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DarkSacred	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:22:00 - [1] Hi, Ive downloaded the game and had to pay to even use it (no free trial???) Every few minutes the game crashes my PC and I have to restart it. When I did get in game I couldnt get the hang of the controls as their illogical and impossible to use due to the game mechanics. Because of this I wish to cancel my subscription as I dont want to pay for a game that I cant play, it wont however let me cancel my subscription. Is their any way I can cancel my subscription and get a refund on the 20 euros it costs to try the game? Regards, Sacred
MadGaz	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:26:00 - [2] Linkage Funnily enough theres a picture saying "Free Trial" to the right as I type this, ah well sorry to hear you dont like it. ------------------------------------------
Val Amon	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:26:00 - [3] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=110129 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=65057 Read these and change your graphics settings it should do wonders. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:28:00 - [4] Eh? What controls? You just use a ******* mouse. And you can get free trials. It lasts 14 days. And no, you can't get a refund. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
DarkSacred	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:29:00 - [5] Originally by: MadGaz Linkage Funnily enough theres a picture saying "Free Trial" to the right as I type this, ah well sorry to hear you dont like it. Funily enough you need to know someone who already plays to take advantage of that. I'm not sure why the game randomly crashes, it just black screens then my PC reboots.
DarkSacred	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:32:00 - [6] Originally by: Nero Scuro Eh? What controls? You just use a ******* mouse. Thats my problem, would have been much better if you could have used the keyboard, but I feel highly hampered by the game mechanics and having to use a mouse to navigate about.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:35:00 - [7] Originally by: DarkSacred Originally by: Nero Scuro Eh? What controls? You just use a ******* mouse. Thats my problem, would have been much better if you could have used the keyboard, but I feel highly hampered by the game mechanics and having to use a mouse to navigate about. It wouldn't have been much better, it would have been CS in space, not to mention laggy as hell. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
fairimear	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:38:00 - [8] its gone midday GMT so pls no more april fools its sad (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
DukDodgerz	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:39:00 - [9] Originally by: DarkSacred Originally by: MadGaz Linkage Funnily enough theres a picture saying "Free Trial" to the right as I type this, ah well sorry to hear you dont like it. Funily enough you need to know someone who already plays to take advantage of that. I'm not sure why the game randomly crashes, it just black screens then my PC reboots. Antivirus scan, trojan scan, spyware scan...then check your PC specs to be sure it meets the required hardware and OS... typical thing to see of a pc noob, blame anything other then their own mistakes...
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:39:00 - [10] FYI: Theres several game related website that hand out 14day free trial serials and dont require the buddy system thing. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DarkSacred	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:45:00 - [11] Originally by: DukDodgerz Originally by: DarkSacred Originally by: MadGaz Linkage Funnily enough theres a picture saying "Free Trial" to the right as I type this, ah well sorry to hear you dont like it. Funily enough you need to know someone who already plays to take advantage of that. I'm not sure why the game randomly crashes, it just black screens then my PC reboots. Antivirus scan, trojan scan, spyware scan...then check your PC specs to be sure it meets the required hardware and OS... typical thing to see of a pc noob, blame anything other then their own mistakes... My PC is and always has been virus/spyware and trojan free, and its specs can destroy any game on the market. Why I cant get the hang of the controls is because your in what is defined as an infinate entity so you have nothing to directly click on, clicking to go forward therefore continuiously moves you forward through the game, to turn youve got to doubble click to the side problem is click to the side and you can go up down or do a spin. Ive read alot of reviews of the game and alot say the control systems easy to use, yet its not easy to use especially compared to any other mmo ive played. Stop acting like a bunch of fanboys I'm not "dissing" the game (have hardly played it as its so hard to use the controls and my PC keeps crashing), I'm asking how I cancel a subscription and get some sort of refund for the days ive not used.
