So you complain about the existence of other forums that deal with eve. Ok.

That discussing ended at about the same time as Goonswarm lost Delve - and not in the way you seem to assume it did.

Nowadays the pubbies run the asylum and the ~truegoons~ have left towards greener pastures (winning EVE, joining PL, ...)

You didn't explain why you feel it needs to be stopped.

I feel that "pubbies" deserve the opportunities that the "non-pubbies" have.

They have the same opportunities. They can form their own alliances and invite their own friends from their own social communities and tell people they hate them because they post too much on forums. Nothing is preventing them from doing that.

There is still a large quantity of cultural veterans in Goonswarm. In Goonswarm, newbies are regularly accused of being spies and JFGs without any evidence which suggests that such allegations are true.

i dont haev a reddit account, im in TEST. mad because rejected bro?


wololo

Very true, however it takes dedication to bring in a large number of people from a solid community (not everybody is a part of a community which would be interested in EVE. What about the casuals who just want to play internet spaceships? Should they have to endure this attack?

i dont haev a reddit account, im in TEST. mad because rejected bro?


wololo

I feel that "pubbies" deserve the opportunities that the "non-pubbies" have.

He tried to get into TEST ... let me guess here, I think I got it ... he contracted over stuff or gave money.

Haha

Confirming that only reddit users are allowed in the HBC, and that only Something Awful members are allowed in the CFC.

Yes. I think this is where your argument falls apart.

It seems he was refused because he makes too many dumb threads on Reddit.

It seems he was refused because he makes too many dumb threads on Reddit.

In other MMOs, these "communities" do not verbally attack, reject and generally abuse people who aren't part of their little group. I have no problem with folks getting together from other areas of the internet/rl, however I have a problem with such folks using this to give themselves a sense of "I'm better than you" over everybody else.

It is happening, right here! Cultural elitism! They are persecuting me because I do not post in the style that they would like me to post in. This is outright rejection because I don't share their culture.

There is only 1 group that actually does what you say that I've seen, and that's Goons. TEST usually run around calling themselves ****, and they do have some corps that openly recruit. Goons go under a different motto.

In other games they are pretty much the same. WoW for example had Elitist Jerks, which ironically merged into Goons.

Very true, however it takes dedication to bring in a large number of people from a solid community (not everybody is a part of a community which would be interested in EVE. What about the casuals who just want to play internet spaceships? Should they have to endure this attack?

In other MMOs, these "communities" do not verbally attack, reject and generally abuse people who aren't part of their little group. I have no problem with folks getting together from other areas of the internet/rl, however I have a problem with such folks using this to give themselves a sense of "I'm better than you" over everybody else.

Well you are not in Goonswarm or whatever so what business is it of yours?

Presumably if the people in the Alliance or whatever don't like it, they can leave on their own.

Stop being such a busy body.

Admittedly, TEST are much more open. The thing is with WoW - the majority of corps were not elitist. In EVE, the entire northern section of the map (now invading further downwards..) is under the grasp of a volatile and rejectionist culture.

Admittedly, TEST are much more open. The thing is with WoW - the majority of corps were not elitist. In EVE, the entire northern section of the map (now invading further downwards..) is under the grasp of a volatile and rejectionist culture.

Yeah seriously, did you walk out yesterday and get primaried by an Alphafleet or something?

You are complaining about the two biggest ******* alliances being assholes. Why would you even want to join them anyway? They can do whatever they want with their recruiting. If they are using stupid rules and methods for their recruiting then that just goes to show how just how stupid they are.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Now with that understood are you proud to be affiliated with them through those forums?

The OP gives a whole new meaning to the words "entitled hisec pubbie"

I spend most of my time in Null Sec. I only go to high sec to deal with corporate activities - I live in Northern Nullsec. I am regularly attacked in local.

