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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas your CEO should spank you for your ignorance. I'm told that's a popular punishment within your corporation.
Let the war declaration come, you obviously will be greatly surprised when you face us in battle.
I regret to inform you but that's not a popular punishment within our corporation.
It's a pleasurable pastime
Besides, the CVA are blinded by their own religion. You choose to hide your actions behind the shadow of your 'god' because you are too afraid to accept responsibilty for them yourselves.
If it comes to war so be it, and I shall look forward to watching the glow from your ship's hull as it fireballs in a blaze of destruction.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/03/2005 18:47:28
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 15/03/2005 18:37:54
When it all boils down to it I guess its just the case that if I had to choose between peace in a society that exists on the suffering of my fellow sentients and violence and warfare and anarachy. I'd choose the latter. And I guess thats why I joined Jericho and why we helped to form Star Fraction.
You dare to accuse us of promoting suffering?
Do people not suffer during warfare? Do people not suffer due to violence? Does suffering not go hand in hand with anarchy?
And yet you freely choose to promote all of those things
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Your kind of stability is worse than war. And you know I didn't learn Drone Interface V and Large Hybrid Specialisation IV just to watch some fat oppressive regime kick over old ladies and feed kids addictive poison for their fun and amusement.
I mean really.
If that's meant to scare us, it failed.
Apart from the fact that there is no such qualification as "Large Hybrid Specialisation IV", I'm sure we have pilots far more skilled in combat than you.
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:47:00 -
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The Cosmopolite, a grave misnaming if I ever saw one.
You are fresh within the halls of Jericho Fraction. So you might only have heard tiny bits of their dream, the dream of free Pure Blind where pilots can fly safe from pirates.
CVA is making such a dream a reality in parts of Providence and in Lower Domain.
Where you want to do something, we do it and achieve it.
I think that's the final judgement on any alliance. Did it or did it not achieve it's aims.
Yours hasn't.
Ours has.
Nothing more to say.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
When it all boils down to it I guess its just the case that if I had to choose between peace in a society that exists on the suffering of my fellow sentients and violence and warfare and anarachy. I'd choose the latter.
So there you have it.
You exist to create violence, warfare and anarchy!
You criticise us for the inhumanity of slavery - yet you wish to create a galaxy far more chaotic, disorderly and dangerous...
The entire concept is detesable. You may view slavery as an evil but what you propose is even worse. Warfare and anarchy are not painless - far from it in fact. If you suceed you may free the slaves but who would want to be free in the society you envision.
You wish to plunge the galaxy into a new dark age - a time of terror and destruction.
Thank god such insanity will never happen!
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:52:00 -
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Quote: You dare to accuse us of promoting suffering? Do people not suffer during warfare? Do people not suffer due to violence? Does suffering not go hand in hand with anarchy?
In'tresting questions to which I guess the answers gotta be. Ummm, yes, yes, yes, dunno (I'm not a philosopher you'd have to ask my cousin). I guess I'm saying you kinda institutionalise suffering and make it part of your economy as a common day occurance rather than tranformative state, that make sense to you? (Best I can do)
Quote: If that's meant to scare us, it failed. Apart from the fact that there is no such qualification as "Large Hybrid Specialisation IV", I'm sure we have pilots far more skilled in combat than you.
Oops my bad I meant "Large Hybrid Blaster Spec" of course but it was just a metaphor y'know? I wasn't trying to be uber literal and saying "I'll beat you all with my mega blaster skills" I was saying that I spent too long training for war to be happy to sit by and do nothing when theres an obviously unjust crime against sentience doing the rounds.
Ya'dig daddy-o?
Star Fraction
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:58:00 -
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We feed the poor, and an unhealthy slave is a worthless slave so we take good care of them.
What good is it to have the freedom to go anywhere you want if your stomach is empty, your clothes torn and you don't have funds nor means to go anywhere.
Some freedom that is.
Not everyone can be self-sufficient, I'm sure your blaspheming genetic engineer can inform you of why that is.
The difference is that instead of living in the gutter in your empires, each and everyone, we take care of our own and feed them and put clothes on their back.
Which is the greater thing to aspire to, to live on or die in squalor?
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.03.15 18:58:00 -
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Boo.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:04:00 -
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What can i say? I'm not supporting the Minmatar Terrorists we warred upon, i'm not supporting their actions, i'm not even supporting the Minmatar Republic.