DarkSacred	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:47:00 - [12] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain FYI: Theres several game related website that hand out 14day free trial serials and dont require the buddy system thing. Yes because when you get a new game the first thing you do is google for fan sites
Scorpyn	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:52:00 - [13] To cancel the subscription, use the "my account" button to the left. For a possible refund I suppose you have to make a petition ("ask a question" on this site), I have no idea whether they will give you a refund or not though.
Reku	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:55:00 - [14] No wonder game seem too hard to you when you cant even figure out how to cancel your subscribtion by yourself.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:56:00 - [15] Originally by: DarkSacred Originally by: Joshua Foiritain FYI: Theres several game related website that hand out 14day free trial serials and dont require the buddy system thing. Yes because when you get a new game the first thing you do is google for fan sites Maybe you google for "EVE Online Free Trial" and get a few million results? -- The best description of alliances, ever:
Corto Maltese	Posted - 2005.04.01 16:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Reku No wonder game seem too hard to you when you cant even figure out how to cancel your subscribtion by yourself.
Haceldema	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:03:00 - [17] For the control issues I suggest you use your right mouse button in space. Experiment a bit and you'll see that it really isn't particlarly hard.
Arcticblue2	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:04:00 - [18] Originally by: DarkSacred Funily enough you need to know someone who already plays to take advantage of that. I'm not sure why the game randomly crashes, it just black screens then my PC reboots. Try and disable sound... (update your sounddriver later) if it continues to crash and reboot then I don't know what is the problem. But I used to have the same problem, disabled the sound and it worked... upgraded the sounddrivers and now game works... apart from I get disconnected from server alot... but that is another story. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor. 13:11
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:05:00 - [19] you dont use your keyboard, you use right clicking to "approach", "warp to", "orbit", "keep at range", etc. It takes some time but plenty of us are quite effective using these controls. ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Brej Donierik	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:14:00 - [20] If your computer reboots, the game may be causing a blue screen error, only you don't see it because you have your computer set to automatically reboot when it blue-screens. There's a way to disable that "automatically reboot" setting in the System icon in Control Panel. The crash may be caused by your video card drivers or perhaps sound settings. I know that some of the Sound Blaster cards cause a blue screen saying something about p16x.sys if they're set of full hardware accelleration. You can probably tone down the accelleration in Control Panel, Sound and Audio, there should be a slider in there somewhere. You can also run the event viewer (Start->Run, eventvwr), and click the System log to see if there are any red stop messages, and what may be causing them. If the computer reboots, it usually leaves such a message in the system log. The Known Issues and Workarounds forum on this site is full of answers to tech problems, and GM's and helpful players visit it regularly, I think, answering questions. As far as cancelling account, use the My Account menu from the menu column on the left side of this web site. You probably will not get a refund, but you will be allowed to play until your current month billed expires. If you click the Ask A Question menu on the left, under EVE Support, and give them the details of your system specifications and what happens, they'll contact you and try to fix the problem. In the EVE directory, there's a program called logserver.exe that can log every instruction EVE makes, and you can create a file and send it to them for debugging. Instructions on how to create various bug/log reports for them are here. And yeah, you don't click in space to move. EVE is destination-oriented. Right-click in space and you'll get a menu with all the destinations (stations, planets, asteroid belts) you can go to. Ship will autopilot there. For combat, you either right-click on the target and choose to orbit or approach, or you use the scanner thingy in the upper right corner. It's not a joystick game. Good luck.
F4nnyb4tter	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:26:00 - [21] Granted, the poster should probably give the game a little more of a chance as it does need some getting used to and is very rewarding when you do give it time. But the negative comments on here from idiots like Nero Scuro are pointless. If you can't say something useful then keep your mouth shut and don't flame all the time. Maybe some useful information to encourage this player to stick with eve and help build up the player base?
