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Bane Necran
Appono Astos
635
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:17:00 -
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Hypercake Mix wrote:This thread happened before.
All of this has happened before, and it will happen again. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:17:00 -
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Gogela wrote: Sadly, there are those who are just toolbags. They have some RL issues... need attention, want to feel important, or have some kind of mental imbalance. They aren't here to offer anything. Call them trolls or just a*******, what they are in the forums to do is find some measure of therapy, or make people feel as bad as they do about themselves.
hmmm...these are good reasons to alt post.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1972
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:19:00 -
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Smohq Anmirorz wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Smohq Anmirorz wrote:I am always entertained by this subject, although I have to agree with the succinct comment "search function. use it."
What is a main character? The one who's training? Do I need to switch the character I post on if I switch my main? Did you come here to read posts and have discussions or did you come here to determine if someone is an alt and try to undermine what they say with "post on your main". Maybe it was my main. Maybe it will be next week. Is there some reason you can't just read the post and consider the merits of it on its own? If I have multiple accounts, do I need to tell you who all the main characters are? My "test" earlier was that if you were told you could only have 1 character and all the others will be deleted and you can never have any more alts, which one would you keep? That's your main as you have the most attachment to it. Which one is the double-boxers main? Obviously the one they'd keep. Duh. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:19:00 -
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I just decided to start posting and chose to do it on an alt because it seems unwise to let pvper's know where you live. I believe that eve pvper's are predictable in the fact that they will attack those that do not agree and most have little tolerance of other people's opinions. Most eve pvper's need validation that their values are correct and will attack those that disagree. I see no reason to make that easy for them.
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Proteus Maximus
Rusty Knickers Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
122
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:23:00 -
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Because you're a nutless bag of s_h_i_t. Thats why candy asses post with alts. That is all. If Goons were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it. |
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
635
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:26:00 -
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Bud Austrene wrote:I just decided to start posting and chose to do it on an alt because it seems unwise to let pvper's know where you live. I believe that eve pvper's are predictable in the fact that they will attack those that do not agree and most have little tolerance of other people's opinions. Most eve pvper's need validation that their values are correct and will attack those that disagree. I see no reason to make that easy for them.
There's really nothing to fear. Dogs that bark the most have no bite. "It's no use crying over spilt milk, because all the forces of the universe were bent on spilling it." ~William Maugham |
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy Caldari State
48
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:27:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Smohq Anmirorz wrote:
Which one is the double-boxers main?
Obviously the one they'd keep. Duh.
Pay for two accounts and get to keep only one character?
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Blind Phew
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:27:00 -
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I used to post with a main but I kept getting propositioned by hot chicks sending me vile and filthy sexual suggestions. But then I found out they were all fat, hairy, smelly guys posing as women. So I switched to an alt.
But now I'm back on my main so we'll see what happens... |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1371
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:32:00 -
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Wow. I can't believe I am just finding this awesome forum feature now... I'm forever a nub.
Click on troll's name, select "Hide Posts"
That pretty much solves all of my problems with the forums. That really makes my day.
It's like jita.... block all the spammers and scammers and you find out Jita is actually a really quiet system.
I'm going to have a beer tonight and toast to whomever at CCP is responsible for that feature. Sk+Ñl!
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Touval Lysander
Zero Wine
564
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:35:00 -
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The other day I bought a char with twice the skill points. He will join a 0.0 corp and I will call him my main.
I will keep this char to annoy Goons and some of the dropkick 0.0 players - when he posts he will be my main. I will use my new toon to annoy Goons and some of the dropkick highsec players - when he posts he will be my main.
Who am I?
And of course, for each of those characters I have 2 alts so I can launch into a tirade of self-abuse and self-derision all by myself.
The topic is one big unanswerable question OP, sorry. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..." |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
628
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:40:00 -
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I post with an alt for three reasons: 1. Because my mains name is more offensive 2. Because people try to determine a persons argument validity based of who they are and not the legitimacy of thier argument 3. I am highly opinionated and dont want my Corp/alliance to be targeted due to my views... Ok, so you've corrected my spelling,do you care to make a valid point? -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1972
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:41:00 -
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Bud Austrene wrote:I just decided to start posting and chose to do it on an alt because it seems unwise to let pvper's know where you live. I believe that eve pvper's are predictable in the fact that they will attack those that do not agree and most have little tolerance of other people's opinions. Most eve pvper's need validation that their values are correct and will attack those that disagree. I see no reason to make that easy for them.
