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Hurum
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Posted - 2005.04.03 21:53:00 -
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Everyone who reviews this comms channel has heard of PIE and CVAÆs claim to be the moral and religious guardians of the Amarr faith. We have all had to listen to the sanctimonious sermons delivered by Archbishop. We have all heard about how slavery is used to ôspiritually improveö a slaveÆs life.
And we have all known these for the lies they are. But perhaps you did not know of the allegiance between PIE and the heretical (even to Amarr sensibilities) cult of the Blood Raiders.
On a recent trip into the Bleak Lands to hunt down the aforementioned Blood Raiders, I noticed a large number of PIE vessels were in the area. At first I assumed they were hunting down the cultists themselves, until I realised many of the pilots were operating from the Raider run station in Oyanata.
It was there that I noticed a Bestower, piloted by the infamous slaver Myadra heading towards the Gallente federation. I also noticed that this pilot (and probably many more members of PIE and the CVA) has superb standings with the Blood raiders.
I am sure I do not have to tell you what such a scourge of the free peoples of EVE would be doing in a slave transport in Gallente space, and operating from a Blood Raider base at that? Given her standings with the Blood Raider Covenant there is no way she was rescuing sacrifices. So she must have been gathering innocents from Gallente and Intaki colonies to sate the diabolical needs of the Blood Cult.
I regret to say that I was unable to overhaul her transport, after she doubled back into the Bleak Lands (where she obviously feels safest) and I lost contact.
I believe that this activity sheds new light on the CVAÆs move into the unpoliced region of Providence.
Does anyone remember the smoke screen put up by Hardin in the pages of the EVE Guardian a few months ago when he falsely accused the noble Thukker tribe of supplying sacrifices to the Blood Raiders, obviously to hide his own tracks?
If the Amarr faith is true, and not simply a flimsy justification of their way of life every true believer in the Amarr faith will denounce the CVA and PIE for the heretics and traitors that they are.
The populace of the EVE cluster awaits their action.
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Ka'lorn Font'a
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Posted - 2005.04.03 21:59:00 -
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Edited by: Ka''lorn Font''a on 03/04/2005 21:59:26 May I point you to this fairly recent transmission located here with regards to the PIE Pilot Myadra.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.04.03 22:03:00 -
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If the Blood Raiders believe Gallentean blood is pure, then they're obviously more stupid that I'd have ever guessed. Still not as stupid as PIE, though... ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |

Hardin
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Posted - 2005.04.03 22:08:00 -
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Smokescreen? Accusing Thukker of making sacrifices to BloodRaider? Please point this out to me...
Honestly dont remember saying that but I could be wrong... it happens.
As my colleague has already poointe dout you need to read this communication.
I also see this is your first ever post. How wonderful that it needs to on such a controversial subject! How strange...
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Kostantin Mort
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Posted - 2005.04.03 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Kostantin Mort on 03/04/2005 22:22:13 That article was written by me, only by me and purely by me. Hardin had no say on what was written on that article and the CVA wasn't involved at all in any aspect of it. So your claim is naught. I was expressing my personal beliefs on the matter and in no way were they the ones of the CVA. It was a contreversial matter and I take full responsability for it.
(EDIT: Please don't open this again. I do realise that I made a slight mistake on writing that article. The article is not CVA-sponsored, so don't treat it as such. Treat it as if it's written by an outside source) ------
Dei Gloria "God is my shield and protector!" |

Hurum
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Posted - 2005.04.03 22:12:00 -
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Ka'lorn Font'a - am I to understand that it is PIE's official stance that a lone Amarr citizen (probably long dead) is worth the lives of hundreds, if not thousands, of Gallente, Caldari, and Amarr lives (note that I'm not even bothering to ask you in relation to Matari lives) and the propagation and support of a heretical cult.
Myadra must have been working very hard and very long for the Blood cultists to have SUCH a high standing. Being tht far in their good graces, they'll probably award her with their own custom vessels shortly.