I'm complaining about the following:

- People who aren't a member of these "external" forums have significantly less opportunities in null sec
- The generalization of a very diverse group of people
- The cultural elitism
- Active and long-standing members of these communities are being rejected because of strict posting requirements

Well, I think we should petition CCP to fund a well equipped paramilitary force to violently shut down any and all community servers/providers which are hosting forums and/or knowledge bases not in conjunction with our own alignment/opponions.

Who's with me?

A few months ago, The Mittani was launching a cultural purge of what he defined as ~bad posting~ within his space empire. We are seeing very dark and grim social relations develop here in New Eden - a different kind of elitism.

ITT someone realizes that local is **** in game, much like the OP here. Congratulations Preencleeve, and thanks for the :tenbux: again. I'm sure the overlords appreciate it.

You stalked The Mittani, you shitposted on SA, and now you feel 'persecuted'?

This gets better and better

Get out.

Ok renter with funny names.

I've been personally attacked for being a pubbie 4 times since posting this thread. This is an example of why cultural elitism is a bad thing for me, for you and for the growing new-player base in EVE.

I think its wise to take a look at the Russian situation down in the south. The russians joined as a community and then played with the mechanics without causing grief or distress to other people who weren't part of their russian community. When spending time in the south, I'm rarely attacked for not being Russian or Solar Fleet.

This is exactly what I mean. Cultural elitism is being used to stir up irrelevant points because of some "posting" superiority. It is crazy.

This is exactly what I mean. Cultural elitism is being used to stir up irrelevant points because of some "posting" superiority. It is crazy.

No, you're just madder then a bag full of cats, and you don't get that you really need to spend more time meeting real people and socialising rather then going onto internet forums or spaceship games, getting trolled due to previous situation vis a vis bag of cats and then going nuts when you take it personally.

This is like, what, the 3rd time I've seen you start publicly posting stuff which is just going to attract that sort of attention?

No need to get personal.

Just trying to give you some advice, but hey knock yourself out.

Why would you want to be a part of TEST or Goons OP?

I don't, but I feel that pubbies should be allowed to have a peace mind when interacting with people from such alliances. I am happy building a strong "pubbie" alliance which caters to the rejected and neglected.

Good luck o7.

Weren't you perma'd?

The non-pubbies are frequently attacked verbally and physically by these alliances.

Thanks. I think its best to put what's in the past in the past - the goal of all pubbies now is to form a strong alliance against the oppressors. Slowly and surely, a strong network of infrastructure can be built through industry and PVP. I was given permission to make new accounts.

Thanks. I think its best to put what's in the past in the past - the goal of all pubbies now is to form a strong alliance against the oppressors. Slowly and surely, a strong network of infrastructure can be built through industry and PVP. I was given permission to make new accounts.

I see a lot of threads wherein pubbies say "Let's work together to stop goons"

I have yet to see a decent attempt at it or a good reason as to why goons should be stopped.

Look at his posting here.

Is this in any way a surprise to anyone here, at all?

There is one simply reason why they should be stopped. They upset people.

Preencleeve, Please stop posting and get some professional help.

Preencleeve,

Please stop posting and get some professional help. This culture of elitism that you're trying to campaign against really isn't there. I'm in Dreddit with a reddit account that has zero posts to it, and beyond the trash talking in local there is no elitist attitude that all TESTies and Goons have toward the rest of EVE. Sure we sperg about our enemies and point out their flaws, but that's no different than any other coalition or alliance in the game. Goons and TEST rejected you because of who you are, not because of their origins or cultural perspective.

Just stop while your right now. You need to step away from the computer and go have a real life. Find some to talk to who will hear you out, a friend or a professional, and sort out your problems. That's my professional opinion as an educator.

What do you teach?

I'm in special education so a little of everything. I mostly work with kids with emotional or behavioral issues. I can't say for sure if you would be recommended for one of my classrooms (it's not easy to assess someone over forum posts, chat logs, and sound bytes) but based on what I've heard and seen your best option is stepping away from the keyboard and talking to someone face to face who will hear you out.

Test Alliance is regularly rejecting 2 year + active posters on Reddit because they're posting several threads everyday.