As a PvPer, I call bullshit. Now, tell me where you live so I can shoot you.
More seriously, tracking someone down out of spite is really a lot of effort and not really worth it unless they really offended, or you have something else to gain from it. Unless you chestbeat about how you are "super elite and will pwn n00bs in the face", or brag about how your corp has billions and billions in its wallet, or how you have 50-man super-successful PvE ops, or give evidence that being shot would lead to glorious satisfaction via resulting whine, or other such things... you won't be targeted.
There are really so many baddies to shoot "for lulz" that focusing on one to the exclusivity of other things is usually really not a good investment of effort. Most "horror stories" you hear about a carebear being vocal and then getting smacked into the pavement are because of auxiliary reasons, like profit to be made off of ganking blinged-out mission boats, stealing things, or satisfying personal response. Or a combination.
ISD TYPE40 wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Pro tip: This doesn't actually happen. I beg to differ. I have experienced this personally. And where there is one case, there are bound to be others. That is one of the wonderful things about EVE, everything has a consequence eventually Are you sure the posting was the primary reason for the dec, or was it just a "face" reason (while the real reason was something else)? I've been part of wars before that were theoretically for ideologic reasons or being "offended", but were in fact just about wanting good fights. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:41:00 -
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Proteus Maximus wrote:Because you're a nutless bag of s_h_i_t. Thats why candy asses post with alts. That is all.
This is exactly what i was referring to. There are people in this game that do not operate in a logical manner. As a result, this makes them more dangerous. They can not be trusted to be honorable and will shoot you in the back when you are not looking because you pissed them off. I have nothing to prove to them. I just choose to avoid them. |
Blind Phew
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:48:00 -
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Bud Austrene wrote:Proteus Maximus wrote:Because you're a nutless bag of s_h_i_t. Thats why candy asses post with alts. That is all.
This is exactly what i was referring to. There are people in this game that do not operate in a logical manner. Actually I think the poster you quoted is just an idiot...or worse...
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Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:51:00 -
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Maybe I should ask. What is the value of posting on one of my mains? What is to gain?
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Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 19:54:00 -
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Blind Phew wrote:Bud Austrene wrote:Proteus Maximus wrote:Because you're a nutless bag of s_h_i_t. Thats why candy asses post with alts. That is all.
This is exactly what i was referring to. There are people in this game that do not operate in a logical manner. Actually I think the poster you quoted is just an idiot...or worse...
These are again the people that act irrationally and are dangerous as a result. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1972
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:00:00 -
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Bud Austrene wrote:Maybe I should ask. What is the value of posting on one of my mains? What is to gain?
Name recognition and its benefits. For example, if I comment on balance in frigate PvP as myself, I have the fact I'm the CEO of a successful frigate PvP corp, plus my killboard (as it may be) backing my arguments up. If I made the same argument using an alt, my credibility would be greatly decreased because of "who the heck is this guy and what qualifies him to whine about the state of the Rifter?"
It also provides a more "holistic" experience of Eve, for lack of a better word. Why isolate different ways to play if not doing so only enhances the experience? Yes, I am counting possible hostile reactions as "enhancement", because Eve is all about conflict. I have alts that I use for things my main simply cannot do (e.g. hisec hauling/trading, running an unbiased gambling operation, etc), but those are last resorts for things I'd love to do on my main, but simply can't.
So, while you ask "what is the value of posting on a main", some instead ask "what is the value of not posting on a main, and how does it compensate for the value lost?" Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
Reticle
Sight Picture
71
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:02:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Reticle wrote:Dumb question.
I have a question for you: do you use out of corp scout alts? Why? Same reason of course. You want to fool your enemies. You don't want them to know who you are until the last possible moment before you destroy them.
