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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 15/03/2005 10:38:14
 Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 15/03/2005 06:37:23
Originally by: Graelyn
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The Star Fraction council grants Curatores Veritatis until 23:59 hours on the evening of 17/03 to deliver the Sebiestor 500 to our care at a mutual location of convenience in Gallente space.
You aren't too familiar with Gallente Customs laws, are you?
Well doh! If they are on their way to freedom they aren't "slaves" anymore are they mr Graelyn. (I reckon gallente customs would reclassify them as "exotic dancers" if we passed them a few million isk to clear the diplomatic channels.
I think that we see here the Star Fractions true aims. They do not want the slaves to be truly free. What they do want is more workers for the sex trade.
If released to the Star Fraction, I have no doubt that these well trained, well cared for workers would be forced to work in sleazy bars where they would be eyed up by lusty Caldari businessmen, or worse, made to pleasure Brutors in some dingy back alley.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros
Quite the acerbic tongue you have.
No, note I said personally. Jerome Atandros the individual and Jerome Atandros the Star Fraction representative are two different personas.
We have medication for that, nowadays.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Atandros
Originally by: Rodj Blake
So, you will attack us even if we submit to your demands?
Admitting to that hardly seems like the best way for your to secure the release of the workers.
If you've ever paid for training in negotiation or diplomacy, I think that maybe you should ask for your money back.
Quite the acerbic tongue you have.
No, note I said personally. Jerome Atandros the individual and Jerome Atandros the Star Fraction representative are two different personas.
Tell me, is it Star Fraction policy for thier members to spout as much hatred as they want, even if it jeopardises the alliance's aims?
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: Atandros
Quite the acerbic tongue you have.
No, note I said personally. Jerome Atandros the individual and Jerome Atandros the Star Fraction representative are two different personas.
We have medication for that, nowadays.
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
All the world knows that this is merely an attempt by renegades and malcontents to annex Providence for the Empire in order to curry favour with their lords and masters.
Your lack of knowledge is astounding, former citizen.
To label the CVA as renegades and malcontents after they've received numerous plaudits and recognition by the Empire shows your lack of knowledge of your own race.
As for this threat against the Amarrian way of life, this is why I left the service of the Emperor. So I could be on the frontlines serving the Empire and defending it.
My family took part in the Starkmanir extinction. I can not wait to take part in a repeat of that historic cleansing.
Your hulls will burn, your corpses scattered in the void.
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Aphoxema G
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Posted - 2005.03.15 10:52:00 -
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Aphoxema saw a thread getting popular that she hadn't yet participated in. Scanning through the posts, she completely missed the point, was hit like a shell by her histrionic drive, and leapt straight into a reply..
So, uh, yeah! We ought'ta get down to this business and stuff and teach those guys a lesson! I mean, so many people agreed with that, and like, I'm Sebiestor and stuff, I think.
So, yeah! WOOO!
She would burn redder than a star if she'd realized how rediculous her way of constantly switching sides based on popularity appeared. She'd learn better soon enough, but the lesson would be a hard one; Her motivation was faster than her wit and whim combined.
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.03.15 11:01:00 -
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Hoorah! FOr the Star Fraction, i seriosuly hope though that you will backup these words with action...
And to those in the CVA dont think its gone un-noticed by us here in the UK, we will find our brothers and sisters and they will be freed...you have my word on that...
Our traditions are flawed and distorted by you the Holders, the greatest evil ever to be let loose on the galaxy, you are like a virus eating away from the core of amarran society, more like the damned caldari profit mongers the problem with you lot is your so fanatical...damn clothheads..
I personally demand you release those 500 slaves to me 
otherwise ill just come and take them by force
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.15 11:03:00 -
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how can holders eat away at the core when they ARE the core :/
We're civilised, not cannibals
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Meehan
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Posted - 2005.03.15 11:03:00 -
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"Master?"
It was Orlein, the Sebiestor slave Meehan had owned since birth - now 16 years old and a promising talent, gifted both spiritually and mentally.
"Yes, my young aphogee?" Meehan replied as he crawled out of the Malediction Class Interceptor TES Panther II's turret hardpoint. These new Medium Pulses were a real hassle to install.
