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Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2012.09.28 04:24:00 - [331] - Quote Emuene wrote: There are no alts in this thread. What are you talking about? And I agree with Nat, pandas are hot. You already did that. I laughed the first time.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 284	Posted - 2012.09.28 04:25:00 - [332] - Quote ^^ what these guys said.
Ghazu 201	Posted - 2012.09.28 04:27:00 - [333] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: Ghazu wrote: So it appears while your 80 men had balls you had none and pulled the plug on a good thing. And look at you now. Yes, indeed. Their courage was limited to the fact that I funded and ran the towers and builds. OK. Your 10 minutes are up. Roll over. Apply sunscreen. Give your other alt a chance. Well then, either you are delusional (of grandeur) or just really stupid and in general have no grasp of leadership concepts.
Brooks Puuntai Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 818	Posted - 2012.09.28 04:30:00 - [334] - Quote Wait so renting is now the logical progression for 0.0. I know it can be a path, but kind of a lazy and sissy way of doing it.
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2012.09.28 04:31:00 - [335] - Quote Ghazu wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: Ghazu wrote: So it appears while your 80 men had balls you had none and pulled the plug on a good thing. And look at you now. Yes, indeed. Their courage was limited to the fact that I funded and ran the towers and builds. OK. Your 10 minutes are up. Roll over. Apply sunscreen. Give your other alt a chance. Well then, either you are delusional (of grandeur) or just really stupid and in general have no grasp of leadership concepts. Which part of WI do you look after again?
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2012.09.28 04:33:00 - [336] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: Wait so renting is now the logical progression for 0.0. I know it can be a path, but kind of a lazy and sissy way of doing it. Woulda thought rent way best way when you're trying to get new guys used to it. But meh. Whatever floats your boat.
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 613	Posted - 2012.09.28 04:52:00 - [337] - Quote This Touval guy sounds like yet another "I've lived in null, low-sec, and WHs, and walked uphill both ways in the snow, but now I live in high-sec because Goons" forum alt. gg Touval, gg Nothing Found
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2012.09.28 05:06:00 - [338] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: This Touval guy sounds like yet another "I've lived in null, low-sec, and WHs, and walked uphill both ways in the snow, but now I live in high-sec because Goons" forum alt. gg Touval, gg lolz. Actually I saw that post and thought. Hey THATS' ME..... Actually I don't live anywhere 'cos I don't know where to head next. Only resubbed to pay my respects. Saw the light on and haven't left yet.
Karl Hobb Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium 613	Posted - 2012.09.28 05:20:00 - [339] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: Actually I don't live anywhere 'cos I don't know where to head next. Only resubbed to pay my respects. Saw the light on and haven't left yet. It's cool, I looked at your corp history after the fact and laughed at myself. Everybody's an NPC corp forum alt these days. Wait... If Goonswarm is a sov-holding alliance with an "empire", wouldn't that make their corps effectively the same as NPC corps? Nothing Found
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 159	Posted - 2012.09.28 05:22:00 - [340] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: Actually I don't live anywhere 'cos I don't know where to head next. Only resubbed to pay my respects. Saw the light on and haven't left yet. It's cool, I looked at your corp history after the fact and laughed at myself. Everybody's an NPC corp forum alt these days. Wait... If Goonswarm is a sov-holding alliance with an "empire", wouldn't that make their corps effectively the same as NPC corps? If NPC = Not Particularly Clever who said that????
Ghazu 202	Posted - 2012.09.28 05:33:00 - [341] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: Ghazu wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: Ghazu wrote: So it appears while your 80 men had balls you had none and pulled the plug on a good thing. And look at you now. Yes, indeed. Their courage was limited to the fact that I funded and ran the towers and builds. OK. Your 10 minutes are up. Roll over. Apply sunscreen. Give your other alt a chance. Well then, either you are delusional (of grandeur) or just really stupid and in general have no grasp of leadership concepts. Which part of WI do you look after again? Come to think of it. Were you in WI when they WERE an ALLIANCE or did you join after they became a rent-a-cap for Goons? lol did I brag about mah big balls and my leadership skillz? Did I point at my pile of crap accomplishments and chest beat?