No, I scout on my main. Because the tactic you have mentioned is so predictable, anyone seeing a "neutral" in system in an NPC corp is going to be suspicious. Especially as that person will be all the way in null without any friends or help etc. So if you see someone hanging around you should be taking note of it anyway. Spying is different, because it's hard not to get caught if I'm just like "hai guise, can i join ur corp?" Personally I think that the argument of "of course they want to avoid retribution for being an ass" is a poor one. How about don't be an ass in the first place? Or at least, don't be an ass to anyone who can ruin your day? You scout with your main because an alt might make people suspicious that someone might be hunting them? That makes no sense. You use the alt so that they have zero intel on what's coming for them. You show up and they know everything there is to know, including your favorite fits, friends, etc. Random dude you take note of and do the various things you do to stay alert, but a famous hot dropping corp scoout comes in and you get the hell out now. Why would anyone tip their hand if they didn't have to? What kind of tactical thinking is that?
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
342
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:12:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote: It also provides a more "holistic" experience of Eve, for lack of a better word
This guy used the word "hollistic" correctly. He is a good poster.
Reticle wrote: You scout with your main because an alt might make people suspicious that someone might be hunting them? That makes no sense. You use the alt so that they have zero intel on what's coming for them. You show up and they know everything there is to know, including your favorite fits, friends, etc. Random dude you take note of and do the various things you do to stay alert, but a famous hot dropping corp scoout comes in and you get the hell out now. Why would anyone tip their hand if they didn't have to? What kind of tactical thinking is that?
I'm ratting, and random scrub comes into system, I dock up.
I'm ratting and uber elite PvP scout comes into system, I dock up.
Me and a gang are there and a random guy comes into the system. It's some random scrub. We try to kill him.
Me and a gang are there and a uber elite PvP scout comes into system, we try to kill him.
Why would you ever do anything different? If you think "hur hur lol he's an npc scrub, we can take him boys" you deserve to die. It's a sodding obvious tactic to use a "neutral" alt to scout, so why would you ever assume it's not some guy who's going hot drop the crap out of you? "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
799
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:14:00 -
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Guys,
Is it impossible to discuss this without reverting to base language and name calling ?
Please be constructive. ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
155
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:16:00 -
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Because of the ISDs. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
342
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:18:00 -
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MinefieldS wrote:Because of the ISDs.
They always get their man. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:30:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Bud Austrene wrote:Maybe I should ask. What is the value of posting on one of my mains? What is to gain?
Name recognition and its benefits. For example, if I comment on balance in frigate PvP as myself, I have the fact I'm the CEO of a successful frigate PvP corp, plus my killboard (as it may be) backing my arguments up. If I made the same argument using an alt, my credibility would be greatly decreased because of "who the heck is this guy and what qualifies him to whine about the state of the Rifter?" It also provides a more "holistic" experience of Eve, for lack of a better word. Why isolate different ways to play if not doing so only enhances the experience? Yes, I am counting possible hostile reactions as "enhancement", because Eve is all about conflict. I have alts that I use for things my main simply cannot do (e.g. hisec hauling/trading, running an unbiased gambling operation, etc), but those are last resorts for things I'd love to do on my main, but simply can't. So, while you ask "what is the value of posting on a main", some instead ask "what is the value of not posting on a main, and how does it compensate for the value lost?"
I have no desire to whine about anything in eve, and i plan to adapt to whatever changes CCP makes. I like eve alot just the way it is. I doubt that i will ever need to impress someone with my reputation or accomplishments. I do not see any reason in trying. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1973
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:33:00 -
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Bud Austrene wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Bud Austrene wrote:Maybe I should ask. What is the value of posting on one of my mains? What is to gain?
Name recognition and its benefits. For example, if I comment on balance in frigate PvP as myself, I have the fact I'm the CEO of a successful frigate PvP corp, plus my killboard (as it may be) backing my arguments up. If I made the same argument using an alt, my credibility would be greatly decreased because of "who the heck is this guy and what qualifies him to whine about the state of the Rifter?" It also provides a more "holistic" experience of Eve, for lack of a better word. Why isolate different ways to play if not doing so only enhances the experience? Yes, I am counting possible hostile reactions as "enhancement", because Eve is all about conflict. I have alts that I use for things my main simply cannot do (e.g. hisec hauling/trading, running an unbiased gambling operation, etc), but those are last resorts for things I'd love to do on my main, but simply can't. So, while you ask "what is the value of posting on a main", some instead ask "what is the value of not posting on a main, and how does it compensate for the value lost?"
