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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
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Posted - 2012.10.30 08:56:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:A space anchor ?
Actually that's quite interesting.
I could see it being related to the way that a Cyno ship can't be moved; a module that adds ship mass perhaps ? Everything needs a counter ...
Lets hear some fleshed out ideas!
Edit: Apologies to Akirei Scytale who already mentioned the mass thing ...
Features & Ideas Discussion ??
no. apparently not. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.10.30 09:51:00 -
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Thread moved from GD to F&I - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
953
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Posted - 2012.10.30 11:09:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote: What on earth are you rambling on about this time? Whine much?
I'm saying it's about time you guys learned to stfu and stop all the bitching against miners. You're just shitpoasting everything up because you're butthurt. Mittens is butthurt. You're all butthurt. Get the f over it already! Gank 'em, kill 'em, bump 'em - or just stfu. Just stop with the incessant bitchin' at 'em ffs. Gang attacking players on a forum because of what they choose to do in a game is just lame. It's not only lame. It's pathetic. htfu and go find some proper targets. Stop picking on kindy kids ya pussies. Because miners never whined about anything ever. Perhaps you should chill out. Perhaps you should stfu and find more suitable targets. What you do in game is one thing, what you do here, gang attacking players is simply pathetic. Sure they whine. But that's not why you're here. This is just shitpoasting. It's crap and should be called and stopped for the crap that it is. I'm doing what I can. Solo and Chilled.
You call out people for attacking other people when that is literally all you ever do. Take own advice. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
28
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Posted - 2012.10.30 12:36:00 -
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I never understood the point of moving the thread. General Discussion is full of meaningless topics thats only about giving likes or useless opinions about avatars. You should clean general discussion up first before moving topics with actual game related content |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1102
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Posted - 2012.10.30 13:14:00 -
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Shizuken wrote:Souisa wrote:Do you actually believe there shouldnt be a way to defend against it? A module, or a skill of some sort, that at least reduces the speed at which you get bumped away The proper way to handle this would be for CCP to actually program ship collisions that cause damage. As it is now bumpers lose nothing from their actions and miners lose everything. See what happens when the bumpers start incurring replacement and repair costs... Then bumpers would use rookie ships as weapons to destroy whatever they wanted for free and without consequence. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
526
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Posted - 2012.11.21 12:10:00 -
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The problem with the terrible "anchor" suggestion is that there is absolutely no downside for the carebears. Comparing it to siege/triage modules is dishonest, as the ships that use those modules can only operate in areas in which they can freely be attacked, and as such being stuck in one spot for a fixed period of time is an actual risk. Anchoring yourself in safe space has no drawback. I propose slashing defenses and or mining yield by 50% while anchored.
That sounds fair - you don't have to actively manage your range or avoid bumpers, but the compromise is reduced survivability or isk |

Seranova Farreach
DEEP-SPACE CO-OP LTD Exhale.
24
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Posted - 2012.11.21 13:35:00 -
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Souisa wrote:Im sorry but do you know how fast an orca or barge moves?
skiff moves at like 450ish m/s ;p |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
49
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Posted - 2012.11.21 13:38:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:The problem with the terrible "anchor" suggestion is that there is absolutely no downside for the carebears. Comparing it to siege/triage modules is dishonest, as the ships that use those modules can only operate in areas in which they can freely be attacked, and as such being stuck in one spot for a fixed period of time is an actual risk. Anchoring yourself in safe space has no drawback. I propose slashing defenses and or mining yield by 50% while anchored.
That sounds fair - you don't have to actively manage your range or avoid bumpers, but the compromise is reduced survivability or isk
I dont know how you think the anchor is going to work. But if you make it a module, it will have a drawback. Because if you fit it, you wont be able to fit something else in its place. If you make it a low slot, miners will have to sacrifice a mining laser upgrade to fit it. If you make it require cap, depending on how much, they will have trouble cycling their miners if they keep it active all the time o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10718
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Posted - 2012.11.21 14:09:00 -
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Another bad idea.
There are already options available, I suggest you use them. This is after all, an MMO 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
49
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Posted - 2012.11.21 14:09:00 -
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Hi :)
Like what o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10718
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Posted - 2012.11.21 14:11:00 -
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Friends, but I guess you may find that a problem. Who knows?
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
49
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Posted - 2012.11.21 14:12:00 -
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What the hell is your problem o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2012.11.21 14:19:00 -
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Souisa wrote:What the hell is your problem Had to think for a minute, but I guess it's the mortgage. It's not really a problem per say, but it's the closest thing. 
As far as this idea is concerned, others deal quite well without, so maybe learn how to yourself? After all bumping is a perfectly legitimate mechanic to use and has been used for many, many years. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
49
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Posted - 2012.11.21 14:34:00 -
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Yea like i said it will not be the end of bumping, saying it isnt unbalanced is ignoring the obvious tho o/ |

