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The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 580	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:12:00 - [151] - Quote i mean seriously, if you found a big red button and above the button was a sign that said 'do not pres this butan, if you pres this butan tens of thousands - no, perhaps even hundreds of thousands - of eve players will be negatively impacted and get really angry', how could you NOT mash that ********** with both thumbs and a **-eating grin
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 580	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:13:00 - [152] - Quote the butan is the gallente ice belts and my brutixes are the thumbs, you see it is an analogy
Ispia Jaydrath Reib Autonomous Industries 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:13:00 - [153] - Quote The Mittani wrote: in all seriousness i can't stop ganking exhumers, it's addictive as hell There's four hulks sitting right next to each other in Jaschercis. They're using ECM, rep drones and an oneiros to be ~safe~. Please fix this ^_^
Lorren Canada Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 45	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:15:00 - [154] - Quote Sandwich PvP wrote: Lol, looks like the Goons are struggling a bit now...The miners are fighting back with EC drones and shield bots. This has all the makings of a halarious fail, time to farm Goonies before it's too late. As if shield bots and ecm drones will stop a brutix which can alpha a mack. Also, please learn to spell.
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 580	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:16:00 - [155] - Quote we have bombers en route, never fear; we will protect the belts from the scourge of ice mining ~realpost~ I've blown up almost sixty exhumers since tuesday. 90% of them are bots. They sit there and try to mine in pods. Ice mining is probably the single most corrupt profession in EVE. Not like I care, we're not doing this for justice and truth, but to wreak havoc, inflict suffering and get money.
Solstice Project Cult of Personality 18	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:18:00 - [156] - Quote And your inflated ego. ^^
Eternum Praetorian PWNED Factor The Seventh Day 59	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:18:00 - [157] - Quote The Mittani wrote: we have bombers en route, never fear; we will protect the belts from the scourge of ice mining ~realpost~ I've blown up almost sixty exhumers since tuesday. 90% of them are bots. They sit there and try to mine in pods. Ice mining is probably the single most corrupt profession in EVE. Not like I care, we're not doing this for justice and truth, but to wreak havoc, inflict suffering and get money. What's funny is when the other CSM's post my bullshit-o-meter goes off the scale, am I however detecting a noble effort hidden discreetly beneath this CSM's sarcasm?
Smoking Blunts Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD. 61	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:19:00 - [158] - Quote ganking bots is this what this topic was about?. i should report my own posts for being offtopic CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
Lorren Canada Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 45	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:21:00 - [159] - Quote Smoking Blunts wrote: ganking bots is this what this topic was about?. i should report my own posts for being offtopic How about reporting them for being terrible?
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 321	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:21:00 - [160] - Quote The Mittani wrote: in all seriousness i can't stop ganking exhumers, it's addictive as hell Never stop ganking exhumers! (You've ~found your niche~) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 583	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:21:00 - [161] - Quote Eternum Praetorian wrote: The Mittani wrote: we have bombers en route, never fear; we will protect the belts from the scourge of ice mining ~realpost~ I've blown up almost sixty exhumers since tuesday. 90% of them are bots. They sit there and try to mine in pods. Ice mining is probably the single most corrupt profession in EVE. Not like I care, we're not doing this for justice and truth, but to wreak havoc, inflict suffering and get money. What's funny is when the other CSM's post my bullshit-o-meter goes off the scale, am I however detecting a noble effort hidden discreetly beneath this CSM's sarcasm? i assure you it's not noble, when i said during the campaign that i'm a manipulative bastard and a sadist i wasn't kidding people don't really seem to understand the whole sadist thing though, they blow it off as a joke or something, idk
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 321	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:23:00 - [162] - Quote Vile rat wrote: Our killboard is insane right now. It's still horrible though Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Vin Hellsing 74	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:23:00 - [163] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Shadowsword wrote: Richard Hammond II wrote: lol the only agenda here is "kill the game" Looks like theyre no longer content to killing "your" game, looks like they want to kill THE game now The Mittens is a smart guy. He wouldn't be where he is if he was stupid. So he must know that you can't possibly create a monopoly out of something as accessible as ice. Sure, losing a brutix to kill a Mack can look all profitable and dettering on paper, but when miners will get their insured, tanked covetors instead, it will suddenly be a lot less profitable. Let them suicide their dominixes on those, it will cost them more to replace. And you won't need a huge increase of Oxytope prices to make covetor ice mining more profitable than last week's mackinaw mining. No, Mittens must know he can't "break the market" and that it will result only in maybe a 3-5% increase in T2 ship prod cost. What he probably has done must be invest a ton of money last week to buy huge stocks of Oxytopes, and resell them now, making profits in the dozen of billions. And trolling the rest of Eve, which must flatter his ego. Well played, Mittens, well played. well thanks and all, but i think all of you are underestimating the simple raw sadism of your average goon this has been tremendously fun; trying to destroy the galactic economy and get rich while doing it is a nice perk, but mostly it's about inflicting suffering en masse on people we dislike Which is basically all of New Eden? Not a good way to guarantee long-term survival.