I have no desire to whine about anything in eve, and i plan to adapt to whatever changes CCP makes. I like eve alot just the way it is. I doubt that i will ever need to impress someone with my reputation or accomplishments. I do not see any reason in trying. *shrug*
Then you're fine with an alt and all of the "omg alt poster" rage is not really aimed at you. Play the way you want: you want to alt post? Go for it!
On a different note, that "-----" you include in your post always makes your post look like you empty quoted, and your actual post is a forum signature. It's very disconcerting. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
BoSau Hotim
The Artist's
2345
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:35:00 -
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This is my main, hello. I don't care whether someone posts with their main or alt. I understand if someone decides to post with an alt because they don't want to be attacked in-game if it is a hot subject. Getting flamed on the forums is not something all people can handle without taking it personal. So some post with alts. People stalk others in rl and ingame. So if they feel the need to protect themselves from that more power to them.
-á ***DISCLAIMER*** Regarding this avatar - any resemblance or similarity to other avatars-áeither living or dead is purely coincidental.
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Ryhss
Clandestine Management Group
27
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:38:00 -
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I don't post with an alt. This is my main |
Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
28
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:47:00 -
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Tarvos telesto - Alt Oxylan- Main Cloned s0ul - ex alt (sold in character basar) i use this ex alt like 3 month ago a lot on forum.
I have no idea why, well what difirence betwen alts or main if both accounts are like 5 or more years old. Somtime i dont feel who is my main or alt, somtime i use more alts with less sp in game than my main with 90+mil sp, and same in forum, maybe beause lonin and password form my alts are shorter than main and is faster to login...
Maybe people love to grind likes ? i have no idea why people use alts in forum, personaly i dont care if somone use alt here.
Most importand for me is what people posts here, not who post here. |
Bud Austrene
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 20:48:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Bud Austrene wrote:Petrus Blackshell wrote:Bud Austrene wrote:Maybe I should ask. What is the value of posting on one of my mains? What is to gain?
Name recognition and its benefits. For example, if I comment on balance in frigate PvP as myself, I have the fact I'm the CEO of a successful frigate PvP corp, plus my killboard (as it may be) backing my arguments up. If I made the same argument using an alt, my credibility would be greatly decreased because of "who the heck is this guy and what qualifies him to whine about the state of the Rifter?" It also provides a more "holistic" experience of Eve, for lack of a better word. Why isolate different ways to play if not doing so only enhances the experience? Yes, I am counting possible hostile reactions as "enhancement", because Eve is all about conflict. I have alts that I use for things my main simply cannot do (e.g. hisec hauling/trading, running an unbiased gambling operation, etc), but those are last resorts for things I'd love to do on my main, but simply can't. So, while you ask "what is the value of posting on a main", some instead ask "what is the value of not posting on a main, and how does it compensate for the value lost?"
I have no desire to whine about anything in eve, and i plan to adapt to whatever changes CCP makes. I like eve alot just the way it is. I doubt that i will ever need to impress someone with my reputation or accomplishments. I do not see any reason in trying. *shrug*Then you're fine with an alt and all of the "omg alt poster" rage is not really aimed at you. Play the way you want: you want to alt post? Go for it! On a different note, that "-----" you include in your post always makes your post look like you empty quoted, and your actual post is a forum signature. It's very disconcerting.
Thank you for the advise and the permission. By the way i do read your blog from time to time and find it interesting. |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
352
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:28:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
Is it because you fear retribution (lol) for your opinions? Why do you think everyone dislikes your opinions?
Close. People who post a lot on the forums have a tendency to be primaried and convo spamed and evemail spammed and estalked and whatnot. It has nothing to do with opinions, it has to do with people wanting fame from killing a popular poster or people just being haters.
I don't see what the problem is with forum alts. Using an alt ingame for scamming or spying or logistics to hide who your main is - that's totally cool but you do the same thing on the forums and suddenly that's a totally different thing that we should get rid of. |
TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
380
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:53:00 -
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Main got banned from posting while fighting for forum freedom. "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |
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