There's a vast number of old guard players who've been living in highsec mining and missioning and trading away for years and years.

The problem with highsec is that the players who live there are so thoroughly mollycoddled by CONCORD and the comforts of Empire that it encourages an insular and narrow playstyle which doesn't translate well to the requirements of CSM campaigning or the responsibilities of office. That's why we tend to find that the most effective CSMs come from 0.0, whereas highsec CSMs are mostly ineffective and anonymous grey suits, nakedly self-serving, and/or batshit insane.

If you want highsec CSMs, change highsec.

Oh, and your dear leader is the shining example of a someone who is NOT self-serving?
Oh, and let's not forget that little thing where he was booted in disgrace from the current CSM for displaying some sociopathic tendencies.

Gotta love goons. Facts and reality and zero bearing when you have a good story.

Oh, and your dear leader is the shining example of a someone who is NOT self-serving?

Facts and reality and zero bearing when you have a good story.

We have no 'assurances' that any 0.0 candidate won't get in and immediately reveal themselves as a L4 running carebear who wants CCP to delete 0.0 and ban highsec aggression. We have to evaluate the candidates and make our choices accordingly. Why should you be treated any differently?

'Oh its so hard to organise' is a red herring and you know it. It's just as hard for everyone else, but they get off their backsides and do it anyway, whilst highseccers whine and complain for big mummy CCP to hold their hands and wipe their arses for them.

I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke.

people say it's high sec peoples fault for not voting but that is an uneducated statement and naive, in that the alliance blocks have multiple accounts, that they afford by being some of the older players with most isk. they use these multiple accounts and isk they have in game to rig elections. There is a reason there is an alliance called "your vote doesn't count" I'm all for goons high sec ganking characters having a say in the discussion but my point is that there is no discussion right now. It's goons and their alts and allies yelling over the top of everyone else. "NO this is the way it has to be!"

And the one mechinism for players to be heard directly by ccp (CSM) is all null sec alliance members and one wh member.. which I'm sure does not represent the overall player base. I don't know the numbers but i highly doube 90% of people live in null sec.

I propose that ccp make it so that there are allotted positions for the various things in eve. Null, fw, high sec, pirating, ect ect.. and ccp should monitor who is linked to theses accounts so that goons cant just take one of their members other accounts and have it falsely represent a portion of the game they don't care about.

Also to say that null people have more invested in game is a bad argument. Why should my subscription be worth any less.. I have to actually pay for mine because i'm not in a null sec allinace with hundreds of trillions of iks so taht i can just buy plex with my account. New players and high sec care bears that enjoy that part of the game should receive a voice.

We have no 'assurances' that any 0.0 candidate won't get in and immediately reveal themselves as a L4 running carebear who wants CCP to delete 0.0 and ban highsec aggression. We have to evaluate the candidates and make our choices accordingly. Why should you be treated any differently?

'Oh its so hard to organise' is a red herring and you know it. It's just as hard for everyone else, but they get off their backsides and do it anyway, whilst highseccers whine and complain for big mummy CCP to hold their hands and wipe their arses for them.

Someone who griefs in high sec is hardly a representative of high sec.
That is the equivalent of suggesting some goon who spams Jita local all day and scams noobs is a high sec member.

Your stated purpose is to wipe out high sec.
I have lost count of the manifestos you have posted regarding your griefing of miners.
Nonetheless, I expect, you will get a ton of votes if you ran, based on every goon being TOLD to vote for you with their alts.

HAHA thats funny, yah i'm sure goons have a real problem with high sec spy infiltrators bringing down your organization. You are funny. It is not the same and you know it. Goons are teh ones who inflitrate every aspect of the game with alts and manipulate the game for their favor. Not high sec care bears.. we don't have the people or the funds like you do.

All i'm asking for is a person who represents high sec interests that i can go to and will at lease bring those concerns to csm.. which will be shot down by all the other members who are null sec but at least there is one person to represent. If high sec was able to get behind a candidate we would at least have one there are way more players in high sec then in null. The fact we are not able to even get one shows that it's just another system goons are able to manipulate with their numbers and wealth.

to answer whats not being represented..

High sec ganking concerns of the high sec members.
aggression timer mechanic that was put in for cap fleet warfare and didn't consider how it would effect high sec freighter pilots.
(If there is 15miute timer then freighters which are capitals then need to have capital type tanks).. or have shorter timer for high sec.
market manipulation through fw and through mineral manipulation that makes everything more expensive and creates financial barriers to newer players.
incursions which have been changed back and forth with no high sec voice.
missions which no one in null cares about has no high sec influence.

and many more .. also jsut to have representation is all i ask. To just say get organized in high sec is naive we have different problems then you do and to say "we have same problem in goons" no you dont thats like a rich person saying he has the same problems as a factory worker

All i'm asking for is a person who represents high sec interests that i can go to and will at lease bring those concerns to csm.

High sec ganking concerns of the high sec members.
aggression timer mechanic that was put in for cap fleet warfare and didn't consider how it would effect high sec freighter pilots.
(If there is 15miute timer then freighters which are capitals then need to have capital type tanks).. or have shorter timer for high sec.
market manipulation through fw and through mineral manipulation that makes everything more expensive and creates financial barriers to newer players.
incursions which have been changed back and forth with no high sec voice.
missions which no one in null cares about has no high sec influence.

To just say get organized in high sec is naive we have different problems then you do

GǪand you have two. If you want more, go out there and organise a campaign for more. It's really as simple as that.

If highsec really wants to vote someone to represent their interests, they would have done so.

Wormhole space managed to put a CSM in second place after Mittani, despite the fact that wormhole space is the least inhabited space in all of eve.

He doesn't want to EARN more he wants to be GIVEN more.

I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke.

Hisec is not motivated to vote because they have basically everything they want - safety, ridiculously low risk activities with ridiculously high reward, etc. etc.

Most of them don't view hisec as 'broken' the way you do because they either a) accept that a freighter hauling 10b of goods is going to get ganked or b) are hilariously unaware that ganks happen.

Considering the visibility of these ganks (they routinely top killboards, they're ~quite~ visible, etc etc) I don't think it's case B.

what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation..

I have seen many Threats like this.

I will run for HIGHSEC in CSM come next elections.

James 315 for CSM!

Said it before, will say it again.

Oh, and your dear leader is the shining example of a someone who is NOT self-serving?
Oh, and let's not forget that little thing where he was booted in disgrace from the current CSM for displaying some sociopathic tendencies.

Gotta love goons. Facts and reality and zero bearing when you have a good story.

You just lost a freighter I assume?
Also nothing is stopping you from becoming CSM for highsec or for getting someone to become CSM for highsec.

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There will never be a high sec CSM member. When someone from high sec runs for CSM, null sec makes fun of them...

Why on earth does CCP have to do everything "for the sake of high-sec?"
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not to mention you have a CSM or two right now.

Because the voting system is gamed for large alliances. Large alliances are not suitable for HI SEC

not to mention you have a CSM or two right now.