Smoking Blunts Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD. 61	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:25:00 - [164] - Quote Lorren Canada wrote: Smoking Blunts wrote: ganking bots is this what this topic was about?. i should report my own posts for being offtopic How about reporting them for being terrible? im not a member of goons or thier pets so im not allowed the terrible tag CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
Blawrf McTaggart GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 78	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:26:00 - [165] - Quote Smoking Blunts wrote: Lorren Canada wrote: Smoking Blunts wrote: ganking bots is this what this topic was about?. i should report my own posts for being offtopic How about reporting them for being terrible? im not a member of goons or thier pets so im not allowed the terrible tag IDK your alliance tag is pretty terrible
Vin Hellsing 74	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:28:00 - [166] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: The Mittani wrote: we have bombers en route, never fear; we will protect the belts from the scourge of ice mining ~realpost~ I've blown up almost sixty exhumers since tuesday. 90% of them are bots. They sit there and try to mine in pods. Ice mining is probably the single most corrupt profession in EVE. Not like I care, we're not doing this for justice and truth, but to wreak havoc, inflict suffering and get money. What's funny is when the other CSM's post my bullshit-o-meter goes off the scale, am I however detecting a noble effort hidden discreetly beneath this CSM's sarcasm? i assure you it's not noble, when i said during the campaign that i'm a manipulative bastard and a sadist i wasn't kidding people don't really seem to understand the whole sadist thing though, they blow it off as a joke or something, idk If you want an inkling of nobility to be attached to your name as a CSM, maybe dipping into your ******* coffers to reimburse the REAL miners for their ship losses (not the mining resource losses) would be a nice move.
Smoking Blunts Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD. 61	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:30:00 - [167] - Quote Blawrf McTaggart wrote: Smoking Blunts wrote: Lorren Canada wrote: Smoking Blunts wrote: ganking bots is this what this topic was about?. i should report my own posts for being offtopic How about reporting them for being terrible? im not a member of goons or thier pets so im not allowed the terrible tag IDK your alliance tag is pretty terrible wow, now thats funny. and its never been said before, honest CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 321	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:30:00 - [168] - Quote Smoking Blunts wrote: what are the possitive things that higher t2 items and higher cost travel would lead too? That's a good question. Higher priced T2: This leads to several positive effects. (1) T2 is skill-intensive compared to meta 1-4. Cheap T2 means that T2 is the standard fitting, which means that players who have not yet accumulated the skills required find it relatively harder to compete. In a scenario where T2 is expensive and is therefore less commonly used, lower skilled players are comparitively advantaged.* (2) More diversity in fittings. I'm just going to assert that this is ipso facto a good thing because diversity encourages creativity and novelty, both of which EVE needs like a hungry fat chick needs cake. (3) Expensive T2 pulls up the value of meta items, which makes ratting more profitable, and which means that looting has a comparative advantage over (inflationary) blitzing. Higher travel costs: This leads to several positive effects. (1) It encourages alliances to seek conflict closer to home, and penalises that "Nothing but blues for 40 jumps" factor. (2) It adds a little more expense to the inevitable hotdrops. (3) It encourages people to use supcaps rather than capitals. *I am aware that this conflicts with my Law. Feel free to discuss the applicability in this situation. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
David Grogan The Motley Crew Reborn Warped Aggression 45	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:30:00 - [169] - Quote Brock Nelson wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: also many research towers run off of oxygen isotopes. Wrong, most research tower is Caldari which consumes nitrogen isotopes. So if Goonswarm's intention is to hurt most research tower owners in highsec, then they're doing it wrong. actually it hurts REACTION towers not research towers. Gallente Large Towers are the best for running reactions in because 1. they have the best cpu/pg ratio for setting up reaction towers 2. they get a silo bonus
Sandwich PvP Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:32:00 - [170] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Sandwich PvP wrote: Lol, looks like the Goons are struggling a bit now...The miners are fighting back with EC drones and shield bots. This has all the makings of a halarious fail, time to farm Goonies before it's too late. Careful now, once you start trying to insinuate that players should do things for themselves instead of slinging random insults at the CSM or crying to CCP, then EP will know that you're a goon alt for sure. lol, now there is no reason to be insulting, I'm just out watching the fun, and getting the occasional free Goon kill...it's all good.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 321	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:33:00 - [171] - Quote Sandwich PvP wrote: Malcanis wrote: Sandwich PvP wrote: Lol, looks like the Goons are struggling a bit now...The miners are fighting back with EC drones and shield bots. This has all the makings of a halarious fail, time to farm Goonies before it's too late. Careful now, once you start trying to insinuate that players should do things for themselves instead of slinging random insults at the CSM or crying to CCP, then EP will know that you're a goon alt for sure. lol, now there is no reason to be insulting, I'm just out watching the fun, and getting the occasional free Goon kill...it's all good. GOON ALT DETECTED! Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
