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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Soratah As the subspace channels are a buzz with this information I have a statement.
1024 Kameiras and 150 marines have now been deployed covertly in a rapid strike against Blood Raider holdings. This primary purpose is the rescue of prisoners from the clutches of the Blood Raider terrorists, to smash their operation, and to round up their leaders in the system.
An official press release will follow soon
Well, it would certain appear that you're in full damage control.... cover up Myadra's indiscretion by launching a "heroic" raid into Blood Raider territory to "rescue" hostages. I must admit, you people have quite a way with spin....
Soratah is not CVA. Im sure he is just a loyal citizen who would rather be proactive in freeing people held by the Blood Raiders, rather then passively letting fellow Amarrians risk their immortal souls by dealing with them. --------------------------------------------------
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:18:00 -
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Most of you are operating under the impression that you have the authority to hold PIE and the CVA accountable.
We answer solely to God and to the Empire; you misguided lot are neither.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Gaius Kador on 04/04/2005 18:22:43 I see verbal diharrea has set in again, with presumptious fools leading a pathetic carnival of deviants and subhumans in a laughable attempt to besmirch that which they never can aspire to become.
You voice your opinion on PIE and our policies, you automatically assume too much.
I have some sound advice for the Raptor in particular, though his co-degenerates would be wise to heed it as well.
If you spent a fraction of the time wasted on degrading yourselves in public, on combat and fleet operations instead, you might find that hiring mercenaries to show you which way to point the barrels of your guns would be unnecessary.
Never ever question our loyalty and dedication to the Empire, nor our methods, for we have served honorably since the inception of pod technology.
This is just another challenge, and through turmoil the strong shall prevail, emerging stronger than ever. That is the story of PIE, and the CVA. From strength to strength.
We have never backed down from a test of character, neither will we do so this time.
Our minds are set on a course of action, and by God we shall see it through successfully.
End. ----------------------------------------------
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:22:00 -
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So you answer to God not the Emperor? You know with the Blood Raiders being a proscribed sect and all. --------------------------------------------------
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador ...( a lot of stuff that had nothing to do with why CVA allows their pilots to work for blood drinking pirates )...
Thanks for that Gaius - do try to stay focussed though. -- ** All accounts cancelled - have fun guys ** |

Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador Edited by: Gaius Kador on 04/04/2005 18:22:43 I see verbal diharrea has set in again, with presumptious fools leading a pathetic carnival of deviants and subhumans in a laughable attempt to besmirch that which they never can aspire to become.
You voice your opinion on PIE and our policies, you automatically assume too much.
I have some sound advice for the Raptor in particular, though his co-degenerates would be wise to heed it as well.
If you spent a fraction of the time wasted on degrading yourselves in public, on combat and fleet operations instead, you might find that hiring mercenaries to show you which way to point the barrels of your guns would be unnecessary.
Never ever question our loyalty and dedication to the Empire, nor our methods, for we have served honorably since the inception of pod technology.
This is just another challenge, and through turmoil the strong shall prevail, emerging stronger than ever. That is the story of PIE, and the CVA. From strength to strength.
We have never backed down from a test of character, neither will we do so this time.
Our minds are set on a course of action, and by God we shall see it through successfully.
End.
In this particular case, I have to agree with the presumptuous nature of the accusations against your organization. They do not seem well-founded.
However, you yourself have referred to this as "just another challenge" and have said that "[your] minds are set on a course of action." So that means then that you do indeed think there is a problem on the part of certain individuals and their relationship with the Blood Raiders? And what is that course of action? -----------------------------------------------
ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Gaius Kador on 04/04/2005 18:32:19 I have said what needs to be said.
Speculation is for the faithless. ----------------------------------------------
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 04/04/2005 18:36:33 Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 04/04/2005 18:35:38
Originally by: Gaius Kador
Speculation is for the faithless.
Only one who presumes himself as being owed blind faith should ask for it. And those words coming from the mouth of a mortal are blasphemous in their very nature. -----------------------------------------------
ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador Edited by: Gaius Kador on 04/04/2005 18:32:19 I have said what needs to be said.
Speculation is for the faithless.
Ah so your religous beliefs allows you to ignore the Emperors proscription against the Blood Raider cult?
* checks Gauis' clothes for spilt blood.
Your cheeks do seem to have a rosey glow to them recently Gaius. --------------------------------------------------
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador Edited by: Gaius Kador on 04/04/2005 18:32:19 I have said what needs to be said.
Speculation is for the faithless.
In alio pediculum, in te ricinum non vides
-- ** All accounts cancelled - have fun guys ** |

Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 04/04/2005 18:36:33 Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 04/04/2005 18:35:38
Originally by: Gaius Kador
Speculation is for the faithless.
Only one who presumes himself as being owed blind faith should ask for it. And those words coming from the mouth of a mortal are blasphemous in their very nature.
Are you branding me a blasphemer?
Read my post again woman, the true and unwavering service PIE has rendered the Empire since the inception of pod technology alone should make us deserving of your trust.
Do you think you can interview me like some gypsie reporter from a gallentean tabloid?
Your lack of Faith is disturbing. ----------------------------------------------
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:41:00 -
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Again, and I quote:
Most of you are operating under the impression that you have the authority to hold PIE and the CVA accountable.
We answer solely to God and to the Empire; you misguided lot are neither.
That is Enough.
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jakk Graiseach
Originally by: Gaius Kador Edited by: Gaius Kador on 04/04/2005 18:32:19 I have said what needs to be said.
Speculation is for the faithless.
In alio pediculum, in te ricinum non vides
Oh, Jakk, I love it when you talk Latin...  
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ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Jakk Graiseach
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jakk Graiseach on 04/04/2005 20:49:28
Originally by: Tarm
We answer solely to God and to the Empire; you misguided lot are neither.
Originally by: The Scriptures. Book II.
"Our Lord visited his flock and saw that all was not good. Blasphemy and heresy ruled the land. The Lord punished the sinners and drowned them in their own blood. But the people of Amarr lived righteously and in fear of God. Thus they were saved and became God's chosen one."
Wonder if 'god' would still feel that way in light of this news. Personally, if I were one of you guys, I'd be taking "swimming in your own blood" lessons about now.
You really are in denial huh?
Qui non est hodie cras minus aptus erit
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Gaius Kador
Are you branding me a blasphemer?
Read my post again woman, the true and unwavering service PIE has rendered the Empire since the inception of pod technology alone should make us deserving of your trust.
Do you think you can interview me like some gypsie reporter from a gallentean tabloid?
Your lack of Faith is disturbing.
I have been branding PIE and CVA as blasphemers from Day 1, and I have explained elsewhere why this is so.
And your "unwavering service" does not give you the authority to speak for your master, worm! God's word compels you to service, not the other way around... You cannot make a statement and then say that God backs you up because you are in service to him. He does not make Law upon the word of PIE or Gaius Kador! You ask for blind faith where you are owed none. No one but GOD has any such right!
Or has the power completely gone to your head by now? If there is a lack of faith in your words it is because they ring so hollow... the words of a man who uses GOD to substantiate his own place in this world. You would have God do your bidding would you? Here He is to make Truth of what you say? You hide behind your religious cloak, old man, when what you really are is nothing but a fork-tongued snake in our garden... and I will be pleased when you've been stamped out. -----------------------------------------------
ōąquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.04.04 20:47:00 -
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Oh my, nice try even though I don't even feel flattered.
Slightly amused, thats about it.
By the by, and I will get told off for this, I get the chance and your purged.
Trust me. ----------------------------------------------
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.04.04 20:58:00 -
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First other than Myadra there are no PIE pilots working for the Blood Raiders.
Those thinking otherwise are invited to spend the time to check the public standings of all PIE pilots... if you find this statement to be false I would like to know the names of any pilots. However as I trust our Pilots I am not going to take the time to investigate myself.
I suggest that those who wish to not sound like complete fools should... ah check their facts before speculateing.
Oh and Shira, I would suggest that stateing that PIE, an organisation that has in the last two years been recognised favorably multiple times by the Imperial Chancellor, is blasphemous is a fairly moronic statement.
You see the Imperial Chancellor is the direct deputy of the Emperor, who is the direct deputy of God. So If the Emperor does not find PIE blasphemous... who are you to do so?
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DeVries
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Posted - 2005.04.04 21:09:00 -
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It only takes 1 person to get a Bhaalgorn.
Isn't it already hypocritical enough for a supposed pro-Amarr corp to support a person with -3.65 Amarr faction standing and 9.80 Blood Raider corp standing? Will be be seeing another PIE pilot some time in the near future with a kidnapped "cousin" working for the Sansha or maybe even Minmatar? Will that also be dismissed as "just" 1 pilot?
Just goes to show there is corruption in any race and any corp. Might as well be honest about it |

Witch Doctor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 23:38:00 -
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Say what you will about the Conveniently Virtuous Alliance, but they are zealous in their beliefs, however misanthropic they may be. Personally, I do not see this discovery as an indictment but more as a corroboration of some unverified rumors that many members of the CVA held their noses while approving Myadra's application.
Her continued voluntary debasement at the feet of these deviants must be causing many hoods to tremble with silent rage in the halls of CVA headquarters. I can only imagine the sheer willpower required of the Grand Inquisitor not to throttle her into begging for forgiveness when passing her in the halls ...
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.04.05 00:07:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 05/04/2005 00:08:39 I would perhaps suggest that... one understand that there may be more to the situation than meets the eye.
You know why the pilot started to work for the Blood Raiders. Any Information about why the Admiralty of PIE inc chooses to allow her activities to continue is strictly classified as it would compromise the ability of said pilot to do what she has set out to accomplish.
In fact saying this much has been saying too much. I respectfully request that all PIE inc pilots no longer respond to this thread until the time is right for the information on this case to be declassified.
If some random pilots wish to try and use this situation to smear PIE's name, I would suggest that they wait and see what happens before their smear campaign bites them in the posterior as the more interesting details than that of mere 'standings' are made clear.
Nobiscum Deus! Ave Doriam II! |

Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.04.05 00:17:00 -
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All this criticism over nothing. All the lies and half truths and accusations in a vain attempt to stir the pot of discord and discontent.
Hurum, a lost and confused Minmatar, making his first appearance on Galnet picks a contraversial subject that makes one wonder what other influence he is working under.
Star Fraction, anarchists and terrorists who seek to disrupt the legal Amarrian way of life. Coming into our Empire and seeking to tell its citizens how to live.
You all forget the true tragedy here.
Lost, alone, chained to a wall without clothing, taken away from God and barely allowed to survive while being used for hideous blood raider experiments.
Trying to compare this travesty to the legal caring Amarrian slave trade is a joke. Amarrians and the SPCS care for their slaves and offer them the gift of enlightement. We bring them closer to God and give them purpose.
What purpose do the evil Blood Raiders give Myadra's sister?
None.
There is no comparison. While we Amarrians are kind, caring and compassionate in the care of the lost Minmatar beasts the evil Blood Raiders seek only to exploit and cause pain. They offer no gift of enlightenment, no holy scriptures for study, no right of prayer and worship of the almighty God.
No there is no comparison and those who fail to see that are as lost as the Minmatar we rescue from the myth of freedom. I can only pray some day all shall come to know God as I do and find a true purpose in life.
Archbishop
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DeVries
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Posted - 2005.04.05 01:34:00 -
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There is only one reason why anyone works for any of the established pirate factions right now and that answer is their specialized ships.
PIE would get more respect if they stop hiding behind smokescreen reasons and just simply admit they're working against their own empire in order to get a Bhaalgorn. Greed is at least an honest reason. |

Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.04.05 02:03:00 -
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Quote: "There is only one reason why anyone works for any of the established pirate factions right now and that answer is their specialized ships."
I'm sorry what is a "specialized ship"? Myadra is working to free her sister from the clutches of these dispicable people. This type of loyalty to an Amarrian family member is commendable and your pathetic attempt to call it anything else is ...... well ...... pathetic.
But about what I'd expect of a lessor species. 
Archbishop
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DeVries
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Posted - 2005.04.05 02:37:00 -
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Edited by: DeVries on 05/04/2005 02:44:04 Thought you Amarrians were all about loyalty to Empire first. Killing Amarrian Navy ships for the sake of one family member? How many hundreds of your own fellow Amarrians have died? So the good of the one now outweighs the good of the Empire? Funny how things change when a Bhaalgorn is at stake. |

theRaven
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Posted - 2005.04.05 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Archbishop There is no comparison. While we Amarrians are kind, caring and compassionate in the care of the lost Minmatar beasts the evil Blood Raiders seek only to exploit and cause pain. They offer no gift of enlightenment, no holy scriptures for study, no right of prayer and worship of the almighty God.
No there is no comparison and those who fail to see that are as lost as the Minmatar we rescue from the myth of freedom. I can only pray some day all shall come to know God as I do and find a true purpose in life.
Archbishop
And the Blood Raiders feel they are kind, caring and compassionate in the care of the lost Amarri beasts. 
Aww someone else is claiming the religion and God defences. What ever shall you do?
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.04.05 03:02:00 -
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These are serious accusations.
It would put my mind at ease to see CVA answering them seriously, not dismissively.
Minister - Public Affairs AEGIS MILITIA ATCR Forums |

Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.04.05 04:04:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 05/04/2005 04:16:07
Quote: "These are serious accusations.
It would put my mind at ease to see CVA answering them seriously, not dismissively."
Such a pity to see so many brought to their feet over a non-issue. Instead what is pathetic is the thought that someone in their first galnet communication ever would post such lies and half truths. Then again knowing who the original poster really is now just verifies what we already suspected about this communications origins. Ah the wonders of a modern intelligence network.
Archbishop
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Arenis Xemdal
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Posted - 2005.04.05 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri First other than Myadra there are no PIE pilots working for the Blood Raiders.
Those thinking otherwise are invited to spend the time to check the public standings of all PIE pilots... if you find this statement to be false I would like to know the names of any pilots. However as I trust our Pilots I am not going to take the time to investigate myself.
I suggest that those who wish to not sound like complete fools should... ah check their facts before speculateing.
You place much trust in your pilots, while calling others fools for speculating without facts. Perhaps you should speak with Xavier X, a member of PIE Inc. with +3.51 Blood Raider standing.
Has he betrayed your trust, or was his sister abducted too?
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.04.05 04:32:00 -
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Quote: "Has he betrayed your trust, or was his sister abducted too?"
His standing was achieved before joining PIE. In fact looking at his corp history I find over a dozen other corporations. Any more "suspects"? 
Pathetic. But like I said. Knowning where this original past REALLY came from now your reply isn't unexpected.
Archbishop
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2005.04.05 04:41:00 -
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*rubs temples slowly*
I know you're not implicating fellow Amarr in this....are you?
Is working relationship a year-long, forged in laserfire and guilded in blood, so easily questioned?
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