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D'Om K'vash
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:27:00 -
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I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke. |

lanyaie
599
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:29:00 -
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D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke.
You just lost a freighter I assume? Also nothing is stopping you from becoming CSM for highsec or for getting someone to become CSM for highsec. Hay |

Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
356
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:29:00 -
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99% of the things that affect nullsec and lowsec in a positive way will also be beneficial to highsec players |

Unsuccessful At Everything
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:29:00 -
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Not sure if making actual commentary on Eve politics, or buttraging over freighter loss.... |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
279
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:31:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke. You just lost a freighter I assume? Also nothing is stopping you from becoming CSM for highsec or for getting someone to become CSM for highsec.
omg ::effort:: \
Someone should obviously just do that for high sec without anyone in high sec having to lift a finger. Hell the protection in high sec is automated, why not the political representation?
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Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto We Sizwe
576
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:31:00 -
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I have seen many Threats like this.
I will run for HIGHSEC in CSM come next elections. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2334
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:33:00 -
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Turns out, people who only live in highsec don't know all that much about the game as a whole and dont get the votes because of it. |

Jim Era
4055
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:35:00 -
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Jim Era for CSM. |

D'Om K'vash
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:36:00 -
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more eve politics and that there is no representative for high sec. The 15minute aggression timer is a flawed mechanic and has no one to argue this point for the eve players who think so. It's only represented by the gankers. I'm saying that the richest players in eve are allowed to prey on the poorest and newest, and are allowed to set the rules without resistance.
Also "whats good for null and low is good for high sec" is a very funny statement and probably comes from a goon. The few should not be allowed to control the many and the weakest and poorest of eve players should have representation. Instead of being scoffed at when they make their points by the richest and oldest of the community who like a particular part of the game.
People that enjoy high sec and what it has to offer should be allowed to enjoy that part of the game and have representation to say what they would like changed.
Also you say nothing stops you.. well the problem is yah when the few in null sec have thousand man alliances and the isk to have 10 accounts so that they can throw infinite votes at their candidates. Then yah there is a barrier for newer less rich players to get into csm. |

Adi Adas
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:38:00 -
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Well, everyone gets a vote... Maybe its because highsec carebears didnt vote last time that its all nullsec people winning the seats? |

Velicitia
Open Designs
1163
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:40:00 -
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step 1: get a hisec block of players to get behind one (1) candidate (or few enough that they have a chance of winning)
Since that'll never happen (you have the miner supporter, the industrial supporter, the newb supporter, the ganker, some other interest group, etc) ... hisec will never have a representative -> it's far too fractured.
NULLSEC on the other hand has blocks of players (see: CFC with tens of thousands apparently) all voting for their friend (e.g. Mittens) ... or they don't bother with the petty squabble of "She's in IT" or "He's in PL" or other bullshit, and vote for the person they think will actually work for whatever platform is needed. Note that the vast majority of the nullsec platform is "make sov grind suck less" and "make PvP more fun" ... you know, the important EvE things...  |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
1563
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:40:00 -
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D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke. Maybe because the majority of hisec players doesn't really care about Eve or what's the future of Eve going to be? hence the lack of support or even candidates. CCP did nothing to prevent hisec players to take a seat in the CSM, it's the players fault for not doing so.
Sorry about the freighter loss bro, but this is Eve, random things happens sometimes for no reason or profit or just for the lulz. DWI. "I think weGÇÖre just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that itGÇÖs okay to lose." -Kristoffer Touborg, Eve lead designer |

James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2875
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:41:00 -
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Hmmm... Highsec could use some representation on the CSM, as long as it's the right person for the job. 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range. |

Mai Khumm
Omen Industries -Entropy-
270
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:42:00 -
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There will never be a high sec CSM member. When someone from high sec runs for CSM, null sec makes fun of them... "Being drunk is a good disguise. I drink so I can talk to a**holes. This includes me." |

baltec1
Bat Country
2334
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:42:00 -
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D'Om K'vash wrote:more eve politics and that there is no representative for high sec. The 15minute aggression timer is a flawed mechanic and has no one to argue this point for the eve players who think so. It's only represented by the gankers. I'm saying that the richest players in eve are allowed to prey on the poorest and newest, and are allowed to set the rules without resistance.
Also "whats good for null and low is good for high sec" is a very funny statement and probably comes from a goon. The few should not be allowed to control the many and the weakest and poorest of eve players should have representation. Instead of being scoffed at when they make their points by the richest and oldest of the community who like a particular part of the game.
People that enjoy high sec and what it has to offer should be allowed to enjoy that part of the game and have representation to say what they would like changed.
Also you say nothing stops you.. well the problem is yah when the few in null sec have thousand man alliances and the isk to have 10 accounts so that they can throw infinite votes at their candidates. Then yah there is a barrier for newer less rich players to get into csm.
Goons make up 1% of the population. Tell us more about how we out vote everyone in highsec. |