Lord Zim 1558	Posted - 2012.09.28 07:37:00 - [342] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: Lord Zim wrote: Touval Lysander wrote: And what? Show me a list of the last 0.0 alliance you set up and ran? Yeah sure. Join the winning team and claim descendency and an encyclopeadic, untouchable knowledge about all the things. gtfo. I joined GSF right before the sov welp, I've helped fight for the space I'm inhabiting. I didn't "join the winning team", I helped make it "the winning team". I've dealt with the sov systems almost since before you were born. . To be fair you where given the place you currently reside when TCF disbanded. I was there when the VFK headshot took place; I've fought for these systems. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
flakeys Angels of Anarchy Interstellar Confederation 377	Posted - 2012.09.28 15:39:00 - [343] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: Tell me chaps, is that how the entire CFC empire is being run? Empty. Underutilised. Nobody? Is that how 0.0 in general is now? It's typical for null for a long time now.You mention CFC space but if you go north east south or west is all the same these days.A few pockets with decent traffic and a load of empty space.I'd say the only place to have 'some' decent overall activity is in npc null , well if you don't count great wildlands as that's just as dead as the other null. *The surest way to remain poor is to be an honest man ...-á*
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 1358	Posted - 2012.09.28 19:23:00 - [344] - Quote What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Lord Zim 1560	Posted - 2012.09.28 19:26:00 - [345] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. This is incorrect. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 288	Posted - 2012.09.28 19:27:00 - [346] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. There's a difference between "deemed' worthless, and being worthless. So tell me, how many systems did NC give away because they were empty and they wanted someone to put them to use? Oh wait....
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 1358	Posted - 2012.09.28 19:49:00 - [347] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. This is incorrect. This is a lie. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 1358	Posted - 2012.09.28 19:50:00 - [348] - Quote Natsett Amuinn wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. There's a difference between "deemed' worthless, and being worthless. So tell me, how many systems did NC give away because they were empty and they wanted someone to put them to use? Oh wait.... Grasp more. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Lord Zim 1560	Posted - 2012.09.28 19:53:00 - [349] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Lord Zim wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. This is incorrect. This is a lie. Tell us more about how local and structure mails affect power blocs, then. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 289	Posted - 2012.09.28 19:54:00 - [350] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. There's a difference between "deemed' worthless, and being worthless. So tell me, how many systems did NC give away because they were empty and they wanted someone to put them to use? Oh wait.... Grasp more. Don't need to. NC. has recently given some systems away so that they can be put to better use; moons as well. Everyone knows this.
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 147	Posted - 2012.09.28 20:08:00 - [351] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Natsett Amuinn wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. There's a difference between "deemed' worthless, and being worthless. So tell me, how many systems did NC give away because they were empty and they wanted someone to put them to use? Oh wait.... Grasp more. You are the biggest whiner in NC. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining!
Nicolo da'Vicenza Divine Power. Cascade Imminent 1858	Posted - 2012.09.28 20:09:00 - [352] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. What additional 'opportunity' is needed for non-bloc holders to take this unused, unclaimed, unoccupied space? Nobody is living in it, nobody is defending it. What's stopping them right now from putting up a cheap tower and mining and belt ratting to their heart's content exactly? A power bloc cramming a bunch of cloaky gankers into a non-bloc's tiny foothold without local doesn't help it either.
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 165	Posted - 2012.09.28 21:15:00 - [353] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. What additional 'opportunity' is needed for non-bloc holders to take this unused, unclaimed, unoccupied space? Nobody is living in it, nobody is defending it. What's stopping them right now from putting up a cheap tower and mining and belt ratting to their heart's content exactly? A power bloc cramming a bunch of cloaky gankers into a non-bloc's tiny foothold without local doesn't help it either. I know, I know!! Make towers absolutely indestructible. Oh wait.... [sorry, just wanted to start my day on a good note]
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 165	Posted - 2012.09.28 21:36:00 - [354] - Quote Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. What additional 'opportunity' is needed for non-bloc holders to take this unused, unclaimed, unoccupied space? Nobody is living in it, nobody is defending it. What's stopping them right now from putting up a cheap tower and mining and belt ratting to their heart's content exactly? A power bloc cramming a bunch of cloaky gankers into a non-bloc's tiny foothold without local doesn't help it either. You're quite right here. I once dropped a tower into some lowsec bloc space (yep, they do exist) and by using a rorq and JF was able to mine and rat for months before it got smashed. The bit that irked me, they didn''t want the moon it was on and I only mined and ratted and kept a low profile. To stay, I was given the opportunity to pay 50m per char per month to blue up but you know, extortion bothers me so I told +¬m no. I'll repeat that. Extortion bothers me. Unused space. I want to use. I gotta pay. Or die. This ain't bitchin'. Just my view why it doesn't happen much. And to be honest, this has sorta motivated my call for defensive towers that HURT POS killers. Only way little man even got a hope to go there.
