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Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2012.11.01 13:59:00 -
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So which corp is it? |
HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
47
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:00:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:. Which corp did you infiltrate?
LOL |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
335
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:03:00 -
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For the record I, too, am not an alt. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Grumpymunky
Super Monkey Tribe of Danger
688
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:07:00 -
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Me! I'm an alt! I had to log out my main and log in the monkey just so I could be the coolest alt in the alt thread! I mostly post with my main these days, but I'm never far away if the forum needs more monkeys! Post with your monkey.
CCP Gargant: Thread locked due to lack of pants. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
335
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:11:00 -
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Grumpymunky wrote:Me! I'm an alt! I had to log out my main and log in the monkey just so I could be the coolest alt in the alt thread! I mostly post with my main these days, but I'm never far away if the forum needs more monkeys!
IMO best reason to post with an alt "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Shiroh Yatamii
Alexylva Paradox
77
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:18:00 -
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I post with this character rather than my higher SP one because I have switched this one to being the main. I use the older character for FW (which hasn't been fun lately because it is the new Agricultural Revolution: farmers unite!) and this one to pirate. Again, since FW has just been crap lately this character has become my new main.
I do miss all the Level V skills though. Oh AWU V... |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
132
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:24:00 -
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Removed contentless posts from the thread. If you want to reply, make sure the reply actually has some sort of substance. CCP Eterne | Community Representative
@CCP_Eterne |
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Natasha Liao
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:36:00 -
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We probably need you to define whatever your narrow definition of *Main* and *Alt* are. Is it highest SP 'Toon? My highest SP ATM gets logged in about 10 min max to check some orders and clicky-clicky some Farmville. Haven't even un-docked him for weeks. Oldest 'Toon? My oldest 'Toon got tossed on the Bio heap back in the beginning of '08. He was from back in the old days when your profession assigned your initial SP's. Noob + Zero Knowledge == Biomass yourself Noaw Character.
Are we going with 'Most Fun to Play'? Then this one. Less than 1mil SP's, *really* miss having lots of lvl4 and 5 skills ( I feel your pain Shiroh ) and yet this is some of the most fun I've had in Eve for years. I wish RL wasn't cutting into the time I can sit and play Eve ATM. I heard frigs calling to be blown up ( most likely mine... ) and I need to be in them. |
Death Death Death
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:38:00 -
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Because I frequently write dumb things and don't want that to haunt me forever. |
Ravnik
Choke-Hold
3004
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:41:00 -
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I post with my main. It can actually make life in game a little more interesting, as occasionally you might come across someone you have been chatting with on forums, or arguing with, for that matter! Can liven up local somewhat Uh, we had a slight weapons malfunction, but uh... everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here now, thank you. How are you?....****.. |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
799
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:42:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Just curious to see why there are people out there who post on here with a forum alt, as I genuinely don't know why you would want to hide who you are.
Does your alliance or corp not let you post on these forums? If so why are you with them?
Is it because you fear retribution (lol) for your opinions? Why do you think everyone dislikes your opinions?
Is it because you're a massive troll? If so, why are you Snot Shot/a GRRRR Goon?
This is a legit question, and definitely not a troll post or a rant.
Fear of consequences |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
337
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:44:00 -
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Natasha Liao wrote:We probably need you to define whatever your narrow definition of *Main* and *Alt* are. Is it highest SP 'Toon? My highest SP ATM gets logged in about 10 min max to check some orders and clicky-clicky some Farmville. Haven't even un-docked him for weeks. Oldest 'Toon? My oldest 'Toon got tossed on the Bio heap back in the beginning of '08. He was from back in the old days when your profession assigned your initial SP's. Noob + Zero Knowledge == Biomass yourself Noaw Character. Are we going with 'Most Fun to Play'? Then this one. Less than 1mil SP's, *really* miss having lots of lvl4 and 5 skills ( I feel your pain Shiroh ) and yet this is some of the most fun I've had in Eve for years. I wish RL wasn't cutting into the time I can sit and play Eve ATM. I heard frigs calling to be blown up ( most likely mine... ) and I need to be in them.
This is a legitimate question.
I'd say that if you had all your alts in one place, and you were told you can only be one of them forever and never have any more alts, the one you pick is your main.
You could say "It's the one you spend the most time on" however if I'm a spy I'm going to spend most the time on my spy alt rather than my "main".
Therefore I'd use the above test. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens Rookie Empire
73
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:48:00 -
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Well simple reason really: Griefer wardecks
Highsec is full of these wannabe pvp gods that go arround griefing easy targets. I have seen more then enough promising indy corps destroyed by those before they get started... Personally i have always wondered how shooting fish in barrel makes you great hunter.
