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Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
336
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:08:00 -
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So you were the one making those threads. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2624
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:21:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:ISD TYPE40 wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Pro tip: This doesn't actually happen. I beg to differ. I have experienced this personally. And where there is one case, there are bound to be others. That is one of the wonderful things about EVE, everything has a consequence eventually Are you sure the posting was the primary reason for the dec, or was it just a "face" reason (while the real reason was something else)? I've been part of wars before that were theoretically for ideologic reasons or being "offended", but were in fact just about wanting good fights.
I am plenty certain. It was made quite clear that the reason for the in-game aggression was due to my having a vastly differing opinion on a specific subject, and because not only had I stated as much, but that I had refused to "back down".
The discussion on the forums was amicable and lacked a lot of the usual vitriol and e-peen waving usually associated with certain topics, however it seems that the act of opposition itself was enough to engender a longing for retribution in the other person.
As I already stated, everything in EVE has a consequence and that some are more readily apparent than others. Frankly I would not wish it to be any other way.
ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.11.01 23:18:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Just curious to see why there are people out there who post on here with a forum alt, as I genuinely don't know why you would want to hide who you are.
I don't post with an alt. people just can't believe there is someone willing to play Eve and not be one of the corpy sheep. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1975
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Posted - 2012.11.01 23:20:00 -
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ISD TYPE40 wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:ISD TYPE40 wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Pro tip: This doesn't actually happen. I beg to differ. I have experienced this personally. And where there is one case, there are bound to be others. That is one of the wonderful things about EVE, everything has a consequence eventually Are you sure the posting was the primary reason for the dec, or was it just a "face" reason (while the real reason was something else)? I've been part of wars before that were theoretically for ideologic reasons or being "offended", but were in fact just about wanting good fights. I am plenty certain. It was made quite clear that the reason for the in-game aggression was due to my having a vastly differing opinion on a specific subject, and because not only had I stated as much, but that I had refused to "back down". The discussion on the forums was amicable and lacked a lot of the usual vitriol and e-peen waving usually associated with certain topics, however it seems that the act of opposition itself was enough to engender a longing for retribution in the other person. As I already stated, everything in EVE has a consequence and that some are more readily apparent than others. Frankly I would not wish it to be any other way. Huh. I learned something new today. I hereby endeavor to be more argumentative so more people shoot me.
No, really, I didn't think retaliation like that was a thing. Fascinating. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Apollo-Moor
xHELLonEARTHx LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
127
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Posted - 2012.11.01 23:22:00 -
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Dey scurred... |
Name Family Name
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2012.11.02 02:34:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Just curious to see why there are people out there who post on here with a forum alt, as I genuinely don't know why you would want to hide who you are.
Does your alliance or corp not let you post on these forums? If so why are you with them?
Is it because you fear retribution (lol) for your opinions? Why do you think everyone dislikes your opinions?
Is it because you're a massive troll? If so, why are you Snot Shot/a GRRRR Goon?
This is a legit question, and definitely not a troll post or a rant.
None of the above.
I don't have a "main", and consider the "PAOST WITH UR MAIN" crowd as either being genuine idiots who are attached to one of their characters in some weirdo-pervert roleplaying manner or alts trying to lure drunk idiots into posting with their "mains" and getting free intel.
Any character is a tool just like any ship is. |
KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.02 04:59:00 -
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alt.sex was always more interesting that main.sex.
Just sayin'
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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
578
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:25:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote: Huh. I learned something new today. I hereby endeavor to be more argumentative so more people shoot me. No, really, I didn't think retaliation like that was a thing. Fascinating.
I had Goons accuse me of being an NPC alt recently. "Can't wait for bounty system because we can't war dec you" they said.
So I started a corp specifically to be dec''d, even used a chest poking name.
Nothing yet
I HATE GOONS, I HATE GOONS. I HATE GOONS
I'll see if that helps... Muhhahahahahaha
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." |
Webvan
State War Academy Caldari State
119
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:31:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Just curious to see why there are people out there who post on here with a forum alt, as I genuinely don't know why you would want to hide who you are. Wow, that could lead to a serious identity crisis, ya think? Step AWAY from the computer...
No, this ain't "me" either ...though I do put SP into this char.
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galenwade
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:36:00 -
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Apparently everyone in RvB is a rifter alt ,
So that makes me an alt and i don't even know who my main is
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usrevenge
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
27
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Posted - 2012.11.02 05:53:00 -
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1697
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Posted - 2012.11.02 06:28:00 -
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That's the odd thing. I don't even pvp on this, I rat with this character somehow and only login on an alt to sit around waiting for silly people to wander in front of me... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
202
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Posted - 2012.11.02 06:29:00 -
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I'm a carebear miner that mines in high sec all the time near populated systems.
I post with my main and im not scared. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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General Nusense
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2012.11.02 06:37:00 -
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because it pisses off goonwaffe pubbies, cfc and hbc. |
Marcus McTavish
EnC Heavy Industries Rolling Thunder.
47
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Posted - 2012.11.05 00:07:00 -
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People post with alts, primarily because, in most cases, there is no traces back to much of anything.
It is completely anonymous. You could post with some random alt and claim to have done or do anything you want. People ask that you post with your main to eliminate that.
People also use this tactic even on their main. If you get into a heated "discussion" with some random dude, chances are he will say something along the lines of "I would totally kill you with my main" or something like that. If you ask for the name of that char, they will often say that it is secret or you can't know. All the while they will continue to boast about their "main" or "other chars" and how much better than you they are.