"There was just a transmission over the GalNet - I downloaded it for you!" Orlein said and stretched out a hand with a holoreel in it.
"Play it." Meehan commanded while wiping the oil residue from the turret's hydraulic systems off his hands on an old rug he had carried in his back pocket. Orlein hit the playswitch, displaying the ultimatum the Star Fraction had just transmitted.
"Oh dear." Meehan responded. More enemies was never a good thing - Meehan already had a rough time coping with all the Matari rebels. That and that he had always liked the Gallente who, unlike the brute savages of the Republic, had earned their sovereignity and civilization.
"Well, thank you Orlein. Withdraw a few thousand credits from my account and take a few days off. There should be a shuttle heading back for Nalu tomorrow if you want to visit your friends. I have to go for a few days and won't be back till Monday. I expect you back here by then though. Understood?"
"Yes, master. Shall I take my literature along with me?"
Meehan blinked.
"Uhm... yes, do that. Good thinking!" Surprisingly enough, Orlein cared more for the scriptures than Meehan himself did - so much that he actually knew more about their contents than did his master. A promising talent indeed.
"That will be all, Orlein. Thank you." Meehan said has he crawled back into the turret hardpoint. Orlein nodded, turned and started to walk out of the hangar.
"And Orlein?"
"Yes, master?"
"Have fun! Monday!"
Orlein smiled and continued walking. Meehan wondered whether the boy knew how fortunate he way - too many Amarrians were still cruel to their slaves despite the Emperor's decree.
Slightly worried, Meehan continued outfitting his new ship with his brand new high-tech guns. Soon, the command from his superiors would come and soon, the heavens would burst with fire once more. This time not by projectiles, but by hybrid bolts. Peace seemed all too distant.
Meehan kept the image of his son playing on the grassy fields of Nalu in his head.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.03.15 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
All the world knows that this is merely an attempt by renegades and malcontents to annex Providence for the Empire in order to curry favour with their lords and masters.
Your lack of knowledge is astounding, former citizen.
To label the CVA as renegades and malcontents after they've received numerous plaudits and recognition by the Empire shows your lack of knowledge of your own race.
It is not a lack of knowledge, it is a considered view. Those who setup or join paramilitary organisations in order to take radical action above and beyond that which their state (ie. the Amarrian Empire) is willing to take are essentially operating in a renegade-type manner and are by their very deeds expressing discontent with the policy of their notional government.
While many of you give token obeisance to the current Emperor it is quite clear, from your actions, that the CVA is at root opposed to the political philosophy of Doriam Kor-Azor (though I myself regard his 'liberality' as limited in the extreme). You are supported by elements within the Empire - do not pretend every Family regards you in the most beatific light.
I expect one of your propagandists might point to the absurd SPCS as an example of Doriam's injunctions in action. I say, a nonsense. There is nothing good, noble or liberal about the suppression of one individual's basic liberties for the enrichment of another. As the ancient saying goes: a gilded cage remains a cage.
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As for this threat against the Amarrian way of life, this is why I left the service of the Emperor. So I could be on the frontlines serving the Empire and defending it.
My family took part in the Starkmanir extinction. I can not wait to take part in a repeat of that historic cleansing.
You make my point better than I could: Doriam Kor-Azor is no great fan of 'extinctions'.
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Your hulls will burn, your corpses scattered in the void.
This renegade, malcontent and heretic looks forward to joining battle with you and your fellows.
The Cosmopolite
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.03.15 12:34:00 -
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I rarely bother with discussions on these forums, as I do not care to repeat myself to imbeciles such as The Cosmopolite here in an attempt to make them understand.
I much prefer to enforce words through action.
In any case, I feel generous today, though it might not last for very long.
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Those who setup or join paramilitary organisations in order to take radical action above and beyond that which their state (ie. the Amarrian Empire) is willing to take are essentially operating in a renegade-type manner and are by their very deeds expressing discontent with the policy of their notional government.
Whatever action the CVA takes, we always consider the needs of the Empire before we move to enforce it. To brand us renegades on basis of our actions against the Ushra'Khan and our ongoing struggle to bring stability to lower Domain, brands the label 'idiot' plain on your forehead.