Anyways, many serious industrials rather keep their indu stuff isolated so its harder to locate them.
Sometimes people just hol sensitive position in alliance or corp and want to protect that.
And letss face it 99,9 % of eves player base newer even reads these forums...
[Insert something funny or smart here] |
Alice Saki
15638
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Posted - 2012.11.01 14:53:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Removed contentless posts from the thread. If you want to reply, make sure the reply actually has some sort of substance.
Empty Quoting Like a Boss Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Reticle
Sight Picture
70
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:14:00 -
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Dumb question.
Of course it's to evade repercussions. Only a complete moron kicks someone in the nuts and then stands around waiting to get dogpiled by the victim's friends. Unless of course you're baiting someone. That's different. Why would anyone want to multiply their dangers by introducing unknown factors into their gameplay? That's just stupid.
I have a question for you: do you use out of corp scout alts? Why? Same reason of course. You want to fool your enemies. You don't want them to know who you are until the last possible moment before you destroy them.
Subterfuge and deception are part of EVE.
This is posted on my "main." LOL. There are no such things as mains. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
337
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:31:00 -
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Reticle wrote:Dumb question.
I have a question for you: do you use out of corp scout alts? Why? Same reason of course. You want to fool your enemies. You don't want them to know who you are until the last possible moment before you destroy them.
No, I scout on my main.
Because the tactic you have mentioned is so predictable, anyone seeing a "neutral" in system in an NPC corp is going to be suspicious. Especially as that person will be all the way in null without any friends or help etc. So if you see someone hanging around you should be taking note of it anyway.
Spying is different, because it's hard not to get caught if I'm just like "hai guise, can i join ur corp?"
Personally I think that the argument of "of course they want to avoid retribution for being an ass" is a poor one. How about don't be an ass in the first place? Or at least, don't be an ass to anyone who can ruin your day? "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1781
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:37:00 -
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This is my main... I play Eve with my alt. |
slam34
Defiance LLC
3
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:37:00 -
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I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course. -áPeople are people. No matter what country, culture, religion, political party, business or communtiy you encounter in your travels, you will never find a shortage of people who will make it their personal mission in life to tell you how to live yours.
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Arec Bardwin
796
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:39:00 -
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Because I'm a lily-livered, custard-colored gutless little carebear. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
337
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:41:00 -
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slam34 wrote:I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course.
Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here?
Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions.
Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
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slam34
Defiance LLC
3
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:46:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:slam34 wrote:I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course. Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here? Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions. Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it.
So you are agreeing with me then? Good. -áPeople are people. No matter what country, culture, religion, political party, business or communtiy you encounter in your travels, you will never find a shortage of people who will make it their personal mission in life to tell you how to live yours.
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
337
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:48:00 -
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slam34 wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:slam34 wrote:I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course. Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here? Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions. Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it. So you are agreeing with me then? Good.
No?
I don't get an ego boost from posting on the forums, funnily enough I like discussing things with people and coming to recognise people who post with their own opinions too. You know, to build a community? Even the people I don't like but post with their main characters I respect a lot more then any posting alt. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
slam34
Defiance LLC
3
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:53:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:slam34 wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:slam34 wrote:I can rattle off at least a dozen legitimate reasons to post with an alt. Most have been covered here already. The real legitimate question is why on earth would anyone post with their main? Or make a big deal about it? Only one reason. EGO. There is the whole Ayn Rand thing, of course. Because I don't mind standing by what I stay on here? Anyone who disagrees with me is free to do so, anyone who agrees is also free to do so. Those people may dislike me, or even become a space friend, some may even try to kill me (in game only hopefully) due to those opinions. Either way, I wouldn't post something unless I was going to stand by it. So you are agreeing with me then? Good. No? I don't get an ego boost from posting on the forums, funnily enough I like discussing things with people and coming to recognise people who post with their own opinions too. You know, to build a community? Even the people I don't like but post with their main characters I respect a lot more then any posting alt.
But you are proving my point. It is all about your self importance and the percieved worth of your personal opinion. Which is not necesarily a bad thing. Just strange to deny.
-áPeople are people. No matter what country, culture, religion, political party, business or communtiy you encounter in your travels, you will never find a shortage of people who will make it their personal mission in life to tell you how to live yours.
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
744
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Posted - 2012.11.01 15:59:00 -
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No alt here, just have to make sure I'm not *that* drunk when posting.....
Some people can go from 0 to 9000 Fahrenheit, just like that. So at times I can understand the usage of alts, though I'm not for it. Too easy to be an ashat with no consequences.
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
337
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:01:00 -
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slam34 wrote: But you are proving my point. It is all about your self importance and the percieved worth of your personal opinion. Which is not necesarily a bad thing. Just strange to deny.
