According to the various Dev blogs a considerable number of play styles are being severely curtailed or eliminated by CCP in the up coming expansion -- can flipper, baiter of can flippers, ganking for profit, solo small ship (e.g. sb) hunting of missioners, etc. . . If you were one of the players who participated in these play styles what do you expect to be doing after the update? Will you move to low/null? Or maybe kick ccp/eve to the side of the road and play mechwarrior online, or some other game?

I, for one, used to be heavily in to can flipping and baiting competing can flippers. I also greatly enjoyed hunting missioners in small ships - so this expansion hits my personal playstyle right where it hurts. In response I moved to low sec. But the sec loss/grind there is annoying. I tried the null thing and its blob/bubble play is not for me. So while I expect I will continue playing eve, I anticipate lowering my game time in favor of other games (XCOM). So what about you guys out there?

I take it you've never actually flipped a can, huh?

Here is what would happen if someone in a system I was in got suspect flagged by doing normal canflipping (taking a can from a miner and dumping it back out) under crimewatch 2. Someone else from my corp would decloak in their sensor boosting stealth bomber and point them then I'd warp in from a pounce in my tornado and alpha them.

You see the difference between that and being able to identify who might actually come and shoot you based on their corp membership?

You have absolutely no idea what you're moaning about or you're just trolling.

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You have absolutely no idea what you're moaning about or you're just trolling.

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I flipped literally hundreds (if not thousands) of cans. The problem with can flipping has always been getting people to fight. If your corp mate did that i would be absolutely delighted as it would be a dead cert bomber kill and possibly even an escalated fight with a tornado for afters. Hell if you killed me and looted my can one of my mains might actually get to play.

Change is hard.

What about the double can flip? Get an alt to flip a can then you flip him. Hey presto the miner has to agress everyone to get his ore back. Profit

I flipped literally hundreds (if not thousands) of cans. The problem with can flipping has always been getting people to fight. If your corp mate did that i would be absolutely delighted as it would be a dead cert bomber kill and possibly even an escalated fight with a tornado for afters. Hell if you killed me and looted my can one of my mains might actually get to play.

Elite pvp, 1vs1= 1vs 1+alts+pos kissing booster and when possible graveyard camping (gates). Awesome

Sorry, but I'm going to have to call bullshit on you there on account of that clearly not being a realistic outcome and you apparently not having the foggiest idea how looting rights work.

This

What is the EVE mantra again?

Adapt or die?

Erm you have always been able to do something about that, crimewatch will make precisely no difference other than the repper will also now be able to shoot you first.

Can flipping is getting a massive boost, hell you can flip your own alts can and become a target for any idiot in eve. It will be epic.

Actually, before this the remote repper had no aggression timer for his repping another player and could dock/jump at any point, effectively making him immune to effective counter attack.

I am disagree. You will just need to adapt, just like everyone else does when changes occur.

People always say this. But in my opinion eve is just a game. Either it is fun or it isnt. If it isnt fun anymore because of some change that the dev's make - why should I adapt? I should compromise to keep playing a game that isnt fun just to help the iclandic economy? F-that! Let them fish for a living.

People always say this. But in my opinion eve is just a game. Either it is fun or it isnt. If it isnt fun anymore because of some change that the dev's make - why should I adapt? I should compromise to keep playing a game that isnt fun just to help the iclandic economy? F-that! Let them fish for a living.

Guess how we are going to adapt?

That's right we're going to bring even more neutral guardians and hug the station even harder, because that's how you mitigate the risk of potentially being shot at by anybody in system. And some other stuff that I'm not going to disclose, some of it actually involving what you do with the guardians, but mostly the first part.

Fights go from being inside mission pockets and asteroid belts and involving single individuals versus single individuals or small groups from the same corporation to being big old clusterfucks outside the station.

i'm just mentioning the two leaders of the HBC which is dedicated to ganknig hulks and enslaving carebears.

did i offend you goonie?

I like adapting, it adds challenge. If the game stayed the same forever it would be increasingly boring and not fun anymore. I like new things and I like change. For years peopel have been telling miners and so on to adapt, now it is reversed that is all. No im not a miner either I ceo a pvp corp.

Can-flipping was the best way to get 1v1 pvp imo simply because it created something to fight over, and as you could be threatening hours of work, it was arguably a more effective motivator than any failroam through low and null ("nope, do not engage, they have 2 more members, stay at the POS while I call in ten more battleships and ECM").

And not every miner out there is defenseless, even in a barge like this one..

Sigh, we've lost so much.

Clearly when you use all caps everyone will agree with you.

Adapt or go Play WoW ->

YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR GETTIG WHAT YOU DESERVE YOU GOON

YOU KNOW WHAT!

ALL YOU KNOW HOW TO DO IS TO SHOOT NOOBS WHO CANT FIGHT BACK YOU ARE SUCHG A L33T SPACE PIRATE I CANT EVEN TELL YOU HOW AWESOME YOU ARE CCP IS FINALLY MAKING A STAND AGAINST THE GRIEFERS AND THE MORONS WHO ARE RUINING EVE ONLINE AND RUINING MY GAME!

THIS IS MY GAME!
I WILL NOT LET YOU RUIN IT!!!!

Hrm. 2/10 for all caps and multiple exclamation points.