ThePilgrim	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:34:00 - [22] Originally by: F4nnyb4tter Granted, the poster should probably give the game a little more of a chance as it does need some getting used to and is very rewarding when you do give it time. But the negative comments on here from idiots like Nero Scuro are pointless. If you can't say something useful then keep your mouth shut and don't flame all the time. Maybe some useful information to encourage this player to stick with eve and help build up the player base? signed. Thank You - I couldn't agree more. I think there has been some very supportive and useful information pasted in this thread in what I would call the 'right' spirit of an MMO. Unfortunately, as always in every thread in these forums some people just can't help but mouth off and flame people without offering any help or advice. You should be ashamed of yourselves...if you have nothing constructive to say then you should not say anything. If everyone in this game was as dismissive and unhelpful as you guys then no new players would ever stick with this game and make it the great success that it is. Question? Do you treat your corp mates like this too?? Think about it... ====================================== dolce et decorum est pro libertas mori
RollinDutchMasters	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:37:00 - [23] Originally by: F4nnyb4tter Granted, the poster should probably give the game a little more of a chance as it does need some getting used to and is very rewarding when you do give it time. But the negative comments on here from idiots like Nero Scuro are pointless. If you can't say something useful then keep your mouth shut and don't flame all the time. Maybe some useful information to encourage this player to stick with eve and help build up the player base? There is no excuse for condoning stupidity. Perhaps you would be wise to consider that some of us don't want to have to deal with every idiot with a pulse while we're in-game. If we did, we'd buy WoW. Originally by: Sochin CCP has provided you with the tools you need to avoid crime. You're just too lazy/stupid to use them.
Corvus Dove	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:38:00 - [24] To the original poster: Don't feel bad. I came to this game over a year ago from EnB just like you probably did, which is what makes the controls confusing. It took me 7 months of play before I realized that I could move toward any point in space by double clicking in the direction I wanted to go.... There are some keyboard controls for modules, but movement is by "orders" or mouseclick. Why don't you post your system specs? Maybe a techie like myself can tell you where your problem lies. "You Griefer!!!" = "You Doodyhead!!!"
Ryy Kishin	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:38:00 - [25] Have a cookie Live Hard Die Young Leave A Good Looking Corpse!
meoff	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:45:00 - [26] Originally by: RollinDutchMasters Originally by: F4nnyb4tter Granted, the poster should probably give the game a little more of a chance as it does need some getting used to and is very rewarding when you do give it time. But the negative comments on here from idiots like Nero Scuro are pointless. If you can't say something useful then keep your mouth shut and don't flame all the time. Maybe some useful information to encourage this player to stick with eve and help build up the player base? There is no excuse for condoning stupidity. Perhaps you would be wise to consider that some of us don't want to have to deal with every idiot with a pulse while we're in-game. If we did, we'd buy WoW. Then why are you bothering to reply? Seems you are condoning stupidity by replying to a thread that you think is stupid.
Reku	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:49:00 - [27] Originally by: F4nnyb4tter Granted, the poster should probably give the game a little more of a chance as it does need some getting used to and is very rewarding when you do give it time. But the negative comments on here from idiots like Nero Scuro are pointless. If you can't say something useful then keep your mouth shut and don't flame all the time. Maybe some useful information to encourage this player to stick with eve and help build up the player base? Maybe that hes getting flamed is something to do with kind of post he made? Like claiming eve have no trial? First thing you get from google 'eve-online trial' is link to site that give trial key. Hard to cancel account? How on earth he managed to make one in the first place?
Grimwalius d'Antan	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:50:00 - [28] So let me get this straight : this isn't a 1st Aprils fool kind of thread? God, Im usually a master of sarcasm, can't believe I couldn't tell the truth from a joke...