There is one simply reason why they should be stopped. They upset people.

Don't worry, the only part of EVE that will matter soon enough is highsec.

You're safe under the eyes of CONCORD.

Hm, do I get you right that you're sort of a White Knight trying to help newbie players like me so they have a chance to get into CSF?

Too much effort, at least for me. Who wants to join the winning side and the mainstream? The poor scrubs and underdogs are much more appaling.

I'm in special education so a little of everything. I mostly work with kids with emotional or behavioral issues. I can't say for sure if you would be recommended for one of my classrooms (it's not easy to assess someone over forum posts, chat logs, and sound bytes) but based on what I've heard and seen your best option is stepping away from the keyboard and talking to someone face to face who will hear you out.

Very true, however it takes dedication to bring in a large number of people from a solid community (not everybody is a part of a community which would be interested in EVE. What about the casuals who just want to play internet spaceships? Should they have to endure this attack?

I simply want to provide the non-elitists with a relaxed yet organized environment in which they can truly succeed in.

People aren't always who they seem on the internet.

you mean, the exact thing test provides?

you just seem like some bitter person who hasn't got a clue about the topic at hand here.

This is true but your obsession with Goons and TEST, which has gone on for at least a year is not good. You started out idolizing Goons, was recruitment scammed, then got an SA account which was banned for some reason I don't know and then developed a hatred for Goons and their affiliates because you felt your character was attacked when it really wasn't. Your efforts to get into TEST play out pretty much the same way.

Seriously, this type of obsession born from a misplaced hatred is unhealthy. Get help.

TEST won't let me in though. Explain that?

So you complain about the existence of other forums that deal with eve. Ok.

TEST won't let me in though. Explain that?

There is only 1 group that actually does what you say that I've seen, and that's Goons. TEST usually run around calling themselves ****, and they do have some corps that openly recruit. Goons go under a different motto.

It is happening, right here! Cultural elitism! They are persecuting me because I do not post in the style that they would like me to post in. This is outright rejection because I don't share their culture.

TEST won't let me in though. Explain that?

I am a very happy and social person. I feel that being content with life is all that matters, don't you agree?

One problem.

I joined SA after I joined goons. I was "recruited" from in game, and I joined SA of my own free will when I saw the art forums. No one asked me to join or ever told me to join.

There is one simply reason why they should be stopped. They upset people.

You mean https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe is a scam ?

He could have been sponsored in.

Posting in a legendary thread.

+1

le have my upboat

legndary bread

le LEL

Ok Goon pet.

You need to learn what a "renter" is. Hint: It's somebody that pays rent.

At least I am not afraid to reveal my alliance and corp, unlike some people. That and my name doesn't sound like the sound made when someone sneezes...

Goonie tears in yet another thread. Recruit more people, you'll feel better.

Posting in a legendary thread.

Yes you are. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75231886/revolution.gif

so yeah now that you've told everyone who you are

got your mom's credit card ready for another account?

I think that EVE would be much better if we could all just get along.

so yeah now that you've told everyone who you are

got your mom's credit card ready for another account?

ok.. serious post time.


The rejectionist culture you speak of is something I have also noticed. As an aspie I often find myself at odds with people who have stupid methods or ideas. This does not mean I am unable to tolerate and "blend in" to various cultures both online and in the real world. The truly interesting fact is that out of all the cultures I have encountered the only one that I am quite literally unable to emulate or blend in too is that of SA/Goons.

The concept of harsh rejection-ism is not alien to me however the level of intensity and consistency of it within the SA community is beyond my ability to fathom. They want to perpetuate this image that they are "hip" and "cool" while they are really just a bunch of people themselves. They are essentially hipsters but far more intelligent and culturally sophisticated.

The truth is that cultures like SA and goonswarm simply cannot survive in the real world as a legitimate culture without at least some level of compromise. For the SA forums that level of compromise is the strict forum rules that hold everything about their culture in place and prevent it from rotting in its own smug grandiosity. No such level of compromise exists in the eve universe and as such goons that would normally keep their bad posting to FYAD or OIFY simply bad post when ever they feel like it on the eve forums.

ok.. serious post time.