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.04.03 22:36:00 -
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Quote: "It was there that I noticed a Bestower, piloted by the infamous slaver Myadra heading towards the Gallente federation. I also noticed that this pilot (and probably many more members of PIE and the CVA) has superb standings with the Blood raiders."
I realize as a pathetic Minmatar your forced to live in squalor and use antique technology. Thus it is understandable that THIS COMMUNCATION made several weeks ago has only now reached the uneducated ears of your kind Hurum.
You also claim "many more" PIE pilots we're working with the Blood Raiders and have high standing? Perhaps you'd be so kind as to reveal "all these other" PIE pilots?

Alas there is no story here but the ramblings of an insignificant Minmatar bent on sowing lies and deception. Claiming a plot and alliance where there is none Hurum instead twists a very old story of one PIE member seeking to free her imprisoned sister into some kind of heretic plot. I find it amusing that such a wretched uneducated creature as this Hurum would even make such accusations without any form of proof whatsoever.
Quote: "I am sure I do not have to tell you what such a scourge of the free peoples of EVE would be doing in a slave transport in Gallente space, and operating from a Blood Raider base at that? Given her standings with the Blood Raider Covenant there is no way she was rescuing sacrifices. So she must have been gathering innocents from Gallente and Intaki colonies to sate the diabolical needs of the Blood Cult."
Using the warped logic of your uneducated mind you seek to draw some kind of connection between "flying near someones space" and "kidnapping innocents". Perhaps you have proof of these activities as well? 
Ah the uneducated Minmatar. So much potential only to be trapped in the squalor and myth of "freedom". Hurum I would like to offer you a free ride in an SPCS bestower to the Amarr Center for Slave Reeducation in Amarr. There you will learn the true way of God and be prepared to take your rightful place as a servant of God and Amarr.
Archbishop
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jules winnfield
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Posted - 2005.04.03 23:29:00 -
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One PIE member would work so hard to free her half sister? Maybe then whe will gain an understanding of why we fight so hard to free our people? Maybe she will finaaly have revealed to her the injustices her empire would perpetrate against the people of other races they deem inferior.
Jules
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.04.04 01:14:00 -
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Ha ha ha.
Grow a spine. ----------------------------------------------
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2005.04.04 08:58:00 -
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I look forward for MUFF rejoining Ushra'Khan and putting their words into actions.
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Sforza
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Posted - 2005.04.04 10:39:00 -
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PIE have a jackal in their midst.
And no, Im not buying this 'sister' claptrap.
After all, I assume said Jackal is keeping the rewards the Blood Raiders are doling out, and would it be cynical to suggest that the Jackals sister will be returned as soon as a Bhaalgorn is offered by the Blood Raiders?
Sforza
CEO Vronsky Brothers and Sons
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.04.04 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 04/04/2005 11:46:14 The question is, if the 'return of the sister' involves, bizarrely, her being shipped back in a Bhaalgorn will PIE really field a ship of Blood Raider manufacture?
The Cosmopolite
The Star Fraction - Executor CEO: Jade Constantine |

DeVries
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Posted - 2005.04.04 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: DeVries on 04/04/2005 11:49:18 Nothing like a scandal to spice things up.
If these "defenders of the Amarrian Empire" can make up a blackmail story to justify shooting Amarrian navy ships, they can make up one to justify using a Bhaalgorn. |

Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2005.04.04 16:03:00 -
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Mmm...most disturbing and merits further investigation.
Though I'd recieved detailed information from reliable Amarri pilots who gave me specific coordinates regarding a significant number of Empire pilots working for the Blood Raiders, some field work would be useful in confirming these rumors. Barring lady Myadra's obvious plight, if CVA pilots are working for the Blood Raiders it'd rend them most hypocritical, even to their own society.
Furthermore, allowing the kidnapping of free Gallente citizens is most disheartening, but it seems the CVA's stance on kidnapping and terrorism is to give in to their demands, and in the process you've opened a wellspring of trouble.