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.04.01 17:52:00 - [29] Originally by: F4nnyb4tter Granted, the poster should probably give the game a little more of a chance as it does need some getting used to and is very rewarding when you do give it time. But the negative comments on here from idiots like Nero Scuro are pointless. If you can't say something useful then keep your mouth shut and don't flame all the time. Maybe some useful information to encourage this player to stick with eve and help build up the player base? PLEASE tell me where I flamed him. I said that: * The game uses a mouse, not keyboard - helping. * There are free trials available - helping. * You won't get a refund because you don't like a game - fact. * If the game was twitch orientated it would be worse - opinion. I really do find it amusing though, the amount of people who flame other people for flaming, usually when the original person hasn't flamed at all. I don't see YOUR post offering anything helpful at all. No, but you called me an idiot, so you are flaming. Troll. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
McBane	Posted - 2005.04.01 18:51:00 - [30] IÆm sorry, and fully appreciate that these forums are too full of flaming, but... In this case, this guy is a bit of a tit isnÆt he! HeÆs too lazy to be able to (A) find a free trial in the first place and then (B) be able to work out how to cancel his account. HeÆs obviously had sod all time to get used to the game since (A) heÆs only just started playing and (B) his computer keeps crashing yet heÆs too lazy to give it a chance and too lazy to try fixing the problems with his expensive, yet obviously poorly put together PC. Then he has the audacity to post in a forum populated my game addicts stating the game they play every day is crap and he wants to quit his subscription. Eve does not need people like this, flame all you like guys, better at a tit like this than at each other
MutationZ	Posted - 2005.04.01 19:12:00 - [31] Im helpful to people that "try" to help themselves. I dont think the original poster falls into this category. Perhaps he should stick to CS.
Badshah	Posted - 2005.04.01 19:21:00 - [32] when I first read about this game and saw screenshots I was really anxious to play. It ended up taking me two weeks to get the correct video drivers installed. But I stuck with it! And it was well worth the effort. I had to laugh out loud when the guy says the game is impossible to play... I do not recall ever having a problem with the controls. How does he account for the fact that it is one of the most popular games to date? Are all those people just staring at their ship in the hanger???? My two cents worth. Just me, Bad
0subzero0	Posted - 2005.04.01 19:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Nero Scuro Originally by: F4nnyb4tter Granted, the poster should probably give the game a little more of a chance as it does need some getting used to and is very rewarding when you do give it time. But the negative comments on here from idiots like Nero Scuro are pointless. If you can't say something useful then keep your mouth shut and don't flame all the time. Maybe some useful information to encourage this player to stick with eve and help build up the player base? PLEASE tell me where I flamed him. I said that: * The game uses a mouse, not keyboard - helping. * There are free trials available - helping. * You won't get a refund because you don't like a game - fact. * If the game was twitch orientated it would be worse - opinion. I really do find it amusing though, the amount of people who flame other people for flaming, usually when the original person hasn't flamed at all. I don't see YOUR post offering anything helpful at all. No, but you called me an idiot, so you are flaming. Troll. F4nnyB4tter must now restrain from all posting for at least 30 minutes as she is.... /me takes out stamp.... PWNED! Oh and signed for the flaming flamers flaming flame --------------------------------------------- Yea thats right, I went there (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2005.04.01 19:52:00 - [34] I don't know if it's april's joke, or truth, but i'll tell you what. I tried this game in beta, and didn't last more than an hour for the same very reason as the original poster's leaving. It's not the game's problem, it's your expectations of it. What i expected was a MMORPG version of Freespace with full keyboard used to control and no need for mouse at all. I find full-keyboard combat extremely hardcore, btw. But this game is complex in a different way, and many months later, after i recieved a free "for beta testers" trial i came back, and haven't left since. This game's complexity is everywhere but in it's controls. p.s.: oh and, if your pc crashes, it's 99.9% your own damn fault. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Droidster	Posted - 2005.04.01 20:27:00 - [35] EVE is kind of a Darwinian playground where players like this quickly go extinct before the Analytical Mind skill has time to take effect. _____________________________________________ I am motivated by various things, mostly ISK.
Scorpyn	Posted - 2005.04.01 20:33:00 - [36] Originally by: Alain Josviar Hi I'm a moron please help me find a brain. Brains usually gets very damaged upon pod squish, but there should be someone who has a useable one available for you. Try the market forum.
3rdD Dave	Posted - 2005.04.01 20:53:00 - [37] ..and there was me thinking Eve was populated by MATURE players. By feck was i wrong.In the short time ive been here ive noticed too many *******s on this forum are easyily riled and jump all over other ppl for the smallest and stupidist of things. just give the guy advice instead of blowing him off.. or say nothing. tards.