The rejectionist culture you speak of is something I have also noticed. As an aspie I often find myself at odds with people who have stupid methods or ideas. This does not mean I am unable to tolerate and "blend in" to various cultures both online and in the real world. The truly interesting fact is that out of all the cultures I have encountered the only one that I am quite literally unable to emulate or blend in too is that of SA/Goons.

The concept of harsh rejection-ism is not alien to me however the level of intensity and consistency of it within the SA community is beyond my ability to fathom. They want to perpetuate this image that they are "hip" and "cool" while they are really just a bunch of people themselves. They are essentially hipsters but far more intelligent and culturally sophisticated.

The truth is that cultures like SA and goonswarm simply cannot survive in the real world as a legitimate culture without at least some level of compromise. For the SA forums that level of compromise is the strict forum rules that hold everything about their culture in place and prevent it from rotting in its own smug grandiosity. No such level of compromise exists in the eve universe and as such goons that would normally keep their bad posting to FYAD or OIFY simply bad post when ever they feel like it on the eve forums.

Preencleeve and Xenuria: A match made in heaven and YouTube.

hey prencleeve i realize that i'm basically just reiterating what you have been told so many times by now but this is v. serious:

you have been at this little game for over a year now. consider that: over a year's worth of your free time (which is a lot of free time) dedicated to a fight that you cannot win and for a dumb cause

consider what other people your age are doing, probably playing games outside while gaining an understanding of social cues, acceptable behavior, boundaries, etc. which are useful things to understand considering that, you know, people your age are doing things like dating semi-seriously, and later on those things will help you when you have a real job

again, what have you been doing while your schoolmates are doing these things? throwing away your free time for the sake of a fight you will never win.

think 'bout that for a while and then consider the whole "spend the rest of this wednesday afternoon gaining nothing" thing

I can't see how putting Xenuria and an adolescent in the same room with each other will end well.

This was the obvious joke but I was afraid of making it. You get a like.

I'm I missing something here? I don't get it.

I've given up the fight as per your own rules. I'm just going to cater to people like me - I'm not waging a war against you. I just wanted to start a discussion on the forums....

I've given up the fight as per your own rules. I'm just going to cater to people like me - I'm not waging a war against you. I just wanted to start a discussion on the forums....

hey prencleeve i realize that i'm basically just reiterating what you have been told so many times by now but this is v. serious:

you have been at this little game for over a year now. consider that: over a year's worth of your free time (which is a lot of free time) dedicated to a fight that you cannot win and for a dumb cause

consider what other people your age are doing, probably playing games outside while gaining an understanding of social cues, acceptable behavior, boundaries, etc. which are useful things to understand considering that, you know, people your age are doing things like dating semi-seriously, and later on those things will help you when you have a real job

again, what have you been doing while your schoolmates are doing these things? throwing away your free time for the sake of a fight you will never win.

think 'bout that for a while and then consider the whole "spend the rest of this wednesday afternoon gaining nothing" thing

You mean https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe is a scam ?

Many people with autism lead great and productive lives.

You should learn their ways.

You have to understand that he probably understands what you are saying but simply thinks that the cause he is fighting for is important enough. When it comes to choosing which hill to die on, aspies tend to want to die on every hill they can. In simple terms, PG is doing this not because he enjoys it or because its a leisurely activity but because he feels strongly that it is the right thing to do.

There are few things more stubborn than an aspie that thinks he is doing the right thing. I myself often have great difficulty in realizing when to back down from something I feel is a noble endeavor.


The only way you are going to shut him down or convince him that he has better things to do is to formulate a seriously potent argument that both appeals to his position and articulates the numerous alternative outcomes that would/could be more desirable than the ones he is chasing.

I'm not/don't.

I've given up the fight as per your own rules. I'm just going to cater to people like me - I'm not waging a war against you. I just wanted to start a discussion on the forums....