I'll pray for you.  Glamour Bunnies Entertainment Corporation
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 16:16:00 -
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Edited by: Shira d''Radonis on 04/04/2005 16:31:38 Hurum, you know I hold you in high regard, but I think that perhaps you are being a bit presumptuous...
What would be the motives for PIE or CVA to be involved in dealings with the Blood Raiders? I'll concede that certainly some of them could be (and are) dealing with the Blood Raiders, but I don't see how this could be construed to be even unofficial policy...
Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas I look forward for MUFF rejoining Ushra'Khan and putting their words into actions.
I don't think they intend to rejoin U'K, but I do think they are trying to goad you into war with their corp. -----------------------------------------------
ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Soratah
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Posted - 2005.04.04 16:43:00 -
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Here in the midst of my brothers and sisters of Ubiqua Seraph we feel heartfelt sorrow for Myadra and the loss of her sister. This is a shining example of Amarr nobility, to put yourself at great risk to protect your family. We must also pray for the noble CVA/PIE admiralty particularly Light Kominiski and lieutenant Sabbott for their dilligent work in aiding Myadra's attempts to release her sister.
All Amarrians should join in unity to aid Myadra. As I speak I have already mobilised my divisions of Kameiras and Marines to the Bleak lands. We will save Myadra and her sister from their cruel fate with a massive rescue operation. I ask, no I implore that all Amarrians rally to the cause in this rescue operation. Mobilise your troops, and ships, set course for the Sahtogas system. So we can stand firm and bring aid to the lost.
Regards
Soratah
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Soratah Here in the midst of my brothers and sisters of Ubiqua Seraph we feel heartfelt sorrow for Myadra and the loss of her sister. This is a shining example of Amarr nobility, to put yourself at great risk to protect your family. We must also pray for the noble CVA/PIE admiralty particularly Light Kominiski and lieutenant Sabbott for their dilligent work in aiding Myadra's attempts to release her sister.
All Amarrians should join in unity to aid Myadra. As I speak I have already mobilised my divisions of Kameiras and Marines to the Bleak lands. We will save Myadra and her sister from their cruel fate with a massive rescue operation. I ask, no I implore that all Amarrians rally to the cause in this rescue operation. Mobilise your troops, and ships, set course for the Sahtogas system. So we can stand firm and bring aid to the lost.
Regards
Soratah
You'll excuse my hearty dose of skepticism of course... Myadra only cares about one person: Myadra. You give her the right length of rope, and I guarantee that she'll hang you by it. She was probably the one who sold her sister to the pirates...
You would do well to watch that one.  -----------------------------------------------
ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Soratah
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:02:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
Originally by: Soratah Here in the midst of my brothers and sisters of Ubiqua Seraph we feel heartfelt sorrow for Myadra and the loss of her sister. This is a shining example of Amarr nobility, to put yourself at great risk to protect your family. We must also pray for the noble CVA/PIE admiralty particularly Light Kominiski and lieutenant Sabbott for their dilligent work in aiding Myadra's attempts to release her sister.
All Amarrians should join in unity to aid Myadra. As I speak I have already mobilised my divisions of Kameiras and Marines to the Bleak lands. We will save Myadra and her sister from their cruel fate with a massive rescue operation. I ask, no I implore that all Amarrians rally to the cause in this rescue operation. Mobilise your troops, and ships, set course for the Sahtogas system. So we can stand firm and bring aid to the lost.
Regards
Soratah
You'll excuse my hearty dose of skepticism of course... Myadra only cares about one person: Myadra. You give her the right length of rope, and I guarantee that she'll hang you by it. She was probably the one who sold her sister to the pirates...
You would do well to watch that one. 
Perhaps she has seen the light of her previous ways and is trying to save her soul and her sister from the clutches of those Blood raider pirates. The more we all delay, the more depraved and heretical things those beastily Blood Raiders will force her to do. I propose an immediate rescue operation, with her sister returned to her she and the rest of her corp will not longer need to work with the Blood Raiders. Especially if those evil monsters force her to fly one of their own warships.
