you have to fit your ship with something other than meta 0 modules...mediums take a little longer though...maybe 20 minutes for me.

But anyway,keep thinking people will choose less money instead of more money. You are just obviously ignoring the problems with your irrational views.

And the new cruisers coming out Dec 4 should speed this up significantly.

You know, while you sit there and complain about the current state of fw (which is the best it's ever been)

You weren't there man, you just don't get it.

Seriously thoug, FW was at it's best in the early days before there was any isk in it, just the fights over nothing and blood was spilt over and over again, small gang action and rarely did you see a booster alt unless it was that whiney grumpy ol' Neph.

You are whining about income disparity and Poetic is whining about the ability of FW pilots to generate enough isk to play the game.

So when are you petitioning CCP en-masse for moving those two Gal/Matar FW agents in low-sec which cannot be shut down by current mechanics because they are not conquerable. Until that is addressed, isk making is not in balance even if all factions would be at tier 3.

So when are you petitioning CCP en-masse for moving those two Gal/Matar FW agents in low-sec which cannot be shut down by current mechanics because they are not conquerable. Until that is addressed, isk making is not in balance even if all factions would be at tier 3.

You are whining about income disparity and Poetic is whining about the ability of FW pilots to generate enough isk to play the game. Somehow, you think I'm addressing your whine - which I'm not. I'm addressing Poetics whine.

As for your whine... the FW game is changing. Try logging in and playing the game for a week. Then report what you experience to the board. Until then you have ZERO credibility with your whine.

But at this point, it doesn't matter. The minmatar militia is winning - great they get more money.

The amarr still get a fantastic amount of money that can be made while pvping, unlike pre-inferno where the ISK multiplier made it very difficult for the losing side.

Damar pls

Oh that whole bit where you are quoting me and then typing your post made me think you were responding to me.

Lots of ******** FW babies in this thread screaming about how unfair/fair a haven for what has to be some of the stupidest people in the game is. Who is "winning" Cal/Gal (also lol at the people saying your dessie/bad frig pvp is exciting, one of the most boring things I can imagine in the game.)

Glad to see you've all been mostly contained to shouting at each other about how bad you are still.

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Cearain has a weird sense of entitlement. He wants ISK, he wants it for free. He doesnt want to do all those things the minmatar do to gain that isk. He doesnt want to defend or have to run plexes. We have spend a lot of LP upgrading, night and nights plexing and defending, running after your isk farmers. What do you do? You make an alt and farm yourself, then you start complaining about minmatar plexing. If you remove all your damn alts ww would be losing a lot of numbers haha. Or are you forgetting about your alt corp Tribal Outlaws??? You know the corp whos POSes you use to hide your Amarr main PVP ships in.

Suck it up, stop being a whiny baby. Grow a bloody spine and take responsibility. Be a ******* MAN for a change.

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Try logging in and playing the game for a week. Then report what you experience to the board. Until then you have ZERO credibility with your whine.

Lots of ******** FW babies in this thread screaming about how unfair/fair a haven for what has to be some of the stupidest people in the game is. Who is "winning" Cal/Gal (also lol at the people saying your dessie/bad frig pvp is exciting, one of the most boring things I can imagine in the game.)

Glad to see you've all been mostly contained to shouting at each other about how bad you are still.

Really you sound like a casino. "Keep playing." "How can you win when you don't play?" Yeah everything is stacked in my favor but you don't want to be a quitter do you? Sorry I don't gamble at casinos.


You don't know anything about what I did with my alts or what I suggested my corp/militia should do with respect to plexing. Inferno was imbalanced but it had some mechanics for balance. I was one of the main people in amarr who argued to use those balancing mechanics to the upmost and keep plexing for amarr.

Now that even those meager balancing mechanics have been reduced/removed I can't honestly say its in our best interest to keep doing this occupancy war. Telling my corp and militia mates that they should keep engaging this plexing mechanic is just like telling them they should keep going to the casino.

Lots of ******** FW babies in this thread screaming about how unfair/fair a haven for what has to be some of the stupidest people in the game is. Who is "winning" Cal/Gal (also lol at the people saying your dessie/bad frig pvp is exciting, one of the most boring things I can imagine in the game.)

Glad to see you've all been mostly contained to shouting at each other about how bad you are still.

some of the dumbest people in this game have poped your 100mn loki boosted tengu's/drake gangs. then i bet **** gets real exciting

the topic is whether or not players can make enough isk in FW to stay in ships.

That metaphor is atrocious and inapplicable. Running a plex is no more similar to gambling than PvP is.

Both(pvp and plexing) have some simillarity to gambling, both pay one side 2.5xs what it pays the other side. Very few casino games are that slanted because, no one would play.

It's clearly dumb from an economic perspective to choose to fight for the losing side.

Some people argue that pvp is better when you are outshipped and outnumbered. That hasn't been my experience, but lets see how it goes.

lies. he ejects from ship. then cynthia jumps in it and flies it like it was stolen. this has happened, what, six times now?

You don't like making less money? That's a separate issue and the solution is simple, go take some systems and improve your situation yourself.

How can you guys do this when your side cannot even afford to fly any ships? /me confused.

well one, they've never done it but everytime i warped away they thought "**** yea we got to troll him" like I gave a **** lol. Also a tengu is a ship like any other and can be killed by 5-7 ships flown by angry little kids like any other. It's the fact you guys thought it was a great achievement to kill a tengu once that I find so hilarious. You must be doing FW wrong if you don't have 5+bil at all times, but then again you sat around defensive plexing and hiding from goodfights.

you loved trying to stick to smaller plexes and used a legion whenever you had one, it's not my fault you can't buy a link char or train one, scrubs.

None of us complain about isk.

None of us complain about isk.

How can you guys do this when your side cannot even afford to fly any ships? /me confused.