Alyth	Posted - 2005.04.01 21:02:00 - [38] It's your graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaphics caaaaaaaaaaaaaaard. I can almost certainly state that you have an Nvidia card running the latest drivers. I can also almost certainly state your PC running Windows XP is set to auto restart on a BSOD. To this end I can tell you with absolute certainty that you need to download driver cleaner pro, one of the 55.xx driver builds and go from there. You will notice a LOT less crashes that way. Also try this... Go into your prefs.ini in root/path to EVE install/cache. Set the buffersize to half your current amount of RAM. That should clear most things up too. Take three of those two times a day and come back in two weeks.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.04.01 21:03:00 - [39] Originally by: 3rdD Dave ..and there was me thinking Eve was populated by MATURE players. By feck was i wrong.In the short time ive been here ive noticed too many *****s on this forum are easyily riled and jump all over other ppl for the smallest and stupidist of things.** just give the guy advice instead of blowing him off.. or say nothing. tards. Well, you're half right. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
jbob2000	Posted - 2005.04.01 21:09:00 - [40] Originally by: DarkSacred When I did get in game I couldnt get the hang of the controls as their illogical and impossible to use due to the game mechanics. The game is a tactical space simulator, not a FPS or TPS space ship shooter. For future games, perhaps you should investigate the game further before you spend money on it. What I usually do is read through the whole F.A.Q, look at some screenshots, read reviews, and post any leftover questions on the main forum. ----------------------------------------------- CANADIAN
Reku	Posted - 2005.04.01 21:34:00 - [41] Originally by: 3rdD Dave ..and there was me thinking Eve was populated by MATURE players. By feck was i wrong.In the short time ive been here ive noticed too many *******s on this forum are easyily riled and jump all over other ppl for the smallest and stupidist of things. just give the guy advice instead of blowing him off.. or say nothing. tards. And here come the 'oh noes the community is mature enough, because they are not pollite to everyone who come ranting here'. You know what? I think my grandma is very mature and you know what she would do? She would give the original poster good spanking tell him to use google next time and do hes own research. In fact she would do it twice as original poster even asked how he can cancel account which should be quite obvious (atleast so I thought until today). Soon this thread have filled all the signs that board drama need. Only things that are missing is guys telling how we are all wrong and in fact it's all because fish-people that original poster is having these trouples and another thing that is missing is lock. Good day. Hope the original poster will find how to cancel his account and common sense.
3rdD Dave	Posted - 2005.04.01 21:40:00 - [42] Perhaps your granny should have taught your mother some manners which in turn she could have taught you.. Guess she was arrogant as well then.. oh well. DarkSacred : i also suffered from alot of crash to desktop problems. over 60 in 2-3 weeks. i solved this by REDUCING the directX sound acceleration to basic from FULL acceleration and havent suffered 1 since. Increase the cache as mentioned as well. try it, it `may` work. via RUN / type DXDIAG >> find the sound tab and reduce.
Ishen Villone	Posted - 2005.04.01 21:47:00 - [43] *IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH* Not everyone is going to like this game. Hell, he's right. The game controls DO suck as far as maneuvering goes. He tried it, didn't like it, and is quitting. All he wanted to know was how to do that.
Kunuu	Posted - 2005.04.01 22:23:00 - [44] Atleast i agree, manual control is an area where this game could use an improvement. I would like to get an indication that the game has registered a double click, often i find myself flying the wrong way because i clicked twice in a moment of lag , without noticing it. Would be cool if there was a spherical compas in the right corner of the screen where you could control heading in space.
Gakbug	Posted - 2005.04.01 22:24:00 - [45] Originally by: RollinDutchMasters There is no excuse for condoning stupidity. Perhaps you would be wise to consider that some of us don't want to have to deal with every idiot with a pulse while we're in-game. If we did, we'd buy WoW. Oh yeah, because all the idiots are in WoW? I'm not sure if you've realized but WoW is much more complicated than EVE. But then again, you've probably never even touched a WoW game box and try to diss it because it's the cool thing to do right now. http://netbux.org/?r=155833 Get paid to search using google.