The CVA as a whole are very content with the rule of Doriam II, to claim otherwise would be to brand the label 'fool' on your forehead.
Assisting the Empire by focusing our resources towards internal stability and peace, working alongside the Navy and Ministry of War towards a common goal does not exactly brand us discontents, now does it.
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
While many of you give token obeisance to the current Emperor it is quite clear, from your actions, that the CVA is at root opposed to the political philosophy of Doriam Kor-Azor (though I myself regard his 'liberality' as limited in the extreme). You are supported by elements within the Empire - do not pretend every Family regards you in the most beatific light.
The CVA exists to enforce the rule of the Emperor, and secure his position as our Lord and Sheperd. Our loyalty lies with the Emperor, Father of All Houses and None, until the day of the Apocalypse is upon us.
While individual members might have personal preferences towards the governing methods and ideals of a particular House, they still serve the Empire first and foremost.
To claim that we oppose the political philosophy of Doriam II is inane, when a short background check will tell you that all our conflicts stem from outside aggression and attempts to destabilize the Empire itself.
We will not stand idly by and tolerate these transgressions, nor will be bend an inch to your aggressive demands that we lay aside our birthright and traditions.
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
I expect one of your propagandists might point to the absurd SPCS as an example of Doriam's injunctions in action. I say, a nonsense. There is nothing good, noble or liberal about the suppression of one individual's basic liberties for the enrichment of another. As the ancient saying goes: a gilded cage remains a cage.
Who cares about your individual opinion. We follow the decrees of Doriam II to the point, and our Faith assures us that we are Righteous in doing so.
Enjoy the so called 'freedom' of the Federation. The Empire does things differently.
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
This renegade, malcontent and heretic looks forward to joining battle with you and your fellows.
The Cosmopolite
Of course you do. Anarchy, destruction and dissent are your Masters.
You will burn.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.15 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador
Whatever action the CVA takes, we always consider the needs of the Empire before we move to enforce it. To brand us renegades on basis of our actions against the Ushra'Khan and our ongoing struggle to bring stability to lower Domain, brands the label 'idiot' plain on your forehead.
The CVA as a whole are very content with the rule of Doriam II, to claim otherwise would be to brand the label 'fool' on your forehead.
So you operate as a sanctioned part of the Amarrian government?
Your very actions in securing Domain show that you have no faith in your government. If the Emperor wanted it done why doesnt he order the navy to do it? He either doesnt want it, or the navy is incompetent. And the competence of the navy is the responsibility of the Emperor. So either you are renegades or the Emperor is incompetent.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.03.15 12:56:00 -
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I voted against this silly endeavour and won't be personally involving myself in this conflict unless given good reason to.
Should prove interesting at any rate.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.15 12:58:00 -
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Edited by: theRaptor on 15/03/2005 12:58:32
Originally by: Golan Trevize
From:TES Leviathan Apocalypse class.
Location:Mamet high orbit.
***AMUSED ADMIRAL APPEARS ON HOLO***
Empty threats by a bunch of transvestites and prostitutes, the galenteans make such poor soldiers...they really have no stomach for fighting ,your flimsy ships will be no match for the golden fleet.
***TRANSMISSION ENDS***
Thats okay the Star Fraction has an over abundance of combat crazed graduates of the Caldari State War Academy.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
So you operate as a sanctioned part of the Amarrian government?
Your very actions in securing Domain show that you have no faith in your government. If the Emperor wanted it done why doesnt he order the navy to do it? He either doesnt want it, or the navy is incompetent. And the competence of the navy is the responsibility of the Emperor. So either you are renegades or the Emperor is incompetent.
The worst part of your reply is the fact that you are being serious.
My patience for dealing with numbwits just ended.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 15/03/2005 13:18:29
My money is on the CVA fleet...
Sexy Gallente ships just dont cut it when it comes to defeating Imperial Fleets.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Giving the slaves away would be a bad idea, my corporation among many others might be interested in spending a lot of money on these slaves.
Apart from that my money is on the CVA fleet...
Sexy Gallente ships just dont cut it when it comes to imperial fleets.