Nikk Narrel
Infinite Improbability Inc Mordus Angels
757
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:15:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Souisa wrote:What the hell is your problem Had to think for a minute, but I guess it's the mortgage. It's not really a problem per say, but it's the closest thing.  As far as this idea is concerned, others deal quite well without, so maybe learn how to yourself? After all bumping is a perfectly legitimate mechanic to use and has been used for many, many years.  Gotta say, Mortgages need to be nerfed.
Mine went up this year, and we are looking into converting to a fixed rate. (We always planned on this, it just wasn't one of our options when we first got the mortgage itself) Cloaking being on a ten minute manual cycle timer? (Author: Bree Okanata) Fine. As long as there is a ten minute timer for being docked in a station. Also, you can't stop moving in the game. Just add in a way so every ten minutes you are randomly warped to the nearest other player. Keeps people from going AFK. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10719
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:20:00 -
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Nikk Narrel wrote:Mag's wrote:Had to think for a minute, but I guess it's the mortgage. It's not really a problem per say, but it's the closest thing.  As far as this idea is concerned, others deal quite well without, so maybe learn how to yourself? After all bumping is a perfectly legitimate mechanic to use and has been used for many, many years.  Gotta say, Mortgages need to be nerfed. Mine went up this year, and we are looking into converting to a fixed rate. (We always planned on this, it just wasn't one of our options when we first got the mortgage itself) We have an account that is both our current and mortgage, in one. We did look at fixed, but I would have preferred longer term fixed. Full term in other words, but no one did them at the time. (UK)
Hope you get a good deal bud.
Also, I think bumping is balanced.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc
529
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:55:00 -
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Souisa wrote:Yea like i said it will not be the end of bumping, saying it isnt unbalanced is ignoring the obvious tho
It's far from obvious, as I have no idea what you're blithering on about.
What is the issue? If you're active or have friends/corp mates/whatever then bumping is practically a none issue. If you pay your nearest New Order agent for a mining permit then you won't be bumped for a full year. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10720
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:58:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Souisa wrote:Yea like i said it will not be the end of bumping, saying it isnt unbalanced is ignoring the obvious tho It's far from obvious, as I have no idea what you're blithering on about. What is the issue? If you're active or have friends/corp mates/whatever then bumping is practically a none issue. If you pay your nearest New Order agent for a mining permit then you won't be bumped for a full year. He won't accept that. Just take a look at his freighter thread, for just how he reacts to facts.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
51
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:45:00 -
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Have you seen a miner been bumped? Have you tried it? :)
Its basically griefing because there is no counter-measure o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10720
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:52:00 -
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Souisa wrote:Have you seen a miner been bumped? Have you tried it? :)
Its basically griefing because there is no counter-measure Wrong again.
CCP Falcon wrote:So, I just spoke to the GM Team regarding this to get some clarification: Firstly, people who are bumped always have the right to petition. It is the right of any player who feels that they want to petition an issue to do so. However, with regards to the rules in EVE Online our current view is: Bumping is not considered harassment. Bumping is not considered griefing. Bumping is not against the rules. It's actually been used for a long time to prevent warping as a rudimentary form of tackling when you don't have a point, or don't have sufficient disruption strength to keep someone pinned. Along with that, the people that are doing this for the best part are in player corporations. If you don't like what they're doing, declare war on them so that you can punish them, or pay a merc corp to do so on your behalf if you don't want to fight. There are plenty of options to counter this, if you use your imagination. 
Linkage.
Next.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
51
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:54:00 -
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Why do you think they dont consider it griefing? Because they cant do anything about it anyway, its just the same with scams. Reason they dont do anything is because they have better things to do than remimburse and investigate scams. Still means scamming is scamming, and miner bumping is griefing.
However, they could make a module, a anchor of sorts that would allow miners to defend themselves and in turn end the droves of threads on the issue o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10720
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:58:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: Bumping is not considered harassment. Bumping is not considered griefing. Bumping is not against the rules.
There are plenty of options to counter this, if you use your imagination.

CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
51
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:03:00 -
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I must have a really bad imagination o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10720
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:07:00 -
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Souisa wrote:I must have a really bad imagination Yea I agree. Also your maths, reading and comprehension could do with some work. Just saying.
Oh one other thing, scamming is also not griefing and a perfectly legitimate activity. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
51
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:09:00 -
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Kind of tough for someone on an internet forum arent you o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10720
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:11:00 -
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Souisa wrote:Kind of tough for someone on an internet forum arent you Being right Gëá tough. Like I said, reading and comprehension. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
51
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:13:00 -
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Well you are right in that the devs dont consider bumping griefing, but it is being used to grief o/ |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10720
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:17:00 -
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Now you've admitted I'm right here, it's time to try and prove me wrong in the other thread dear sir. 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Souisa
WESCORP 2.0
51
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:23:00 -
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:) o/ |
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