Omerta Syndicate has its own motivations for both involvement within Star Fraction, and within this conflict.
Oh, and Joshua, Star Fraction isn't all Gallente, the nice Amarrians would have to deal with us, too. So not all Gallente ships at all...
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Yuki Li
Omerta Syndicate has its own motivations for both involvement within Star Fraction, and within this conflict.
I would be very interested to hear what those motivations are.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Quote: You dare to accuse us of promoting suffering? Do people not suffer during warfare? Do people not suffer due to violence? Does suffering not go hand in hand with anarchy?
In'tresting questions to which I guess the answers gotta be. Ummm, yes, yes, yes, dunno (I'm not a philosopher you'd have to ask my cousin). I guess I'm saying you kinda institutionalise suffering and make it part of your economy as a common day occurance rather than tranformative state, that make sense to you? (Best I can do)
Excuse me if this all a little bit too philosophical for you m'dear, but are you viewing this a neo-classical conflict between the forces of law and chaos?
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 15/03/2005 19:14:28
Originally by: Hardin Yes that confuses me as well Al Haquis...
As far as I can see Omerta Syndicate, who I have a lot of respect for, are part of the Star Fraction alliance...
Until recently Omerta Sysndicate were are war with the very Minmatar terrorists that the Star Fraction now seem to be exchanging bodily fluids with...
Has Omerta Syndicate changed its mind about the economic depredation of the terrorists? Do they support the blackmail and threats of their alliance?
Or will they sit maintain their convictions and sit this conflict out?
I can no longer speak for Omerta Syndicate, due to my recent change in employment, but I can say this: you presume a lot that might be some distance from actual facts. I am quite certain that the Omerta Syndicate is pursuing the same motivations and ideals it did while I served as it's political officer. If anyone is confused, it is probably because you don't have the whole picture.
However, if you ever thought that the earlier involvement of the Omerta Syndicate in armed conflict with certain Ushra'Khan corporations was an official sanction on your slavery practices, then you were mistaken. I know.
And no, I'm not going to give the "whole picture" to anyone. That's all up to you to find out. Now just find sense and hand over those Sebiestors. I don't like seeing such exquisite individuals in bondage.
Well, not that type of bondage, at least.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:19:00 -
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I think now that we know what the Star Fraction thinks of the CVA and the forthcoming charity slave auction.
As a side issue, I'm mildly curious to know what the Star Fraction's policy is regarding slave ownership in general.
Would you like to see it outlawed throughout human space?
Do you ban member corps and their employees from holding slaves?
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tatsue Nuko Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 15/03/2005 19:14:28
Originally by: Hardin Yes that confuses me as well Al Haquis...
As far as I can see Omerta Syndicate, who I have a lot of respect for, are part of the Star Fraction alliance...
Until recently Omerta Sysndicate were are war with the very Minmatar terrorists that the Star Fraction now seem to be exchanging bodily fluids with...
Has Omerta Syndicate changed its mind about the economic depredation of the terrorists? Do they support the blackmail and threats of their alliance?
Or will they sit maintain their convictions and sit this conflict out?
I can no longer speak for Omerta Syndicate, due to my recent change in employment, but I can say this: you presume a lot that might be some distance from actual facts. I am quite certain that the Omerta Syndicate is pursuing the same motivations and ideals it did while I served as it's political officer. If anyone is confused, it is probably because you don't have the whole picture.
However, if you ever thought that the earlier involvement of the Omerta Syndicate in armed conflict with certain Ushra'Khan corporations was an official sanction on your slavery practices, then you were mistaken. I know.
And no, I'm not going to give the "whole picture" to anyone. That's all up to you to find out. Now just find sense and hand over those Sebiestors. I don't like seeing such exquisite individuals in bondage.
Well, not that type of bondage, at least.
The only reason to have fought beside us against the Matari terrorists would have been to stop their efforts to free their "brethren." Any other "reason" is just a cover-up to please your current bedfellows. You have even adopted their crude behavior. Oh, how the righteous have fallen.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 15/03/2005 19:22:40
Quote: I would be very interested to hear what those motivations are.
So would I.
Regardless, you should know better.
PIE inc will never aknowledge your claims. We will never back down. And we will defend Amarran Space against all who come to it with hostile intent.