Honestly, I can only see about 3 reasons why you wouldn't be able to post with your main, or say his/her name. 1: You are in the process, or planning to, betray your current group. You would post or report information about the group using an alt to protect your identity. --Hard to prove or believe. Typically abused and false.
2: It is a trade alt or contractor. Protecting the trade alt from any things that are associated with other chars of yours. I use this, only in the hopes that I get to the point of really needing it. --Fairly believable. But falseness is easily shown by lack of logs in prolonged "debate"
3: It is a Super Cap Char or some other big thing, like an Alt's POS chain. Supercap pilots are not hard to figure out with a tad bit of searching. POS chains and other activities that rely on people either not seeing or not caring about.
If you get some random highsec dudes mad at you, they will often complain about how terrible you are, while boasting about themselves through the guise of a pretend-time-main. |
Natasha Liao
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
16
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Posted - 2012.11.05 00:28:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Name recognition and its benefits. For example, if I comment on balance in frigate PvP as myself, I have the fact I'm the CEO of a successful frigate PvP corp, plus my killboard (as it may be) backing my arguments up. If I made the same argument using an alt, my credibility would be greatly decreased because of "who the heck is this guy and what qualifies him to whine about the state of the Rifter?" And for you Petrus it isn't a detriment. Rifterlings is a PvP oriented Corp, so loosing a ship isn't the end of the world for you. For somebody more adverse to that kind of loss it's a measure of security.
Marcus McTavish wrote:If you get some random highsec dudes mad at you, they will often complain about how terrible you are, while boasting about themselves through the guise of a pretend-time-main. I usually just brag about how bad I am right from the get-go. Saves them some effort if I claim that I'm a Scrub and be done with it. I can even provide a Kill Board link if needed. |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
380
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Posted - 2012.11.05 01:26:00 -
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Because I'm not available in my forum profile? zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.11.05 02:59:00 -
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General Nusense wrote:because it pisses off goonwaffe pubbies, cfc and hbc.
Hate to be pedantic but most of Goonwaffe aren't pubbies by definition.
If there was an option to post anonymously on the forums by click a button, so it literally comes up as "anonymous", how many people would be tempted to use it? "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
1347
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:15:00 -
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I don't post with an alt, however it makes sense for a few reasons.
1) trolling
2) making arguments that may not go over so well with your main's corp/alliance
3) too lazy to switch the posting character
4) hide their main from potential enemies, especially in the C&P section when hiring mercs... at least that used to happen
Me, I don't care too much about all that. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
69
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:19:00 -
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Why would I even go through the trouble of creating an alt? |
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Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
381
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:22:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:I don't post with an alt, however it makes sense for a few reasons.
1) trolling
2) making arguments that may not go over so well with your main's corp/alliance
3) too lazy to switch the posting character
4) hide their main from potential enemies, especially in the C&P section when hiring mercs... at least that used to happen
Me, I don't care too much about all that.
4 is a good answer, also for character bazaar purchases. Otherwise, any hiring or provision of certain services may well be done with an Alt for obvious reasons. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:24:00 -
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If you say you do not post on an alt it isn't true in a sense. Unless this is your real life picture and your real life name.
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Luc Chastot
Moira. Villore Accords
68
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:59:00 -
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I don't. Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |
Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
88
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Posted - 2012.11.05 04:07:00 -
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Luc Chastot wrote:I don't.
Than might I suggest getting some sun. |
Holy One
249
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Posted - 2012.11.05 04:34:00 -
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This is an alt. My main is actually Grogoth Drem. |
Norrin Ellis
Venture Racing
85
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Posted - 2012.11.05 10:48:00 -
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Well, if posting with alts bothers people, then it's done for the same reason as anything else in EVE that bothers others:
Because I can.
Note: This is my main. CEO, Venture Racing Senior Banker, EVE Online Hold'Em |
Qin Tawate
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.11.05 16:32:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Just curious to see why there are people out there who post on here with a forum alt, as I genuinely don't know why you would want to hide who you are.
Does your alliance or corp not let you post on these forums? If so why are you with them?
Is it because you fear retribution (lol) for your opinions? Why do you think everyone dislikes your opinions?
Is it because you're a massive troll? If so, why are you Snot Shot/a GRRRR Goon?
This is a legit question, and definitely not a troll post or a rant.
Obviously you do not understand the worth of privacy like many people in these times. You never had to fight for this right, you know nothing about how to value it.
It is very simple. Votes in democracy are annoynous, too. Why?
Because it should be a personal decision, not forced by a bigger group or clan, what you vote for. If somebody gives you a choice, then it should be an honest choice. In many dictatorships votes are public and the dictator gets 99%. Then he is reelect with 99% - glorious result.
In a forum I like annonymity, because you can take it personal or not. You can stay on topic or you can try to fill these neutral Character with the picture of your enemy in your head. If somebody tries to be personal, argue ad hominem, it is often very funny, if it is against a neutral char. For example you do not agree with a Goon. The average Goon troll thinks then you do not like all Goons and therefore are from AAA or NCdot or something like that. They quickly jump to wrong conclusions, which make them look ridiculous. |
Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
214
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:42:00 -
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Because people pidgeonhole you based on the alliance you are in, assuming you are incapable of unbiased opinion, or rather, that everything you say serves an ulterior agenda. |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
499
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Posted - 2012.11.05 17:52:00 -
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Aineko Macx wrote:Because people pidgeonhole you based on the alliance you are in, assuming you are incapable of unbiased opinion, or rather, that everything you say serves an ulterior agenda.
We're such a lovely community, aren't we?
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Gneeznow
Ship spinners inc To be Announced.
6
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Posted - 2012.11.05 18:14:00 -
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Because I'm so ugly. |
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