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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.17 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Edited by: Khaldorn Murino on 17/03/2005 10:52:50 These are people. They belong to no man.
It pains me to see them being used in such a way. Bartered as if they were nothing but commodities.
We will come for our people. We will bring them home. For that is all we care about.
Rather naive of you, as they're bought and sold daily all over the Empire. That implies to me that they are property.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2005.03.17 12:44:00 -
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Edited by: GoGo Yubari on 17/03/2005 12:49:34
Originally by: Discorporation
'Scuse me, last time I checked, the Intaki were a part of the Gallente Federation.
Check again.
Not all of us are Federalist lapdogs. Indeed, a sizable portion of us formed the first freespace enclave in the galactic frontier.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.17 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: GoGo Yubari
Check again.
Not all of us are Federalist lapdogs. Indeed, a sizable portion of us formed the first freespace enclave in the galactic frontier.
You mean the Syndicate?
Tell me, the Thukker are not a part of the Republic, yet we call 'em minmatar. The U'K aren't a part of the Republic, but we call 'em minmatar.
Why shouldn't we call Intake Gallente? your home world certainly is Gallentan property.
[chuckles]
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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GoGo Yubari
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Posted - 2005.03.17 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
You mean the Syndicate?
Tell me, the Thukker are not a part of the Republic, yet we call 'em minmatar. The U'K aren't a part of the Republic, but we call 'em minmatar.
Why shouldn't we call Intake Gallente? your home world certainly is Gallentan property.
[chuckles]
I see even you've caught some of the nasty Federal engineered memes they so like to spread around. Vile, mind-bending stuff. Usually comes with a craving for Quafe.
I've a cleansing program for that if you ever need one.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.17 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: Discorporation on 17/03/2005 13:39:11 Oh, memes. Fun.
My favourite one is "There is no "I" in "the beholder"".
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.17 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: cold lazarus Being an ex member of PIE i can well imagine the glee in the corp chat now of yet another corp wanting to burn its name into the history books by destroying the CVA. When all they will actualy do is just burn.
Stop spreading clumsy propaganda.
We do not want to destroy the CVA. Infact we don not want to destroy anyone. But we will interfere in what happens in free space, and we will attempt to destroy the imperialist mind set.
This is not a potential war against God (we have many believers amongst our members), the Amarr Empire (no more then any of the empires) or any other of your favourite icons with which you stir up the masses.
The issue of your actions (which are offensive to our basic ideals) in free space, being rewarded with slaves (another thing most of our members find offensive) is what started this.
Yes CVA got "picked on" because you made the news. But due to internal debate in our alliance it was decided high profile, militarily competent targets were the only legitimete ones. You just happend to be the perfect symbol of what we fight against, and would give us a decent fight. We do not wish to smash small corps or be accused of empire piracy against the large alliances as our first public action. --------------------------------------------------
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Hamish
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Posted - 2005.03.17 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation The U'K aren't a part of the Republic, but we call 'em minmatar.
Actually it's the PRM that isn't part of the Republic, parts of Ushra'Khan (those corporations that were not in PRM) have not left the Republic.
The Hamish Saga - by HellGremlin |

Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2005.03.17 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake If you, like us, do not desire war, the simple solution would be for you to persuade your allies to not declare war on us.
To assume that I've done nothing less would be a rather enormous mischaracterization of my persona or an assumption of disingenuousness on my part. In either case, I wouldn't fathom taking it personally, as such engenders narrowmindedness and gross generalizations that lead down the slippery slope of perpetual stupidity.
Originally by: Lianhaun
I'm afraid that is all you can expect of the Gallente, talk and talk, more meetings in backrooms and old fashioned ideology, which buys you nothing. In fact, you may be losing time and isk in dealinsg with them.
I'm not sure I could induce further brevity in my statement without muddling the message. I prefer to get the point accross as succinctly as I can.
Originally by: Lianhaun
This is why you are the winning side, you seem to realise that at a certain point talk is over and there needs to be action.
I'm quite prepared for the what seems to be an inevitable conclusion, even if I am a talkative Gallentean woman. However, the avenue for diplomacy will always be open for the both parties so long as I'm present, despite the rattle of wardrums in the distance.
Originally by: Lianhaun
I'm not a firm believer in peace, war can be so very profitable in so many ways. Yet I respect the wishes of the CVA and wish that Star Faction has the clear mind to accept a private chat.
My mind, for the most part, is clear enough for open dialogue with any party regarding this conflict. I like to think I've evolved far enough to respect the opinions of others, even if I don't necessarily agree with them.
Originally by: Lianhaun
I bet they'll bring exotic dancers just to distract the negotiations using some far fetched excuse, be warned and send your most strong willed and pristine minds when meeting with them
I hope they bring Hardin. 
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri I wish you good luck Ms. Doyle. I regret that your allies seem to have no intention of pursueing any action save war in this matter and hope that peaceloving folk can halt this before it starts.
It's encouraging to know that we can still maintain civility and an open dialogue during a crisis such as this, and reaffirms my belief that an agreement beneficial to both parties may still be feasible.
Thank you for your time and lots of love, xoxo Glamour Bunnies Entertainment Corporation
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2005.03.17 18:27:00 -
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Quote: I bet they'll bring exotic dancers just to distract the negotiations using some far fetched excuse, be warned and send your most strong willed and pristine minds when meeting with them
Still planning on using missiles, personally, but sure.
[ 2004.07.31 17:31:00 ] (combat) Gallente Police Major strikes you perfectly, wrecking for 427.9 damage.
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.03.17 18:29:00 -
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As much as it pains me to say this, I have to fall on CVA's side on this particular issue.
Star Fraction's motives are dubious at best. I find it incredibly hard to believe that they are really so terribly concerned about slaves when I have personally spoken to Jade Constantine about this matter a month ago and she placed slavery within the Amarrian Empire very far down on the list of priorities... the top priority was toppling the outer alliances. Another goal which is dubious at best in both its sincerity and its logic.
I don't condone CVA's actions, but in this particular case, I consider Star Fraction's actions to be troubling. -----------------------------------------------
ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2005.03.17 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
As much as it pains me to say this, I have to fall on CVA's side on this particular issue.
Star Fraction's motives are dubious at best. I find it incredibly hard to believe that they are really so terribly concerned about slaves when I have personally spoken to Jade Constantine about this matter a month ago and she placed slavery within the Amarrian Empire very far down on the list of priorities... the top priority was toppling the outer alliances. Another goal which is dubious at best in both its sincerity and its logic.
I don't condone CVA's actions, but in this particular case, I consider Star Fraction's actions to be troubling.
Perhaps recent events shifted them to a higher priority. Star Fraction is not a static entity; we are always evolving, always changing.
But what other motives could we have in wanting to engage CVA? We don't claim space, so territorial conquest is out. We're certainly not doing this for sport, nor to spill blood for no reason.
We were always uneasy about CVA's plans of imperial expansion; unclaimed space should remain unclaimed. And past history shows what the Amarr will do if a yet-undiscovered colony of humans is out in that region of space.
Personally, as someone who won't let his fellow man fall under the yoke of oppression, I can't let that happen. ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |

Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.19 14:22:00 -
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An Update
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.03.19 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
An Update
Interesting read - obviously propaganda or it would never have found its way onto GalNet.
We shall, of course, be capitulating immediately under the sheer weight of your paperwork - right after we finish our ice-skating party in that active volcano we discovered. *coughs*
Now - where did I leave that cake...? Ah - yes. I remember now... Amarr Prime... Pretty statue for a picnic. -- ** All accounts cancelled - have fun guys ** |

Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.03.19 15:02:00 -
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Quote: "We were always uneasy about CVA's plans of imperial expansion; unclaimed space should remain unclaimed. And past history shows what the Amarr will do if a yet-undiscovered colony of humans is out in that region of space."
Your logic fails me. We are not "expanding" our Empire and if we were to do so it would be the will of God. No in fact the Providence corridor is part of the Amarrian Empire if you check a map. How can we "expand" that which is already ours?
While the forces of CVA have achieved great victories in the early days of this conflict rest assured we do not become complacent. We realize you are an enemy of great financial resources and determination. While I do not respect your anarchisitc lifestyle of decadence I do respect your determination and desire to fight for what you believe in. Understand we too will fight for what we believe in. We leave it for God to sort out.
Archbishop
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Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2005.03.19 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
An Update
Allow me to update your kill list. Melissandra is a member of the Glamour Bunnies, not (unknown). But I think you knew that already.
It's most unfortunate you've chosen this course of action.  Glamour Bunnies Entertainment Corporation
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.19 17:15:00 -
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Just so you are aware Kayleigh we did tell our pilots to leave the Glamour Bunnies alone...
However on several occasion Glamour Bunny pilots have strayed into systems where we have been occupied in hostilities with other members of Star Fraction. Systems such as Yulai and Amarr.
I am not aware of the precise situation surrounding the death of Melissandra but it is regrettable that she has got caught up in this. I know of at least one occasion where CVA pilots allowed a Glamour Bunny to pass safely.
Nonetheless you are part of an alliance that is at war with us. In the heat of battle it is not always possible to make specific identifiation on the blinking red target before action is taken.
We bear no specific grudge against Glamour Bunnies but if your pilots are going to stray into war zones then these things will happen...
Regretable but true...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.19 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 19/03/2005 17:23:16
Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle
Originally by: Hardin
An Update
Allow me to update your kill list. Melissandra is a member of the Glamour Bunnies, not (unknown). But I think you knew that already.
It's most unfortunate you've chosen this course of action. 
We do not fight SF through choice. This war was declared upon us.
What was unfortunate was that the SF declared upon us.
What was unfortunate was that a Glamour Bunnies pilot chose to enter a system that was the scene of ongoing combat between SF and CVA forces. In the circumstances, it is hardly surprising that she ended up in a rabbit pie.
Whilst we are prepared to show mercy in certain circumstances to pilots of SF corporations who voted against this foolish war, our pilots do not always have time to check the corporation of every pilot they meet, and so all targets tagged as an enemy are prone to be fired on when they are in a warzone.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.03.19 17:24:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 19/03/2005 17:25:22 My lady, We have not Chosen this course of action.
Your allies have chosen it for you. There is no time withen the modern state of war to spend time checking what enemy corporation withen an enemy alliance that your target is a member of, therefor any SF pilots not wishing war should stay out of Domain and Providence, and be careful withen the area around Yulai. For I will not tell my pilots not to eleminate anything their computer considers hostile as that would be a dereliction of duty and risk losing their lives and crew.
The deaths of every pilot and crewmember who have died so far are on the hands of those withen the Star Fraction who engineered. I urge those against this madness to vacate the warzone so that fewer casualties happen among their ranks.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |

AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.03.19 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 19/03/2005 17:25:22 For I will not tell my pilots not to eleminate anything their computer considers.
We have come to expect nothing less from you. I expect SF know exactyl what to expect from you also. No quarter, as you get none from us. ---------------------------------
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