Few dedicated diehards are not going to affect things when there are up to 60 moneymakers opposing for each of them. Mathematics are a b.tch so I assume most people will roll up alts for opposing militia missioning and move their stuff to non-lockable lowsec.

Nobody will fight in FW but then again, nobody has actually fought over anything in FW since Inferno anyway. This of course wont hinder Gallente and Minmatar militias in the least since it's going to be isk making paradise until end of Eve.

I quess congratulations are in order for CCP and Hans for finally stacking the deck big enough to be too much for Amarr/Caldari to handle and achieving their dream of killing FW.

That is clearly the conclusion all rational amarr should have reached. But I wasn't sure about the caldari front.

Dont get me wrong (this is just my personal opinion), I do like pvp but right now I am looking for not-too-distant future where I need to keep accounts running all my free time in a single system just for the priviledge of being able to dock and i've had enough of CCP's continued screw ups in regards to FW.

While you sit here crying, Happy Endings are out there working their asses off trying to capture systems. Rather than sitting in some back water system that no one cares about trying to defend it single handed and complaining about how hard it can be to do so on this thread lol.

1. That half pay is still enough to keep you fighting and in the game.

If you had managed to do that on the upcoming patch day and there was no emergency patch to fix the economy and plex prices them im sure you would be gloating here as you were in the past and explaining to us that we just need to work harder.

Barely. In really cheap ships and fits. And then only if you put a fair bit of time into solo PvE. So, "Yay FW for all the awesome PvE opportunities!"

Give me a break. You and all your friends and allies are fail if you can't support yourself at FW Tier 1 payouts. HTFU and go pirate if you think you have it so bad. Somehow those guys are able to make a living.

BS can't make a living. If you do 2 minor plex, which you can do in any PVP frig or dessie, every day for a month that's 300k LP at t1. That's enough for 2 Navy Geddons netting you 800m+. You can literally do 2 minors while looking for fights. So I call your BS and raise you logic.

BS can't make a living. If you do 2 minor plex, which you can do in any PVP frig or dessie, every day for a month that's 300k LP at t1. That's enough for 2 Navy Geddons netting you 800m+. You can literally do 2 minors while looking for fights. So I call your BS and raise you logic.

Give me a break. You and all your friends and allies are fail if you can't support yourself at FW Tier 1 payouts. HTFU and go pirate if you think you have it so bad. Somehow those guys are able to make a living.

What? Amarr can reach Tier 2 right now? , indeed.

... XG if you are too dumb to realize most people will prefer more money to less then i don't even know why I think I will change your mind.

I don't know why you are rolling your eyes or are even commenting.

• You know Poetic is an outright liar when she says she can only afford to fly cheap ships and fits.
• You also know that Tier 2 - which your side is currently at - provides enough resources for both sides to put up a good fight.
• And you also know that the issue w.r.t alts following the isk and affecting occupancy warfare has been addressed by me, and that I agree it's a problem that needs to be addressed.

So, what exactly is your complaint here?

Amarr is at tier 2. We've successfully held Siseide for six weeks (?) now. Before the recent patch we had to commit a lot of our resources to deplexing Siseide. You could set your watch to farmers coming and going. After the patch? The farmers have stopped. It has freed a lot of us up. We ran Dal up to 40% on Saturday before they responded. We had Auga up to 30% before I had to leave for work today.

If the farmers are still around I don't see them much. Even dplexing is hazardous in a war zone. Amarr is also working together a lot better then before. The Sahtogas crew got Saikamon vulnerable yesterday and a fleet of fweddit, imlaw, tmfed, and agony flipped it. And killing is awesome on the Amarr side. Hell, I'm very busy with work and family and my computer was in the shop for a week and I still got over 100 kills this month. The Amarr are hungry and mostly positive.

Amarr is at tier 2. We've successfully held Siseide for six weeks (?) now. Before the recent patch we had to commit a lot of our resources to deplexing Siseide. You could set your watch to farmers coming and going. After the patch? The farmers have stopped. It has freed a lot of us up. We ran Dal up to 40% on Saturday before they responded.

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Of course they did. You saved them the trouble of having their alts contest the system enough for them to make isk dplexing it. If you think the war is winnable with these rules you need a math class.

There is no hope for the underdogs in this system. It deliberately set up to snowball in favor of the winning side.

I don't need a math class. You need to log onto the game. You haven't been on in a month and quite a bit has changed.

If you think this is about winning or losing then you are missing the point to the extent that there are no words. This isnt counter strike where when one side wins the round restarts. The war should be perpetual, as it is. .

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Previous rules denied the losing side any real ability to make isk better than level 1 missions in high sec, the current rules allow the losing side, assuming tier 2, to make as much isk as we ever have done in the last 2 years before these ******** station lock outs and the tier system.

I know you were always all gung ho about permanently making half what minmatar make but I am not really all that interested.

Any and all pew which happens is purely related to how much isk you can make later with CCP designated dominant carebear faction (= gal/matar). Nothing else features into it. But then again, this is hardly surprising seeing how biased CCP is. Why should I go run plexes for Amarr when I can roll a misson alt and run those for people who already have dominant tier?

well. this is question for any 0.0 sec dweller: why choose any alliance outside of goons/test? Choose better!

The more serious answer: why have you chosen amarr militia? Just move to minmatar one and have fun (because grinding ISK is fun for you).

Think about it.

If it makes you feel any better they can make better LP missioning. So by capturing a plex you can make sure they make less LP than they otherwise would have when they run it back.

This is NOT a complaint because I still killz sh!t ALOT.

However, Caldari and Gallente low security space is near quite. Low is back to the old days when it was largely empty. There also seems to be ALOT less people roaming or living in low security space. The system before was crazy, but you got ALOT more engagements than you do now and I'm talking about everywhere as oppose to specific systems like Nen, vill or Ena. The patch turned out to be a NERF to pvp v0v