Regards
Soratah
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:04:00 -
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No problem with enslaving others, but dont like your own kind enslaved? 
Now what ever happend to the CVA stance to never negotiate with terrorists? You caved in regarding the stolen holy trinket, but that was because your emperor told you to (My how obedient to a decrepit old cyborg).
But your pandering in that sob story about an enslaved sister was pathetic. Was one female in distress all it took to buy your morals?
I cant wait till Sansha assimilate somones daughter, or Serpentis gets one hooked on drugs. Im sure you will be obedient little fedo for those pirates as well.  --------------------------------------------------
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Soratah
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor No problem with enslaving others, but dont like your own kind enslaved? 
Now what ever happend to the CVA stance to never negotiate with terrorists? You caved in regarding the stolen holy trinket, but that was because your emperor told you to (My how obedient to a decrepit old cyborg).
But your pandering in that sob story about an enslaved sister was pathetic. Was one female in distress all it took to buy your morals?
I cant wait till Sansha assimilate somones daughter, or Serpentis gets one hooked on drugs. Im sure you will be obedient little fedo for those pirates as well. 
Was that a reply to my post or about Myadra's situation?
If it was then I shall be clearer in my speach. I'll ignore the issue with the Cross, because im not in full possession of the facts and im not PIE inc. May I remind you of the current strength in unity and a hierarchical system that has allowed the Amarr empire to control over 42% of this Galaxy. The largest Empire up to date.
Please dont preach to me about morals or rights. Each person in OUR Empire cares for their family. Each Amarr chosen pilot considers themselves to be a member of that family. and as good families do, we offer aid whenever it is needed. Be it Sansha assimilation, Serpentis doping, or Blood raider whoring.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Soratah
Originally by: theRaptor No problem with enslaving others, but dont like your own kind enslaved? 
Now what ever happend to the CVA stance to never negotiate with terrorists? You caved in regarding the stolen holy trinket, but that was because your emperor told you to (My how obedient to a decrepit old cyborg).
But your pandering in that sob story about an enslaved sister was pathetic. Was one female in distress all it took to buy your morals?
I cant wait till Sansha assimilate somones daughter, or Serpentis gets one hooked on drugs. Im sure you will be obedient little fedo for those pirates as well. 
Was that a reply to my post or about Myadra's situation?
If it was then I shall be clearer in my speach. I'll ignore the issue with the Cross, because im not in full possession of the facts and im not PIE inc. May I remind you of the current strength in unity and a hierarchical system that has allowed the Amarr empire to control over 42% of this Galaxy. The largest Empire up to date.
Please dont preach to me about morals or rights. Each person in OUR Empire cares for their family. Each Amarr chosen pilot considers themselves to be a member of that family. and as good families do, we offer aid whenever it is needed. Be it Sansha assimilation, Serpentis doping, or Blood raider whoring.
Well negotiating with terrorists is against official CVA policy. It took quite a lot for them to cave in to get their religous doohickey back. But now everyone knows you just need to kidnap their relative and you own them 
There is probably only one original Blood Raider and the rest are working to free their enslaved sisters  --------------------------------------------------
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
Well negotiating with terrorists is against official CVA policy. It took quite a lot for them to cave in to get their religous doohickey back. But now everyone knows you just need to kidnap their relative and you own them 
There is probably only one original Blood Raider and the rest are working to free their enslaved sisters 
Lol, yeah, coz like, you big and tough Caldari never care for your family, and don't try to get em free no matter what, omg.
I support working for the Covenant, if there is no other option.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Originally by: theRaptor
Well negotiating with terrorists is against official CVA policy. It took quite a lot for them to cave in to get their religous doohickey back. But now everyone knows you just need to kidnap their relative and you own them 
There is probably only one original Blood Raider and the rest are working to free their enslaved sisters 
Lol, yeah, coz like, you big and tough Caldari never care for your family, and don't try to get em free no matter what, omg.