IIIAsharakIII GR3Y N0MADS 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:34:00 - [172] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Deranged Arguements. Can I just ask you something? Do you prefer Vodka, or whole grain alchohal? Got any issues with women or bodily fluids? Just curious.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 321	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:34:00 - [173] - Quote Vin Hellsing wrote: The Mittani wrote: Shadowsword wrote: Richard Hammond II wrote: lol the only agenda here is "kill the game" Looks like theyre no longer content to killing "your" game, looks like they want to kill THE game now The Mittens is a smart guy. He wouldn't be where he is if he was stupid. So he must know that you can't possibly create a monopoly out of something as accessible as ice. Sure, losing a brutix to kill a Mack can look all profitable and dettering on paper, but when miners will get their insured, tanked covetors instead, it will suddenly be a lot less profitable. Let them suicide their dominixes on those, it will cost them more to replace. And you won't need a huge increase of Oxytope prices to make covetor ice mining more profitable than last week's mackinaw mining. No, Mittens must know he can't "break the market" and that it will result only in maybe a 3-5% increase in T2 ship prod cost. What he probably has done must be invest a ton of money last week to buy huge stocks of Oxytopes, and resell them now, making profits in the dozen of billions. And trolling the rest of Eve, which must flatter his ego. Well played, Mittens, well played. well thanks and all, but i think all of you are underestimating the simple raw sadism of your average goon this has been tremendously fun; trying to destroy the galactic economy and get rich while doing it is a nice perk, but mostly it's about inflicting suffering en masse on people we dislike Which is basically all of New Eden? Not a good way to guarantee long-term survival. My own dear alliance has set virtually everyone else in EVE as "KOS". Is this a good way to "guarantee long-term survival"? Is long term survival the final metric of a good playstyle? Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Lorren Canada Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 45	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:36:00 - [174] - Quote Vin Hellsing wrote: The Mittani wrote: Shadowsword wrote: Richard Hammond II wrote: lol the only agenda here is "kill the game" Looks like theyre no longer content to killing "your" game, looks like they want to kill THE game now The Mittens is a smart guy. He wouldn't be where he is if he was stupid. So he must know that you can't possibly create a monopoly out of something as accessible as ice. Sure, losing a brutix to kill a Mack can look all profitable and dettering on paper, but when miners will get their insured, tanked covetors instead, it will suddenly be a lot less profitable. Let them suicide their dominixes on those, it will cost them more to replace. And you won't need a huge increase of Oxytope prices to make covetor ice mining more profitable than last week's mackinaw mining. No, Mittens must know he can't "break the market" and that it will result only in maybe a 3-5% increase in T2 ship prod cost. What he probably has done must be invest a ton of money last week to buy huge stocks of Oxytopes, and resell them now, making profits in the dozen of billions. And trolling the rest of Eve, which must flatter his ego. Well played, Mittens, well played. well thanks and all, but i think all of you are underestimating the simple raw sadism of your average goon this has been tremendously fun; trying to destroy the galactic economy and get rich while doing it is a nice perk, but mostly it's about inflicting suffering en masse on people we dislike Which is basically all of New Eden? Not a good way to guarantee long-term survival. History would prove you wrong, since the goons have waged war against most of New Eden for the better part of the last six years and only ever risen higher and higher.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 322	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:37:00 - [175] - Quote Lorren Canada wrote: Also, don't talk **** to Mal, as he is ten times the poster you will ever be. Only ten? You just made the list, buddy. The bad list. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Sandwich PvP Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:43:00 - [176] - Quote Lorren Canada wrote: Sandwich PvP wrote: Lol, looks like the Goons are struggling a bit now...The miners are fighting back with EC drones and shield bots. This has all the makings of a halarious fail, time to farm Goonies before it's too late. As if shield bots and ecm drones will stop a brutix which can alpha a mack. Also, please learn to spell. Ispia Jaydrath wrote: The Mittani wrote: in all seriousness i can't stop ganking exhumers, it's addictive as hell There's four hulks sitting right next to each other in Jaschercis. They're using ECM, rep drones and an oneiros to be ~safe~. Please fix this ^_^ OMW, Oneiros are ****. Yes, a Jr Goon discussing spelling, thread is now complete.... \0/ And so far, the Goonie Brutix's seem to be lacking something, because they aren't getting alphas, and seem to be having trouble killing un-defended Macs/Hulks.....