Lord Zim 1561	Posted - 2012.09.28 21:44:00 - [355] - Quote Ah, so now you're on to deadly POSes. (hint: you can make POSes quite deadly as it is.) Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
SmilingVagrant GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 621	Posted - 2012.09.28 21:47:00 - [356] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: Depends plus IRC still has space. I should mention I wasn't discrediiting Goons ability to defend, just the comment that makes it sound like Goons actually invaded and took Dek. IRC has space because no one wants that space but IRC. It's the same reason -A- is always able to slither back into cache a few months after people get tired of punching them.
Lord Zim 1561	Posted - 2012.09.28 21:47:00 - [357] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: Lord Zim wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: What needs to happen is power blocks not control space they deem 'worthless' and give the opportunity for non-blocks to take it. With mechanics like local and structure mails, this will never happen. This is incorrect. This is a lie. Tell us more about how local and structure mails affect power blocs, then. Didn't think so. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
Touval Lysander Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 165	Posted - 2012.09.28 22:01:00 - [358] - Quote Lord Zim wrote: Ah, so now you're on to deadly POSes. (hint: you can make POSes quite deadly as it is.) Oh get out. POS defense is pathetic against all but solo/small fleet. You can max DS and it's still gonna go down and pretty easily. What's the attack strategy. Start on the ewar and guns. POS gun targets you. Tell logi. Wait 2 or 3 minutes. POS guns switch. Keep shooting the whole time. Rinse/repeat until all guns decapped. Shoot tower. Make the POS gun AI group up - target fast and 1 shot. Or give POS gunners control on all guns. Whaddya I get, 5 if maxed skilled?
Lord Zim 1561	Posted - 2012.09.28 22:03:00 - [359] - Quote Get more friends. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.
Shepard Wong Ogeko GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 108	Posted - 2012.09.28 22:20:00 - [360] - Quote Touval Lysander wrote: Lord Zim wrote: Ah, so now you're on to deadly POSes. (hint: you can make POSes quite deadly as it is.) Oh get out. POS defense is pathetic against all but solo/small fleet. You can max DS and it's still gonna go down and pretty easily. What's the attack strategy. Start on the ewar and guns. POS gun targets you. Tell logi. Wait 2 or 3 minutes. POS guns switch. Keep shooting the whole time. Rinse/repeat until all guns decapped. Shoot tower. Make the POS gun AI group up - target fast and 1 shot. Or give POS gunners control on all guns. Whaddya I get, 5 if maxed skilled? No matter what you do though, the attackers can just bring more DPS and logi, while you are still stuck with the limits of your 1 POS. CCP did have some ideas about letting you anchor a POS elsewhere, and with other POSes near by. So maybe someday your small players could group POSes to counter growing POS shot fleets. What was the deal with 50mil/character/month? That's not a bad deal to just be left alone, and if being blue extended any other opportunities or services it could have been the foot in the door to a better situation. If you just had 2 characters, the minimum to jump your stuff around, you could mine or rat up that kind of isk on 1 weekend afternoon and then been free to play around the rest of the month. Really, it seems like most of your problems are of your own choice. Your corpmates who didn't want to rent, and then you blowing off a perfectly reasonable chance to get in as a renter. You want to play in an area famed for large fleets, but don't want to be in large fleets. Really, why are you playing a massively multiplayer game when you seem to have trouble making, keeping, and working with friends? Why keep playing a game that is big on the sandbox and metagaming, and then get into a rut of strictly real time strategy thinking?

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