Have any of you ever faced the Golden Fleet? Do you have any idea what it is you are getting into?
Amarr are the people of God, we dont need your approval... indeed we dont really care what you think. But know this, if you come and attack we will be ready.
And your frozen corpses will litter the skies amongst the wreckage of your broken ships.
I suggest you back down on your blustering threats now.
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Ciar Meara
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:24:00 -
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Any hostile action taken by these gallante weaklings will swiftly turn into a demoralizing and shamefull defeat of these decadent outsiders.
These demands are nothing more then a joke, an excuse for a war you will most certainly regret starting. Our faith in our Emperor, our God and our way of life shall lay waste to your puny ideas of so called freedom and decadent way of life.
PIE Inc A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tarm The only reason to have fought beside us against the Matari terrorists would have been to stop their efforts to free their "brethren." Any other "reason" is just a cover-up to please your current bedfellows. You have even adopted their crude behavior. Oh, how the righteous have fallen.
I don't know how exactly to approach this, since... you are just plain wrong. Educate yourself please.
Omerta Syndicate did not fight "beside" you. Pursuant of my position in Omerta I solicited advisory from PIE before we made our announcement and submitted the datawork to Concord processing. On a few occasions combat gangs were shared with AmAx and some others. Intelligence channels were also shared at some points. Those were all conveniences for the Omerta Syndicate. Absolutely nothing else that you might have dreamed up in your superiority delirium.
Seems PIE are at least as confused about Omerta's reasons for war as Ushra'Khan... Might be because you are so caught up with your own motivations that you can't fathom the possibility of someone having reasons of their own to be present in any conflict or alliance?
Originally by: Ciar Meara Any hostile action taken by these gallante weaklings will swiftly turn into a demoralizing and shamefull defeat of these decadent outsiders.
Oh, but it's not the Gallente Weaklings you should worry about...
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin I suppose you would like to cast yourself in this light - after all that is what this is all about isn't it?
Rather than just talking the talk the CVA has been out and done it.
Just look at the number of pilots now operating in and around Kheram, Misaba and Mamet. These were derelict areas inhabited only by pirates... Now they are profitable and contributing parts of the Amarr Empire...
We have been there and done it. We have done our bit to minimise piracy. We have helped change people's lives for the better (as the Holder's award demonstrated)... What have you done?
What you have done is jump on a terrorist bandwagon... Your threat to us has consequences not just to the CVA but on everyone who relys on us to keep their spacelanes free of pirates and terrorists...
You should be ashamed...
Jericho has been fighting for over a year to end the tyranny of the closed space xenophobes in the north. Our idelogy calls for nothing more. We arent the police man of Pure Blind. People are responsible for their own safety, even if they just learn to evade pirates.
You just make others dependant on you, they will go to great lengths to keep your protection, you arent making their lives better, just making them trade freedom for safety. It is a master/slave relationship and we find that abhorent. And yes we do value freedom over safety and stability. --------------------------------------------------
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:37:00 -
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I love the way you CVA keep trying to slander us 'Gallente'. You should know that I myself am Intaki, a fact I am very proud of. Tatsue is Caldari as is theRaptor. Cosmo is infact an Amarrian.
To be honest, I'm willing to fight you for you even daring to call me Gallente.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 15/03/2005 20:51:33
Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas The Cosmopolite, a grave misnaming if I ever saw one.
Well, you are clearly completely ignorant of the derivation of my name and I can tell you it is not from the modern usage but rather has a noble history of being used by free-thinkers and scientific adventurers.
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You are fresh within the halls of Jericho Fraction. So you might only have heard tiny bits of their dream, the dream of free Pure Blind where pilots can fly safe from pirates.
My compliments to your intelligence division but the length of my association with Jericho Fraction is neither here nor there. My ideals have been coterminous with both my current corporation and the alliance to which I belong for a very long time.
As to the aims of The Star Fraction: they are of completely different character to yours. We aim not at the imposition of a spurious and transient 'peace' but the establishment of a capsuleer ethos of mutually reinforced self-protection and self-determination. Not for us a fatally flawed attempt to 'police' freespace; rather, we wish to empower like-minded pilots.
The Cosmopolite
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:39:00 -
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I'm putting my money on the unexpected third party that's bound to arise at some point.