Simply being fine with being recognised as your own personal self with your own opinions and accepting the consequences of publicly stating those opinions I don't feel is egotistical, in fact I think it's essential to being a person at all.
I'm not hiding behind an alt personally because I don't feel I have to; my question is why do you think you'll be persecuted for your opinions if you don't post under an alt?
Maybe it's because your opinions are formed on flawed logic, and only you can't see it? Or maybe you don't believe in what you're saying enough to be associated with it anyway and damn the consequences?
Or maybe you're part of an alliance that bans you from posting, in which case why are you a part of it if it bans you from doing what you want?
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Xuixien
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
155
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:16:00 -
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People who say
Grow a pair and post on your main, rawr!
are only saying that so that -
1) they can use "you're just an alt" as an excuse to dismiss the argument
2) they can goad the "alt poster" to reveal their identity and then derail the argument by insulting killboards, reputation, employment history, etc etc
3) they can "retaliate" against the person in game with harassment compaigns, bumping, awoxing, etc etc.
I, personally, give zero fucks and a peanut about the above three points and always post on my current main. Everyone vs Everyone |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
1870
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:21:00 -
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I am the real thing. The forum is the real game.
Although I do have some alts to play the forum mini game that takes place in space or something.
Mr Epeen There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
slam34
Defiance LLC
3
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:21:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:slam34 wrote: But you are proving my point. It is all about your self importance and the percieved worth of your personal opinion. Which is not necesarily a bad thing. Just strange to deny.
Simply being fine with being recognised as your own personal self with your own opinions and accepting the consequences of publicly stating those opinions I don't feel is egotistical, in fact I think it's essential to being a person at all. I'm not hiding behind an alt personally because I don't feel I have to; my question is why do you think you'll be persecuted for your opinions if you don't post under an alt? Maybe it's because your opinions are formed on flawed logic, and only you can't see it? Or maybe you don't believe in what you're saying enough to be associated with it anyway and damn the consequences? Or maybe you're part of an alliance that bans you from posting, in which case why are you a part of it if it bans you from doing what you want?
You have certainly made a lot of unfounded assumptions about me. You also have confused having an ego with being egotistical in a bad sense. The reference to Ayn Rand is that mans ego is the fountainhead of human progress. I do not see having an ego as a bad thing. I am just questioning your presumption that posting with your main is superior in any way to posting with an alt. There are reasons to do either that are certainly valid. We only have your internet word that this is your main. I assume it isnt. Why would you make a post that talks down to other players with your main? Oh, wait, that could be an unflattering version of your ego cropping up there, I guess. -áPeople are people. No matter what country, culture, religion, political party, business or communtiy you encounter in your travels, you will never find a shortage of people who will make it their personal mission in life to tell you how to live yours.
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Dessau
75
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:25:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Just curious to see why there are people out there who post on here with a forum alt, as I genuinely don't know why you would want to hide who you are. Not sure why you'd want to use alts to meatshield the main, I thought the point was to play your main and protect the identity of your alts.
Channel 'Asymmetrics'. PvP for gentlepersons. |
Natasha Liao
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.11.01 16:28:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:I'd say that if you had all your alts in one place, and you were told you can only be one of them forever and never have any more alts, the one you pick is your main. *chuckle* Then the answer would be...
A) I wouldn't post. As Dasola mentioned: you never know who might be bored and decide to go grief someone for the lulz. 'Fun' is relative after all. And then...
B) I would have quit this game long ago. Being 'locked' into 1 'Toon would have bored me to insanity. Part of the reason he's still around is, while I've quit on-and-off over the years, it's still an '08 char with lots of skills. You don't just toss away 30mil+ worth of SP's.
As for 'worth' of an Alts opinion: as I've said - an opinion/idea doesn't become any more or less relevant/interesting based on some arbitrary number of SP's, a born on date, or any corp membership. You might be surprised what this 10/8/2012 'Alt' could tell you about scanning for instance or living in a WH. Some of us just come here for to exchange ideas, info or a laugh or three. My impression of a few groups/individuals has changed over the years because of it ( both positive and negative ). It's also good to see things from somebody else's perspective on a nerf/buff/etc and see why it might be a good, bad or who cares idea. One persons 'Small Nerf' can actually be a 'Kinda Big Thing' to others.
Some people get too wrapped up in forums, personas and 'Meta-Gaming'. That involves way more effort than I'm willing to spend on a 'game'. People can agree or disagree with what I say. It's not going to drive me into some 'U Mad Bro?' rage. I've come away from these forums a lot of times with a different perspective on things. Even from people/groups I could care less about or don't like. |
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