Reku	Posted - 2005.04.01 22:45:00 - [46] Originally by: Gakbug Originally by: RollinDutchMasters There is no excuse for condoning stupidity. Perhaps you would be wise to consider that some of us don't want to have to deal with every idiot with a pulse while we're in-game. If we did, we'd buy WoW. Oh yeah, because all the idiots are in WoW? I'm not sure if you've realized but WoW is much more complicated than EVE. But then again, you've probably never even touched a WoW game box and try to diss it because it's the cool thing to do right now. Oh nooo... WoW would be way too complicated for him. I heard that creating and cancelling account there is even harder than its in eve. I think original poster should just stick with Mario Kart.
M0RIARTY	Posted - 2005.04.01 22:47:00 - [47] Originally by: Alain Josviar Hi I'm a moron please help me find a brain. Here ya go ==>Clicky<== To the Original poster.... Stick with it dude, over 10,000 peeps can't be wrong Noo sig comming SOONÖ =================================================== What are we going to do about all this ignorance and apathy?.... I don't know and I don't care!
w0rmy	Posted - 2005.04.01 23:53:00 - [48] Originally by: M0RIARTY [ To the Original poster.... Stick with it dude, over 10,000 peeps can't be wrong 10k outa 6.4billion... Yeah, they could well be wrong
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2005.04.02 02:53:00 - [49] Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 02/04/2005 02:59:21 Originally by: jbob2000 Originally by: DarkSacred When I did get in game I couldnt get the hang of the controls as their illogical and impossible to use due to the game mechanics. The game is a tactical space simulator, not a FPS or TPS space ship shooter. For future games, perhaps you should investigate the game further before you spend money on it. What I usually do is read through the whole F.A.Q, look at some screenshots, read reviews, and post any leftover questions on the main forum. I read gamesite and fansite forums. IMHO there's no better way to get authentic info about a game. Read through those forums for an hour or so and you have a general idea of what the game is about, read another hour and you have a decent review... if you filter out the nonsense that is. To the original poster: You should be able to cancel your sub in the 'my account' section. Once you're there click 'subscription details' and then use the link 'cancel subscribtion'. If I were you though I'd try to get rid of those crashes and give the game a day or two. I mean... you payed for it so why not give it a try? One or two days won't kill ya and once you get the hang of it it's really a good game. Mai's Idealog
MutationZ	Posted - 2005.04.02 03:49:00 - [50] Originally by: 3rdD Dave ..and there was me thinking Eve was populated by MATURE players. By feck was i wrong.In the short time ive been here ive noticed too many *******s on this forum are easyily riled and jump all over other ppl for the smallest and stupidist of things. just give the guy advice instead of blowing him off.. or say nothing. tards. rofl, u also come here and call ppl tards
Sesman	Posted - 2005.04.02 06:27:00 - [51] no wonder this game has under 12k players online when players cant even help the fellow, flamin a player is one thing but flamin a new player for not knowin what to do is low,
F'nog	Posted - 2005.04.02 07:35:00 - [52] It's all about attitude. If you post like the OP did, sounding whiney and offensive, you're bound to attract flames. If, however, you are respectful of things, like the game, and show you've attempted a few things to try to help yourself, you're much more likely to get useful, helpful answers. I know that I get annoyed when people post begging for information in a way that obviously shows they've done nothing to help themselves, but expect everyone to handhold them through it, I get annoyed. And when I'm annoyed, I'm more likely to respond unharmoniously.