Well, there are no people like you, there is just you.

You have to understand that he probably understands what you are saying but simply thinks that the cause he is fighting for is important enough. When it comes to choosing which hill to die on, aspies tend to want to die on every hill they can. In simple terms, PG is doing this not because he enjoys it or because its a leisurely activity but because he feels strongly that it is the right thing to do.

There are few things more stubborn than an aspie that thinks he is doing the right thing. I myself often have great difficulty in realizing when to back down from something I feel is a noble endeavor.


The only way you are going to shut him down or convince him that he has better things to do is to formulate a seriously potent argument that both appeals to his position and articulates the numerous alternative outcomes that would/could be more desirable than the ones he is chasing.

Since you are quite a bit older than Prencleeve, you should talk to him about your experiences in social situations and your techniques for handling them.
Maybe after talking to a likeminded individual he will see that it is possible to get help, even if it is just by talking to a friend about your issues instead of making threads like this.

You have to understand that he probably understands what you are saying but simply thinks that the cause he is fighting for is important enough. When it comes to choosing which hill to die on, aspies tend to want to die on every hill they can. In simple terms, PG is doing this not because he enjoys it or because its a leisurely activity but because he feels strongly that it is the right thing to do.

There are few things more stubborn than an aspie that thinks he is doing the right thing. I myself often have great difficulty in realizing when to back down from something I feel is a noble endeavor.


The only way you are going to shut him down or convince him that he has better things to do is to formulate a seriously potent argument that both appeals to his position and articulates the numerous alternative outcomes that would/could be more desirable than the ones he is chasing.

I don't know, I figured "hey, other dudes your age are kissing girls and you're fighting for some ~noble~ e-cause that you can't win anyway" would drive the point home

You have to realize that you're not the only one capable of reading people. Those with aspergers are not the only ones with that power!

~Words~

Can I not do both?

shut up gewnie

eve needs more pepes like xenuria and this preencleeve fewllow, the kind of person who wil stand up for the moral rights of men in a harsh universe. the GEWNS are just tryants who probasbly flip burgerds all dasy ay mcdonalds

do not let the goon negiotate with you. the goons willlie and steel to get what theyt want.

the goons just want you to lose your individuality so you become just another goonswarm drone flying a supercap so that the goons leadership, namely the mittani and riverini, can continue to make REAL WORLD PROFITS OFF AD TRAFFIC on their websites.

the hi sec propbeletriare has the chance to rise up for the rights of men and this chance will nevar come again. FOR THE REVOLUTION!

I may not be the only person capable of reading people but I am better at it than most. I would think if people like andski understood how to read people at this level they would act with more understanding. PG is not all that complicated, he is a person like the rest of us and people have needs. PG's need appears to be vindication and acceptance. This is not uncommon for people like us. The need to be right often erodes the need to have friends.

I haven't flipped burgers in 20 years.

I actually have the luxury of never having to work again. I'm retired, I bullshit on the forums during the day while palying EVE, go to the bar at night with my little brother, and pick up women much younger than me.

Some people need a shovel, rope, and lime. Others of us are just cool dudes.

I may not be the only person capable of reading people but I am better at it than most. I would think if people like andski understood how to read people at this level they would act with more understanding. PG is not all that complicated, he is a person like the rest of us and people have needs. PG's need appears to be vindication and acceptance. This is not uncommon for people like us. The need to be right often erodes the need to have friends.

I wish I was you.

I haven't flipped burgers in 20 years.

I actually have the luxury of never having to work again. I'm retired, I bullshit on the forums during the day while palying EVE, go to the bar at night with my little brother, and pick up women much younger than me.

Some people need a shovel, rope, and lime. Others of us are just cool dudes.

You should, people actually like me.

I am directly affected by this elitism on a regular basis. I was traveling in Northern Nullsec a few days ago, I said "hi, how's everybody doing?" in local. I was quickly insulted and attacked because I wasn't part of your little group.

