of safety in 0.0, the increase in wanton destruction and the ability for SMALL alliances to do all of this sounds like an awesome sauce opportunity to me.

If you think that's not gonna change the way things are done, then we gonna just have to agree to disagree cos I think you are soooo wrong.

Turn ALL of sov into a thunderdome, not just the bits you chose.

In other words, win one fight, level an entire region with the ground. Get surprised why there aren't anyone who wants to live in nullsec a few days later. vOv

Aww c'mon Zim. You're smarter than that. I can't level anything. I can't attack your sov. I can't touch your structures.

No, but we can.

And if you give me something to fight back with - I might just be prepared to take the risk.

Trust me - 0.0 will FLOOD...

I reckon there is a massive amount of people stuck between accepting blue as the ONLY way or staying stuck in highsec.

This will offer an awesome opportunity.

With this - I will be the FIRST to put up a tower - I'll even tell you where it is - When I die, I'll put up another one.

Just gimme the km's so I can check if you're on it.

What's stopping you from putting up a tower, today?

lowsec pirates might actually fight him for what he owns

thus, nullsec, lowsec and especially w-space must be FUBARd up so one guy can anchor a tower in 0.4 molden heath or whatever until he goes to bed before without his tower in 'defensive mode' and some roaming test pilot in an oracle melts his pos down while he sleeps.

Nope, as you can see most hisec characters are in lol 5 alt corps.

And whos to say the 5 man corp isnt theyer main corp and the 200 man 0.0 corp they have 0.0 alt in isnt just for lulz

Likelihood: low.

So you asume any proof of this statment or is it just a gues?


I know many who do i used to myself now i stay losec 0.0 is so 2006

0.0 is not just from a different era, it may as well be a different game.

But I don't want to. I just wanna use the space you are NOT using.

and if da man stupid enough not to flip the switch. bad luck.