I support working for the Covenant, if there is no other option.
Do I have a "no negotitian" policy? Nope. Do I claim to uphold the will of the Emperor, yet work for a proscribed cult? Nope. Do I claim to be ruthlessly anti-pirate, yet work for pirates? Nope. --------------------------------------------------
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Tatsue Nuko
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tatsue Nuko on 04/04/2005 17:54:00 Humm humm...
So, CVA... Which of the following do you think causes the greater harm to God's work in the universe?
A) Letting one Amarri woman suffer the clutches of the Blood Raider Covenant. B) Actively aiding said covenant for quite some time time, most likely strengthening them extensively.
I smell a coverup...
Oh, and how many lives of faithful Amarri has fallen to Myadra's service to the Covenant? How many of your brothers and sisters under God has been killed in her self-serving quest for her sister? Hmm?
Tsk tsk...
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:55:00 -
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What I'm still trying to figure out is why everyone buys this argument of CVA's support of the Blood Raiders wholesale regardless of the fact that there's only evidence of one individual in PIE guilty of helping them, and even then, the reasons why are undetermined. -----------------------------------------------
ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.04.04 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shira d'Radonis
What I'm still trying to figure out is why everyone buys this argument of CVA's support of the Blood Raiders wholesale regardless of the fact that there's only evidence of one individual in PIE guilty of helping them, and even then, the reasons why are undetermined.
For the simple reason that PIE would kick out any member that went rogue like that, if you believe them. How can the Empires finest be associated with scum like the Raiders?
They harp on about the minnie terrorists but dont do anything about someone working for a much worse evil? --------------------------------------------------
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Soratah
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:03:00 -
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As the subspace channels are a buzz with this information I have a statement.
1024 Kameiras and 150 marines have now been deployed covertly in a rapid strike against Blood Raider holdings. This primary purpose is the rescue of prisoners from the clutches of the Blood Raider terrorists, to smash their operation, and to round up their leaders in the system.
An official press release will follow soon
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Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
For the simple reason that PIE would kick out any member that went rogue like that, if you believe them. How can the Empires finest be associated with scum like the Raiders?
They harp on about the minnie terrorists but dont do anything about someone working for a much worse evil?
That is evidence of nothing more than a passive-aggressive support of the Blood Raiders... they don't kick Myadra out because they lose less face by playing down her involvement with the Blood Raiders. If they kicked her out, they'd have to admit having made a mistake to let her in. None of this suggests any kind of conspiracy except the one to cover up her corruption. The fact that they even let her into their ranks suggests a sort of naivety that I never would've expected from CVA. -----------------------------------------------
ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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Seto Mazzarotto
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Discorporation
Lol, yeah, coz like, you big and tough Caldari never care for your family, and don't try to get em free no matter what, omg.
I support working for the Covenant, if there is no other option.
Well, that depends on the Caldari. Good little State drones take such situations in stride, and accept their relatives' fates as collateral damage. You know, that 'All For the Good of Many' doctrine that they love to throw about when comes time to part with something you don't want to.
But Caldari who claim their own free minds do otherwise.  ----------- Fighting for the ideals of freespace, posthuman ethics, and rock & roll. |

Shira d'Radonis
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Posted - 2005.04.04 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Soratah As the subspace channels are a buzz with this information I have a statement.
1024 Kameiras and 150 marines have now been deployed covertly in a rapid strike against Blood Raider holdings. This primary purpose is the rescue of prisoners from the clutches of the Blood Raider terrorists, to smash their operation, and to round up their leaders in the system.
An official press release will follow soon
Well, it would certain appear that you're in full damage control.... cover up Myadra's indiscretion by launching a "heroic" raid into Blood Raider territory to "rescue" hostages. I must admit, you people have quite a way with spin.... -----------------------------------------------
ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö
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