baltec1
Bat Country
2334
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:43:00 -
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Mai Khumm wrote:There will never be a high sec CSM member. When someone from high sec runs for CSM, null sec makes fun of them...
The has been high sec CSM before. I hear they threw a spoon at someone that didn't agree with them. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9701
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:49:00 -
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Yes there are. Two, in fact.
Seeing as how CSM usually has numerous GÇ£highsecGÇ¥ reps, this should come as no surprise. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
280
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Posted - 2012.10.03 18:49:00 -
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Sarah Schneider wrote:D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke. Maybe because the majority of hisec players doesn't really care about Eve or what's the future of Eve going to be? hence the lack of support or even candidates. CCP did nothing to prevent hisec players to take a seat in the CSM, it's the players fault for not doing so. Sorry about the freighter loss bro, but this is Eve, random things happens sometimes for no reason or profit or just for the lulz. DWI.
Well said.
I don't know this for sure so let me say I'm speculating up front, but I simpyl think the average hi-sec player doesn't have as much of a stake in the game.
The null sec player has his (Alliance) "name on the map" so to speak, probably puts in a lot of hours playing the game and is more emotionally invested in the game. The low sec and WH players also have to put a lot of time and effort in.
SOME high people spend a lot fo time doing what they do, but most of them probably log on just long enough to run incursions or misions for maybe an hour, or set their ship up to afk autopilot somewhere before bed ect ect.
They are not invested din the game, they probably play other non-eve games more often that low, null or WH players do. And for some, they probably wouldn't care much if CCP shut down tommorow and EVE died, they'd just find something else to do. for people like me, EVE dying would be followed by a period of actual mourning lol.
It's an Election year in America, and i just read a story the other day about how rich people were so much more likely to vote than poor people, mainly because rich people feel like they have something to lose. High Sec players just don't have much to lose, so not much voting. |

Alexa Coates
Red Fleet
187
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:00:00 -
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I'm going to run for CSM next time around, and i'm virtually highsec only. so... VOTE FOR ME! Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |

Unsuccessful At Everything
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:02:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:Jim Era for CSM.
You have my vote sir, just for the laughs of reading the CSM minutes.
When asked about how we should deal with highsec, Jim Era stands up and says "Wat". |

Denidil
Evocations of Shadow Eternal Evocations
531
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:07:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Hmmm... Highsec could use some representation on the CSM, as long as it's the right person for the job. 
no, **** off troll. Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design. |

Zhade Lezte
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:14:00 -
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Are you denying James315's playstyle as a valid one? He lives in highsec, why are you trying to disenfranchise his voice     |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9703
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:15:00 -
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He's probably one of those nullsec zealots you hear so much about, who doesn't want to see anyone who's deeply familiar with highsec and its mechanics on the CSM.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Generals4
1518
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:16:00 -
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D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke.
Considering CSM's are getting elected the only ones you can blame are the ones who don't vote. If high sec dwellers would actually vote en mass like null dwellers high sec would most likely get a couple of representatives. (don't forget null/low dwellers have high sec alts)
This isn't some kind of CCP conspiracy. -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
1266
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:18:00 -
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D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke. During the elections I was VERY vocal on the forums about this.
High-sec needs to pick a candidate and unite behind him or her. Instead, you guys are so disorganized you split your votes between a dozen candidates. Certain high-sec players even expressed on the forums that they would not support a unified candidate. That's problematic, to say the very least, considering your adversaries in these elections are better organized than most high-sec players could imagine.
So my advice is to establish a high-sec candidate by whatever means necessary and try to get your fellow...erm...players to do likewise. Otherwise, no, there will never be a high-sec CSM representative due to vote-splitting.
My 2 ISK. [EDIT] Oh damn. I totally forgot about Issler. Where is she anyway?
LOL [/EDIT] He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:18:00 -
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D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke.
You're looking for Issler and Keldum. Those are the highsec pubbie CSM members. Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1423
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:19:00 -
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D'Om K'vash wrote:I'm going through list of csm members and all i see is null sec.. null sec.. null sec.. worm hole.. null sec.. i mean jesus christ the keys to the asylum have been handed to the inmates. what is it 20% of all players live in null and they are 80%of the eve community representation.. ******* awesome ccp. No wonder there is a 15minute aggression timer for a ship getting pointed. Dull sec goons put it there so they can make billions ganking freighters with their bump machariels and 2 day condors points to get aggression. What a joke.
Issler Dainze is the CSM rep that you requested, desired, required and deserved. . |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
681
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:22:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:Oh damn. I totally forgot about Issler. Where is she anyway? I seem to recall a ton of bluster during the last election about "debating in the public spaces of EVE" and I was wondering where and when this was going to happen. Nothing Found |

Imports Plus
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:22:00 -
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Darth Gustav wrote:High-sec needs to pick a candidate and unite behind him or her. Instead, you guys are so disorganized you split your votes between a dozen candidates. Certain high-sec players even expressed on the forums that they would not support a unified candidate. That's problematic, to say the very least, considering your adversaries in these elections are better organized than most high-sec players could imagine.
The vast majority of the vast majority of high sec players are only interested in setting their accounts to mining while they go to work or play CoD. Keep this afk functionality and they could care less about the CSM, the game or anything for that matter. |

Imports Plus
State War Academy Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:24:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:Oh damn. I totally forgot about Issler. Where is she anyway? I seem to recall a ton of bluster during the last election about "debating in the public spaces of EVE" and I was wondering where and when this was going to happen.
Your prophets have forsaken you Highsec.. |
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