*sigh*
The Gallente are in the minority in Star Fraction. And considering we live in the Caldari States back yard we tend to fly those ships (much easier logistically).
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador
Originally by: theRaptor
So you operate as a sanctioned part of the Amarrian government?
Your very actions in securing Domain show that you have no faith in your government. If the Emperor wanted it done why doesnt he order the navy to do it? He either doesnt want it, or the navy is incompetent. And the competence of the navy is the responsibility of the Emperor. So either you are renegades or the Emperor is incompetent.
The worst part of your reply is the fact that you are being serious.
My patience for dealing with numbwits just ended.
So? Your work is either sanctioned by the Emperor or it is not. You claim to be reclaiming a region in the name of the Empire, yet apparently do this with no legitimacy. If the Emperor wants this done why does he not send the navy to do it?
You do it in your own name, and enforce your interpretations of Amarrian law. You cannot claim a region in the Empires name anymore then I can claim one in the name of the State, unless you are so sanctioned by that empires government.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 15/03/2005 13:33:19
Originally by: Gaius Kador
[...] imbeciles such as The Cosmopolite [...]
[...]brands the label 'idiot' plain on your forehead.[...]
[...]brand the label 'fool' on your forehead.[...]
I'm always reassured when the only recourse of an opponent, pending combat, is to resort to insults. It rather suggests I am not too wide of the mark.
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Assisting the Empire by focusing our resources towards internal stability and peace, working alongside the Navy and Ministry of War towards a common goal does not exactly brand us discontents, now does it.
Don't make me laugh. You merely collaborate with hardliners within the Empire who are working to undermine the 'liberal' policies of Doriam Kor-Azor. If you cannot see that and are the dupes of conservative forces within the Empire I almost pity you.
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Enjoy the so called 'freedom' of the Federation. The Empire does things differently.
We enjoy freedom in various non-empire regions as well as such activities as we carry out in all the empires. The Star Fraction contains members who regard all the old, tired states and empires as corrupt and out-of-date in the new era of capsuleers.
Your very own paramilitary organisation is just such one symptom of the age could you but see it, even though it be an unwelcome manifestation of the new reality.
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You will burn.
In the flames of freedom, certainly, and your forces be scorched by those flames, be assured.
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction - Executor CEO: Jade Constantine |
Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:33:00 -
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Threats and blackmail will not deter CVA from its goal as defenders of the Empire. These slaves were awarded by their lawful owner to the CVA in gratitude for our work in the region. Now to have decadent Gallante demand they be handed over is an outrage.
The slavetrade is legal in Amarr and will live on. The beasts are enlightend to serve God and Empire and will continue to do so for centuries and millenia to come.
Our Empire is eternal as is our faith.
Archbishop
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Babs Johnson
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:48:00 -
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Edited by: Babs Johnson on 15/03/2005 13:54:21
Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas
Originally by: The Cosmopolite
All the world knows that this is merely an attempt by renegades and malcontents to annex Providence for the Empire in order to curry favour with their lords and masters.
Your lack of knowledge is astounding, former citizen.
To label the CVA as renegades and malcontents after they've received numerous plaudits and recognition by the Empire shows your lack of knowledge of your own race.
As for this threat against the Amarrian way of life, this is why I left the service of the Emperor. So I could be on the frontlines serving the Empire and defending it.
My family took part in the Starkmanir extinction. I can not wait to take part in a repeat of that historic cleansing.
Your hulls will burn, your corpses scattered in the void.
My, the Amarrians think highly of themselves, don't they?
But the civilized world looks upon them with disgust and revulsion.
My dear Monsieur Awalabas, your vanity will surely be your undoing.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:50:00 -
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I think that we see here the Star Fractions true aims. They do not want the slaves to be truly free. What they do want is more workers for the sex trade.
Well well, its nice to see those Imperial propaganda 101 classes came in handy  I think you mind find that a lot of workers in the gallente sex trade actually consider themselves pretty free (with trade unions and pension plans and full voting rights and everything) But what would I know anyhow? (being trained by nuns to be a space social worker and all that.)
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If released to the Star Fraction, I have no doubt that these well trained, well cared for workers would be forced to work in sleazy bars where they would be eyed up by lusty Caldari businessmen, or worse, made to pleasure Brutors in some dingy back alley.