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.04.02 08:53:00 - [53] bu hu ex P-TMC If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
DarkSacred	Posted - 2005.04.02 09:27:00 - [54] I dont get it, since when do you have to google for a free trial on a game? Every other MMO ive played either has the free trial open to every new player on their website or doesnt offer one at all, why is this game different? My PC specs are as follows, maybe someone can tell me where my problem lies with crashes. MS WXP SP2 AMD FX53 1024 MB Corsair TwinX Pro memory Direct X 9.0c RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition (256 MB) Sounds onboard of my ASUS AV8 Delux mb So I use the controls to preform basic comands such as approach, orbit etc insted of using them to acctually control the ship?? (I was expecting you to have a free ship that you could move with a joystick or using the keyboard, allowing much smoother and easier movement)
Verone	Posted - 2005.04.02 09:39:00 - [55] Originally by: DarkSacred I dont get it, since when do you have to google for a free trial on a game? Every other MMO ive played either has the free trial open to every new player on their website or doesnt offer one at all, why is this game different? My PC specs are as follows, maybe someone can tell me where my problem lies with crashes. MS WXP SP2 AMD FX53 1024 MB Corsair TwinX Pro memory Direct X 9.0c RADEON X800 XT Platinum Edition (256 MB) Sounds onboard of my ASUS AV8 Delux mb So I use the controls to preform basic comands such as approach, orbit etc insted of using them to acctually control the ship?? (I was expecting you to have a free ship that you could move with a joystick or using the keyboard, allowing much smoother and easier movement) Watch some of the videos on this site, and you'll see why controls for movement are basically on a right click menu... the PVP and PVE NPC action in this game can move VERY FAST... it does take some getting used to, but i think it's for the best... eve is a massively rewarding game when you put the time and effort into it. I found it hard at first, but after a couple of weeks you start get used to it. Either way, i hope you stay and work out a compromise. If you need any help getting to grips with the game mechanics etc, then drop me an eve mail in game and i'll see if i can help. COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET
Hellspawn666	Posted - 2005.04.02 09:52:00 - [56] hmm first off this guy has to be an alt trying to stir up ppl if this guy is a gamer as he says surly he can contemplate the first controsl like station menu's etc and basic use of the HUD. He seems rather too ideotic to be real just to stop anyone esle from flaiming it rele. The free trial option is all over the website or any adverts however i can understand how it may look a little confusing how to quit. If the poster is however for real dont think of eve as a normal space sim like freelancer just throw any preconceptions out of the window and start from scratch its the best way to learn since you dont fly your ship like in most space sim's you tell ure ship which modules to activate and where it should fly.
DarkSacred	Posted - 2005.04.02 09:55:00 - [57] The controls are not that hard (thanks to the guy who explained their not used to acctually "move" but to preform orders) still a little confusing, nothing like WoW or any of the other MMO's ive played (never played an MMO that is in a full 3D environment when you can freely move up down left right backwards forwards etc etc). Not to sound stupid or anything but how do I get a new ship? (something killed me and now I'm a floating egg)
Kayser	Posted - 2005.04.02 10:15:00 - [58] Originally by: DarkSacred The controls are not that hard (thanks to the guy who explained their not used to acctually "move" but to preform orders) still a little confusing, nothing like WoW or any of the other MMO's ive played (never played an MMO that is in a full 3D environment when you can freely move up down left right backwards forwards etc etc). Not to sound stupid or anything but how do I get a new ship? (something killed me and now I'm a floating egg) Just dock somewhere. You'll get a new Noobship for free everytime you loose yours.
DARTHEXIDOUS	Posted - 2005.04.02 10:29:00 - [59] What you mean you cant play the you are missing out then.Everyone has to get used to the controls when they first come to game so your not the only one my advice is give it another try calm down and do the tutorial dont do what i did and not do tutorial it will teach you for your experience in eve go to help channel talk to other players,ask questions we all was there at one point so you'll find helpful people in and around eve.I no someone whos disabled and they manage to use the controls so if they can play game then so can anyboby else its not that hard.