The negative attitude has not chased me away, but it has made me unenthusiastic about playing so much. I've cancelled 2 of 4 accounts, utterly stopped manufacturing except for simple Fuel Blocks, and I just sort of 'putter around' when I'm on.

Oh noes

Were your feelers all hurt?

>Insert link to carebears running from a monster and/or link to Hello Kitty Online here<

How awful for you.

I don't know, I figured "hey, other dudes your age are kissing girls and you're fighting for some ~noble~ e-cause that you can't win anyway" would drive the point home

Internet people don't like me because I act stupid on the internet.

WOOW. Xenuria - I've admired you before. I'd appreciate if you didn't say things like "people like us". No offence.

Requesting ISD to lock thread.

Internet people don't like me because I act stupid on the internet.

a liar tou r

you probalby hired some minority worker for half minimum wage from mexico to flip burgers on your behalf, just like you force pubbies into slavery on EVE.

go back tot he 1600s slave ships and be the guy who whips them you'd be content

I think you are still missing the point. It's not always about winning.
Sometimes it's about doing the right thing even if that means never achieving your goals.

I could be out kissing girls and losing my virginity but I have chosen a different lifestyle for right now. I have made a fair trade because some day I will be able to have a job I enjoy and a pay that allows me to spend money on other people. Instead of "kissing girls" I sit at home and do research or bury my face in a book for a time. I do more in a day than most normal people do in a week.


Now I am unsure what PG hopes to gain by making the trade he is. I will say no you normally can't have both. I tried it. My work inevitably spills over into my social life. Telling girls about pedophiles of furries you have been tracking isn't exactly an ice breaker or something that stimulates a romantic environment. If I can find a girl who gets turned on by vigilante justice and gets hot at the idea of a guy who knows more about her anatomy then she does then it could work.

That's rare though.

Make it easy PG. Choose one or the other.

I could be out kissing girls and losing my virginity

Yh but I don't find that stuff fun. I just want to have a good time - if working and getting money allows me to do this, then fine. At the moment I'm just posting on forums getting lots of attention.

I could be out kissing girls and losing my virginity but I have chosen a different lifestyle for right now.

well i guess thats one way to spin it. v0v

Let's be real here. This a serious thread and your trolling attempts are just not welcome.

women want me because of my anti goon ways i have impressed many wimen over time by ranting aboutg GEWNS on my date. most of them run away but the ones who don't are a perfect match for me

I thought it was because the Ministry of Love shot your POS.

Anslo, did you hack Preencleve's account?

I think OP does not realize that even veteran players that he considers "elite" get laught at and/or persecuted every day in this game. But OP may be right about this being a strong fact within the Goon culture.

Take The Mittani for example. I heard he gets laughted at on comms and VFK local chat every day. Most of is members destroy is ship and even pod him as soon as he undocks. Why do you think he sends is members blobing all across Eve. Its because he will not undock from is VFK station as long as there are people from is alliance that shows up in local. I heard he bitches a lot about AFK cloackies for that very reason.

Yeah OP...Goons are like that. But they dont just target noobs.

Thanks for this

I think OP does not realize that even veteran players that he considers "elite" get laugh at and/or persecuted every day in this game. But OP may be right about this being a strong fact within the Goon culture.

Take The Mittani for example. I heard he gets laughed at on comms and VFK local chat every day. Most of is members destroy is ship and even pod him as soon as he undocks. Why do you think he sends is members blobing all across Eve. Its because he will not undock from is VFK station as long as there are people from is alliance that shows up in local. I heard he bitches a lot about AFK cloackies for that very reason.

Yeah OP...Goons are like that. But they dont just target noobs.

I love you.


Mittens would have to log into Eve in order to not undock from VFK though.

I hate goons and test because they think they can rule over all of null and leave no room for enemies/rivalrys/neutral entities. They push out new/young alliances and install their own. it would be one thing if they did the things they did against a true enemy, but for now it looks like they just go after whomever is closest to them. declare war and grind. The cycle never stops.

Typical example of reddit posting standards.