It'd be funny if you declare on the U'K too, Fractionists, that way you can have a three-way
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation I'm putting my money on the unexpected third party that's bound to arise at some point.
It'd be funny if you declare on the U'K too, Fractionists, that way you can have a three-way
Personally, I don't need to war the U'K to have a three-way
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Burga Galti
Personally, I don't need to war the U'K to have a three-way
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That's right, your hands are sufficient.
see what I did there, totally juvinile, like
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: theRaptor on 15/03/2005 19:57:35
Originally by: Discorporation I'm putting my money on the unexpected third party that's bound to arise at some point.
It'd be funny if you declare on the U'K too, Fractionists, that way you can have a three-way
Does that third parties name begin and end with "B"?
* theRaptor slips Disco a large quantity of non sequential bills in a brown paper bag. --------------------------------------------------
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ciar Meara Any hostile action taken by these gallante weaklings will swiftly turn into a demoralizing and shamefull defeat of these decadent outsiders.
These demands are nothing more then a joke, an excuse for a war you will most certainly regret starting. Our faith in our Emperor, our God and our way of life shall lay waste to your puny ideas of so called freedom and decadent way of life.
Gallente? I could have sworn Omerta Syndicate was a Caldari corporation? Look at the bigger picture, please.
It'll matter not, should CVA not comply, i'll be the Raven class battleship turning you to debris. Check your clone contract - i know you old men tend to get a little forgetful, and i'd hate to be the cause of you forgetting how to pilot your ship...
We were never allies, Amarrians. I hold no ill will towards you, So feel free to hand over the slaves and avoid any conflict.
If not, you'll be seeing me.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.03.15 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Burga Galti
Personally, I don't need to war the U'K to have a three-way
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That's right, your hands are sufficient.
see what I did there, totally juvinile, like
Well if you want to take hands into the equation as individual entities, I guess we're talking a 9 way.
your better at this juvinile stuff than me, I must have spent too much time in the wonderful company of the glamour bunnies I guess
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.03.15 20:00:00 -
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This will be most interesting. If Star Fraction is so against slavery, then maybe you should take your threats and gripes to the heathen assembly of CONCORD. They are the ones who [for some reason have the right to] say that the slave trade is legal within Empire borders. If you truly are anti-slavery, then your first issue is with them, the multi-empire spanning universal law [*spits on the deck] that condones it. After you've dealt with them, then take it up with Imperials who participate in it. Odd how slavery is legal and condoned, but "freedom fighting" has to be approved on a case by case basis (with a CONCORD sanctioned declaration of war) for it to be legal.
Your excuse of wanting to free slaves is pale, transparent even. You will kill ten thousand times the number you're trying to "save" by attacking CVA. You all really don't need an excuse for masochism and suicide. After you're done, these 500 slaves will be forgoten my both sides, whether they are alive or not.
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.03.15 20:03:00 -
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You think too small, Revenant.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.15 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Burga Galti
Well if you want to take hands into the equation as individual entities, I guess we're talking a 9 way.
your better at this juvinile stuff than me, I must have spent too much time in the wonderful company of the glamour bunnies I guess
Yeah, I remember seeing that holoreel when I was young "GALLENTEAN OCTOPODS ATTACK".
Always wondered how they were doing.
How are you doing?
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.15 20:08:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Have any of you ever faced the Golden Fleet? Do you have any idea what it is you are getting into?
I once faced, and used, the "Golden Toilet", but the next day I discovered (much to my chagrine) that it was in fact an ancient 'antique' musical instrument called a 'Tuba'. I naturally paid La Maison for the complete restoration of the said instrument.
It's a mistake anyone could make after one too many Starsi*****tails.
Is your Golden Fleet a bit like that toilet? -- ** All accounts cancelled - have fun guys ** |
Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.03.15 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Burga Galti
Well if you want to take hands into the equation as individual entities, I guess we're talking a 9 way.
your better at this juvinile stuff than me, I must have spent too much time in the wonderful company of the glamour bunnies I guess
Yeah, I remember seeing that holoreel when I was young "GALLENTEAN OCTOPODS ATTACK".
Always wondered how they were doing.
How are you doing?
Damn Amarrians, you never learn.
That'll be an INTAKI OCTOPOD thank you very much. I don't know, some people eh?
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