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It is worded to sound like it might link to a Dev Blog about the situation.....but just leads straight to the PLEX Purchase page in Account Management.

It's quite clearly a middle finger to the player-base at this point.

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It is worded to sound like it might link to a Dev Blog about the situation.....but just leads straight to the PLEX Purchase page in Account Management.

It's quite clearly a middle finger to the player-base at this point.

Hardly the player base, its players making isk out of the situation. I think you mean those players who run accounts with plex and are poor enough to care, which can't be many.

Couldn't agree more.

Sorry my friend but i cant give you more likes, saldy only one per post ;]

I realise high price plexes isn't good thing to fight vs inflation, in fact, people who sell plexes become more rich, also more rich people -more inflation we got, no item or isk sink, because after seling plex people apply it to account or spent money for other goods, so nothing is waste.

Besides I think plex prices have started to level out, judging by today alone, tommorrow may be different :)

Why do you think that? Because there are 2 plex at 620 now? The ones after that are still at 630

The fundamentals suggest that CCP will only increase PLEX sinks in the future. Supply side will remain static, or perhaps even fall, as most Eve players are filthy rich and have no need to sell PLEX. And of course, historical data shows that PLEX prices always rise in the long-term. I predict 900m by December and probably 1b by early February 2013.

Supply and Demand.

If someone is willing to pay me 600mil + for a PLEX, why in the hell would I sell it for 400mil?

Nothing to see here move along...

I believe we've already established some pages ago that it's not just as simple as "supply and demand".

No amount of parroting "SQUAWK SUPPLY AND DEMAND SQUAWK" is going to change that. Sorry, but you're going to have to actually think a little deeper, or if that's too much for you, stop bumping this thread with useless posts.

I believe we've already established some pages ago that it's not just as simple as "supply and demand".

No amount of parroting "SQUAWK SUPPLY AND DEMAND SQUAWK" is going to change that. Sorry, but you're going to have to actually think a little deeper, or if that's too much for you, stop bumping this thread with useless posts.

It is simple macro economics, a change in Y* or equilibrium price is only due to a change in aggregate demand or supply. If Y > Y* then demand or supply will adjust. In this case supply seems to be adjusting for it. Before someone starts talking about how it ISNT supply or demand they better well understand freshman macro economics.

That's a nice quip, however I never said it wasn't supply and demand, I merely suggested that just parroting supply and demand isn't enough to explain anything and ultimately gets this discussion nowhere. I'm pretty sure you could teach a five year old how to understand the concept of supply and demand, it's pretty pedestrian. I'm more interested in the factors that influence supply and demand, to me that's where the real interesting theories come from.

Nice straw man, though.

Is this FA guy for real? First I didn't even read your post, because, well anything FA has to say is usually not worth the time.

lol.

I was certainly correct. Very enlightening.

Still waiting for some content, though.

I was certainly correct. Very enlightening.

Still waiting for some content, though.

Fine, I'll bite. You're wrong to assume that the PLEX supply is more or less the same.

CCP has added new sources to take PLEX supply out of the equation (power of 2, resculpt), their PLEX sales haven't been that frequent. Also, a large class of players have come into some serious isk (read: Faction Warfare). A lot of these guys are fueling their FW alt armies with PLEX.

Less people are buying PLEX for real cash and a lot more have the purchasing power to buy PLEX than ever before, thereby driving the supply down. That sounds to me like supply isn't increasing as fast as it was. We don't need a strong uptick in demand, there's simply not enough supply on top of the fact there's more demand. Anyway, at the end of the day I'm not even talking directly about supply and demand, but how factors are affecting each, and that was my original point. That's what's interesting.

A simple equation Value = Demand / Supply is just some number crunch you do after you talk about the important ****. Trying to bat someone around the head with basic math skills is hilarious though.

PS: I haven't even discussed PLEX speculators as well influencing your precious axiom.

Fine, I'll bite. You're wrong to assume that the PLEX supply is more or less the same.

CCP has added new sources to take PLEX supply out of the equation (power of 2, resculpt), their PLEX sales haven't been that frequent. Also, a large class of players have come into some serious isk (read: Faction Warfare). A lot of these guys are fueling their FW alt armies with PLEX.

Less people are buying PLEX for real cash and a lot more have the purchasing power to buy PLEX than ever before, thereby driving the supply down. That sounds to me like supply isn't increasing as fast as it was. We don't need a strong uptick in demand, there's simply not enough supply on top of the fact there's more demand. Anyway, at the end of the day I'm not even talking directly about supply and demand, but how factors are affecting each, and that was my original point. That's what's interesting.

A simple equation Value = Demand / Supply is just some number crunch you do after you talk about the important ****. Trying to bat someone around the head with basic math skills is hilarious though.

PS: I haven't even discussed PLEX speculators as well influencing your precious axiom.

Vaule != demand/supply

Price = C + I +G + X - M

Your lack of knowledge of economics is astounding, while applying keynesian models to eve isnt fool proof. It is vastly superior to using wrong formulas

Not saying Darth Whatever is right, but the formula you posted is for calculating GDP.

Consumption + investment + government spending + exports - imports = GDP. Not applicable to the price of PLEX.

I didn't even read any of your post.

I was merely pointing that Hafa was 100% incorrect in claiming the GDP formula is used to calculate the price of something. It stood out like a sore thumb and I couldn't not comment.