Ishan Shade	Posted - 2005.04.02 11:21:00 - [60] if you really don't want to pay for something like this, and you can't seem to "cancel" your subscription, you can always call your creditcard company and tell them to block the bills from EVE. This will basicly have the same effect as "canceling" your subscription
McBane	Posted - 2005.04.02 12:04:00 - [61] I would have given the original poster some respect if when i looked at his last posts there were posts asking for help in getting the game stable on his PC and advice on the control system and game play in general. I would even have restrained from flaming at him if the post simply asked how to cancel his subscription. But no, his first and only post basically amounts to slating the game and asking how to get his money back with little or no effort put into the problems he has with it. Anyone who goes to the trouble of posting this without first seeking help on the problems that got them to think that way has got to expect a jolly good flaming, and loses any respect in my view. And I'm highly dubious as to whether that was not his original intention anyway. It's fuel to the fire just as if I went to another games forum and stated that i thought the controls were rubbish, games crashes my PC and I want my money back. Instead this thread has just turned into a flaming match at each other - again, while the original poster has long since left us to it. That it what is a bit sad.
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.04.02 15:22:00 - [62] Quote: Instead this thread has just turned into a flaming match at each other - again, while the original poster has long since left us to it. That it what is a bit sad. Actually, he just posted this morning. So... It's not like there isn't a new players forum right at the top of the forum list, where he could have asked his questions without being flamed (if only because no-one but mods ever reads anything on that forum). ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
Gevronder	Posted - 2005.04.02 15:57:00 - [63] Edited by: Gevronder on 02/04/2005 15:57:29 OMG give the dude a break. I spent my first hour in this game trying to find the options to enable the joystick and keyboard controls. I was extremely disappointed to say the least when I discovered I had just subscribed to a point and clickly. I felt conned, I was expecting multi-player Elite with real piloting skills not sim-city in space. I went straight back to playing Everquest for a number of months. If it had crashed continously into the bargain I would have been even more narked off. I don't blame him for ranting TBH. I bet he feels all warm and cosy inside with the welcome you all gave him to.
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.04.02 16:34:00 - [64] Yeah, the biggest problem with this game is that people don't give it a chance. I only stayed through the initial grind because I needed a game to wind me down at night.. it's just not very engaging at first. The things that stand out are the worst parts of eve, travel time, waiting, mining.. you know, the boring stuff. I know people that would love the game but I can't get them to give it a chance.. i doubt there's anything ccp can do to fix this either, game requires a decent attention span, a bit of patience and appreciation of the complexity. Most younger people find these things 'boring', not engaging like most of us do. compare the age of players in this game to the age in other games. I cannot believe I play alongside 30 year old people.. I had a corpmate tel lme one of his alts use to belong to his son.. his SON? That's not typical for a computer game. Even the immature *******s in the game are much better then the normal player in any other MMORPG. Trash talking m0o? I would have paid to find a group of people as civilized as them in anything else.. i'm not joking either it's a shame though. at 21 I often feel young and immature myself when talking to other people. it's nice for once not feeling like i'm too old for a game though, heh. ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.04.02 16:45:00 - [65] Yeah, this game is for oldies. The only reason I play it is because I'm really anal and like attention to detail, so spending hours (no, literally hours) choosing my ship setup really appeals to me. But I don't like older corp mates, if only because they're usually a lot better than me. They can be bothered to sit around mining so they have hundreds of ISK whereas I have none, and they all have learning skills so they have SP through the roof. Stupid old people, hope they get arthritis... mutters ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.04.02 17:11:00 - [66] not old. I hope I didn't sound rude, I didn't mean to. I'm just saying. I went from oldest in the group to one of the youngest. It just feels weird ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS
Sadist	Posted - 2005.04.02 19:04:00 - [67] Oh my!, I didnt expect this thread to last long, but guess I was wrong...What do all you people care if he leaves the game or not? Do something useful ffs, instead of flaming. _______________________________________________
ErrorS	Posted - 2005.04.02 21:12:00 - [68] it's not that deep, we're just having some fun. We rule because we play eve.. if you don't play eve, you are inferior believe it, it's true.. we must use this thread to reinforce our beliefs ________ I'm strict Caldari "The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think? -ErrorS

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