Lorren Canada Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 45	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:46:00 - [177] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Lorren Canada wrote: Also, don't talk **** to Mal, as he is ten times the poster you will ever be. Only ten? You just made the list, buddy. The bad list. Uh-oh, there goes my rep :(
The Mittani GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 585	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:48:00 - [178] - Quote Vin Hellsing wrote: The Mittani wrote: Eternum Praetorian wrote: The Mittani wrote: we have bombers en route, never fear; we will protect the belts from the scourge of ice mining ~realpost~ I've blown up almost sixty exhumers since tuesday. 90% of them are bots. They sit there and try to mine in pods. Ice mining is probably the single most corrupt profession in EVE. Not like I care, we're not doing this for justice and truth, but to wreak havoc, inflict suffering and get money. What's funny is when the other CSM's post my bullshit-o-meter goes off the scale, am I however detecting a noble effort hidden discreetly beneath this CSM's sarcasm? i assure you it's not noble, when i said during the campaign that i'm a manipulative bastard and a sadist i wasn't kidding people don't really seem to understand the whole sadist thing though, they blow it off as a joke or something, idk If you want an inkling of nobility to be attached to your name as a CSM, maybe dipping into your ***** coffers to reimburse the REAL miners for their ship losses (not the mining resource losses) would be a nice move. i don't care about your morality or your views on right and wrong, i'm the leader of *** goonswarm people have forgotten that as the CSM has gone to bat for the playerbase against CCP. i wear two hats - on the one hand, i want the game to be better and for CCP to stop ***** things up. on the other hand, i run goonswarm, and we hate you, where you = anyone not our friend.
That's A Fact Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:49:00 - [179] - Quote Goons are stupid And that's a fact
Smoking Blunts Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD. 61	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:50:00 - [180] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Smoking Blunts wrote: what are the possitive things that higher t2 items and higher cost travel would lead too? That's a good question. Higher priced T2: This leads to several positive effects. (1) T2 is skill-intensive compared to meta 1-4. Cheap T2 means that T2 is the standard fitting, which means that players who have not yet accumulated the skills required find it relatively harder to compete. In a scenario where T2 is expensive and is therefore less commonly used, lower skilled players are comparitively advantaged.* (2) More diversity in fittings. I'm just going to assert that this is ipso facto a good thing because diversity encourages creativity and novelty, both of which EVE needs like a hungry fat chick needs cake. (3) Expensive T2 pulls up the value of meta items, which makes ratting more profitable, and which means that looting has a comparative advantage over (inflationary) blitzing. Higher travel costs: This leads to several positive effects. (1) It encourages alliances to seek conflict closer to home, and penalises that "Nothing but blues for 40 jumps" factor. (2) It adds a little more expense to the inevitable hotdrops. (3) It encourages people to use supcaps rather than capitals. *I am aware that this conflicts with my Law. Feel free to discuss the applicability in this situation. Higher priced T2: 1,its not eve 2004, without learning skills training times are way less than before. its not hard to get t2 tanking skills its like 1 month for both shield and armour. less than it used to be training learning skills 2, new fittings are coming out all teh time, in the past year hell cats, thundercats, welp canes to name just a few have all shown up, these at the time were out the box thinking, the next new standard will also be out side the box. 3. in most cases currently meta 4 is more expensive than t2, you want meta 4's to cost more than it already does, dosnt that just hurt the nub? Higher travel costs: 1, alliances dont care what it costs to move capitals about. its a everyday living expense. only small times grunts do, they are teh only ones directly effected 2. a little extra cost that dosnt matter for any alliance, see 1 3, higher costs dont make people use scaps more, the scap iwin button does. higher costs for t2 and fuel only effect grunts, alliances will just suck it up as a living expense, same as most 'older richer' players CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.

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