99% of posts on reddit are exactly like this.

How hard is it to just say



Once every couple of days on reddit? That's all you need to get into dreddit. Somehow you managed to be worse than that?

Pizza alt? Probably.

I hate goons and test because they think they can rule over all of null and leave no room for enemies/rivalrys/neutral entities. They push out new/young alliances and install their own. it would be one thing if they did the things they did against a true enemy, but for now it looks like they just go after whomever is closest to them. declare war and grind. The cycle never stops.

you speak of pubdom as if it was a bad thing? I find it is good because it means a more independent player. One that can at times, lead!

As for me, I am a pubbie. (oh look tribal band.... well i am currently "Winning Eve" [forums surfing, not playing but still paying] and thus had no idea so when i stop winning, I will make a decision on where to go.)

Being pubbie lets me decide who I want to affiliate with. Every corp I have been with always asked if I have any affiliation with goons or test. Always. So, that elitism they have comes at a price. The price is their loyalty. once someone is in one of these corps, people will think they are spais all the time because they know that they have an outside allegiance to someone.

But, bragging about being anti-goon is like a hipster saying he/she doesnt like because they are popular.

I hate goons and test because they think they can rule over all of null and leave no room for enemies/rivalrys/neutral entities. They push out new/young alliances and install their own. it would be one thing if they did the things they did against a true enemy, but for now it looks like they just go after whomever is closest to them. declare war and grind. The cycle never stops.

you speak of pubdom as if it was a bad thing? I find it is good because it means a more independent player. One that can at times, lead!

As for me, I am a pubbie. (oh look tribal band.... well i am currently "Winning Eve" [forums surfing, not playing but still paying] and thus had no idea so when i stop winning, I will make a decision on where to go.)

Being pubbie lets me decide who I want to affiliate with. Every corp I have been with always asked if I have any affiliation with goons or test. Always. So, that elitism they have comes at a price. The price is their loyalty. once someone is in one of these corps, people will think they are spais all the time because they know that they have an outside allegiance to someone.

But, bragging about being anti-goon is like a hipster saying he/she doesnt like because they are popular.

I hate goons and test because they think they can rule over all of null and leave no room for enemies/rivalrys/neutral entities. They push out new/young alliances and install their own. it would be one thing if they did the things they did against a true enemy, but for now it looks like they just go after whomever is closest to them. declare war and grind. The cycle never stops.

I think it's time to shoot some blues.

No, I like many other people just had an alt in test and that's exactly what I did with the reddit account I was forced to create for it.

Don't worry I biomassed that alt out of disgust.

But pizza is still bothering you? Did you ever get your bomber FC back after the fat cow chased him into their arms? That was semi-decent forum drama

For a week old newbie, it would be extremely hard to get into the HBC or CFC if not part of a Reddit or SA.

Came back and was surprised Preen hasn't exploded in a beautiful wordy cloud of rage yet proclaiming that he wishes to be banned. Perhaps he has improved.

Doubt it, I'll wait.

I have improved sooo much.

seriously how is this guy not banned yet

seriously how is this guy not banned yet

WHY DO YOU DO ALWAYS DO THIS TO ME
I@M SORRY
SRIJRROIJROWAIJ
SO SORRY
PLEASE

Ahh there it is. Only took all day.

5. Ranting is prohibited

A rant is a long-winded, redundant post, often filled with angry, non-constructive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game, but rants are disruptive and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise, clear manner and avoid going off on rambling tangents.


6. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another. Text of this nature is not beneficial to the community spirit and will not be tolerated. Corporation, faction and alliance members and other players are cautioned to avoid allowing GÇ£in characterGÇ¥ disputes from becoming "out of character" personal attacks. The game is designed for role-playing and/or portraying a role and it is sometimes easy for tempers to flare when the lines between the virtual world and the real world are crossed. Please keep in-game disputes in the game and off the forum unless it is clearly a mutual, in-character exchange.


7. Trolling is prohibited.

Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not contribute to the sense of community we want for our forums.