Hmmm, I guess those stories of how CVA use their pleasure slaves are all false then and they're never used to provide hospitality for vile business acquaintances and forced to fight to exhaustion and fatality for amusement and titalation in mud wrestling death matches while the admirals place bets on which one's choke first?
/cheap racial stereotype mode off.
Seriously guys, anyone can make up shock horror stories maybe its worth raising the debate a bit and wondering why the CVA actions in this regard attract the special condemnation of an alliance of posthuman freespacers with previous interests on the other side of the galactic cluster.
Just a thought! 
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Don't make me laugh. You merely collaborate with hardliners within the Empire who are working to undermine the 'liberal' policies of Doriam Kor-Azor. If you cannot see that and are the dupes of conservative forces within the Empire I almost pity you.
Thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.
Let's get one thing clear here. Doriam II is the Emperor of Amarr. He is our leader. He was made our leader by God. His word is law. To attempt to undermine him is to commit treason. To even think of attempting to undermine him is to commit treason. I am proud to say that I have never committed treason.
I've lost count of the number of times over the last year that we've been called Doriam's lackeys, lap-dogs or worse.
If you think that we in the CVA are hardliners, you obviously haven't read the policies of some of the pro-Reclaiming corporations out there.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2005.03.15 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Babs Johnson
My, the Amarrians think highly of themselves, don't they?
But the civilized world looks upon them with disgust and revulsion.
My dear Monsieur Awalabas, your vanity will surely be your undoing.
Contrary to what you may believe, the culture which you inhabit is not the civilised world.
In a civilised society, a person's worth is determined by their loyalty to a higher cause, not the size of their bust.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:02:00 -
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So we now have Gallente Terrorists.
/emote shakes his head.
Im totaly baffled.
Ah well at least life got interisting.
Btw : didint someone have issues with caldari shipping routes in the Bleaklands?
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:12:00 -
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Duty towards the liberation of one's fellow man, and the re-education of those deliberate on building their ways of life on the backs of the oppressed are more than just cause for action.
My personal campaign for empowerment of the Caldari State's general populace will begin with this example. I've fought past the edge of fiscal ruin and died many times over for sworn fealties before; empty words have never been my forte.
You must understand by now that Star Fraction is much more than the stereotype you brand it with. For your own safety, you must understand.
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Al Haquis
So we now have Gallente Terrorists.
Among other Gypsies, yes.
Our alliance has members from 4 races and I think, often, we have a lot of Caldari actively flying the freespace lanes.
One member corporation is, I believe, exclusively Caldari.
Being pro-freedom demands some response to this use of enslaved post-humans as if they were crates of Quafe awarded to a lottery winner...
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:18:00 -
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The CVA is not only loyal to the Emperor and organized and disciplined beyond what any lesser race can aspire to, it is also highly connected into the official institutions of any other empire.
You know no loyalty and for a sack of gold or megacyte will sell anything.
That is why we do now, merely a couple hours after this hostile communique, have obtained nearly complete listings of your members.
You are being watched by imperial agents and I, as head of CVA Intelligence Gathering, will be evaluating you in person to determine if you are worthy of even being called a target should you make your threat a reality and furthermore and more unlikely, risk your ships and clones in a futile attempt at striking at the Empire and its servants.
A fools errand you are embarking upon, something you seem highly qualified for.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:18:00 -
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Your fleets will burn along with your corrupted flesh. You are meddling with a force you do not fully comprehend. I suggest you pull back your "threat" and take your drivel elsewhere.
You will be destroyed if you continue on this path.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2005.03.15 14:23:00 -
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Yes that confuses me as well Al Haquis...
As far as I can see Omerta Syndicate, who I have a lot of respect for, are part of the Star Fraction alliance...
Until recently Omerta Sysndicate were are war with the very Minmatar terrorists that the Star Fraction now seem to be exchanging bodily fluids with...
Has Omerta Syndicate changed its mind about the economic depredation of the terrorists? Do they support the blackmail and threats of their alliance?
Or will they sit maintain their convictions and sit this conflict out?
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